Why are hero shooters taking over?

BobTheSquonk · 17時間前

And I'm just over here having a great time playing Reflex.

AGameDeveloper · 15時間前

First of all hero shooters are not the thing that's big right now. A specific hero shooter by one company known for making unusually amazing games stepped in. What we are seeing right now is the exact same shit that happened with MMOs after WoW came out.

"Why are MMOs so big right now!?" Was exactly what people said .. Then came dozens of WoW killers the following few years later that all flopped because they could not compete.

Blizzard is just doing it again but this time its with shooters. The one caveat here is that shooters are not life steeling time sinks and thus we will begin seeing more shooters like the new Quake emerge and probably not flop because its possible to play both. This is amazing news.

edit: Another thing to keep in mind is that its untrue that skill plays no role in Overwatch. While class choices and teamwork play a giant chunk of it with skill you can overcome soft counters and win even when on paper you should be losing.

zicho · 10時間前

You should check /r/reflex out.

TriforceGamemaster · 1日前

Should be scared, Games like Overwatch set a bad trend in gaming because of popularity. The sad part is that casual gamers make up too much of the base not to cater to them and their don't want to git gud but still feel like a winner mentality

doombro · 17時間前

Once a certain kind of game really takes off like TF2 or overwatch, other devs are going to try and get pieces of that cake for at least the next 4 or 5 years. People keep playing them so they're gonna keep getting made. Only thing you can really do about it is play everything else.

The biggest sacriledge of these games IMO is the MOBA/MMO gameplay. Rather than FPS skill being the cornerstone of the game, it's about having the right dps/healer/tank combo. In an FPS there should only be DPS in my personal opinion.

BlueEclipse · 17時間前

The audience for games is much bigger than it was when AFPS was at it's height and is still growing. "Hero shooters" or class/team-based shooters in general appeal to a wider audience. A more casual gamer wants a lot of content, and even if it may not actually add much more depth, they want a lot more stuff do to, thus you get shooters with classes, special abilities, etc. Arena shooters are very fun and they no doubt could find an audience today given the right amount of production & marketing., but the fact of the matter is that a faster-paced shooter is simply hard to get into, doesn't translate well to consoles (which is still where a massive part of the market lies), and doesn't necessarily appeal to a more casual audience. Overwatch has done well because it's fairly inviting with it's whole style and seems to focus on some kind of balance between competitiveness and casual entertainment. Quake Champions, while details are sparse on it right now, sounds like it's trying to strike a balance between an Overwatch-like game and pure fast-paced FPS. Who knows whether or not it could be good or a complete mess, but hey, at least it's a step in the right direction.

OpRaider · 12時間前

So you're upset. Count to 10, breath slowly. It's gonna be okay kid.

Overwatch is fun, and like it or not, it takes skill. Just because you don't like them, doesn't mean they are bad games. They are popular because they are fun. Teamwork is fun. Duels, 1v1s, to a lot of people are not.

PROJTHEBENIGNANT · 17時間前

class based shooters, if done properly, can add a lot to a game. Tribes is the gold standard for this. Even though it's loadout based, the loadouts can functionally be considered the same as classes. It hits the right beats on general combat ability for each loadout while still letting people specialize in doing certain roles. Combat and core fps skills still matter, but what roles are being filled also matter, creating a lot more interesting decision making depth.

Classes let people specialize, which is appealing to many. It also creates asymmetric matchups, another thing people like. Lastly, they can create more strategic gameplay if done properly. People should realize that class systems are not inherently dumbed down or less skill-based.

spessu_sb · 14時間前

Money speaks, todays games are all about that unfortunately.

7ep3s · 13時間前

Quake 3 in essence was kind of a hero shooter with all the gladiators having been pulled out of their worlds by the vadrigar to fight in the arenas. Each of them had a littpe backstory etc, their unique chat lines when playing them as bots.. it just wasnt over emphasized and they didnt have cooldowns/ abilities

padicakes · 12時間前

There's this weird thing where people want to identify with a character that they are playing as, either aesthetically (characters that look like how the players look or want to look) or kinesthetically (they have powers or abilities that the player likes). I personally don't get it, I really just want the least amount of fiddling around before I get to actually play the game, but there you go.

The other reason is that distinct characters give you something to sell, and the guy that sells more, wins, because they then have more money for marketing (gross) but also for polishing up gameplay and features (actually kind of nice).

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