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"ELi5: why does /u/Minn-ee-sottaa[1] despises liberals and uses the word as insult? " causes some socialism/anarchist drama in r/drama (np.reddit.com)

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[–]snotbowst 13ポイント14ポイント  (31子コメント)

Like mayjay said there, minn is a very very annoying poster. It's partially due to being a kid.

But, even though he is those things, drama is bullying and harassing him. They do that from time to time. And it's wrong.

[–]CirqueDuFuder 6ポイント7ポイント  (24子コメント)

Using that logic ALL meta subs are bully subs.

[–]mayjay15 14ポイント15ポイント  (17子コメント)

Yes, they certainly can be.

[–]CirqueDuFuder 0ポイント1ポイント  (16子コメント)

Well, no, not can, they are.

[–]mayjay15 15ポイント16ポイント  (15子コメント)

Okay, so you understand that it is bullying the kid, not "criticizing" him?

[–]CirqueDuFuder -1ポイント0ポイント  (14子コメント)

I do and don't care and I fully understand you having a different opinion on it. I don't give slack to psychos. How many people you think on this sub were concerned about bullying people from FPH and other places even when pointed out that the people involved had their own eating disorders, attempted suicide, were self harming, alcoholics, etc? They didn't give a shit because they needed their smugasm. Now we need to be gentle because the guy goes to the left?

He is batshit and I make fun of bat shit people. He has zero remorse for anything he says. There is nothing to be sympathetic about with him. He has an easy life and spends his free time taking about murder and doling out righteous fury.

[–]mayjay15 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

How many people you think on this sub were concerned about bullying people from FPH and other places even when pointed out that the people involved had their own eating disorders, attempted suicide, were self harming, alcoholics, etc? They didn't give a shit because they needed their smugasm.

Plenty, I'm sure, which is why I brought up the whole "internet criticism becomes bullying" thing.

Now we need to be gentle because the guy goes to the left?

No, because he's a kid.

He is batshit and I make fun of bat shit people. He has zero remorse for anything he says.

You seem to suffer from similar issues.

There is nothing to be sympathetic about with him. He has an easy life and spends his free time taking about murder and doling out righteous fury.

I have no idea what his life is like, but, again, you seem to be very into doling out some righteous fury via internet bullying, in this case, even recognizing that you are bullying.

I'm not saying that the kid shouldn't be criticized or mocked in any way. I'm saying the internet tends to take it too far once someone becomes a target, deserving or not.

[–]CirqueDuFuder 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

There is a massive difference in what I say. I mean I don't agree with everything you say which would be an easy guess, but I have nothing against you. That alone is qualification for you to be someone that deserves death in his book. The amount of times he says he hates white men and all liberals should be assaulted as "self defense" is insane. He considers everyone a fascist.

He deserves every last bit of ridicule. You telling me U 2 isn't going to work here although I do understand your avoiding of bullying stance.

I am not responsible for all of the internet. I am not the one spending my time on the internet wishing for the death of those that disagree. He spends the majority of his time on the internet saying violent things "ironically" but I am the one that needs to hold back?

[–]mayjay15 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nah, but you seem to not see any issue with being one of the mob shouting and waving pitchforks and torches, either.

[–]CirqueDuFuder 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Tell me what exactly I have done that is out of line to him specifically versus this collective broad guilt you are dishing out.

[–]CptNasty 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't give slack to psychos.

You mean 16 year old kids, lol.

[–]CirqueDuFuder 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

16 year old kids are fully capable of knowing what they say and do. They are not babies and know right and wrong. Using this logic this whole sub needs to be shut down because anyone of the people they make fun of could be young.

[–]GGglassEveryone else took my 'walking the mods' flair 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's just an edgy kid, I used to the whole 'eat the rich' routine at that age too. He'll grow out of it fine even if y'all aren't stalking him across reddit bullying him. Just cos he's a tankie doesn't mean he's not a person

[–]CirqueDuFuder 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

For some reason I don't see this kind of empathy when people are linked here for being racist or sexist.

I don't feel bad for calling out lying about genocide.

[–]CptNasty 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

16 year old kids are fully capable of knowing what they say and do. They are not babies and know right and wrong.

Sort of, but not to the same degree as an adult, and that's why they're considered minors. Society at large pretty much considers them children. Older, more mature than others, but still children.

Using this logic this whole sub needs to be shut down because anyone of the people they make fun of could be young.

Ok.

[–]CirqueDuFuder 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

So, this sub isn't a bully sub, right? I mean, realize where you are while you do your moralizing. I will attack the things people say as I please and I don't feel the least bit bad about it. This is especially the case when the things I'm attacking is someone wanting to murder everyone they disagree with.

[–]snotbowst 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

No. Drama loves to actively follow, stalk and user name ping people. That's harassment and bullying.

Simply looking at drama like SRD does is definitely not either of those things.

[–]CirqueDuFuder 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

HAHA. SRD is a much bigger sub and brigades the ever living shit out of threads. I am not blaming the mods because they can only do so much. Only watch? SRD tears into people almost every thread. Everyone in the thread forms a consensus on who the "bad" person is and tries their best to be more outraged over them than the last person that commented.

[–]snotbowst 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

SRD is relatively clean in regards to brigading.

And again, that's not harassment, it's not even related to what the topic at hand is

[–]CirqueDuFuder 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, no it isn't clean to brigading. Almost every time an old post is put up you see vote totals go crazy and it is easy to track. You see swings in the hundreds instantly. This is happening with all the other threads too but it is much harder to track with the rest of reddit still being active in the thread.

How the hell is having massive threads talking shit about someone not harassment? You think not pinging somehow makes it morally superior in some way? This is a bully sub as well just like every meta sub and size makes it worse across the board for all subs.

[–]xavierdc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

SRD is relatively clean in regards to brigading.

lol

[–]blertyuh -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yfw some SRDines actually believe this

[–]takesteady1234 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I mean, we on srd mock and ridicule potentially mentally ill children all the time. I don't see any reason to claim a moral high ground here

[–]snotbowst 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

It usually doesn't enter harassment levels.

Drama usually continually follows a person, and the username pings that are allowed there make it all the easier.

[–]takesteady1234 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean, I would consider hundreds of people circle jerking about how terrible some kid is to be a form of harassment, regardless of whether they are pinged or not ( which at least one person usually does)

[–]snotbowst 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

No. Talking about someone isn't harassment. Maybe calling them names is, but posting here to say "boy that sure was wacky and pointless" is no where near as bad as the edgy summoning and outright humilation drama loves to dish out.

[–]takesteady1234 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It can be. Especially if they see it. Remember, we're in a relatively public setting here

Maybe calling them names is, but posting here to say "boy that sure was wacky and pointless

Haha I don't know if you're new here or what, but the insults and mockery generally go way beyond calling their arguments 'wacky'.

[–]mayjay15 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, we do. And when I realize it's a kid or someone with a genuine mental illness, I tend feel bad and to try to back off. I agree that the sub and even I go too far sometimes. It's harder to recognize you're talking to a kid or someone with schizophrenia or something when all you have to go by is text most the time.