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Campus rapist given lenient sentence to avoid "severe impact on him". I think it's important that we every once and a while recognize the scum and bullshit coming from the other side. (boingboing.net)

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[–]explicitlarynx 102ポイント103ポイント  (11子コメント)

I find this horrible. There are innocent men being punished for nothing and this guilty piece of shit walks free gets a far too lenient punishment. Damn!

[–]omegaphallic 17ポイント18ポイント  (9子コメント)

He got 6 months, that not walking away free, that will still be horrible, but its too low given the severity of the crime.

[–]Succintus 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

Here in Canada, sexualt assault like this would likely be Summary sexual assault, with a max of 18 months in jail, if there was no actual coitus.

[–]HangryHipppo 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's fucked up honestly. Too little.

[–]Succintus 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well, there is also regular sexual assault (10 yrs) and aggravated sexual assault (25yrs) but without actual sex and without physical damage or a weapon, not many judges would use those charges.

[–]HangryHipppo 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

One could argue fingering is a sexual action. Would they consider oral sex not sexual as well?

If he actually penetrated her with something like a random object, that could considered aggravated sexual assault, no?

[–]Succintus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The charge is determined by what the Crown Prosecutor might actually see stick and what kind of evidence they have available to work with. About 90% of all charges laid in Canada for this type of event are the Summary variety, because it's typically he said/she said, or there's little to no physical evidence. I don't see any aspect of this case that would make it extraordinary and move it up the chain.

[–]JebberJabber 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read that prosecutors decided not to go for rape because they worried it might inhibit jurors from making a conviction.

[–]sugar_free_haribo 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Seems like all he's been convicted of is drunkenly flicking some girl's bean while she was passed out. Even if all the facts are against him (she didn't previously consent, etc), I can't see how anyone could endorse a 10+ year prison sentence...

[–]prettymississippi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh fuck you for trying to reduce sexual assault to "drunkenly flicking some girl's bean". Fuuuuuck yoooooou.

[–]JebberJabber 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Victim Impact Statement below has gone viral (despite the huge handicap of being 13 typed pages long) because it describes so vividly what is wrong with sexual assault / rape.

It should be mandatory reading in high schools, I think there would be a lot less rapes and "drunken misunderstandings" if men understood what is at stake.

The maximum sentence for what he was charged with was six years. The probation report asked for six months. The victim says the probation report was based on a 15 minute interview which was mostly filled with her questions about process, i.e. the probation officer did not understand the case.

VIS in HTML on Buzzfeed

VIS in PDF on SCCgov

[–]bakedpotato486 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

On top of that, I saw a reference to this article on /r/BlackPeopleTwitter calling it white privilege... It was in the top ten of /r/all!

[–]civilsaint 93ポイント94ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's a disgrace that the judge chose this case to show leniency in this case, and not some case where guilt was questionable.

[–]ThirdTurnip 42ポイント43ポイント  (5子コメント)

Take Stanford out of this equation and he probably would have gotten a more appropriate sentence.

This wasn't just a case of an accusation and one person's word against another. He was caught in the act in public on campus at a premier university. A lighter sentence it gives the appearance that the crime wasn't so bad and that's less damaging to Stanford's reputation.

[–]Bonesteel50 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is the BS feminists are bitching about. They're not wrong all the time, just a lot of the time.

[–]baskandpurr 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

The problem is class, not gender or race. But feminists won't try to deal with that because it's about getting advantage on people who are roughly equal in the pile. Plus, they need men at the top of the pile for hypergamy.

[–]_Kannon 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being rich gives you leniency in court
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Rich boy gets leniency because hes rich
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Wealth ignored, false claims of male privilege by the media
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Rich people deflect blame to men

[–]nevheatley3 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This!

[–]richbordoni 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly.

[–]Karma9999 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

To avoid severe impact, don't rape unconscious women! or any for that matter. Smacks of affluenza.

[–]ImNotIntoPokemon 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Putting aside Men's Rights and Feminism for a moment, I feel as though the real problem in this case is that he comes from money. Stick a lower-income guy with an ill-fitting rental suit, no college education, no impressive athletic background, and a public defender and watch the judge give him the maximum sentence, or more likely watch him accept a plea deal and get a moderate sentence and no trial because his overworked public defender wants to reduce their caseload.

Wealth giving you a pass to do things impossible for middle or lower income people, including legal things like "Go to college" and "Hire a good lawyer" is a problem that ignores gender. Money should not buy you things like this.

[–]ZorbaTHut 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, when I saw this, my only question was whether he was rich or an athlete. Turns out he's both!

[–]outhouse_steakhouse -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly! 99.999… (recurring)% of so-called "male privilege" is really wealth privilege.

[–]duganaok 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is outrageous. An actually rapist gets a pass but all the young men where no evidence was presence gets their lives ruined?

[–]enjoycarrots 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I marveled at this headline yesterday because it's one of the only times I've ever seen a headline like this where the convicted was male.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a grave injustice when male rapists are treated like female rapists.

[–]thrway_1000 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

[Archive of Article Here.]

 

Please think of archiving links to sites that are known to have biased and/or negative representations of men, masculinity, and men's rights -- i.e. The Guardian, Slate, The Telegraph, The Independent, Cracked, BuzzFeed, Vox, Vice, Bustle, Medium, Mic, Huffington Post, Salon, Think Progress, Raw Story, and so on. Or to articles and/or sources that may be controversial, which may be altered and/or removed because of our current culture of censorship. https://archive.is/

[–]RobDog101 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck this guy. The penal system really is wrongheaded, breeds nothing but trauma and more crime—but of all the people to decide to spare, this fucking creep?

[–]squirtingispeeing 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

I really think this letter demonstrated why there actually aren't rampant false rape accusations and why so few women bring charges against their assailant - the amount of scrutiny you're under after going through something horrific already would be unbearable unless you're an exceptionally strong person.

The trial, in her words, "forced me to relive the hurt as details about my personal life and sexual assault were brutally dissected before the public. He pushed me and my family through a year of inexplicable, unnecessary suffering, and should face the consequences of challenging his crime, of putting my pain into question, of making us wait so long for justice."

And in the end, he only got six months in jail.

Why would a survivor ever want to press charges? Go through that hell to have the judge take pity on your rapist?

[–]Celda 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really think this letter demonstrated why there actually aren't rampant false rape accusations and why so few women bring charges against their assailant - the amount of scrutiny you're under after going through something horrific already would be unbearable unless you're an exceptionally strong person.

You're not thinking about what you're saying. There are so many things that you said that are simply wrong.

Someone who makes a false rape claim isn't going through something horrific. They weren't raped.

Also, it ignores the fact that women can and do make false rape claims for the most trivial and minor reasons. For instance, a group of four women who made a false rape claim against a cab driver because they didn't want to pay the fare. Not even just one person that you could say is mentally unhinged, but a group of four women.

Third, it ignores the fact that rape claims - whether true or false - do not all result in extreme scrutiny. For example, rape claims made to universities are often treated with extreme bias in favour of the accuser, as we've seen no shortage of examples posted in this subreddit. Even claims made to police can simply be withdrawn later (whether they were true or false), but the alleged rapist would already be arrested and harmed as a result.

Why would a survivor ever want to press charges? Go through that hell to have the judge take pity on your rapist?

Do you suppose that six months is a typical sentence for rape?

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/may/26/rape-sentence-average-eight-years-justice-figures

The average sentence for rape is now more than eight years – longer than the average prison term for manslaughter, according to Ministry of Justice figures published on Thursday.

That was UK.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/PSATSFV.PDF

Average sentence for rape = 117 months.

[–]Larry-Man 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think honestly the legitimate complaints fall by the wayside way before trial. I was talked out of going to trial by a police officer. Then the dude tried to pick up what he thought was a 13 year old girl using Whisper about 4 years later (we are both currently 28) but it was actually some dude with a camera. I called to remind them I had this statement on file that he had raped me because I found out about his chat with a 13 y/o via fucking facebook (the video in town was shared by many concerned friends).

I wanted to vomit.

I wanted to stop him but I can't look at him. Seeing his face had me have a breakdown while waiting for an oil change for christ's sake.

Seeing and facing him on trial with no evidence save for one or two chat logs on facebook (we had been dating at the time), the thought of that has me fucking paralyzed. A sentence like this scares me even more.

I should have pressed the issue, even to lose. I don't care.

And Jesus Christ pressing charges as a man has got to be even worse.

[–]squirtingispeeing 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

A friend of mine went through the same thing. Was raped and the police pressured her to not press charges. It's horrible and I'm so sorry this happened to you.

[–]Tedesche 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The hellishness of being subject to a lawyer's questions—mind you, it was the defense attorney asking all those questions, not the police—would certainly put many people off, but that in no way means false accusations don't occur. For one, false accusers typically haven't been raped ever, and thus have little opportunity to learn the level of scrutiny their story will be subject to. Secondly, plenty of them falsely accuse just to drop the charges later, after the damage to the guy's reputation has been done, but before anyone can figure out it was a lie. Finally, plenty of false accusations never involve criminal charges, and instead aim solely to get a conviction in the court of public opinion.

Rape is a nightmare of an experience, but that doesn't stop women who haven't gone through it from failing to appreciate the gravity of what they're pretending to suffer from and exacting petty revenge for selfish reasons. I don't see why you take the experiences of real rape survivors and assume all women empathize with them enough that they would refrain from making a false accusation out of respect for their fellow women who have been raped. That seems rather presumptuous.

[–]NUMBERS2357 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think many false rape accusations are things like:

  • made in haste or panic, without thinking through the consequences

  • made in some non-criminal context, like in a divorce (where lawyers encourage abuse allegations as a way to gain an upper hand) or on college campuses, where there's a lot less of the stuff she mentioned

  • prosecuted in a situation where the accuser would rather not go through with it for the reasons you mention, but once the ball's rolling it's out of her hands

  • not a lie, but rather mistaken identity or something

  • or even false but sincerely believed (like "I was drunk and my memory is spotty, but there's no way I would have consented in that situation")

[–]derpylord143 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gotta disagree, I did a piece of work for my uni course recently, and i had to look at many different sources related to false rape accusations, at the start of it, i reviewed some studies on their prevalence, it seems that about 8-12% are false, with studies concluding between 2-3% being completely unsubstantiated and based on a study that "someone recalled" in a press conference. most studies saying above 25% are incredibly unreliable, so when i wieghed up all the reliable data, the studies do suggest its about 10% based on that, there is a serious issue, if one in 10 accusations are false. if there are 900 accusations a year (probably high) thats 90 men whos lives are destroyed by mere accusation, and thats based on what the police say is false in reports based on what they view as malicious etc., and therefore doesnt factor in what isnt determined to be false because the police believed them, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if it was 15%+

[–]Runningflame570 6ポイント7ポイント  (19子コメント)

I can understand the outrage, but I don't know that the sentence is necessarily wrong either.

The judge deemed him not to be an ongoing threat to the community and he remains on the sex offenders list for life regardless. The judge was evidently convinced that he was also severely intoxicated and wouldn't be liable to re-offend.

As long as he's on the registry his life is still over in a lot of ways.

[–]Mens-Advocate 4ポイント5ポイント  (18子コメント)

I agree with RunningFlame. He did not rape her. Relying on ostensible earlier verbal consent, He apparently fingered and dry-humped her while himself too drunk to necessarily realise her passed out. Under those circumstances, his sentence (which includes gaol and lifetime registration) is not too lenient and might well be too severe. Further, I see no absolute proof he knew her passed out, nor absolute disproof of ostensible earlier consent. Under those circumstances, his guilt is not beyond a reasonable doubt.

[–]Vandechoz 6ポイント7ポイント  (15子コメント)

The jury found him guilty. So you sentence based on that, not on whether or not you as a judge personally think he's guilty.

[–]Mens-Advocate 12ポイント13ポイント  (14子コメント)

Baloney. Sentencing is explicitly charged with the task of weighing both mitigating and aggravating circumstances; otherwise, sentencing could be done by computer.

[–]Vandechoz 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

you were just talking about guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, not mitigating circumstances

and the guilt was already decided

[–]Mens-Advocate 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

you were just talking about guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, not mitigating circumstances

I've been talking about both. Learn to read.

and the guilt was already decided

???? Courts aren't infallible; they've burnt human beings in auto-da-fé and executed for witchcraft.

[–]Vandechoz 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't just mix-and-match shit like that. Reasonable doubt determines guilt, "mitigating factors" help determine sentencing for that guilt. They are separate. I'm not saying courts are infallible, I'm saying that as a judge, you don't just make up things as you go; you treat a guilty verdict as a guilty verdict.

[–]Yourepatheticlydumb 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

You're right dude. The pine needles and dirt that ended up in her vagina are just proof that she consents right?

Fuck

[–]prettymississippi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it doesn't sound like he put his penis inside her (doubtlessly not from a lack of trying), but I hardly think that makes what he did any less disgusting or severe. It's not like assault only counts the moment a penis enters a vagina. And where is the earlier verbal consent? If he had verbal consent do you really think he'd run away out of clear and obvious guilt when he was caught? And even if he had earlier consent, that goes away when someone is fucking unconscious. Him being too drunk to realize that (which I doubt, but let's pretend) doesn't mean anything. What if he was driving drunk and killed somebody, would you say it wasn't his fault because he was too drunk to "necessarily realize he was driving"? Okay.

I'd love to see the shit you'd say if the situation was reversed. What if it was a woman sucking the dick of a passed out man trying to get him hard? But he gave her a back rub earlier, so that means she has the right to try and fuck him while he's passed out, of course. Of course. What he was doing was so fucked up that the men who found him knew immediately and one of them was in tears because of what he'd seen.

[–]nevheatley3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can dig what you're saying, but I believe, as stated above, that his class status came in to full play here towards the sentencing.

[–]ABC_Florida 2ポイント3ポイント  (18子コメント)

Dear /u/Normal-ish!

My opinion is that you are welcome by me to discuss and argue on this topic anything you like. This topic has been covered her at least once. Judge it yourself what the opinion of the majority of users is. I think the majority of users agrees with me that the sentence is a joke for having sex with an unconscious woman. Read rape. Maybe he comes from money, or the family has good connections, IDK. Anyway that is not a sentence which is on par with the crime. And the reasoning that "prison would have sever impact on him" is both enraging and bullshit.

For those jumping at my throat, he was found by Vikings humping an unconscious woman! So get informed, and come back later!

If you are interested, and have the time, you can see that this thread is full of posts where female teachers got away with statutory rape with similar reasons. Most users disagree with them too. Like they do with this one, if they are informed about the subject. I think it is a case where a man faces a lenient sentence, we usually hear given to women. And I personally disagree with both.

Hope you were posting this to get honest opinion of a group. Anyways, have a nice day!

[–]Normal-ish[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (16子コメント)

I wanted to see how others felt about this, and definitely wanted to remind us all that the bullshit goes both ways

[–]ABC_Florida 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah. It is indeed a lenient sentencing. And this man fell under a ludicrous double standard.

These cases are probably more enraging to the public, because it is clear that the defendant is guilty and gets away easy. Hope the Guardian's idea to close prisons won't be implemented in practice.

If you are interested in other peculiar cases, 4 days ago a BuzzFeed publicized a woman who was (very likely) falsely accused of rape by a man. She was expelled, and as usual can't be accepted to another university. IIRC no police was involved, not to complicate a rape case with them. Kangaroo courts do just fine. First post, and the second post.

[–]andejoh 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

True, but you're leaving out that she admitted to making a false accusation of rape against the male student in "retaliation". She should have been expelled for that if not for the rape so I don't really see an injustice there.

[–]ABC_Florida -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yes. But she should have been not expelled for the counter rap claim. Have you heard a case where the false accuser was expelled?

[–]andejoh 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

No I never heard of a case where the false accuser was expelled. I still assert that the false accuser should be expelled. How is it not a Title IX violation? How does it not interfere with a student's ability to get an education or enjoy the benefits of being a student? Whether it has happened before or not isn't relevant. What is relevant is whether it should happen.

[–]ABC_Florida 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

What I mean is, that people should be expelled after police concluded that rape happened. If, like in this case, (IMO) both made up a rape case, it is a tricky one. Probably both should be expelled, because two wrongs do not make a right.

But obviously kicking anyone out without a real reason is more important, than punishing false accusation. Assuming not women get it worse!

[–]andejoh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyway, I agree that if he made a false rape claim against her, he should be expelled also; however, I'm not sure that's true.

It was apparently a resident adviser that made the claim not

the male student based on third party statements the adviser overheard. Granted that's a messed up situation and schools shouldn't be allowed to bring action against a student based on essentially 4rth party statements, but you can't blame the male student for something he did not do.

I don't know what the male student told them. We've seen cases where the a student asserts they were not raped, but the school expels the accused student anyway. If his statements

were truthful to the best of his knowledge, he can't be held responsible for the conclusions that the school drew from them.

ie if he says I don't remember (which is apparently what happened) and either he doesn't remember or the school can't prove that he does, he can't be held responsible for the school assuming that his memory loss was do to the fact that he was drunk.

It may be another issue that the school uses the more intoxicated standard rather than incapacitated, but again you can't blame the male student for that.

[–]chocoboat 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It absolutely goes both ways. There is plenty of sexism against women, and plenty of it against men.

I just want society to acknowledge that there's unfair treatment on both sides, instead of pretending that half of it doesn't exist.

[–]Stripes1974 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yes, unfortunately it does.

Now, go point this out to feminists- that victimization (due to rape, sexual assault, and domestic violence) goes both ways, too. See how much tolerance and willingness to discuss the matter you get from them-- because I dare say, we are a great deal more understanding than many of them seem like they will ever be.

[–]ABC_Florida 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you (unlike me) are not banned from TwoXC, you can try to post it, and see how long it stays. My best guess is, that it will be shadowbanned the moment you post it.

[–]Stripes1974 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not interested in tilting at windmills.

That's for "Normal-ish"-- they are the ones who wanted to "emind us all that the bullshit goes both ways"-- if they want to be so kind and informative, let them try to convince the "so-called" feminists that bullshit (and victimization) goes both ways. I dare say they won't get anywhere near the warm welcome they've gotten here, from them.

[–]ABC_Florida 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was banned from TwoXC because I read an article titled:

3 Ways Men Wanting to ‘Focus On Her Pleasure’ During Sex Can Still Be Sexist

I wanted to find out how many women agrees with that brainfart. First it was removed for using archive.is, after correcting the link it was shadowbanned. Later I posted a DailyMail article about a pupil who made up a rape case, so she can resit her exam. The article was written by a woman, and it was totally unbiased. It did not excuse her claiming mental issues, or the push to perform in school. It was totally factual. So I wanted to express my appreciation towards women, and prove to the mods that I do not generalize women after my post about focusing on her pleasure can be sexist. Result? All my submissions were labelled as troll post, to prove that I'm a troll there was a comment of mine from PPD, where I said, that the pupil's history with false claim, will hinder her in a prison, since no prison guard will believe her. Here is the screenshot taken by the mod as an explanation for my ban.

So marvelous moderators there. /r/AskWomen isn't much better, if it is at all. My comment was even removed, if I've found a girl with common interest. It was removed for derailing.

[–]Stripes1974 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not surprised by that.

In this time of what I call "hyper-feminism", especially by what I call "so-called" feminists, just about anything said by a male that does not blame males for all the ills of the world will be banned in any of the female-oriented subreddits. There will be all manners of reasons why this will happen- men are either "lying" or "triggering" or "mansplaining" or "invading our safe space" or "victim-blaming" or some combination of the above. The "so-called" feminists don't want to communicate, converse, debate, deliberate, discuss, examine, exchange, hash out, interact, speculate, talk, or in any other way come to the table with anyone who has an opinion or thought or idea that they disagree with, in order to educate, inform, or otherwise find a solution of any kind to the situations that society needs to address.
Instead, they simply want to point fingers, lay blame, talk about how superior they are and how much they're hated on, and then sit back and complain about how no one likes them, no one understands them, make demands about how others are responsible for things and then claim that they're being subjugated and oppressed.....

I could go on, but I've made my point.
Again- not interested in tilting at windmills...

[–]ABC_Florida 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In my experience the majority of 2XC are quite reasonable people. And the mods do not represent the attitude of the average user.

AskWomen or Feminism subreddits fit your description way better. IMO.

[–]lasciate -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

This case is run-of-the-mill judicial incompetence. Unlike the cases where female rapists get blanket, default leniency gender likely has nothing to do with this.

[–]Zeus1325 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes, its a man goven a lenient sentence. but two wrongs dont make a right.

[–]omegaphallic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand the appeal of getting this drunk, two ruined lives.

[–]atheist4thecause -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

So the mods allow this kind of stuff but we can't talk about Emma Watson and the Panama Papers. Hmmm...quite interesting indeed.

[–]Twatbag 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

A hot 24 year old teacher fucks a 16 year old boy and the response is "she didn't have sex with him, SHE RAPED HIM."

We have a clear case of rape here and the responses come across as defensive. This prick raped a girl while she was passed out. The issue, and only issue, is that he was given leniency because it would have a "severe impact on him."

[–]Succintus 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Defensive? Most of the posts here are talking about how the sentence was too lenient.

[–]Twatbag 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Read the rest of the posts, and get back to me. I'm obviously not talking about people who have common sense.

[–]--Visionary-- 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

A hot 24 year old teacher fucks a 16 year old boy and the response is "she didn't have sex with him, SHE RAPED HIM."

I tried going to reddit feminism, and other feminist themed subs to find that response, but didn't see that post on the hot 24 year old teacher fucking a 16 year old boy concluding that. Mind pointing it out to us?

Unless those ideologies get a free pass to not even acknowledge the above, but MRA's NEED to have EVERY SINGLE PERSON agree in concert condemnation when a male rapist gets a lenient sentence. Which is sort of the state of gender affairs right now.

[–]Twatbag -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

You don't have to go to a feminism subreddit. You find that here.

[–]--Visionary-- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My point is simply that they don't even ACKNOWLEDGE the woman raping the boy and seem to get a free pass.

Meanwhile, if EVERY commenter isn't in lockstep condemnation of these a male rapist who gets a lenient sentence for MRAs, then it's requisite to whine about it.

[–]omegaphallic -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My Dad actually punched a cop while drunk once. He got away with it, because the cops partner thought he deserved it.

Drunks are morons.

[–]factsangeryou -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

When "the other side" starts doing this instead of pretending what you posted is the rule rather than the rare exception, then posts like this will have merit. This has no place in this sub.

[–]Normal-ish[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This post isn't about those people. It's about reminding us all that equal rights is a two way street. All of our brothers and sisters deserve equality. It is my opinion that if we don't recognize the injustices that both sides face, then we are no better than the SJWs that only care about themselves.

[–]omegaphallic -5ポイント-4ポイント  (2子コメント)

The claw hammer thing is over compentsating.

Raping her behind a dumpster is pretty fucked up, but I will double check to see if I had the facts straight.

[–]liquid_j 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The claw hammer thing is over compentsating.

me likey hyperbole... though from what I've read the dude seems pretty fucking evil.

edit: the copy paste gods are laughing at me

[–]Deansdale -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The media omits facts on purpose in this case, like that he met the woman at a party and they left together to have consensual, albeit drunken, sex. The woman passed out during the act which he probably didn't even notice because he was drunk as well. But of course people are too lazy and/or too stupid to search for the facts when it's a lot more fun to just organize a pitchfork mob.

[–]Symos404 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's important when you have all the facts to punish the guilty. Here was a clear cut case and the judge gave feminists exactly what they wanted, something to point to as rape culture.

[–]Rethgil -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What you mean like the woman who got off with practically nothing for sexually abusing a one year old baby? If you prefer to focus on rare instances where men can be accused and blamed in a rare forum that is meant to focus on men's issues, then go right ahead.

[–]Normal-ish[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is exactly the rhetoric the SJWs push when we mention men's rights. It's attitudes like this that keep us at war with each other. Set an example, recognize both sides. Otherwise, we'll never make any progress.

[–]Rethgil -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Are you trying to "crush a pussy bro?' White Knights have the most obvious uniforms.

[–]Normal-ish[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have no idea what you mean

[–]TheDude41 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This sentence is ridiculous.

  • assault with intent to commit rape of an intoxicated/unconscious person
  • penetration of an intoxicated person
  • penetration of an unconscious person.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3623891/Star-Stanford-swimmer-serve-just-six-months-prison-raping-unconscious-woman.html

I assume the penetration part he was convicted of was with his fingers (not penis). If the jury found him guilty of those crimes, there is no reason for the judge to attenuate his sentencing.

[–]KamiNekoSama -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, but i would also love to see the other side do it as well.

[–]CapitalJusticeWarior -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

sexually penetrating an intoxicated and unconscious person with a foreign object

What did he do? Put something in her mouth?