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[–]DrRad 73ポイント74ポイント  (105子コメント)

Honest question...why did people care that much? Over on NeoGAF people are mad as hell that there is no female link. I literally never once thought "you know what I wish I could play as a female link".

[–]RedBari 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think a Zelda game where you actually play as Zelda would be a lot cooler.

[–]gbinasia 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

The compromise I could see them doing in the future is playing both the Zelda and Link parts. But this whole controversy is a bit ridiculous. I'm a guy, I always loved Tomb Raider, the idea of playing a male Lara Croft would make me livid. It's just not what the game is about, really.

[–]thorvard 49ポイント50ポイント  (9子コメント)

I agree. I don't know why they would want a female Link. Now, if they want to make a game starring Zelda as the main character, fine. Make Link a character to be saved.

Maybe I should start a petition to make Samus a man. ;)

[–]SupDoodlol 16ポイント17ポイント  (7子コメント)

I think it would be cool from the standpoint that it is totally plausible within the Zelda universe. Considering most every Link from a new game is a completely new reincarnation, it would make sense that Link is sometimes reincarnated as a female.

I don't think gender swapping both Ganon and Zelda would be a good move though. I agree on the Zelda main character as well, that could be cool if executed well.

[–]The_Lightkeeper 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every reincarnation we have seen keeps the same gender as the original so I'm not sure why the gender would suddenly change. I agree though that playing as Zelda would be cool. Or even perhaps a new character or Impa.

[–]LionOhDay 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's been said it passes through genders, hence Zelda is only ever a female in the hylian line.

So No it doesn't make sense in universe.

[–]ranavalona -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Where has that been said?

[–]LionOhDay 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Hyrule Historia.

The Goddess Hylia calls a descendant of Link one of the knights of hyrule to protect hyrule in times of great need. They would gain his strength and courage and fight to protect the Hyrulian royal family.

Sure it's not said " only guy " however when you look at it from Medieval or Mythological points of view, Knights were guys. A knight in shining armor protecting their princess who've they have sworn to protect.

Sure Link COULD be female, there's no rule saying they can't, but the tradition in Zelda, and even in the bigger mythology it draws from would make it very much so not the norm.

By making the knight a woman you complicate the narrative. You've changed it slightly and it's expected you'll change it more. In the same way if you changed the Frog prince into a Princess you change the narrative of that story, and are then expected to change it further.

Those are my 2 cents on it, and I don't know if I did a good job explaining it. Oh well.

[–]chelsea_c 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Idk: a well-done female incarnation of Ganon would be pretty damn interesting.

[–]Baryn 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Over on NeoGAF people are mad as hell that there is no female link.

GAF is an SJW hellhole.

[–]_a_n_ 23ポイント24ポイント  (15子コメント)

I think it would be a good move, but I'm not angry about it or anything. Link has always been a blank slate character. You can change his or his horse's name to "I am a girl" so why not just make it another choice in order for the player to insert him or herself further into the game?

[–]JavelinR 25ポイント26ポイント  (10子コメント)

I don't even think I've seen anyone "angry" so much as disappointed. Lots of schadenfreude though. Some people who didn't want that option really didn't want it.

[–]PrnPolt 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

cool word, now if only i could pronounce it

[–]freundTech 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

The word is from german and literally translated means "harm pleasure". Basically being happy about something bad happening to someone else. I'm not sure how it's pronounced in english, but in german you pronounce "eu" like "oi". (Also the "a" is pronounced different in german, but I can't think of an english word with that pronunciation).

[–]_cortex 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't forget that "Sch" in german is "sh" in english (like in shell or she). So all in all you have sh-ah-den-fr-oi-d-eh!

[–]TychoRC 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe this will help~

[–]MtHammer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shah-den-froi-duh

[–]Webfooter17 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/e/e7/Medic_specialcompleted11.wav?t=20100625235950

[–]chelsea_c -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I saw a lot of comments like "female link would ruin the series forever!", "SJWs are ruining the world!" so yeah, from my perception the anti-female link crowd is a lot more "angry" than the people who think it would be fun/interesting...

[–]regendo 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not anymore, probably, because the voice-over clearly says "Link". I wouldn't be against a male/female option or against just having Link be female for one iteration but I do like that they seem to be making him into more of an actual character and less of a player stand-in.

[–]_a_n_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's true. I suppose getting rid of naming your character is inevitable when and if a game has voice-acting.

It makes me sad there's no naming Link but I vastly prefer this over something like the voice-acting dialogue strategically avoiding saying your name...

I'll add that choosing your gender would preserve some of that player agency and would just require recording separate dialogue for pronouns. But that's neither here nor there.

[–]TSPhoenix 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is Link even a male name though?

[–]regendo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it'd work just fine for a female character.

[–]bigstrat2003 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because they lack any sense of perspective on what deserves being upset about.

[–]uss1701jb 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

Because NeoGAF is an SJW shithole.

[–]hillman7 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not sure why you're being downvoted...I think they'd be the first to admit they're a haven for SJWs

[–]metalmariox 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

No arguments here

[–]Frickelmeister -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then why do they bitch about Link not being female? S/he's clearly a pre-op, pre-hormone-treatment male-to-female transsexual. Duh! Use your imagination, ShitlordGAF!

[–]chickenmer 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you a boy?

Or are you a girl?

[–]shadowCloudrift 4ポイント5ポイント  (15子コメント)

https://www.reddit.com/r/GirlGamers/comments/4o2s8t/aonuma_explains_why_there_will_not_be_an_option/

They're also mad too it seems.

By the way, has there ever been romance between Zelda and Link? If Link is female...

[–]JavelinR 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

Other than Skyward Sword, the non-canon Hyrule Warriors, and maybe Spirit Tracks there really isn't much between Zelda and Link. In most games they barely even talk to one another.

[–]TheNittles 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

In the Oracles, he gets a kiss from Zelda and gets little hearts above his head.

And, though I certainly wouldn't classify it as a romance, there's definitely a strong bond between Link and Tetra in Wind Waker.

[–]ShallowBasketcase 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always thought of them as good buddies in WW. Medli seemed like a more plausible love interest in that one, and there's still not much to go on there.

Zelda games just aren't built on a lot of romance, usually.

[–]The14thNoah 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, that sub is full of mostly dudes.

[–]poppy-picklesticks 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good.

I went into that subreddit a few times, and I swear the people I spoke to on there were like every negative stereotype about female gamers rolled into one.

[–]ranavalona -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Make Link and Zelda gay. It's a fantasy world, they can do what they want.

[–]DoubleU12 0ポイント1ポイント  (21子コメント)

people want a female link because he isnt a character, he is an avatar and it is less immersive to play a male avatar for female players.

If link had personality and emotions like say Mario or Samus, no one would want to change Link.

[–]Baryn 17ポイント18ポイント  (18子コメント)

No, Link is a character. A male character.

[–]DoubleU12 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

XD Not really. I would agree if he had personality and showed emotion but he doesn't.

And thanks to the historia and the connected time line which everyone loves so very much devalues link even further. You don't play as Link, you play as a link. Just another blank slate hero for the player to project themselves onto to go temporarily solve the same problem as the last link and the 1 before that. : )

[–]SomeMetroid 0ポイント1ポイント  (16子コメント)

Eh, he's a character with many different incarnations - although the courage of spirit comes to reside in each Link, each Link is an individual person himself. I'd be open to the spirit of Courage being genderless itself, and the vessel that holds it possibly being either gender in future titles.

[–]bubblegumpandabear 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, I'm a girl and it's never been less immersive in all the years I've played Zelda (can't say if that's the same for other girls though.) I actually would like it more if there was a game with Zelda as the main character. Instead of making Link female, it would be cool to see Zelda as he hero who has to use wisdom to save Hyrule.

[–]Chet_Awesomelad 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it'd cool. I don't think the game is lacking for not having a female alternative, but I'd certainly play the hell out of a female Link if that was an option.

[–]Zorkamork -4ポイント-3ポイント  (10子コメント)

Because why not? Like, I love Zelda, it's probably one of my favorite series, but it's not like 'Link' has a super strong character behind him. Plus considering stuff like WW showing the literal point was 'Link' wasn't one dude but rather the concept of the hero that rises against darkness, why not have one of those be a lady?

I don't think many are that 'mad' about it, more annoyed, especially considering last I checked the reasoning for it has been pretty spotty. Like in that 4 player co-op that wasn't 4 Swords it was 'well you can put on a dress' which makes it like 'so then what's the fuckin harm in making one a lady?' and then in this one it was something about the 'story' requiring it when they made a big point of saying how little backstory there was to start with and all.

It's less 'fuck you Nintendo you suck' and more 'why do game companies CONSTANTLY act like 'maybe one can be a chick' is some kinda crazy request'. It's not just Zelda it's Zelda on top of shit like 'no female Assassins because programming a female model is hard' and all.

[–]MarvelousMagikarp 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

You act like a female Link is some obvious thing that Nintendo is actively keeping from you.

Getting annoyed that there isn't a genderbent version of a male character is super weird to me. Why would, or should, you expect that? It's not like Zelda is lacking in cool female characters, and so many games today have female protagonists or offer a choice. So what if the protagonist is a guy? Does it really matter so much?

I don't think I've ever cared what gender a character is in a video game at all, let alone as much as people seem to about Link.

[–]Baryn -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Because why not?

No upper body strength.

[–]ranavalona 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Zelda games aren't exactly focused on realistic anatomy. You can lift massive boulders just with magic gloves, I don't think muscle mass is a concern.

[–]Baryn -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you need to start the game with the Power Glove if you play as female link.

[–]Zorkamork 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Link IS known for his sick guns

[–]DPsalt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they did go with the idea, it should be non-canon.

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    [–]not_usually_serious 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    can't change a y chromosome

    [–]videogameboss 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    that and their ugly faces.

    [–]not_usually_serious 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm pretty sure they can remove fatty tissue from their ass and implant it on their face

    [–]TallenMyriad -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Can you link me the comments? I know Nintendo joked about female link but not really confirmed anything.

    [–]GamerBellatron -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I sometimes wonder if they introduced Linkle to see if she was popular enough for her own game title.

    [–]Okichah -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Theres been like a dozen Legend of Zeldas, you would think eventually we would have a female Zelda by now. /s