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[–]LazoriusClassy Gray I5-4690K-4.45Ghz|2x4GB|Asus GTX 660(x2)|BX200 240GB 169ポイント170ポイント  (28子コメント)

Give a peasant the ability to mod, And he will kill the game, Give a PC gamer the ability to mod and he will make the game bigger.

[–]ArcherGodi7 3510u - GTX 760: 8GB RAM 81ポイント82ポイント  (16子コメント)

The primary (and possibly only) reason why console's top mods are cheat mods is because they don't have access to the console. If they did, it would be a different story.

[–]ArtessFor the future of gaming. 51ポイント52ポイント  (4子コメント)

The thing is that they always complain that PC is full of cheaters (through mods or otherwise), yet it turns out console players are very keen to have themselves some cheats.

[–]TheForgeMasteri5 4690k | 8GB DDR3 | GTX 770 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

Oh no you should see the local gaming swap page on facebool where I live. This guy was downgrading and hacking PS3s for 120$ each. He also has a "totally legit" wii with over 1200+ games and movies on it for 50$. I used to think PC was bad about Piracy, at least pirates aren't trying to resale what they stole.

[–]Asianat0ri7 4790k 4.6GHz GTX970 OC 1530MHz/7.8GHz 16GB RAM 128GB SSD 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because that one guy represents the 200+ million owners of those consoles

[–]ConkerBirdyi7 4790K | GTX 780 Ti 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno, I had more pirated games on PS1 and Xbox 360 than all of my PC games at one stage.

[–]Archsys 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Counterpoint, perhaps; the device to downgrade a PS3 runs 60+ bucks, and a Wii with controllers probably costs about $50 or so (esp. if he's including an external HDD or similar).

There is a pretty big difference between piracy (stealing games, pulling CR info, and reselling under your own name) and IP infringement (making a copy of FF6, and still attributing it to Squaresoft).

The guy's a douche, but the pirates in the 90s were far, far worse that what this guy is doing. It's sketchy, sure, but then, it may be better than someone trying to downgrade/hack their own system, and botching it, on the one hand, or outright piracy on the other.

*shrug* sliding scale, and all that.

[–]LazoriusClassy Gray I5-4690K-4.45Ghz|2x4GB|Asus GTX 660(x2)|BX200 240GB 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

I remember when most of my friends were gaming on consoles, pretty much all they would talk about was how to use cheatcodes and exploits to give an edge in different games, and how PC gamers were cheating in all games. I just sat there and said "Cheatcodes and exploits are not to be used, It kills the game. Likewise mods are not to be used to cheat as that also kills the game"

[–]Shunpawi7 4790, r9 290, 1440@144hz dual screen 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

yes and no. I used to play GTA on ps2 like 7 years ago, and I cheated so much stuff, flying shooting dragon helicopters and shit, it was a lot of fun honestly, and without cheats it was just a boring game.

[–]LazoriusClassy Gray I5-4690K-4.45Ghz|2x4GB|Asus GTX 660(x2)|BX200 240GB 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In GTA i can agree, Not much else to do in it than cheat. But i am talking about games as a whole

[–]KronoakSCGWhy are you looking at this? 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i remember when using cheats made it so the game at some point would be impossible to complete, namely mad dogg jumping off the roof instantly making the mission the end of your game.

[–]AuroraHalseyi7 4770k 3.50GHz - GTX 980 Ti - 16GB RAM - 232GB SSD - 2TB HDD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So ironic that a the only platform that can't access the console is the console.

[–]the_dudereno 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also PC don't need these cheat mods when they have console commands.

[–]Slaughter_roundi7 6700 | R9 390 Nitro | ASUS H170 | DDR4 Ripjaws V 16GB 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why is it called a console if you can't access games' consoles?

[–]OliParkhouse 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not sure why you are being downvoted, it's a legitimate question.
The definition of console is 'a panel or unit accommodating a set of controls for electronic or mechanical equipment.' so in bethesda games it works as a virtual console in which game controls are kept.
I hope that helps?

[–]Slaughter_roundi7 6700 | R9 390 Nitro | ASUS H170 | DDR4 Ripjaws V 16GB 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That would help, but I already knew why that kind of console was called that! I meant the other one, the peasant one!

[–]OliParkhouse 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ah my bad. its to console them over their poor choice of purchase /Best joke 2k16

[–]Hanschrii5 4670, GTX 970 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

has console

no console

kek

[–]DeeSnow97FX 8320 - Sapphire R9 270X 4GB OC - 8 GB 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Give a PC gamer the ability to mod and he will make another game on top of it. Or two.

FTFY. Seriously, some mods are amazing if the game allows more than simple additional props.

[–]TheGuyWhoLikesPizzai7-3770 || AMD 6970 || ASrock Z77 Pro 4-M || 8GB || 212 || 300R 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Imagine a world without halflife mods.

[–]Shadowx93caNvidia GTX 660m, i7-3630QM@2.40GHz, 16 GB RAM 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Protip; Close your eyes. That's roughly how it looks. No need to use imagination.

[–]selethice1+1=get fucked 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You mean a world where I can keep my hard-earned money and spend it wisely? Madness!

[–]LirokuAMD FX8350 + GTX 970 G1 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I mean technically PC users have to make the mods...so really we are making game killing mods, then handing them over. It's sabotage...

[–]legayredditmodditorsWorst. Pc. Ever.Quad Core Peasantly Potatobox ^scrubcore ^inside 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Give a peasant the ability to mod, And he will kill the game, Give a PC gamer the ability to mod and he will make the game bigger.

Teach a peasant to mod, and he will cheat for a day. Teach a PC Gamer to mod, and he will make gaming great again.

[–]Mitsuma3930K/GTX980 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Give a PC gamer the ability to mod and he will make the game bigger

After we broke the game 100 times before it actually works and we get 1fps just enough to take amazing pictures.

[–]supamesican2500k@4.5ghz/FuryX/8GBram/windows 7 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Give a peasant the ability to mod, And he will kill the game

thats so true, people say paid mods will kill modding. I say peasants modding will kill modding before paid mods get a chance to.

[–]BlindSp0t4690k@4.5GHz/970/DasKeyboard/Zowie FK2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I love how CS:GO, Rust, TF2 are made better by mods. Whereas a console player adding console commands that exists from the get go on PC to their console version is killing the game.

Really sound argument there buddy!

[–]Stoyfan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

cough cities skylines cough

[–]CarterDavison5960x w/ H320 / 32GB 3000MHz DDR4 / X99 OC F / Titan X -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

This isn't true as PC generally has "cheats" top of the list too