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[–]ZenithRadio 118ポイント119ポイント120ポイント 7日前 (109子コメント)
And on a decent pc, the highest quality is extremely smooth! I was expecting very blocking lighting but they did a very good job on the implementation.
[–]TehBrian 122ポイント123ポイント124ポイント 7日前* (106子コメント)
but they did a very good job
IIRC its just made by one person, /u/sp614x.
He's a great guy.
[–]ObsidianG 144ポイント145ポイント146ポイント 7日前 (103子コメント)
Then it's the singular, gender neutral 'they' used when you do not know the preferred pronouns of the person in question.
[–]Toiler_in_Darkness 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 7日前 (16子コメント)
There are some cogent arguments that we should move to a constructed language. It really doesn't make sense to have gendered pronouns at all, in my opinion.
[–]SgtFinnish 38ポイント39ポイント40ポイント 7日前 (3子コメント)
That's what I love about Finnish. No gendered pronouns and we still refer to everyone as 'it'
[–]helpstuckinminecraft 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
Username checks out.
[–]Nate_of_88 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 7日前 (1子コメント)
Does that make everyone a shitlord by default or no one a shitlord at all?
[–]GlobeOfIron 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
If everybody is a shitlord, nobody is.
[–]AmadeusMop 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7日前* (11子コメント)
It's probably not going to happen. Just like how the US hasn't really adopted the metric system.
[–]Toiler_in_Darkness 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7日前 (10子コメント)
I'm not worried: the US is busy becoming as irrelevant as all the other countries that can't accept the metric system. ;P
[–]gameboy17 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 7日前 (1子コメント)
All the other, what, five countries?
[–]LinAGKar 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 6日前 (0子コメント)
Other two countries.
[–]Working_With_Code 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
Smh.
[–]uxixu 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 6日前 (5子コメント)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/69/ae/01/69ae0104b424acd26a0f5c4a8588befa.jpg :p
[–]Fascinating_Frog 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 6日前 (1子コメント)
To which I say : nope.
[–]uxixu 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (0子コメント)
NASA hasn't been to the moon since. ;)
[–]Toiler_in_Darkness 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (2子コメント)
Keep milking the apex of your nation. It's been all downhill since. :P
[–]hellphish 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (1子コメント)
Internet is a better accomplishment than moon landings, imo
[–]Toiler_in_Darkness 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (0子コメント)
Depending on what specific tech you consider "the internet".
TCP/IP was American, but most people don't even know enough about their network stack to care. Any protocol would do.
The worldwide web and hyperlinked documents (web pages) are British.
[–]TheDiscoJew -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 7日前 (53子コメント)
preferred pronouns
Get a load of this guy.
[–]LewsTherinTelamon 46ポイント47ポイント48ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
"They" as a gender inspecific pronoun has been around for centuries, and it's pretty much the furthest thing from "preferred," since in most cases you only use it when you've never seen the person in question.
[–]Dfnoboy 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 7日前 (48子コメント)
what?
[+]JKNT スコアが基準値未満のコメント-92ポイント-91ポイント-90ポイント 7日前 (46子コメント)
Basically, Social Justice Warriors go overboard with using "correct" pronouns for people that have a different gender as something other than male or female. "Preferred pronouns" are the person insisting they must be called something other than he or she, and so have specific other pronouns. It's a lot more complicated than this, but simply put, preferred pronouns are stupid.
[–]Gigadweeb 37ポイント38ポイント39ポイント 7日前 (1子コメント)
Can we please keep this debate off here? A lot of good game subs go sour because of this.
[–]Ophidios 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
Remember the shitstorm that happened when Alex debuted? I sure do.
[–]x1xHangmanx1x 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 7日前 (1子コメント)
It's been a part of English grammar for centuries to refer to the subject of your sentence as aptly as you can. I don't think this has much at all to do with people getting offended.
What if he just off handedly said "he" but the creator of optifine is actually a girl? If you don't know, you would use "they" as opposed to having people correct you.
[–]JKNT 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (0子コメント)
Alright, thanks for the correction.
[–]Chilli_Axe 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 7日前 (11子コメント)
If a trans woman asks to be called a she, why not just call them a she?
[–]Nutella_Bacon 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
I'm pretty sure they mean people who want to be called "xe" or other pronouns that aren't he/she.
Source: used to use TiA, before I noticed it's pretty much all trolls.
[–]kolbeh 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 7日前 (8子コメント)
He wasn't arguing about that. He was talking about pronouns other than he or she.
[–]dream6601 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 7日前 (7子コメント)
But that's not what preferred pronouns means, I'm am a trans woman, my preferred pronouns are she/her/hers nothing exotic, so why the rage against the whole concept.
[–]kolbeh 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (1子コメント)
I...was arguing for preferred pronouns?
[–]Crimson_Shiroe 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (1子コメント)
There are people who prefer things such as ze, xe, zim, zer, etc because they define themselves as "non-bianary" (i.e. they are neither male nor female but another gender entirely)
[–]SomethingEnglish -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 7日前 (2子コメント)
The rage isn't against legitimate use of preferred pronouns it's against pronouns like xe/xyr or zhe/zher
[–]OurSuiGeneris 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (0子コメント)
The argument goes "you don't tell an anorexic person they actually do look fat, so you similarly don't endorse a trans person's distorted self-perception."
Something something you wouldn't preferred pronouns a car.
[–]quarterto 51ポイント52ポイント53ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
TIL calling people what they ask you to is stupid
[–]Vexing 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 7日前 (16子コメント)
You cant be bothered to change one word to make someone feel less uncomfortable? Pretty selfish, dude.
[–]JKNT 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (2子コメント)
You just said dude, implying I'm male. Wow you just made me really uncomfortable how selfish of you! I'm actually a non binary transatlantic airflightkin.
[–]Vexing 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前* (1子コメント)
Well then Ill call you whatever you want. When you learn that a friend doesnt like being called an asshole, you dont continue calling them an asshole because you think they are. Its common courtesy. Whats your preferred pronoun then?
[–]JKNT -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 6日前 (0子コメント)
Mae/mair/maes/maeself are my set of preferred pronouns. These pronouns can't be used by anyone else otherwise they won't be MY Special Snowflake pronouns.
[+]Working_With_Code スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25ポイント-24ポイント-23ポイント 7日前 (12子コメント)
Makes me quite uncomfortable when I have to lie. Sorry.
[–]Namagem 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 7日前 (11子コメント)
You aren't, though. Gender is not just your physical characteristics.
[–]Working_With_Code -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 7日前 (10子コメント)
Why did the era of the internet bring this into existence. You do know gender is a really simple concept. Why do these people use gender as a way to say "personality"? I don't care if you feel like you are something else because you didn't get enough hormones as a developing child, that doesn't make it true.
[–]Dfnoboy 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 7日前 (11子コメント)
i know what they are. i was asking what your problem with it was... but you revealed your ignorance by trying to demean the whole issue by using the "SJW" term.
Sorry for trying to explain and offering my opinion. My problem was not with preferred pronouns, but that people get overly offended when someone uses an "incorrect" pronoun. Although calling people ignorant as a way to put them down doesn't make you much better, you know.
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[–]Sparrows413 34ポイント35ポイント36ポイント 7日前 (4子コメント)
if they prefer they can correct them
if they prefer
they can correct them
Boy howdy would you look at that.
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[–]Moiken 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 7日前 (2子コメント)
I'm not sure what you are trying to say. You seem to be advocating for saying he, but you use they multiple times.
[–]Nibz11 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (1子コメント)
because I'm not referencing a specific indiviual but it shows how confusing it is using a plural pronoun to reference an individual.
[+]AmadeusMop スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25ポイント-24ポイント-23ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
'Preferred pronouns' is a concept that's become associated with ultraprogressive ideals and political correctness around here.
[–]Datdus 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 7日前 (1子コメント)
Get a load of this they.
Fixed that for you.
[–]_Kyu 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
of them*
[+]WarVDine スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
https://youtu.be/03e-kKjko_U
[–]IanPPK -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 7日前* (19子コメント)
If you want to steer clear from this, just collapse my comment tree
1) This is /r/Minecraft, so could we please keep this sub clean of this debate. I have my opinions on the matter, but this isn't the place. I will say this however:
2) He/she and (s)he are the grammatically proper forms of uncertainty if you're really gonna try to correct someone. They is a conventionally accepted form but is not grammatically proper.
3) You haven't a clue as to said user's preference nor gender (nor does it really matter in this situation), and I haven't seen anyone complain but you. Using "he" isn't doing any harm anyhow, OptiFine's dev is simply being recognized.
Edit: header
[–]robocroque 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 7日前 (6子コメント)
Agreed besides point 2), it is very much grammatically correct.
[–]Dr_Narwhal 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 7日前 (1子コメント)
"They" is usually plural, but "he" and "she" are singular. Some style guides maintain that it is grammatically incorrect to use "they" as a singular pronoun, while others consider it acceptable. Many suggest to restructure the sentence so as to eliminate the problem altogether.
[–]96fps 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
We can talk about an individual and say 'they are' same way one uses the royal plural.
[+]IanPPK スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 7日前* (3子コメント)
It is technically incorrect, and many high school English teachers and college professors will make a point of it. I say that it is conventionally accepted to concede that it is commonly used and understood in common conversation as a singular term.
My point in saying that was to call out the commenter for calling 'they' the proper term for neutrality in gender. Anyhow, I don't feel like discussing further as a part of point one of my initial comment.
[–]Rawmin 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
You keep saying "technically incorrect" like there's some sort of worldwide, be-all-end-all, official rulebook for English grammar. There isn't.
[–]ilaeriu 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7日前 (1子コメント)
Technically incorrect according to whom? While many countries have instituted official governmenral bodies to regulate their languages (some of the more well known ones are France's Academie française or Spain's Real Academia Española) English has no central authority governing language use. While various universities or press organizations might release their own internal style guides, there is no single correct way to speak the many dialects of English. Anyone who tries to correct the singular/plural they is being completely pedantic and ignores the fact that language is only as good as its speakers.
If a lot of English speakers agree that they can be plural, then guess what -- no matter how much stuck-up pedants whine about how it is technically inaccurate, it won't stop us from using it.
[–]IanPPK 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前* (0子コメント)
Meh, I'll bite.
The syntax of English and it's Germanic and Latin roots, as well as those who study and teach the language. I will concede that yes, there is no body regulating English, but it's so widely spoken that that would be impossible. I will also repeat, I don't care if it's used in common conversation, but it is messy to use in formal writing where there are pronouns abound, making 'they' add ambiguity.
[–]Moiken 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 7日前 (3子コメント)
Look it up, it is grammatically correct. Singular and gender neutral. Tom Scott has a great video on it too.
[+]IanPPK スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 7日前 (2子コメント)
Conventionally accepted in speech (myself included) and grammatically correct are two different things. Many college professors and high school English teachers will make a point of it. People use different grammar in passing talk than from formal writing. I don't mind it being used, I use it myself, but it is not the proper generic phrase, especially in formal writing.
http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/they.html If you don't believe me.
Anywho, I wish to abide by my first point as to not be hypocritical, so I shall refrain from arguing further.
[–]Namagem 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 7日前 (1子コメント)
Because grammar doesn't evolve over time. It stays stagnant, and rules from hundreds of years ago never become obsolete or change.
[–]IanPPK -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
As a pseudo-romantic language, English has changed in terms of vocabulary, but has been the same syntactically.
[–]SirChikuwa 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
Chill. Both of their comments were.
[–]MystyrNile 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7日前 (2子コメント)
You said that but then you started a debate
[–]IanPPK 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7日前* (1子コメント)
At the same time, it's all under my comment, so it's fairly contained. It was moreso regarding future posts.
Edit: Note how the debate is about grammar, not preferred pronouns, I'll consider that a victory.
[–]caligari87 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
"I'll share my opinions now, but no one else, okay?"
[–]fexfx 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (2子コメント)
And what's with the oxford comma? And can anyone adequately explain the proper determinations for toward vs towards? How do double and triple contractions make you feel?
Language is about expressing a thought in a communicable fashion. Unless the words selected failed to convey that thought in a manner that was understandable, any babble regarding word choicer is pedantic.
[–]IanPPK 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前* (1子コメント)
Oxford comma has clearly outlined rules for use (to create a pause, separate ideas, etc.), toward and towards are interchangeable, although if the preceding verb ends in an 's,' I usually use toward ('move towards' vs. 'moves toward', akin to 'he moves' vs. 'they move'). As for double and triple contractions, I don't use them, don't mind them in speech, but would find it embarrassing to find used in formal writing.
I have said in a previous comments that I don't mind people using improper phrasing in normal communications (I do so myself), since most instances are understood. However, if it wouldn't be used in formal or professional writing excepting dialogue, it is technically improper. For instance, slang is commonly understood, but that doesn't make it proper to use.
[–]fexfx 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (0子コメント)
I was more questioning whether or not the oxford comma is "proper". As you surely know, it's been a topic of debate for a long time. Toward and Towards, Forward and Forwards, are actually regionally dialectic in nature, with each coast showing favoritism, and europe in general preferring the extraneous "s". And I probably shoudn't've brought up multiple contractions, but they're one of my favorite ways to torture grammar pedants.
So how about hir, ze and hse?
[+]Axumata スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 7日前 (1子コメント)
what if «they» is something he doesn't want to be called?
[–]SoniEx2 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
"They" is a neutral pronoun intended to be accepted anywhere. Don't like it? Deal with it. I'm trans myself and I hate it when anyone, cis or trans, complains about me using singular they for them.
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[–]Ender0610 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 7日前* (0子コメント)
No, because she/he is clunky and doesn't account for nonbinary genders. It's also grammatically correct to use they
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[–]IsASarcasticBastard 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7日前* (2子コメント)
She/he is grammatically correct, but it's clunky. They is often used as a pronoun for people of unknown gender, like this because we don't know /u/sp614x's gender, or for gender-queer individuals.
[–]pingo5 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
Wouldn't it make more sense to say he/she in this case though? In this situation they could mean a group of people OR a singular person, but we don't know. Well, i guess we know now, but if we didn't it would be difficult.
[–]ChuckHale -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 6日前 (0子コメント)
/r/tumblrinaction
[+]Working_With_Code スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
Come on now.
[–]Mattbird -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 7日前 (1子コメント)
Made by a single man...
[–]AvatarIII -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
And that man's name...
[–]Kawsiphek 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7日前 (0子コメント)
It honestly looks smoother than the vanilla torch lighting. Throw a torch on the ground and you get a nice round lit area with a smooth transition. Then place a torch down, and the lighting seems to have more squared edges and a less gradual transition. This shows best in a large fully dark room.
[–]TheNonMan 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6日前 (0子コメント)
I'm glad to see it's been improved a lot since I last used it a year or so ago, I'll definitely be testing it out again on my next days off.
π Rendered by PID 32348 on app-259 at 2016-06-13 16:12:39.927062+00:00 running 16eedbf country code: JP.
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