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[–]aidrocsid 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

File legal documents? Um, no. You make a form letter and send it in an email. Here, you can base it on mine.

[My name is/I represent] NAME, creator of CONTENT. I have identified copyrighted material, linked below, hosted on your servers and I have a good faith belief that use of the aforementioned material is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agents, or the law. This statement is accurate under penalty of perjury.

LINK

Signature w/contact info & link to proof of ownership

You're welcome. Just fill it in and send it to Bethesda. I bet you can even find a fanboy to keep track of all this for you.

They absolutely should be doing something to reduce the prevalence of this on their own, though.

[–]blacksage81 51ポイント52ポイント  (14子コメント)

It seems like he has been frustrated for sometime now, Pete Hines' comments Bethesda's terrible offering site wise, and on top of that the product of hours of his life stolen, by a completely unapologetic thief takes a toll on a person. While having an official stance on mod authors rights is a great step in the right direction, but in my opinion a step that was taken far too late. Personally as soon as they had the idea for beth.net their legal dept should have laid out modders rights so everyone would be on the same page. I can't speak for anyone else but the prospect of mods brought me to the PC. Now with Authors seemingly dropping out of modding who will remain to create mods? The Pirates? They can't even fix the mods they stole and you Console players touted them as heroes for saving them from the Evil PC master race... the same user base who create the mods for EVERYONE to enjoy. Yet the cries of entitled children emboldened people who apparently in their twisted minds thought that they were "sticking it to da Man" When in reality, all those pirate hero wannabes did was shoot the modding community in the foot.

It's possible that other modders will rise and fill the void left by departing authors but who wants to have to fill out a legal document when Bethesda, the owner of the site, and the services provided within should be actively policing that content. (Personal opinion For Pete Hines to still have a job is insulting in its own way. He is the Director of PR and Marketing, the public face of the company, he should be boots to the ground with a team to make sure that mod authors rights, and content are protected. Nope he's playing Magic... at work, in the face of a fiasco to their young platform that is Bethesda.aids. I use that term because I believe that forum is diseased, plagued by whiny children who most likely haven't the slightest idea the amount of work, dedication, and personal sacrifice to produce a mod, of any real quality.)

Thank you DDproductions83 for sharing your passion to create with the world.

[–]Arthmoor 31ポイント32ポイント  (7子コメント)

Personally as soon as they had the idea for beth.net their legal dept should have laid out modders rights so everyone would be on the same page.

They did. You know those EULAs nobody ever reads? Well...

  1. GAME MODS; OWNERSHIP AND LICENSE TO ZENIMAX

A. Ownership. As between You and ZeniMax, You are the owner of Your Game Mods and all intellectual property rights therein, subject to the licenses You grant to ZeniMax in this Agreement.

That precedes the website and everything.

[–]theonlyalterego 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's all well and good, so the mod creator uploads a mod and Beth.net says "yay you own your IP and grant ZeniMax some authority" the problem is that beth.net STOPPED THERE. It's the same problem youtube ran into after a few years when the RIAA and MPAA started to bitch at them about how to resolve copyrights. YT recognized the content was copy-protected however they had no implemented mechanism to deal with it.

beth.net needs to get off their ass and create a system to authorized legit modders. link the profile to nexus? maybe. enable a compile-time encryption linked to upload profile? maybe. Community of admins/curators? maybe. They need something. Right now it's wild wild west and people are obviously pissed that's there's no recourse, no punishment.

It's great they took that first EULA step to acknowledge the license, but it's piss for bathwater for all the good it does now.

[–]blacksage81 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

While I didn't read that particular EULA, I am aware of the ownership rights of created content. I am saying that more should have been done to prevent this problem from escalating as quickly as it did. I fully support Console mods, I am eager for the opportunity to share my creations(when I'm finished) with everyone. I just would like the experience to be as smooth as possible, and have some sort of assurance that I won't be throwing my hours of hard work to the wolves.

I've wasted enough time and concern over almost this inevitable debacle. I need to focus and get back to the CK, my bastard of a mod does not want to create itself.

[–]Gabe381 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

How about instead of blaming console users we start blaming Bethesda for not properly implementing the report system in the first place? It's not Peter Hines job to police the modding community, nor does he have the power to implement that sort of team. It's not his job. Try complaining to the right people, and maybe something will happen. Hines did nothing wrong here.

[–]Daswolfen 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

Console users need to share a large part of the blame, too. If the demand for downloading stolen mods weren't there, it wouldn't be worth the thieves time. Since every mod has people begging for it to brought over to console, it is no wonder that some mod authors (such as myself) refuse to port any of their mods over now because of it. That does not give some other asshole the right to steal it and post it as their own, nor does it give console users the right to download the pirated mod.

[–]omgubuntu 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the problem right here. We're at a four way intersection, between bethesda, mod authors, mod infringers and mod users. Everyone is waiting for the other person to move first, but nobody wants to. I think the users are the least to blame. Most of them are clueless about the whole situation and just want their NCR ranger armor or their CBBE. It's the good old "If you don't do it, someone else will". Here's the problems between the other three parties. If the mod thiefs didn't steal everything would be fine. If the mod authors would upload the mods there would be no reason to steal. And if Bethesda had a good system in place, there would be nothing to worry about. Sadly, this isn't the case.

[–]Gabe381 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not saying it's right to steal mods. I'm saying that you should not condemn the vast console player base for the actions of the 1%. The assholes who steal mods should be punished, but Bethesda isn't taking the steps to do that. On top of that, it is extremely hard to tell whether or not a mod is stolen on console due to the lack of a comments section within the mod manager. This is another mistake on behalf of Bethesda. You can not blame all console players for a few thieves. 90% don't even know that mods are being stolen. They're just downloading mods that they think that they will enjoy.

[–]aidrocsid 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which makes complete sense from your perspective. From their perspective though, it's already out there (for free even), but the platform they're using has been needlessly limited. Bethesda didn't tell console users that modding would suck ass for consoles. People made a buying decision in which there was, for a single piece of media, a significant monetary transaction made, and now they're finding out that they can't actually really get what they expected to get.

From the perspective of the needs and wants of a modder, obviously it's annoying to be bombarded by obliviously entitled demands for a console port only to find that someone has just decided to upload them themselves anyway. From the perspective of a console gamer who bought a game that Bethesda promised would have functioning mods, it's probably pretty obnoxious that they have to upload to a public server and piss everyone off just to test an ESM.

Isn't the whole point of modding and PC gaming freedom? People have an opportunity to play a customized version of the game and tailor settings to their PC. Not only can they search from all the available mods, but if they take the time to learn a thing or two they can change the parameters of the mods themselves. Because I play Fallout 4 on a PC I don't have to ask anyone or upload anything publicly to make some tweaks to mods I'm using in my own game. People who play on consoles do, and while I certainly think it's not very considerate of them to publicly re-upload mods that authors haven't put on Bethesda's thing yet, I also think it's a little insane that they have to go through this shit just to get something on their console.

There's no reason Bethesda can't have a public/private flag on uploads that would allow people to experiment with ESMs from Nexus while avoiding distributing mods without the authors permission.

Until then console users are sort of like Australians. They'll do what they can to have what they're being denied.

[–]blacksage81 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never did I ever say that it was Pete Hines' job to police the community, nor did I insinuate that it was, because it is not his job. Nor did I ever said he did anything wrong. However... He is the PR director, it is kind of his job to stand on the soap box(Twitter) and tell the community(Console AND PC users) what Bethesda is going to do about mod theft.

I placed blame where blame was due. Whiny impatient, entitled, children, and the pirates who think they are doing a service to the community; if anything they are the toxic underbelly of any community, be it gaming or otherwise. Of course there are whiny, impatient, entitled, children among PC as well, however, Nexus allows the Mod Author power to control their mod pages to provide a better user experience. Why Bethesda did not even think to look at that system and copy what works boggles the mind.

[–]DandyAlton 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

One of the worst things about all of this is that paid modding actually ran into a similar theft issue when they tried it, and what they learned from that is... nothing. There was nothing in place, whatsoever, to stop this, even though they had to know it was an issue. And once they finally scrambled to put something in place, it is completely unreasonable to expect someone to spend all their time doing just to protect their work that already takes up their time which they receive nothing for.

Goodbye to all modders who have decided enough is enough. You deserved better and I hope something comes along that can put your talents to use, for all of you, whatever it may be.

[–]lolkaepernick 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's why DDProductions83 is lying in this video: He is going to do the Nvidia mod contest, whether he quits after that or not. That means he didn't just delete his material. He copied his data folder over to another folder and then deleted the original. Most of his work is not even in that folder to begin with, either.

And no, I don't expect anyone to apologize for downvoting the truth once it shows up that he did, in fact, enter that contest in spite of magically not having any files. Or even reverse the downvote. Bye.

[–]CliffCutter 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is not a proper respose when handed a way to fully legitimize a copyright claim. Don't be like this guys, this is not how you protect your assets.

[–]RiffyDivine2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

how you protect your assets

It is a solution just not the best one. If you don't create anything there is nothing to worry about.

[–]flipdark95 30ポイント31ポイント  (28子コメント)

So.... DD's wonderfully 'mature' response to a perceived lack of action from Bethesda... is to delete his mods from his computer. Mods that they most likely have no idea about, and the loss of which will have no impact on them. This is literally a tantrum he's throwing here. And even worse? It's a tantrum that only affects him and his work. I'm fairly certain Fallout 4 plays perfectly fine without his mods.

And on top of that, he screwed up his own game install by deleting the data folder and all of the BSA2s that ship with the game.

....okay.

u/ddProductions83 If you're going to continue being such a child about this whole thing, and I don't have any hopes that you're going to suddenly stop and think for a second since you've already done a incredibly stupid thing that only affects you and you alone, I won't be making that supermutant armor for that proposed Vault-whatever-the-fuck-it-is mod.

You're a genuine idiot. I don't really try to personally attack people, but I think this situation genuinely calls for you being called out.

[–]fishfiend6656 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm fairly certain he is trolling.....actually it's dd I'm certain he is trolling

He can be childish at times but it's worth mentioning he's always been that way is anything else expected of him?
Of course if you dislike that enough not to work with him that's something i totally respect

But it's not like childish trolling behavior is anything new from him

[–]flipdark95 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

Honestly, it's always hard to tell with him. But it doesn't matter if he is or not. This is apparently his response, and it is completely ridiculous.

He's like the Keemstar of the modding community, and it boggles my mind that people actually take his perspective seriously.

[–]fishfiend6656 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do people actually take anything he says seriously?

[–]flipdark95 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some people genuinely agree with him from what I've seen.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_SENATORS 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly, it's always hard to tell with him.

He's on a win 98 computer in the video, it's a fucking troll.

[–]ChaosDuckDK 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, that's just his wallpaper.

[–]Espetado 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

He didn’t just delete is mod´s from his PC, he removed his mods completely from nexus, and I’m sure a lot of prominent modders will do exactly the same

Was it a mature reaction? Can we judge it? I don’t think we can, after all it his work he can do whit it whatever he pleases.

It’s funny that the Bethesda lawyers again not having a clue on how a system works fucked it up from everyone.

Which is funny coming from a company that doesn’t really make good games; they just make the best platforms for modders to work whit. You should really learn about your business before messing up whit it... again

[–]TaintedSquirrel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A mature person would realize deleting their mods just prevents innocent PC/console gamers from accessing the content. Removing them "in protest" doesn't really accomplish anything since it's doubtful Bethesda will even notice or care that his mods are gone.

And the sad part is, his stolen content will STILL end up on Bethnet even after he deleted them. It's a bit ironic that someone would create mods for free to allow other gamers to enjoy them for free and then get upset when they are "stolen" and put onto another platform to allow even more gamers to enjoy them for free... And the response? Remove them entirely, preventing anyone from enjoying them for free.

The last time I released a public mod was 10 years ago so maybe I'm just out of touch. I didn't realize "Copyright" was a thing modders actually cared about. I thought the whole point was to effectively open/crowd-source game content for the greater good.

[–]Bukee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh yes we can judge it!

This is something a 12 year old does when he doesn't get his way. And it os a way too common reaction in Nexus which I thought DD hated.

[–]TvojaStara 1ポイント2ポイント  (14子コメント)

All he did was deleting his xbox mods so no big deal....its not like he stopped creating mods for PC

Edit: Oh and pls tell me how is this going to backfire on him? His PC audience is big and they dont give a damn if he hates consoles or not.

[–]flipdark95 5ポイント6ポイント  (13子コメント)

He wiped his entire data folder and dumped it into the recycle bin. So not only are his mods evidently gone (if he doesn't have them backed up somewhere else), his game now won't work without redownloading the files he deleted.

And being so melodramatic and reactionary is going to backfire big time.

[–]RiffyDivine2 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

his entire data folder

Look at what all was in it. That was a build of just doing console conversion work. He is going to be DRM'ing his mods like a few others are doing with scripts.

[–]flipdark95 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

....So why even make a show of deleting all of his mods then if he has backups?

I mean, if he seriously did have all of his mods loaded inside his data folder, than they're gone for good. And that's not really going to impact anybody except for himself.

And the PC version of his mod would be in there as well. The file structures for console mods and PC mods are virtually the same. Everything is contained inside the data folder.

[–]RiffyDivine2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you've followed him you'd know this kind of thing is just how he is. All that was in that folder was the console version of it. Go watch it and again and look at it. All this video is supposed to be is a middle finger to the console users and him now going over to using the script to make the consoles dump out. He didn't even hide all his mods on the nexus and isn't going to quit modding.

[–]chaosind 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

(There was a backup folder in his Fallout 4 directory)

[–]TvojaStara -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

And being so melodramatic and reactionary is going to backfire big time.

haha no its not, do you really think he will stop modding on PC pls....

[–]flipdark95 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't care if he does or doesn't. The point is that this video he made is completely stupid.

His mods aren't that huge a loss to the modding community.

[–]PM_me_your_spacegoat 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

What an immature and childish thing to do. Does he just want Bethesda to just remove anything whenever someone tells them to, that's not how it works. The legal filing is completely reasonable.

[–]Droid85 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not a mod creator and I can't speak for them, but they probably just want at the very least to have a beth employee acknowledge that they are aware of the problem and looking into a solution.

[–]PM_me_your_spacegoat -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get what your saying but I am a mod author, and although my mods are small and I have not run into problems with theft, I've looked into this, there are things being done currently, it's just flawed.

This is the beginning of something that has never been done before, there were always going to be problems.

[–]pewpewlasors 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

This video sounds like it was made by an edgy 13 year old. Also, no one says "l8ur" or whatever the fuck. Leave out the ridiculous music if you want people to take you seriously.

[–]Soulburnin 24ポイント25ポイント  (9子コメント)

Mods never should have come to consoles.

[–]Bukee 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

How are the two connected?

This whole drama sounds retatded and it's only about finding scapegoats

[–]Arbiter329 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, bethnet is the problem not consoles.

[–]RiffyDivine2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are kind of intertwined.

[–]DallasIsRokkoS 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You haven't checked any of the top posts have you?

[–]Bukee -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's exactly what I was doing and they pissed me off

[–]Ragequitr2 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm willing to be downvoted with you, but you're right. But only in this circumstance, only under Bethesda. Had any other developer taken the time to incorporate mods better, treat mod authors with respect (Hell, maybe even a small cut of money from ads on whatever website they have), and were vigilant in stopping mod stealers, I would be fine. But the way Bethesda handled this was atrocious. I wish the console players could've been introduced to mods better.

[–]swedishplayer97 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Too bad almost no other gaming company supports modding as extensively as Bethesda.

[–]Daswolfen -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

So true. As soon as I saw the website, I knew it was going to be a train wreck. There were better forum setups 10 years ago. And the lack of any sort of verification was just a shit-storm waiting to happen.

[–]tacitus59 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry this mess has gone this far.

On a different note despite the somewhat colorful nature I have really enjoyed the GetToKnowYourModAuthor youtube series and its has really improved my knowledge on mods.

[–]Phazon2000 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah the first episode where Elianora calls out console user's as "peasants" was dope /s

[–]Ggerino 7ポイント8ポイント  (21子コメント)

Really hope he doesn't quit all together, He's my favourite mod author (tied with Eli) Love his work.. Can you just make your mods PC only? I know the console users have fucked you over, But you have a loyal PC fan base who will stand by you.

[–]Quajek 24ポイント25ポイント  (14子コメント)

"The console users" haven't fucked anyone over. It's like 10 people who have been stealing shit, not the entire console community.

The VAST majority of console gamers are people like myself who are just trying out a few of the "MOST POPULAR THIS WEEK" mods on our Xbox for a couple hours on the weekend, not sinister mod thieves, trying to take credit for other people's work.

I wouldn't have the first clue HOW to steal a mod and upload it for console users, so don't lump me in with the VERY FEW thieves who have been driving everyone fucking crazy for the past few days.

[–]Ggerino 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

10 people? Oh please. It's more than that and you know it, I understand not all of the console users are like this & I know the vast majority are great people who follow the rules, But the few people who are stealing mods really are 'Fucking over' The mod creators.

[–]MiniCorgi 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

If you go through who stole what mods, it's really small. People think that because, say 20 mods, were stolen, that 20 people stole them. One of the slimy thieves had around 10 stolen mods on his profile. That's one person who stole 10 mods, not 10 people who stole 10 mods. I saw another guy had three mods himself.

The number of people stealing is very small. It's just that they are each stealing several mods per person.

[–]largePenisLover 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

if the comments on the stolen mods were any indication I would say at least 50% of xbox players on beth.net are fucking thieves considering the pages upon pages of console users praising the thieves.

[–]QuietusPlus 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't think he would quit, he's much too stubborn for that. I think he would rather make it as difficult as possible for the thieves.

[–]RiffyDivine2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which is what is going on right now. He isn't the only modder to be looking into a script to fix the issue and the one I threw together last night seems to be working. It pretty much checks if it's running on a console and dumps the console out a few times it did hard lock the xb1 but that may have been a fluke.

[–]Droid85 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same here, I was really looking forward to seeing the completed version of his new all-in-one.

[–]ThexThird 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

hey /u/ddproductions83/ which is it

[–]Phazon2000 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I believe he has mentioned in one of his youtube comments that he has been banned from r/FalloutMods.

[–]RiffyDivine2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was at one point or maybe it was /r/fallout. Not sure if that ban was lifted or not.

[–]Charizarlslie 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

This guy is a grade-A asshole... It was obvious prior to this whole scandal and he just continues to prove it to everyone.

[–]TvojaStara -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apply some water to the burned area

[–]lintpowers 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I just wish the mod war would just end. None the sides really understand each other. *sigh

[–]Bukee 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What sides there are no sides, there is not even a reason for all this.

[–]TvojaStara -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

yeah good idea just remove mods from consoles, problem solved

[–]eric5949 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"there's a small cut on my finger, it hurts."

"Just cut off the entire arm, problem solved."

That's how you sound right now.

[–]A_Moldy_Stump 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

Bye felicia. That guy seems as toxic to the community as the thiefs. I wouldnt download his mods anyways if he's gonna be a bitch about it "test for entitled cunts" get over yourself

[–]TheRealChesko 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Tell me about it. This smells exactly like that guy who claimed nobody else will ever mod as well as he does, when all he did was import someone else's models into the game, who then came running back once he realized there was no one to feed his attention-seeking ego anymore.

[–]RiffyDivine2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So are you Chesko two or three at this point?

[–]Taswelltoo 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The epic music underscoring him deleting his files (entitled cunts, really?) just shows what this guy thinks of himself. He could've just deleted his mods and exited the scene, but instead he does this.

I disagree with people taking modders work and certainly think Bethesda could've worked harder to prevent this sort of thing from happening, but I genuinely can't help but feel some good came out of this if this guy just goes away for good.

[–]RiffyDivine2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

exited the scene

He only deleted his console mod work in progress. Since the quit on console script works it's like he will just use it in his all in one mod from now on the nexus.

[–]mechanicalgod 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did... did he just use copyrighted music in a video complaining about copyright abuses?

[–]sesom07 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a Dramaqueen.

The problem is real and yes I fight a lot against the nonsens that is going on. But such actions as this are contraproductive.

Bye, bye DD you aren't missed.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_SENATORS 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nobody going to mention he's using windows 98?

[–]mechanicalgod 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Based on the deletion progress box it looks like win 10 (or maybe 8) just with win 98 (ish) background and icons.

I'd be amazed if Fallout 4 and Steam etc support win 98.

[–]TvojaStara 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

that's what you need to test mods for the "next gen" consoles.

[–]ichigo350z 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He generated a Virtual desktop for the purpose of the video. Does anyone really think he works on a 1024x768 solid color desktop?

This situation is getting out of hand. I hope Bethesda realizes that if they want their games to benefit from user created mods, they need to do more to protect the people who create them. Daren is right and I dont blame him for hiding his content.

[–]Drewcifer419 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Mod theft and you; you entitled cunt" https://youtu.be/ZJVlZJcqAzk

Real mature Cartman. Go stuff your face with some Cheesy-Poofs.

[–]TropicSunder -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well... I wasn't picturing this being the nature of his departure. But no matter, with him gone, your community has a better chance at healing the rift. Please don't squander the opportunity.

[–]Madenmann -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

DD, i like you and i like your mods. But you're throwing a tantrum here. You can do better.

[–]gregariousfortune -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

He knows that a large group of people in the world don't have access to clean drinking water right?

[–]swedishplayer97 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

How mature of him.

[–]InhaleMC -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is fucking stupid and childish. Okay, your mods were stolen. The PR of Bethesda tweets out stuff and you call him an asshole? If it wasn't for bethesda making games in the first place you wouldn't have any recognition. This doesn't help at all with the whole modding situation. Deleting stuff doesn't help anything but your storage

[–]RiffyDivine2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He only deleted his console conversion stuff. The all in one pack is hidden on the nexus till they get that quit on console script finished.

[–]thegreatvortigaunt -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good riddance, idiot. You will not be missed.

Your mods were shite anyway.