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[–]queyonki[S] 19ポイント20ポイント  (69子コメント)

It's hard to look at him and not think he's attractive (unless he's just not your type whatsoever), and I think that's why it's funny outside of her clever phrasing.

Why do we assume pedophiles {edit: always look like} disgusting creeps? It's a visibility problem that can actually further these types of crimes, not to mention negatively influence the lives of totally innocent people who just happen to be creepy looking.

Making a joke starts that conversation in a way that really gets people riled up, and makes people feel better about the fact that they might have a shallow attraction to a monster.

Good one, Darienne.

[–]WetCupcakesYou are a whore 8ポイント9ポイント  (68子コメント)

Well, pedophiles ARE disgusting creeps.

Just because you find one/them attractive, that doesn't change the fact that they're disgusting creeps. Their physical appearance has nothing to do with them being seen as such. It's their actions.

[–]queyonki[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (15子コメント)

I meant that people assume they just look like disgusting creeps, and that that appearance can be deceiving -- a concept commonly used in comedy.

I feel like that's pretty abundantly clear from the rest of what I wrote, but I apologize if that was misconstrued.

[–]pukerockKim Chi 17ポイント18ポイント  (14子コメント)

no, you were totally clear. people always assume pedophiles (and sex offenders in general) are these fat white guys with thick mustaches and wire-rimmed glasses who drive white vans and live with their mothers. that's not so.

[–]SalchichaIndia Ferrah 25ポイント26ポイント  (49子コメント)

What an ignorant statement coming from an LGBT sub. Most pedophiles are not child molesters or monsters. They know their feelings are wrong but they can't help it, and the majority of them don't act on it. No pedophile WANTS to be attracted to children. We never hear about non-predator pedophiles because "coming out" would literally ruin their lives.

I'm not saying being a pedophile is just like being homosexual, but they are similar in the way that the person is attracted to something that is considered wrong, and they can do nothing to change it. I know this opinion is controversial, but I feel sympathetic towards the otherwise normal people who carry that burden and would never abuse a child.

And before anyone asks, I am predominately attracted to older men in their 30's and over. And I am not saying we should be ok with pedophiles. It's just something to think about.

[–]sassactus 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Incredible. People compare gay people to pedophiles to condemn gay people... and now gay people are comparing themselves to pedophiles to defend pedophiles. Gurl, it's more fitting to compare pedophiles to psychopaths who struggle with the impulse to commit assault and violence... Yes, it sucks that they're the way they are, but they're nothing like us, i.e. people who are attracted to people who are capable of consenting to sex

[–]mothahasarrivedI'm Shannel and I wear costumes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know right, last time I got fucked in the ass I didn't have to go through a lifetime of therapy to deal with the psychological damage that was forced upon me in the situation because I was a consenting adult.

Gay people having sex is a lot different to pedophiles forcing sex. Only one of those actions leads to long lasting trauma.

That kind of not all pedophiles rhetoric will ultimately lead to more pedophiles normalising their urges imo. Being a pedophile is in a whole different ballpark to being gay.

[–]pukerockKim Chi 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

yeah, this, thank you. I'm not sure when exactly we became a sub that defends pedophiles, but it's gross

[–]serialflamingo*tips hat* M'henny 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And using the "oh but people think gays are weird, so we should understand" argument to do it.

I've seen that used to defend a lot of things on this sub, but paedophilia really takes the cake.

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

And before anyone asks, I am predominately attracted to older men in their 30's and over

This concerns me even more

[–]SalchichaIndia Ferrah 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought about you when writing that comment tbh

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lmao

[–]myhatrulesHoney Mahogany 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ur my fave

[–]SalchichaIndia Ferrah 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aw thx bb

I was ready for literally all the downvotes tho

[–]LuckyWriterMichelle Visage 2ポイント3ポイント  (23子コメント)

Yeah definitely.

I honestly put it in the same category as people who are into rape fantasies. Rape is disgusting and wrong - but it's not wrong for two people in love to act it out - and I'd rather someone who gets off on that to just fantasize about it rather than go out and actually do it.

As long as you're not hurting anyone, I say judge not lest you be judged.

Edit: and this isn't to say I'm in agreement with the thing just playing devil's advocate because there are PLENTY of people who think gay people are disgusting/wrong/immoral and there's no absolute agreed upon right/wrong in this world.

[–]Gameofthorns8 6ポイント7ポイント  (22子コメント)

There are plenty of people who think gay people are disgusting but I would not want comparisons to form with being gay and pedophilia since one involves being attracted to the same sex and the other involves being attracted to people who can't consent/no voice/more vulnerable.

[–]LuckyWriterMichelle Visage -2ポイント-1ポイント  (21子コメント)

I know - but it's the closest possible comparison. Many people think gay is disgusting and put it on the same level in their minds anyway. Are they correct? I don't believe so, but there are so very few things in this world that are absolute. So for the point of the argument...it fits.

[–]Gameofthorns8 1ポイント2ポイント  (20子コメント)

People who are against gay people usually make those comparisons and I don't think they are similar enough for a comparison. Being attracted to animals is also viewed as wrong but I would not compare it to gay people. Just because people view it wrong does not make them more similar.

[–]LuckyWriterMichelle Visage -4ポイント-3ポイント  (19子コメント)

Okay - how aren't they? Both are having a sexual attraction to an individual. Regardless of specifics scenarios. Like I understand your point on "more vulnerable" but how many gay interactions are with an older gay guy vs. a young new gay who is very vulnerable? a lot. So I mean that doesn't fit.

The point is you can't control what you're attracted to (whether it's animals, same gender, wearing a diaper, etc) and there's a lot of people who think that anything that isn't black/white/vanilla is wrong/immoral.

That's what I was trying to say. Not that they're the exact same thing but in the eyes of many, they are.

[–]Gameofthorns8 2ポイント3ポイント  (18子コメント)

There is a huge difference between being attracted to people who can't consent like children and animals...and being attracted to people who are adults. Gay people can also be pedophilles, but gay people who are attracted to other adults (which is usually the case) is different. Animals and children are more vulnerable and CAN'T consent and there needs to be a line that should be drawn.

[–]LuckyWriterMichelle Visage -3ポイント-2ポイント  (17子コメント)

Again - that's your opinion though. I'm not saying I don't agree with you because I do but the point is you cannot play morality police and put things on different levels/lines because everyone feels differently about everything.

There are people who think being gay is disgusting/wrong - what makes you more correct than them?

[–]daddysgirl666#JUSTICEFORLAILA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

werk educated dish

[–]Gameofthorns8 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As long as you know difference between being attracted to people who can consent (not children) and those who can't.

[–]coffeecokeNaysha Lopez -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

how is your kid's head?