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Abstraction: Will the Female Psyche Reach Enlightenment or Insanity? (self.MGTOW)

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MGTOW takes a female and breaks her down to her essence (hypergamy etc.) and sees her as she is via abstraction. Here is the thing I was wondering. All of us have argued with females, and as much as they denied responsibility or admitted being wrong; in their eyes in their tone, we could see they KNEW they were in the wrong. I remember when my ex-fiancé would put on makeup...we would make eye contact and for a moment, I would see pain..the pain of someone who knows what they are doing and KNOW it's sad. She has had a heart to heart conversation where told that she put on makeup to cover up what she saw was ugliness. She soberly said that it was vanity, that it was a weakness, and that she should rise above it. She also said she chose to ignore logic and reason and chose to work on herself because it was too painful. In her words "I know you're right...but I can't live in the kind world you live in...it's too much pain, and I know it's the real world, but it's the world me and most people can't live in I'm sorry". It was a tragic but understandable philosophy.

Have you guys ever wondered what would happen to the female psyche if they were forced to deal with the truth of things regularly with no way of using manipulation, makeup to hide, etc.? What if they were put in a boot camp that broke them down specifically for that purpose would it work? What about the truth serum or psychoactive compound that disables those characteristics. Would they snap? Would they cross over into a type of enlightenment where they become a better them? Your thoughts:

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[–]User-31f64a4e 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

This would have actually been the norm in history. Do you think women on the frontier could afford to be deluded and narcissistic? Watch the youtubes by that guy whose mother is an Indian in the Brazilian jungle, and whose dad was an anthropologist. Read his descriptions of tribal life; no makeup, very harsh and very real.

It is no accident that industrialization was the antecedent of women's suffrage. What you are describing is as much civilization as it is female nature.

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Taking your though and riffing a bit, I sort of see in it a reflection of the classic nature vs nurture nonsense.

The fact is that there is human nature which changes only very slowly, and there is the environment (which is shaped by humans as a group, and which then shapes about 50% of the behavioral traits of any given human. See Turhheimer's work if you want to learn more about this.) These are for behavioral traits though - honesty, optimism, stuff like that.

Specific actions in specific situations are more complex, multifaceted and emergent in nature. Still, the basic (relatively immutable) traits will result in different actions when the overall circumstances are different. This is why people act differently in e.g. the vastly different contexts of war, disasters, and everyday life.

So I don't think women would snap or require psychoactive compounds (?!) to behave in a different manner; merely to find themselves in different circumstances.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women have no reason to change. Until men as the entire species refuse to mate with all other women on the planet then women will just get fatter and uglier and more demanding.