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[Match Thread] Euro 2016: France v Romania (self.reddevils)

Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea が 投稿 - stickied post

Opening game of the European Championships 2016

Manchester United Players: Martial, Schneiderlin

Other Players of interest: Evra, Pogba

We'll try to have stickies each day for Euro 2016 games, with the main concentration and discussion being about Manchester United Players, former players and players we've been linked to or you would like to discuss signing.

If you would like to do a match thread, put one up an hour before the game. Bonus points if you're from one of the countries playing (insight and all that)

Teams

Martial & Schneiderlin not starting

France: (4-3-3) Lloris; Sagna, Koscielny, Rami, Evra; Kanté, Matuidi, Pogba; Griezmann, Payet, Giroud

Romania: (4-3-3) Tătăruşanu; Săpunaru, Grigore, Chiricheş, Raţ; Hoban, Pintilii, Stanciu; Popa, Stancu, Andone

Match Updates

France 0 - 0 Romania

4' Lloris off the line! What a start by Romania

9' Romania targeting Evra and Sagna going forward, french players not covering well. Griezman looking lively

11' Giroud should score after a nice cross from Payet

13' Pogba getting into things now, pinging the ball around nicely

14' France starting to pull the strings a lot better

15' Griezman you ass I have money on you to score ffs. Hits the post

15' No beer in the house, time to crack open some Tesco Finest Pinot Grigio

16' Matuidi looks to be the runner of the team, Kante covering and Pogba playing the Scholes role.

18' France look up for it, much harder working than they've looked in recent tournaments. Need a goal though

25' France constantly looking for the ball in behind, hasn't worked yet

28' Pogba goes for a shot when he had runners. Better movement from France

36' Giroud looking poor, not connecting with anything unless it's dropped on his toes

37' Griezmann close again! Defender gets a touch

37' They show replays on the big screen. Didn't do that when Henry double handballed did ya?!?!?!? Refuses to get over it

39' Romania denied a free kick on edge of box. France looking narrow going forward

44' Fouls galore from Romania. France improving

45' Payet not been delivering crosses too well

45' Giroud wastes another great chance. Is this what it's like watching Arsenal?

Half Time France need Martial, I need more wine, and you guys need to keep up these great discussions in the comments! See you in 15

Second Half

No changes

48' Stancu misses the chance of the game for Romania, all alone 8 yards out

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[–]amishbr07 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Giroud has cocked up 2 glorious chances so far. Why did he even start?

[–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I was Deschamps I would take Matuidi off , play Pogba deeper Payet at 10 and Martial wide left.

[–]danskzwag 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow I can't believe giroud has only completed 2 passes since kick off

[–]GGMU1992Jose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I refuse to believe that Mourinho hasnt made an approach for Kante

[–]DelTrottervan Nistelrooy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bilic gone for the old hair implants. Can't say i blame him.

[–]BjarniErlingurCarrick 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Deschamps leaves Benzema at home, benches Martial and starts Giroud. Yeah, he's clueless.

[–]PenPaperShotgun 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kante is a god

[–]danskzwag 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

People under rate Kantes ability on the ball

[–]macAaronEGiggs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would be smart to have Martial come in off of the bench, take out Giroud, move Payet to the right, and have Griezmann up top since he's already drifted there so much anyway. The central defenders have had Giroud doubled up on most every ball in the air and he's been ineffective as a target man.

[–]Skyraptor7LVG red army... 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good half performance if you are Romanian

[–]danskzwag 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Giroud needs too many chances to score and France don't create that much

[–]tocitusMemphis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both of his headers were slightly behind him but for a player of his supposed talent, he should get them on target and score one of them.

My Arsenal flatmate says they were very difficult chances though.

[–]Shaggydog__One Darren Fletcher. 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

We really should go for Kante, he is miles better than Schneiderlin.

[–]ccdewa 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bring on Martial!!!

[–]el_capi15 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Payet hasnt beaten the first man on set pieces in most of his attenpts. Its annoying considering its what he is well known for

[–]danskzwag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

One does simply not muscle kante off the ball

[–]danskzwag 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even though martial isn't a proper 9 yet he can make the runs that Giroud just can't

[–]MotecuhzomaIt doesn't even Mata 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

This match needs more Martial

[–]danskzwag 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Elite Martial lw performance needed Griezzeman needs to play centrally

[–]walterwhitec10h15n 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

This will sound very racist but can someone tell me how come so many of the French players black ?

[–]koba-3111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because France has a lot of minorities who are of African and North African origin. The country also still has oversees territories in the Carribean, Indian Ocean, and Pacific. Players such as Payet, Coman, or Martial have backgrounds from the “DOM-TOMs” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_departments_and_territories_of_France. (taken from a thread on r/soccer)

[–]StannisJrScholesy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think some of them are born in and/or have parents/family in french-speaking African countries but chose France as their national team.

[–]m_aadhilThe Special 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That pass from Pogba's left on to Evra. :0

Wow...world class!

[–]BotfeldtGiggs -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Evra has not been playing well..

[–]macAaronEGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's made unassisted tackles time after time today. He's been doing well.

[–]danskzwag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rami has been class

[–]swaggleDore 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Have I been watching too much of house md or is Griezmann like James Wilson

[–]TadomekuDe Gea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Took me way too long to realise what on earth you were talking about..

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

More like Chase to me. But that could just be the Lupus talking

[–]swaggleDore 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could be MS we need a differential

[–]scorgasmic_encounterRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

A much more handsome version though.

[–]its_Shehan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Deschamp need to bring on either Martial or Coman.

[–]HarryEP 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

DAE POGBA LEFT UNITED 4 FREE?

[–]ccdewa -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They might regret it for not bringing Benzema with them now

[–]amishbr07 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This team's lacking so much width and has a lack of players who can take the ball to defenders. Giroud has been virtually non existent save for that one chance. Greizmann should go up to with Coman or Martial coming on.

[–]aBil11Herrera 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why the fuck is giroud playing and Martial on the bench?

[–]Skyraptor7LVG red army... 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Giroud can take headers and has been scoring for the past few games for france

[–]danskzwag 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Giroud is so frustrating to watch

[–]scorgasmic_encounterRooney 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Giroud really should never have started. Griezmann is playing centrally anyway.

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Giroud has been wasteful on and off the ball. Do France have another RW to free up Griezmann?

[–]scorgasmic_encounterRooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was thinking maybe Payet moves to RW and Martial comes on.

[–]jagajaazzistCantona 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Coman

[–]Shaggydog__One Darren Fletcher. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Coman.

[–]PenPaperShotgun 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Pogba is so positive always looking forward unlike our current midfield options

[–]scorgasmic_encounterRooney 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

And it really seems he already knows what his next pass is gonna be before the ball is even at his feet. He does not stall at all.

[–]danskzwag 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being around Pirlo and Marchisio has done him wonders it's like he's hoovered up all the knowledge

[–]ccdewa 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dang Pogba looking really good here

[–]danskzwag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rabiot would have made a huge difference imo

[–]scorgasmic_encounterRooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ive never seen Evra sit this deep.

[–]danskzwag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

After all these years I'm still surprised by Evras strength

[–]danskzwag 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

How was pogba at UTD u21 level?

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

One of the most talented youth players we ever had

[–]danskzwag 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Was juve key in his development or was the talent always there?

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Talent was massive hence the big contract demands

[–]DatGuyRichJose Mourinho 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why is Di Maria playing LB for Romania?

[–]targeryianJones 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Theres a snake on the pitch? Shouldn't we be calling animal control?

[–]sonderrKeane 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

A snake AND a rat!

[–]daniam1Shaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its like a chinese calendar!

[–]koba-3111 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a phenomenal fucking ball by Pogba!

[–]scorgasmic_encounterRooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

God damn. Payet and Pogba are playing like beasts.

[–]Skyraptor7LVG red army... 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good chance that one

[–]targeryianJones 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kante is absolutely brilliant I hope Jose is watching. Blank cheque comes to mind with a player like him.

[–]ccdewa -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Based crossbar

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was it not the post? Boylesports are doing money back on lost bets if someone hits the crossbar...

[–]yamchirobeJanuzaj 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pogba is a beast

[–]BigassbirdRobson 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If France can play greater than the sum of their parts they'll piss this tournament.

[–]danskzwag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

France are so bad at creating from deep

[–]Skyraptor7LVG red army... 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

France are just passing the ball around endlessly and uselessly.

[–]macAaronEGiggs 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

How much does Payet resemble Anderson?

[–]danskzwag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both are pretty chubby aswell

[–]itsandercontrolJose Mourinho 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Insane save by Lloris.

[–]BigassbirdRobson 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Notice the lino look down the line after the event. Bit like "Ooo fuck that might have crossed the line. Best pay attention"

[–]edgydots 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there no goal line technology in place for the tournament? I thought UEFA were quite welcoming of the technology?

[–]targeryianJones 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

France are worse than us at defending set pieces...

[–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fuck me what a save. Lloris would have been a solid De Gea replacement if he left.

[–]ccdewa 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please don't talk about that...

[–]macAaronEGiggs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Romania are better at corners than we are. I really hope Mourinho fixes our set pieces.

[–]Crusty_Gammon_Flaps 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hopefully France lose unless Martial comes on and scores a few, then I'm fine with them winning.

[–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Martin Tyler and Alan Smith commentating...what is this FIFA 16?

[–]IwanJones10Please don't be true 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ITV?

[–]macAaronEGiggs 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is Geoff Shreeves on the sidelines to report injuries?

[–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Waiting for Alan Smith to tell us it was begging to be hit.

[–]macAaronEGiggs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Surprisingly, Pogba's hair isn't so bad.

[–]DelTrottervan Nistelrooy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Alright ITV, don't let me down.

Isn't the Stanciu guy meant to be good? Hope Romania spring a surprise here by making it a game.

[–]scotty1987 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stancu is pretty good.

Stanciu is good

[–]scotty1987 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I got France I the sweep at the pub. £50 in for 24 people. That could mean a nice £1200 if they win.

I think a total of 110 people put in altogether in different "groups".

The chap who sits with us got Albania. Yeah, may as well have pissed the £50 away!

[–]silkie_blondoKing Dave 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Romania?

[–]scotty1987 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

No Albania. They are in it as well.

[–]silkie_blondoKing Dave 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well yeah but I figured since you were talking about France and placing a bet that you were talking about just this game and then mentioning someone else taking a different bet they would be taking France's opponent for today.

Not fully understanding sweep... meaning they are going to win the whole thing?

[–]manutd875 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hopefully Martial can light up this tournament and have it be like the last World Cup was for James.

[–]silkie_blondoKing Dave 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

So then Real Madrid do whatever they can to sign a Galactico? /s

Seriously though I am so excited for the future of Martial that I think I care more about that than my own future.

[–]manutd875 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, with the exception of that part. I like to think Martial likes us too much to move.

[–]matarmhrqMata 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Now that it's starting, what does everyone think of the expanded Euros? Predicted upsets?

[–]scotty1987 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Northern Ireland will get out of that group. Mark my words

[–]macAaronEGiggs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

According to the hivemind of wizards at /r/soccer - England and Wales are going to breeze through their first games. It's not like they're playing pushovers.

[–]hpanandikarMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have Pogba and Griezmann in my Fantasy lineup. Go France!

[–]macAaronEGiggs 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

Maybe someone can help me here. I've seen a lot of Giroud and a lot of Martial and I believe that Martial is miles beyond Giroud on most every level. Beside Martial, Giroud looks a bit like a donkey.

Is Giroud really preferred with France?

[–]scotty1987 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because giroud is actually pretty good in the central role.

There's no way martial would displace Payet. Deschamps was a main player in him going to west ham.

[–]manutd875 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's only the obnoxious Arsenal fans that say Giroud is shit, he's a decent player.

[–]danskzwag 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's just with the amount arsenal create I think they expect more goals

[–]manutd875 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's true, but saying he's "shit" and should be sold is different from "expecting more goals".

[–]BigassbirdRobson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

True. Example just seen.

[–]Lost_And_NotFoundJones 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

France want a more target man style of striker in Giroud who also plays very well for the national team normally. Payet will also drift in field and Griezmann pushing up high so it can flick between.

Payet - Giroud - Griezmann

and

- Giroud - Griezmann -
------- Payet -----------

[–]larry_b_s_zombieGolemín 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I might be mistaken here, but I don't think Martial has scored for France yet.

[–]macAaronEGiggs 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

He hasn't. No goals in 9 appearances. I have a bit better of an idea now.

[–]FraajMartial 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

He had some amazing assists from the LW position tho.

[–]DatGuyRichJose Mourinho 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Giroud is godly for France and deserves to start

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Giroud plays centrally, Martial is competing with Payet as a LW. And Giroud is not as shit as people say

[–]macAaronEGiggs 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for answering my question. I mean, Giroud's scoring record this season is pretty good. He's sitting at about a goal every two games and has scored 4 in 4 this year for France.

I like Martial playing on the left. I think he should really develop there long-term and I'm glad Deschamps thinks so too.

[–]Slyman180Herrera -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm excited to see this attacking squad France has. They're my Golden State Warriors of football.

[–]crakshayGGMU 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Who is your Steph Curry of France?

Martial? :)

[–]Slyman180Herrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Payet. Celebrating before their long range shots go in is something both are known for :P

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Anyone have any bets going on this game/the tournament itself?

Put money on Griezmann and Giroud to score, and a cheeky fiver on Poland to win it all @50/1

[–]DatGuyRichJose Mourinho 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Giroud anytime and France to win 3-0

[–]Thank__Mr_Skeltal 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone have any bets going on this game/the tournament itself?

We have a sweepstake in work: I got France and Portugal, so I'm watching tonight with a keen eye!

[–]Obi_Wan_Kenobi_NilJose Mourinho 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

£25 on Muller top goalscorer

[–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wanna put money on Iceland too, perhaps to qualify from their group.

[–]Surfacing710Keane 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have one for France half/full time at evens and I've another one that covers all the of the first round of games for a fiver, win €700 if it comes through so it's basically a banker.

[–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any German game, Muller first goalscorer.

[–]ImperitoJuan Mata 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hopefully Martial does well. But I do want Romania to win, as any true Englishmen does.

[–]In_LibertyTearing You Apart Since 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

Hoping for Martial to come on in the second half and score a hat trick only for France to lose 4-3.

[–]hpanandikarMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you want to give everyone heart attacks right on the 1st day of the Euro?

[–]In_LibertyTearing You Apart Since 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

At least it'd be a small step towards solving our global over population problem!

[–]ImperitoJuan Mata 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, this is ideal. Maybe a hattrick but France lose something more like 7-3

[–]cristiano10sMartial 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

As a Romanian this could not be any closer to what I wish would happen today

[–]In_LibertyTearing You Apart Since 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I suspect most United fans will be pulling for your country today. Enjoy!

[–]TimmyBashSchweinsteiger 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keen to see this Pogba guy everyone has talked about. I actually have never seen a full game with him.

[–]mu_37 30ポイント31ポイント  (11子コメント)

Martial benched ffs,hope they fucking lose then.

[–]mufcirclejerk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well that's completely rational

[–]Racepace 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

On the bright side, he has less risk of injury and not as tired next season

[–]bentekefriedchickenScholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Doesn't mean he'll be benched for the whole Euros

[–]Racepace 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ya, but even if it's one game, it's still true

[–]MadaraTheUchihahttp://www.howmanypremierleaguemedalshasstevengerrardwon.com/ 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

OR Losing 1-0 Martial comes on and scores in the 88th and 93rd minute. AND TONY HAS WON IT!!

[–]mu_37 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah,let's go with that.

[–]black_squireMartial 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

Easy there. Not unreasonable to start with Payet considering his threat on set pieces as well. Plus assuming a change is needed later in the game, Martial will prove most effective against tired fullbacks with his pace and dribbling.

[–]DesOconnorScholesy -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Still don't see why Griezmann doesn't start up top with Martial on the right.

[–]black_squireMartial 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because crazy as it may sound, Giroud has been extremely productive for France and Griezmann has always played on the right. Martial is yet to look convincing anywhere but LW, why mess with that just to fit him into a team that's well stacked with quality?

[–]mu_37 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

i kinda half expected it,but aside from his free kicks(which aren't to be taken lightly),i think Martial has been much better for France tbh.

[–]black_squireMartial 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh absolutely he's better. But I'm assuming just that extra threat gives him an edge. We'll see how he performs. Surely he's not guaranteed that spot