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[–]crownpointer 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

If this is true and EpicRepairTime is the reason "/r/portland is now craigslist/facebook" (and you know exactly what that means), then fuuuuuuuck that guy.

[–]kapuhi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the thing that bothered me the most. /r/Portland got screwed over.

[–]223SWYamhillSt 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

ERT being patronizing, controlling, and debating with walls of text? Big shocker.

edit: who wants to post this to /r/subredditdrama? They love our toxicity.

[–]imyxleTrumptown 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I strongly considered it, but some mods will probably ban whoever does it if it's not a throwaway.

[–]duckduck_gooseBelmont [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I wonder if I should post my own personal experience with him or keep quiet? If he ban hammers me over it might be a blessing for my productivity.

[–]223SWYamhillSt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

you can't leave us hanging like that

if you get banned, come back as goosegoose_duck. when i get banned i'm coming back as /u/1731SE10thAve

[–]remotectrlCreston-Kenilworth [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Do it. In the name of transparency.

[–]msgsquared [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Do it! I'm annoyed that we had ONE female mod here and she got chased off.

[–]tit_curtain 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

EpicRepairTime constantly reminded me that he is my superior, and I was to know my place.

KISS MY RING, PEASANT!

[–]leftmouse 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

Why does moderating cause so much drama?

[–]social_reject_mom 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's probably the same dynamic as your neighborhood association, co-op board or PTA committee.

[–]fucking_snuggle 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Artificial power, actual power. Both cause drama.

[–]223SWYamhillSt 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

It seems that any unpaid group function that involves positions of power results in drama. Source: I am on the board of a small non-profit, it's unpaid, and we have squabbles. But i'm old enough to know how to collaborate with people and try to not be a dictator.

[–]duckduck_gooseBelmont [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Food Not Bombs used to have mad drama. Over feeding homeless people. Dumnpster level power struggles

[–]yeeeeeehaaawVancouver [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well if you overfeed the homeless you know what happens...

[–]223SWYamhillSt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So did PDXBikeSwarm. Over having bike rides. Fixie level power struggles.

[–]XefOrenco 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've been wondering this for years. When I was in high school I wanted to moderate a forum and thought it would be so cool, now I'm like http://i.imgur.com/kFJVH.jpg

[–]imyxleTrumptown 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You got time for some ping pong?

[–]openingceremonyOld Town Chinatown 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

How does being a mod of an internet forum cause this much drama. Wild.

[–]Huxley311 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

with all due respect, have people forgotten this is reddit? A place where people congregate to bad mouth each other?

[–]the_jowoMontavilla 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

Thank you /u/Joan_Wayne_Gacy for posting this. I appreciate the transparency; which has been lacking lately. I would like to hear ERT response. Until then I propose we start a gofundme account and use the funds to buy some magic cards. We can then use those magic cards to lure /u/xmitter to mod-ing again. Anytime he thinks about stepping down we lure back him with a better (older?) card. We're just shy of 58k subscribers, 5% donate 1$ we're at $2800....

[–]YoshimiTheCatTualatin 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

That's not a lot of magic cards.

[–]CthuluCatSnacks 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

You and I play magic very differently! That's a few great cubes!

[–]YoshimiTheCatTualatin 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

They're talking about bribing someone for labor with hypothetical premium/vintage cards

[–]imyxleTrumptown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We could buy 20,000+ mountain cards.

[–]the_jowoMontavilla 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Either way. What ever gets the job done. Maybe a cube to lure him back and then vintage to stay. I'm putting you and /u/CthuluCatSnacks in charge of the formal wording of the bribe offer.

[–]xmitterWoodstock [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

But actually no, the state things are in I have 0 interest in coming back to moderate again. Maybe if everyone else quit and they made me philosopher king like I asked, but even then it'd still probably take a couple Arabian Nights Mountains at least.

[–]CthuluCatSnacks 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand. But to say it's not a lot of magic cards is disingenuous. Perhaps you meant to say that's not a lot of money? All I was trying to say is that magic doesn't have to be a huge cost outlay.

[–]xmitterWoodstock [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Come on now, 2800 would buy a pretty good Legacy deck.

[–]Zzombee 7ポイント8ポイント  (10子コメント)

Do mods get paid or something? Is this shit your job?

[–]-GoCart- 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

mods get shit because its a shitty job to put up with shit from shitty shitizens shitlording about irrelevant shit all the shitlong day

[–]fucking_snuggle 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

How could you leave out shitposts?

[–]remotectrlCreston-Kenilworth 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah. Sometimes you get warm fuzzies, but not often. It's a weirdly stressful volunteer position.

[–]PayYourRates 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

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[–]jr98664Humboldt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As a shill bot, he's not yet killed, only minorly disabled me.

'Tis but a flesh wound.

[–]13_songs [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

"Sorry... for the drama", "I tried to go as quietly as possible"... But here post this:

Drama Drama Drama Drama Drama Drama

[–]ma_miyaNW District 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

I like ERT fine on here. I also super like FZM. Hopefully you all take this feedback, think on it and consider whether there are some faulty communication styles and some better ways to speak to each other and collaborate with respect of one another.

[–]higher_momentsHawthorne 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, that's the thing, they've both always seemed like perfectly competent mods to me, as well as generally positive voices in the community besides. It's upsetting that some behind-the-scenes drama had to force one of them out of the community. I'm guessing I'm not alone in being inclined to side with FZM's account of things, but I'd be really disappointed if this situation made a pariah of ERT, since I generally respect and appreciate his opinions.

[–]ma_miyaNW District 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I don't like this idea that someone told others, who were working hard, that they were shitty. And I super relate to her email. And I'm bummed about the situation.

On the other hand, wtf are the mods thinking? This is setting up a witchhunt, gang-up situation. Fucking weird. Use all this as a moment for discussion, and maybe a learning moment, internally on how to improve communications amongst one another.

[–]CloudCityPDXMilwaukie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

On the other hand, wtf are the mods thinking? This is setting up a witchhunt, gang-up situation. Fucking weird. Use all this as a moment for discussion, and maybe a learning moment, internally on how to improve communications amongst one another.

Its funny seeing this giant pile of mod-on-mod drama prefaced with "I'm sorry if my exit puts the mod team in a bind. For the drama too. I tried to go as quietly as possible."

Nope... cant see anything in this giant wall of text that would put the mod team in a bind, a very quiet way to go for sure.

and to top it off the whole thing was posted here by a mod who happens to also be a mod of /r/drama

[–]duckduck_gooseBelmont [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I actually loved ERT online - he was all the things you see here - but he's not the same person offline at all.

[–]larry_darrell_S Portland 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've worked with various general contractors over the years and they can be very direct and have a "my way or the highway" type attitude. Which is great for getting shit done, but can sometimes hurt peoples feelings along the way.

[–]santiamiammobile>desktop flair activated 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Based on that and his non-mod comments, I'm not incredibly surprised he apparently doesn't work super well with women.

[–]larry_darrell_S Portland [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't personally have a problem with the guy, I think he's a generally decent dude. I'm just saying there's pluses and minuses to everybody.

[–]ameobaSullivan's Gulch 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

Transparency isn't always good. Airing your dirty laundry in public is usually bad.

[–]IIEarlGreyII 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I would have to agree.

[–]imyxleTrumptown 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

My conspiracy theory is: this all happened because of one mod who is also a mod of /r/drama. He has been pulling all the strings behind the scenes for a long time (years).

[–]IIEarlGreyII 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This would explain a lot of the things.

[–]duckduck_gooseBelmont [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is why I take a casual approach to reddit.

[–]baconbananapancakes [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah, agreed. This is a little needless.

[–]remotectrlCreston-Kenilworth [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You are so levelheaded. You should be a judge or something.

[–]imyxleTrumptown 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

How do we know this is real /u/Joan_Wayne_Gacy?

[–]Joan_Wayne_GacyBrooklyn[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can provide a bad screenshot of myself to prove that I'm meeeeeeee

[–]Originator07 7ポイント8ポイント  (13子コメント)

Do mods in other subs meetup for lunch and stuff? Or is that just one of those things Portlanders do to make them feel a little more self important?

"I have a really important lunch meeting this Thursday concerning an Internet message board on which I don't get any money for doing things on."

I can see it maybe on other really large subs. Or maybe I just don't consider this one so large since we have maybe 40 regular posters?

Just kinda wondering how many people actually see this as serious business.

[–]higher_momentsHawthorne 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think it has less to do with feeling self-important and more to do with the fact that they have some authority over an internet community that really loves finding things to get upset about.

There have been several subreddit-wide discussions about the sort of content and direction we the users want the sub to take--which I gather weren't lacking in input--so it seems reasonable that the moderators would like to discuss things in person.

And even though the posts here are dominated by the 40 or so most active users, the readership of the sub is quite a bit larger--this is the third most popular city subreddit per capita--in fact, there are about 300 users online right now--so I'd wager that these sorts of administrative decisions matter (to some extent) to many more than the couple dozen of us who might speak up about it.

[–]Originator07 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huh. I'm still interested to know how many other mod teams meet up regularly. I can see that maybe some content should be moderated, because of the non-poster readership. I can see why FZM walked away, because when it all boils down, this sub really isn't "serious business". I guess I'm just curious as to how seriously other mods take this, and why, and if other subs this size hold this kind of mentality. I understand being proud of something you created, and that's cool. But is treating it almost like a business the norm?

[–]explodeder 7ポイント8ポイント  (10子コメント)

I moderate /r/cyclocross, which is about one fifth the size of /r/Portland. Once another mod was in town for work, so we went on a bike ride in the woods because riding bikes is fun.

[–]Originator07 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

That makes sense. You are part of a sub that concerns a hobby. Living in the same area isn't a hobby, haha.

[–]imyxleTrumptown 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Is drinking a hobby?

[–]santiamiammobile>desktop flair activated 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The way I do it? Absolutely.

[–]Originator07 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Alcohol? I guess. It's referred to as a hobby by people who aren't interesting/motivated/creative enough to find a real hobby.

Water? No. It's kind of a neccessity.

[–]GenXSlackerMontavilla [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

After my alcohol hobby water is most definitely a necessity.

[–]oregone1Hosford-Abernethy [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

You can be my friend on Untappd.

[–]remotectrlCreston-Kenilworth [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

How many badges do you have?

[–]oregone1Hosford-Abernethy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

1,624. Embarrassingly too many.

[–]duckduck_gooseBelmont [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think it's faster and easier and even better to communicate in person. Lunch just helps soothe the burn when it's with someone you dislike. Like lunch and signing divorce papers

[–]QuantumRealismDowntown [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I get a touch of arrogance coming off of this guy. Seems very invested in himself as a source of authority.

Joan here is a little too much of a censor for my tastes.

I think BTV is a good choice.

[–]fulcrumpdxJohn's Landing -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Jesus, now I'm curious what Epic did.. He always seemed like a fair and intelligent mod to me.