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[–]pencerPhotoshop - After Effects 18ポイント19ポイント  (8子コメント)

MFW I read this thread.

[–]Boerontosaurus 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is so fucking disappointing. I've been craving something like Carrot ever since Robin, and it was awesome chatting with all you giffers since Carrot launched. I'm going to look into this further in the morning, but damn, this feels shady and it's gonna suck if this awesome new chat is ruined by its creators' shenanigans.

[–]matt01ssPhotoshop - After Effects - Cinema 4D[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not saying you can't use it, just that we are not officially backing it. Just wanted the community to be aware of that.

[–]Boerontosaurus 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh no, I understand that, but I respect this sub and its mods and if you guys aren't comfortable backing it that raises questions for me. Questions I'll need to look into when I'm sober and not exhausted... I mean, even though you're all notorious for mod abuse lol

Edit- I know this seems stupid to clarify, but I upvoted you Matt, a brigader must've cancelled me out.

Edit edit - It could've been the algorithm too I guess, idk, I'm just a guy who loves HQG, not a Reddit expert. Also, sorry to everyone who hates edits lol

[–]matt01ssPhotoshop - After Effects - Cinema 4D[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's all sorts of odd voting going on in this thread, it's ok though, the post was just to address the community.

[–]WearyMail 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Check out /r/OrangeChat.

It's similar, but the creators have good reputations.

[–]mangopear 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to mention it's integrated with snoonet, the reddit irc network that has been around for years.

[–]badmonkey0001Autodesk 18ポイント19ポイント  (14子コメント)

So funny how people whom I've never seen with a negative score for anything in HQG (matt and Earl) suddenly have all of their comments here either marked controversial or are in the negatives and all the upvoted "supporters" have just about equal scores.

Careful brigaders - don't want to get your accounts shadowbanned by admins. The post may look "normal" to you strangers, but to us regulars it's obvious vote manipulation.

[–]tonybabyPhotoshop - After Effects - Cinema 4D 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why badmonkey0001, are you saying it's not normal for a bunch of random inactive accounts to suddenly show up and downvote three of the most prolific contributors and most well liked users on this sub? And then to repeatedly gild the guy trying to push a shady, buggy, throwaway chat app? Well I'm shocked. Just shocked and appalled.

[–]MediocreGimpGimp - Blender 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

oh gosh, I mean, I don't know that I'm one of the top three.... but I mean... if you insist... gosh, probably just top ten, really... look at me, I'm blushing...

[–]elfa82Photoshop - After Effects 22ポイント23ポイント  (30子コメント)

/u/calbearia, since you keep publicly preaching trasnparency, why do you remove posts asking for clarification. Why is it that you feel the need to PM spam anyone who quits your app, and modmail any sub that asks to be removed. Why do you want me to connect with you on skype, instead of publicly where everyone can see the conversation? Why do you have shitty actions, only to immediately remove all mentioning of it, and then run to others to try to help you to silence opposition only to come back with "Whoops, yeah we look shady as fuck, but give time to scrub our code and we'll open-source it and put a watered down PR post up for a few minutes"?

How is asking users/mods of a private sub that you are not a part of working on bugs?. What do you have to say about the allegations that carrot is buying accounts? How do you explain fairly inactive only users with no history here to magically find this thread and immediately jump to your aid?

[–]ThtDAmbWhiteGuyPhotoshop - After Effects 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

[–]_kingside_ 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's funny, I just tried looking into the devs and big surprise...

Now he's bandying about a ten - oh no I'm sorry, was it 20 (he doubled his arbitrary number halfway through) thousand "bounty" on if anyone finds spyware. As though they wouldn't just pack up and leave if they were found out - apparently we can't know who they are, after all!

This whole thing reeks of scummy devs.


edit I have documented my experience with these people here

[–]badmonkey0001Autodesk 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Such a great GIF man. I know for sure that's going to end up used in chat at work.

[–]ThtDAmbWhiteGuyPhotoshop - After Effects 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks!

[–]tonybabyPhotoshop - After Effects - Cinema 4D 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]_kingside_ 13ポイント14ポイント  (7子コメント)

Seriously, they look sketch as shit.

I would not trust these devs with anything running on my computer, even a browser app. Wait for long-time trusted community devs like those who've worked on RES to pick up/branch this project into RES or create their own variant, or just use one of the many existing chat platforms like Snoonet (with an IRC extension if you're so inclined).


edit2 I have documented my experience with these people here, and will be editing my comments to reflect this.

[–]noeatnosleep 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

FYI, I'm running a chat app along with snoonet devs. If you're hunting for a chat app built by redditors for redditors instead of one that's commercially funded and aketchy, let me know. You can see it in action on the /r/motorcycles sidebar. It's called OrangeChat.

[–]_kingside_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Wait

I remember seeing some sort of neo-chat interface thing I clicked onto once and never found again. took up a browser window with a (dark?) sidebar I think...?

was def by a redditor, remember seeing some admin or poweruser there wondering where the hell I came from or how I got there or something lol.

Suffice to say I'd be interested in taking a look!

[–]amici_ursi 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

might have been orangechat

[–]_kingside_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, I just heard from them, will look into it. Cheers!

[–]amici_ursi 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lol. I didn't realize you were replying to nens. It was definitely orangechat. He set it up for us in Texas and History.

[–]_kingside_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah.

I could have sworn there was this general chatsite/chat app that was being worked on by a former admin or something. Might just be confusing nens with largenocream or something (not that 'cream was working on it', maybe just thought nens was a former admin).

Ah well, if there ever was another chat thing and it goes anywhere I'm sure I'll find it eventually ^_^

[–]noeatnosleep 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awesome! Let me know if you want more info. Check out the /r/motorcycles sidebar for a good example of orangechat.

[–]larrymcdarey 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

There was a time I was promoted to be a carrot moderator for a chatroom. We literaly had an irc, discord, and slack group for this community but carrot comes in with a big green post linked at the top. No other service got that kind of advertisement... Once I found out that the owner of the chatroom promoted a particular person to moderator I did not want to be apart of it anymore. I mentioned to calbearia that this moderator has made anti-gay comments to my community, literally said he hopes carrot fails, and has directly insulted and attacked my community members, as well as harassing me on other websites after I blocked him! Do you know what calbearia does after I explain to him and give him screenshots? Calbearia makes this person a moderator. I literally have all the screenshots saved. How is someone like this in charge? Why would anyone want to be apart of this? FYI, i dont work with carrot nor do I want to be.

[–]elfa82Photoshop - After Effects 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you're willing to share those screenshots, we would all be appreciative.

[–]Gkender 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please, Please, Please share the screenshots.

[–]siouxsie_siouxv2Photoshop - After Effects 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh shit!

[–]ermgrPhotoshop 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

As a lurker, similar reaction.

[–]siouxsie_siouxv2Photoshop - After Effects 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I wouldn't want to get on /u/elfa82's bad side that's for damn sure.

[–]elfa82Photoshop - After Effects 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]hero0fwarPhotoshop - After Effects - Premiere 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I literally just laughed out loud at this in a room full of people

[–]astarkey12 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just realized this guy somehow figured out my personal email that isn't even linked to my reddit account then spammed me about becoming a carrot admin after "stumbling over my reddit username more times than [he could] count." I brushed this off at first but am now uneasy about it.

[–]elfa82Photoshop - After Effects 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

He gets creepier and creepier the more I hear.

[–]astarkey12 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And that email wasn't even recent. It was May 9th. Never used the app or installed an extension, the message was completely unsolicited.

[–]superfoodtownPhotoshop - After Effects 11ポイント12ポイント  (112子コメント)

Out of curiosity, what are the security reasons?

[–]matt01ssPhotoshop - After Effects - Cinema 4D[S,M] 23ポイント24ポイント  (111子コメント)

There was really only 1 "action" that was performed, but when you installed their Extension they subscribed you to their /r/carrot subreddit.

As innocent as this may seem, they were using their extension to make requests against the reddit api with your stored browser credentials. This is a huge no-no for applications. (ex. imagine RES taking automatic action with your account unbeknownst to you).

There were other odd things here and there such as no privacy in chatrooms from the developers (they can come and go to any room they please).

[–]_kingside_ 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

Here's the thing. It's not just 1 little action, but a ton of little things, that makes them seem sketchy.

outlined them here. All of those links point to their subreddit though so maybe I should screenshot them, hmm.

edit I was right, I should have screenshotted. As of now the dev elfa was talking to in this thread has removed all of my comments in their subreddit (and inexplicably, muted me even though I've literally never messaged them).

Welp

edit2 I have documented my experience with these people here, and will be editing my comments to reflect this.

[–]matt01ssPhotoshop - After Effects - Cinema 4D[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for the additional information.

[–]_kingside_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

No probs. Working on a writeup for /r/quityourbullshit (though tbh I'm leaning a bit heavily on elfa as he sounds respectable whereas I'm starting to sound like a conspiracy nerd lol) which should have all my links/screenshots in one tidy wrap-up.

edit link

[–]Gkender 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Clicked the "Here" link and nothing came up?

[–]_kingside_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Figured it out, it was just removed by that subreddit.

Don't really know or care why, I'm sure /u/calbearia had nothing to do with it (didn't go whining to the mods or anything).

I've changed the links over to a different sub ^_^ try now

[–]Gkender 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's that chat format? How'd you see it?

[–]malkovichjohn 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Were there rooms that were not supposed to be meant for Carrot devs?

[–]MediocreGimpGimp - Blender 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They were trying out the first private room and maintained access to field questions and concerns (I hear).

[–]DJ_HoCake 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

There were other odd things here and there such as no privacy in chatrooms from the developers (they can come and go to any room they please).

Can't the admins (reddit) do that now?

[–]matt01ssPhotoshop - After Effects - Cinema 4D[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes, but they operate under privacy policies that we are protected under whereas it's a crapshoot for a 3rd party company (especially one that no one has history with).

[–]superfoodtownPhotoshop - After Effects 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good to know.

[–]_kingside_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

They also admit to logging IPs when the reddit API (which they also use) explicitly allows software developers to access usernames so that you don't have to hand out your IP to every Tom, Dick cough/u/calbeariacough and Harry developer that wants it

TL;DR reddit makes a way your IP address is safe from nosy developers, these assholes don't care

[–]flesoytaertPhotoshop - After Effects 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the heads up on these shenanigans. https://i.imgur.com/oyqCNNC.gifv