Corey savage makes alot of fatous comments and strawmen attacks in that article, but heres one of the most glaring statements: 'Ask the Japanese Hikikomoris how happy they are. MGTOW may have started as a rational response to irrational circumstances, but this will be the eventuality of all men who lack direction.'

Whose beliefs and direction should we accept as our own, mr savage? Yours? The movement is called MGTOW for a reason. Members are given the encouragement and freedom to do what they want, and make their own choices. For some, that involves a slovenly life of welfare, porn and video games, but most are able to make healthier decisions than that. You give them too little credit to survive without your advice.

This is complemented by a reply from clark kent: 'The only reason the herbivore men in Japan still exist is because the country has tight borders. If foreign PUAs and marriage-minded men were allowed to flood into Japan and take up residence, those waifu-loving dudes would become irrelevant... They wouldn't even be history.'

That shows ignorance about the main cause of the herbivore movement, which is a rejection of the salaryman role. Its a brutal life that requires indentured servitude to a corporation, just so that they can earn enough money and prestige to satisfy japanese women, who have some of the highest standards in asia. Salarymen work at least 60 hours a week (often sleeping in a bunk at their job), then hand their wages over to a cold hearted wife. How many foreigners will step up to fulfil that social requirement? Clarks statement tastes of white knighting, since he essentially ignores the role played by japanese women and places the blame solely on men.