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[Match Thread] England v Russia (self.reddevils)

Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea が 投稿 - stickied post

Manchester United Players: Rooney, Smalling, Rashford

Other Players of interest: Stones?

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Teams

England: Hart, Walker, Smalling, Cahill, Rose; Dier, Alli, Rooney; Lallana, Sterling, Kane

Russia: Akinfeev; Schennikov, V. Berezutski, Ignashevich, Smolnikov; Neustädter, Golovin; Smolov, Shatov, Kokorin; Dzyuba

SUBS

England: Heaton, Forster, Clyne, Bertrand, Stones, Henderson, Milner, Rashford, Vardy, Sturridge, Wilshere, Barkley

Russia: Guilherme, Lodygin, A. Berezutski, Kombarov, Schennikov, Shishkin, Denisov, Torbinski, Mamaev, Samedov

Match Updates

The Russian National Anthem is BOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo

Group huddle from the refs is on point. Can't wait till they make a giant cock-up

Arsene Wenger in attendance, hoping to sign a 17 year old Wayne Rooney from Everton

Kick off

2' England have yet to score, the Rooney project has failed

2' Rooney picks out a beauty of a pass, comes to nothing

3' Lallana wins a free kick. Nice to see a liverpool player win something

4' McDonalds have an ad for 'Player Escorts' Lmao

5' Akinfeev asks a question of his defence: Mission Report: December 16th, 1991?

6' Russia get the ball in the England box but comes to nothing

7' More shots on the Russian goal, Akinfeev happy to punch

9' Kane almost gets on the end of a half shot from Alli. Terrible Russian defending

11' Walker looks lively as England win a corner

12' Corner is taken by Harry Kane

13' Sterling wins another corner

13' Corner is taken by Harry Kane

13' Rooney plays cross field ball to Kane who misses from far away

16' Rose gives away a free kick

17' Header straight at Hart

17' Sterling and Rose work it well, nobody in the middle to finish

21' Rose makes a meal of the cross. Still scoreless

22' Lallana cocks up a great England move. Russian defence static

24' Sterling too slow on the one-v-one, tackled to win a corner

24' Corner is taken by Harry Kane

25' Lallana is playing well

28' Kane has the ball in the net but is offside

31' Rooney clears ball from the box

32' Rooney with a great pass, out for a corner

33' Corner is taken by Harry Kane

34' Rooney shoots straight at Akinfeev after good Alli work

36' Kane wins a corner

36' Corner is taken by Harry Kane

37' Cahill almost gets on the end of Kane cross/shot

38' Vardy warming up........

45' England creating plenty, but are always either offside or failing to connect with crosses

HALF TIME England 0 - 0 Russia

Neil Lennon "Rooney? He's done okay"

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[–]A6M6Smalling 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rooney and Walker have been our best players so far. Rose has been good too but he's quite shit going forward, if only Shaw didn't get injured.

[–]macAaronEGiggs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing would make me happier than for Rooney to win player of the tournament as CM and by lifting the trophy.

[–]noob_senpai 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rooney also plays short passes and through balls instead of whipping the ball to the wings 90% of the time - like he did for us when he played in the midfield- which makes me wonder if it was due to specific instructions he got from LVG. Also could be that since then he got a few tips on how to improve his game, but either way he seems to be playing better and settling in more in the midfield.

[–]agumon424Scholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rashford gonna score the winner. I bet nothing on it!

[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Regarding the United players, Smalling has dealt with Dzyuba quite well, and Rooney has been sensational in midfield.

As for the others, Alli's been good. Sterling not so much, Lallana is okay but dreadful in front of goal. Rose has been good as well.

[–]macAaronEGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fullbacks have been dominant, too. Kane looks winded already.

[–]KaratekickinCantonaKing Eric 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anyone feel this game looks very familiar to our season?

[–]FizzypoptartsRooney 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

We didnt create nearly as many chances in most of our games

[–]KaratekickinCantonaKing Eric 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We didn't but what I was getting at is we look dominating for 45 mins with nothing to show.

[–]prsquaredJanuzaj 26ポイント27ポイント  (7子コメント)

God... Rooney has been fantastic so far.

[–]fakeplasticairbag 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

Entire team has been fantastic bar Lallana who's been wasteful.

Walker and Rose have been brilliant

[–]omegahawke -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pundits saying lallana has been great

[–]HomelessSmurfMartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He has been great imo, well he's been working hard at least

[–]ijd17Uncle Ant 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

wouldn't say Lallana has been awful, just hasn't finished the chances he's had.

[–]Cairde_Le_Sochair -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's why he said wasteful.

[–]ijd17Uncle Ant 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

shit, I misread it haha,my apologies

[–]Cairde_Le_Sochair 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha I do it myself all the time.

[–]OTownTrillaFoRilla 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think its Rashford time, fellas. Lallana, we've seen enough.

[–]spoofexKing Cantona 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Danny Rose been great.

[–]Skyraptor7LVG red army... 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are playing better than France did imo

[–]DelTrottervan Nistelrooy 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kane's being a lazy fucker. Either making no effort to get back onside or standing still when Alli is looking to play him in.

Lallana wouldn't be half bad if he had end product.

[–]cristiano10sMartial 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alli and Rooney have been running the show

[–]vauno 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Russians are so mediocre.

[–]EpicRumourTime 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can someone explain to me why the fuck Kane is taking the corners??

[–]TrickyxoneCoppell 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The same reason our most succesful season as far as scoring from set pieces Rooney and Rvp took them, Blind took them last season leaving himself out of position, Gerrard took them for scum, Lampard and Drogba took them for Chelsea and Henry took them for Arse, for some reason pro footballers can't cross a stationary ball into the box under no pressure.

[–]headkick93 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would love to know. He's not bad in the air and we have Rooney, sterling and lallana to take them

[–]CaptainDread 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Walker goes full Jones in slo-mo.

[–]StannisJrScholesy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm looking forward to seeing Rooney in a CM spot week in week out next season.

[–]il_thorHerrera 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice ball from Rooney

[–]TrickyxoneCoppell 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rooney getting back to defend again, where are the people who said Rooneys engine/stamina as gone earlier in the season?

[–]kaizoku7 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dunno if anyone's questioned his stamina (bar early season or back from injury when he looks out of shape).

I've often said he doesn't/can't work hard enough as a striker anymore, it's different from getting back to defend. In the box every run you make is mirrored by one or two giant defenders, to lose him you have to work and fight harder than him. It's not just a marathon, it's a battle between two athletes.

On the flip side watch the runs Kane makes tonight and try to recall the last time Rooney did anything like that. Every run Kane makes that we see is probably the result of a whole bunch of runs he's made where team mates didn't pass to him. He's stretched the defence and made them work to follow him and eventually he gets away.

[–]kaizoku7 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The scouse contingent have been frustrating albeit dangerous. Should really show more quality in the final third.

But as Utd fans we should see the difference between Utd and other teams. Players streaming forward to attack, often 5-6 players in and around the box, at least 4 for most attacks.

Either LVGs system sucked or our players were too lazy to work hard enough or too slow to get up and down.

[–]raptorbadgerGiggs 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish Smalling would defend without grabbing shirts every time. Or at least make it less obvious.

[–]jagajaazzistCantona 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

People looking down from the ISS could tell Kane was offside, Lallana you fucking idiot.

[–]macAaronEGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kane is taking corners?

[–]DangoManUtdJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fking Sterling.. how did City pay that much for him?

[–]jagajaazzistCantona 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

ffs lallana you mug

[–]CamembertRun 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lallana, Scouse quality confirmed -___-, dear lord.

[–]cristiano10sMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol Lallana shit cunt

[–]itsandercontrolJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lallana is a bit shit isn't he?

[–]macAaronEGiggs 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Liverpool supporter is swearing at me right now because he thinks Rooney has never played CM before. Infuriating.

[–]blueekaJOSE! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

OMG wtf!! why was no one there :(

[–]4ninerRooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's been all England so far. Rooney and Smalling looking good.

[–]d3m0li5h3r 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm loving your minute to minute updates..

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did that ball hit the crossbar after the save?

[–]macAaronEGiggs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alli going for the Hollywood shot when there are 5 players around him and a Russian defense scrambling.

[–]valkon_grLvG contract extension 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

In 2 years Rooney will be playing as a center back

[–]4ninerRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do England supporters drink more following a loss or a win?

[–]reddevilsruled08Scholes 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anyone else thinking of pretending not to be English in Marseille at this point? It is quite maddening whats happening :(

Edit: Not saying the Russians are any better either

[–]FilipinooFlash 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Rooney hate is off the charts from other fans, come on Wayne!

[–]uniy64Mata 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

waza is playing center midfield today. hope he delivers.

[–]Um5acentric 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

What do you all think of Rooney's position? Consensus on /r/soccer seems to be that he doesn't deserve to start let alone play deep but he's been excellent for us in that spot since he's returned.

[–]KaratekickinCantonaKing Eric 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think he will turn some opinions around. Most people have only seen him play as striker so there's cause for apprehension.

[–]opacino 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can see Russia getting a goal in this game and shutting up shop. England might have to chase the game.

My head is going for a 1-1. But I wouldn't be surprised if England nick it late. I'm also calling Shatov the score for the Russians and Cahill to score for England.

[–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This Mars advert seems a bit in bad taste after the events in Marseille.

[–]elreydelasurOffYerFuckingPerch 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Smalling has to corral Dzyuba. You stop him and you stop Russia's main attacking threat. Hopefully he's in Smalling's back pocket for the duration of the match

[–]Moptop39 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not a united fan but doesn't Smalling generally do quite well against physical strikers basing this off his games against Kane.

[–]elreydelasurOffYerFuckingPerch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He does for United, Cahill is a liability tho. Got dominated by Balotelli and Suarez at the World Cup. I realize that Dzyoba (sp) isn't as good as either of those players but he's going to be a problem.

[–]LegalizeWater 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Come on Russia! Do us Welsh a favour!!

[–]OTownTrillaFoRilla 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Prediction: 2-1 England (Rooney, Kane)

[–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Gangs of Russian hooligans attacking England supporters

Okay BBC, I'm all for being fair but lets not absolve our cunt hooligans.

[–]cptainvimesDe Gea -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Russian sources say - there are 200 russian against few thousands english hooligans, 5-6 local fights, russians has won each, englands are running scared. Propaganda is such a propaganda.

[–]AlpacamyLlama 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who cares who wins? Let's not glamorise it

[–]bourbonactually 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only chance Millwall will ever get to play in Europe

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (13子コメント)

What do people think of Sterling and Lallana starting? As an Irishman, I couldn't care less, we have Jon 'Messi' Walters

[–]larry_b_s_zombieGolemín 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand Sterling's inclusion, although he's highly overrated. Regarding Lallana, I don't think there's a lot of choice to be honest. Either nobody else is fit or nobody else can cope with the pressure.

[–]omegaxLoLAnder Herrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sterling's been great in the preparation friendlies and fully deserves to start. Lallana's the best option for RW. Considering Rooney pretty much has to start for Roy (something I don't entirely agree with), I think this is a good lineup for this particular match, but surely England can't face one of the top teams in the tournament with a midfield 3 of Dier, Rooney and Alli. Completely unbalanced.

Vardy on the bench is obviously the main talking point here but I think, again, considering Rooney pretty much has to start every game, this 4-3-3 is better than the 4-4-2 diamond with Rooney at the tip.

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Souness ripping into Rooney on Irish tv now

[–]drivinganindievanScholesy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I switched to ESPN and surprisingly the commentary isn't terribly biased

[–]ausnick2001It 's Carrick y'knoooow 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

Don't mind Sterling as the team needs pace and if he gets off to a good start he could have a decent tournament. Lallana though...

[–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'd rather Rashford played over Lallana but I'm thoroughly biased.

[–]ausnick2001It 's Carrick y'knoooow 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well of course. And Carrick would be perfect holding the midfield.

[–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Bring back Scholes I say

[–]ausnick2001It 's Carrick y'knoooow 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

No Shaw? No problem. G Nev is still in decent shape.

[–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sure Beckham isn't too busy either.

[–]ausnick2001It 's Carrick y'knoooow 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember when he vomited on the pitch in Germany and just shook it off? That's the level of commitment we need.

[–]Rolling_TomassiShaw 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think Sterling is our best LW and on current form Lallana is best choice at RW.

[–]koba-3111 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This lineup is decent, expected line up really. Sterling has done well in the friendlies, Lallana is decent too.

[–]bourbonactually 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Fully expect Kane and Vardy to start and rightly so, but hope Rashford gets 20 or so towards the end, international experience can only be a positive for the lad. Although he seems so mature and confident already I don't know whether he needs it haha

[–]cheesehead99Martial 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Vardy is on the bench. Kane is starting on his own.

[–]bourbonactually 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah just those wankstains sterling and lallana instead, but I like 433 at least we're going down guns blazing

[–]koba-3111 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Vardy isn't starting, 4-3-3 with Sterling - Kane - Lallana. Rooney - Dier - Alli in midfield.

[–]bourbonactually 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aye just saw the teams, that's a better shape than a diamond 442 imo hope rash gets a chance as the focal point up front! He'll thrive there obvs as he had with us

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any bets? Any bets?

Have Kane to score @ 11/8 and Rooney to score @ 15/8

[–]cheesehead99Martial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really hope Rashford can get some game time.

[–]Allard1994Good one Jose, good one. 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rashford isn't a player of interest?

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Gimme a minute lol

[–]Allard1994Good one Jose, good one. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No problem mate.

[–]red_devilforeverMemphis 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

Why oh why is Lallana starting!?

[–]hardgour 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

How any Liverpool player has a starting job with the national team is crazy to me.

[–]jagajaazzistCantona 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Seems to be on the wing too. Would much prefer Rash over him.

[–]red_devilforeverMemphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think Rashford will start games, but I would have preferred Milner starting instead of Lallana.

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Might not be, I took that line up from a now deleted post

[–]red_devilforeverMemphis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is starting though.. Team just got posted.

[–]its_Shehan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is starting.

[–]red_devilforeverMemphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Phew..

[–]tamasuperstarDe Gea 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I have a bet on the Swiss, Welsh and English all winning, so I'm fully expecting us to draw.

[–]pepsimaksiYAS 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's only fair

[–]ScotsmaniaHorny 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same, stuck a tenner on the treble earlier. Thought the Welsh were going to scupper it there.

[–]itsandercontrolJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Predicting a Rooney goal and an assist.