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Gamespot tries to trick people into thinking Overwatch looks better on PS4 by comparing it to PC with settings turned to low. (youtube.com)

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[–]skullman6785 275ポイント276ポイント  (42子コメント)

An awful comparison in general. They didn't show the same functions side by side and YouTube compression makes these comparisons silly anyway.

I don't understand what these companies have to gain from just blatantly lying like this.

[–]DougyAM 81ポイント82ポイント  (10子コメント)

Controversial reviews generate more hits than boring reviews.

They won't have done this to help Sony or to attack pc gaming... they did this because they know a comparison claiming the ps4 version looks better will generate way more attention than one that shows the standard result of a PC vs console video.

That or their video guy is incompetent.

[–]-TheOutsid3r- 25ポイント26ポイント  (8子コメント)

The old saying that there's no such thing as bad publicty is increasingly proving itself to be untrue when it comes to services you use to inform yourself. They're not some starlet promoting her next movie, it's a side you'd go to to get proper information from.

This right here is what's killing these sides and quite rapidly so. It's why their clicks are falling and they're losing both trust and relevancy very quickly.

[–]PrimalZed 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

They don't care if people go to them for news and information, they just want the hits. The IGN "6.5/10" review for Heroes of the Storm was getting hits for months as people kept talking about it and it became a meme.

[–]Bwgmon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're following the lead of the Warcraft movie. The more ridiculous your claims, the more people come to your website to yell at you while generating traffic and revenue.

[–]TheMightyPedro 38ポイント39ポイント  (16子コメント)

It's not as bad as when IGN tried to do a graphics comparison using low quality GIFs.

[–]Coolguysevensevensev 9ポイント10ポイント  (12子コメント)

Link plz, I need to see this.

[–]TheMightyPedro 20ポイント21ポイント  (11子コメント)

http://uk.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Graphics_Comparisons

[–]PUSClFER 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

Know what infuriates me even more? How no one in the comments section points out how pointless those GIFs are.

these gif and videos were very helpful for me to make me decide which console to buy.

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

[–]TheMightyPedro 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the IGN comments section so that doesn't really surprise me

[–]Coolguysevensevensev 15ポイント16ポイント  (6子コメント)

Oh my god what the hell is gaming journalism anymore

[–]7V3N 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

A problem with most of journalism nowadays is that these people study to become journalists but all that does is teach how to write and of the logistics in the job. It doesn't teach you about the content you'll write about.

And nowadays the turnover is so quick that journalists are expected to hit a day of or next day deadline that they cannot properly educate themselves on the content. So instead we have this bullshit metanews that is just an article of tweets or we get just straight bullshit like this that is looking for clicks and deceives people. The uneducated come and read it and are convinced, the bounce rate goes down, time spent on the page goes up, the author can use the metrics to show off their articles success, advertisers are given this info when convinced to buy ad space, and the cycle just goes on.

[–]GentlemenScience 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

And nowadays the turnover is so quick that journalists are expected to hit a day of or next day deadline that they cannot properly educate themselves on the content.

You would think a company called "Gamespot" would not have to worry about educating their journalists in regards to gaming.

[–]7V3N 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not think. Hope. But the company as a whole seems to know very little about gaming anyway.

[–]doyle871 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think IGN or Gamespot have actual journalists they basically have people who used to be bloggers and such or studied "Social Media."

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    [–]duraiden 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's not just gaming journalism, pretty much all journalism is devolving like this. A shortened news cycle and the need for clicks and views has resulted in incredibly shoddy and shady ass shit.

    [–]-JI 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think this is nearly as bad since it's just showing the difference between two stills and it still has a video to go with it.

    [–]onpost 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The GIFs make it obvious the PS4 version looks better. I understand it might be funny because they're small GIFs and not some highres side-by-side, but it still gets the job done. Shadowing, AA and coloring is obviously better in the PS4 parts of the GIFs. What part of the joke am I missing?

    [–]CrusherTechnologies 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Or as bad as polygon with their inability to aim.

    [–]PlatonicBro 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nice try /u/TheMightyPedro or should I say IGN publicity guy

    [–]marcuschookt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Let's be honest here, IGN is pandering to an audience they KNOW they already have in the bag.

    Few people really believe that console graphics could outshine PC graphics if both platforms were trying. Even console gamers agree that PC graphics are better. Anyone who goes to these kinds of articles already has a preconceived notion of what they want to read, and IGN is just capitalizing on it.

    [–]GamingfulLuke 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I don't understand what these companies have to gain from just blatantly lying like this.

    AdSense. Realize how this video has a lot more views than their other run of the mill videos.

    [–]Sir_Lith 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Good riddance, I run uBlock Origin.

    [–]theseekerofbacon 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Uninformed people will think console is the way to go. They're hoping the hope will make this a way to move units. If people realize the PC version is better, they end up losing out on the potential game and console sale.

    Its fucking underhanded.

    [–]Lv_99RatBoss 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The views of morons.

    [–]HellsHumor 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    All specualtion - I believe console sales are more profitable because it's much more difficult to modify a console to play a pirated games with the remote software monitoring Sony and Microsoft use (banned from online services), console game priced stay higher longer in my observstion. PC games usually get discounted sooner from release date and sometimes have a lower base price in general. As far as profits go I think consoles have the potential to generate more sales with certain games.

    [–]CookieMunzta 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Console games also generally make more money in the short-term. PC games can sell well over a long period of time, thanks for instant access of decade-old games on places like Steam.

    Pre-owned games markets also cut in to the long-term profits for console sales.

    [–]RookBe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yup, that compression can be pretty bad. https://youtu.be/dJQX0tZsZo4?t=2m55s

    [–]duhbeetus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Views aren't tagged. that is, if 1 million people look at a piece of shit post, and 500K look at a great post, all the bean counters see is the numbers. This is why I have stopped sharing bad things on social media.

    [–]iwearadiaper 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    PS4 player here ! Why? Why did they do this? All i know is that the PS4 version runs well even if its not the best of them all, why are they just adding some console/PC war stuff like that? Can we just all play on what we like and stop that bs? * talking about Gamespot here not you guys.

    [–]tiananmensquaremass 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    These are some of the most popular videos. People love watching these.

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      [–]DerFelix 141ポイント142ポイント  (56子コメント)

      ... but why?

      [–]ColdBlackCage 62ポイント63ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Gamespot is almost single handedly responsible for fueling the fire that is the Console Wars.

      This kind of shit should not only be expected from Gamespot, but guaranteed at this point. They've made a hell of a business by fueling both sides of a non-existent debate.

      [–]Dubanx 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This wouldn't make me buy a console. This would make me not buy the game altogether...

      [–]the_light_of_dawn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Gamespot is almost single handedly responsible for fueling the fire that is the Console Wars.

      You're not wrong.

      http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/

      [–]FredFromTerra 48ポイント49ポイント  (48子コメント)

      Sony paid them?

      [–]echo-ghost 64ポイント65ポイント  (41子コメント)

      I really doubt sony paid them - it doesn't make a lot of sense, i mean trying to convince pc gamers to get a console version of a game based on graphics?

      i think the gamespot is retarded theory makes more sense

      [–]TWPmercury[S] 82ポイント83ポイント  (30子コメント)

      They aren't trying to convince pc owners anything. They are trying to convince console owners that pc isn't that great.

      [–]CH_GOROG 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

      ...why? They don't benefit from the sales of a PS4 or XONE. Not only that, but they'd be crazy to risk taking money from SONY or any other company after the Kane and Lynch review debacle

      [–]xStaabOnMyKnobx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Which only small children or fools will believe. I've owned every Playstation since 1999, very loyal to Sony and even I will admit PC'S are way sweeter for gaming. Just higher bar for entry but you get a lot of benefits from that.

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        [–]theseekerofbacon 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

        They're trying to convince people to come into their store to buy a console and the game instead of assembling a computer and purchasing online.

        Edit: idiot here. Woke up randomly at four am and read that as GameStop not gamespot

        [–]echo-ghost 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

        gamespot not game stop

        [–]theseekerofbacon 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

        In my defense. It was four am and I just randomly woke up. Decided to browse reddit a bit before going to bed.

        [–]MizarsAsterism 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Have you lost control of your life?

        [–]blupeli 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Why do you browse reddit when you randomly wake up instead of just going back to sleep?

        [–]dmoon2024 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

        What if he couldn't?

        [–]Foxton01 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Bring out the pitchforks boys, this guy isn't one of us!

        [–]GORGONFROMTHE4TH 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Well if someone has a console and a PC, and see this, belive it, and buy it on PS4, Sony just made money. It adds up and isn't that far fetched.

        [–]310_nightstalkers 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Don't put it past GameSpot, look up "Gertsmanngate".

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          [–]Kardest 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

          I doubt it's that blatant.

          More then likely they just don't have a real gaming pc and wanted to make a video to get clicks.

          [–]Gankdatnoob 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Gamespot doesn't have a gaming pc? I seriously doubt that.

          [–]DatAhole 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          But they have made similar videos before and how is it possible that they dont hve a gaming pc? Maybe they got paid by Sony.

          [–]310_nightstalkers 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Probably threw a bunch of "advertising" their way, if you know what I mean.

          [–]CH_GOROG 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I doubt they'd take money from SONY, especially after the shit show that was the Kane and Lynch review debacle.

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            [–]SpruceCaboose 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Also, their market is mostly console users. I spent years on their forums, the vast majority aren't PC gamers, and they've never focused much on PC.

            [–]doyle871 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Only a guess but lets see how many ads they have in the future from Sony. This stinks of a pay off.

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              [–]forgeflow 51ポイント52ポイント  (45子コメント)

              Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F34Nt8u6Blo

              [–]ToastRogue 23ポイント24ポイント  (40子コメント)

              I have to say that this game looks beautiful, on all the settings. I couldn't really tell the difference between either of the settings, but maybe I'm not looking at the right things. Either way it still looks amazing

              [–]Vythan 27ポイント28ポイント  (8子コメント)

              Having a good art style really helps. Edit: Especially if it isn't trying to be photorealistic to begin with.

              [–]Soylent_Hero 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Read: Stylized

              [–]Pasurojiti 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

              And there is nothing wrong with stylized graphics.

              [–]Vythan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              See edit.

              [–]Its_aTrap 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

              Remember 7? (I think is the name) GameCube game where you played as - actually it's 13 I remember now you played as different assassins throughout the game. Even back then that game was beautiful

              [–]Simon_CY 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I still think XIII looks fantastic.

              [–]DJKokaKola 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Okami. Still looks amazing 10 years later.

              [–]Albert_Caboose 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Killer 7 is the gamecube game you're thinking of. There's seven different assassins you play as in that one. XIII is an xbox original game that is designed like a comic book and is actually pretty fucking awesome.

              [–]AC3R665 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              IDK man, SWBFEA and BF4 still looks good regardless of settings.

              [–]TWPmercury[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (28子コメント)

              Game specific graphics aside, it's not feasible to compare console to PC ever, imo. Consoles are capable of 1080, PC capable of 4k and even higher. Consoles max out at 60 fps in some games. Asus is about to release a 180hz monitor that PC's can take full advantage of. It's such an unfair comparison to make, it's not even in the same league. These types of videos are 100% pointless and shouldn't even exist.

              Even if the graphics were 100% identical, consoles are running 1080/60fps, while my pc is running 1440/165. What is the point of trying to compare these?

              [–]Cifize 8ポイント9ポイント  (21子コメント)

              The vast, vast majority of gaming PCs are at 1080p60 or worse, though. Why should anyone cater to the minuscule minority (of which I am a part) that can go higher?

              [–]Kardest 7ポイント8ポイント  (10子コメント)

              As of this month the most popular video card on steam is the GTX 970

              With 71% of all steam users able to do directx 12.

              As of this month the most popular video cards are the 970 960 and 750.

              All these cards are more powerful then the ATI card that is in the PS4.

              *edit. Just a note that's around 2,750,000 people that have these cards. These number are a percent of the total steam user base.

              [–]Cifize 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

              Sure. Now look at the monitors they use. Only 5% are higher than 1080p. 50% are below 1080p. The guy I was responding to was harping on about 4K, but that's less than 2% of users.

              [–]MrMcWild 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

              1080 @ 144hz > 1080 @ 60hz. 144hz monitors are in the realm of affordability for most consumers that are interested.

              [–]Razor2143 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

              The vast, vast majority of gaming PCs are at 1080p60 or worse, though.

              Well he just proved you wrong about the majority being worse than 1080p60fps.

              You also don't need a higher refresh rate to benefit from higher framerates. One can still see a difference between 120fps 60hz and 60fps 60hz since your monitor and graphics card are not in sync and render/show new frames at different intervals.

              Obviously you would want to have a higher refresh rate to benefit the most from higher framerates.

              Btw I agree that one actually can compare pc/consoles but the way these sites compare is wrong since they should show different PC setups (enthusiast/mediocre/outdated) compared to the consoles. And you would need to use higher bitrates and framerates when showing the highest quality possible for PCs.

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                [–]TWPmercury[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

                Who said anything about catering? I'm just saying that it's pointless to compare two platforms when one is so far ahead of the other.

                [–]Hombremaniac -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

                There is a ton of console players still lying to themselves, that consoles got better graphics, gameplay and whatnot.

                IF the comparison was fair and properly done, ie showing PC graphics and gameplay is superior, then perhaps some could be cured out of their illusion.

                Sadly Gamespot is either totally incompetent or rather biased / paid against PC. So that is why they are instead feeding those lies, using stupid tricks like running PC games on low details or using screenshots from PC game and claiming its console version.

                I regret single second I spend on shitty website called Gamespot or IGN.

                [–]sexbobomb91 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                There is a ton of console players still lying to themselves, that consoles got better graphics, gameplay and whatnot.

                What? Do you really think that?

                [–]BallzSpartan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                As someone who plays on both, I prefer to play multiplayer games on console. On pc I have to launch a program to talk with friends, launch the game, sometimes turn my computer into a server before we can play. With console, I turn it on and we are connected, I don't have to worry about if johns computer can run this or will skype crash on Steves computer. We all have the same setup give or take and it is just easier. Plus I'm total shit trying to do anything quickly with a mouse. Now obviously I prefer single player on pc, better graphics, more precision, macros for repetitive things, vast user made modding community and so much more.

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                  [–]Po0zleP0under 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  idk how low in setting you went, but the game looks no where near as good in low settings.

                  source: I tried the game on my laptop after already playing it on my desktop.

                  [–]ColMarek 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  The only people I've seen doing proper comparison videos that you can actually tell a difference are DigitalFoundry

                  [–]TheRandomRGU 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Why is he playing an FPS like Overwatch on PC with a controller?

                  [–]Sevenlore 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Huh... I feel like that means I can chop down my PC budget since I'm aiming for something that can run Overwatch and Warframe until October.

                  [–]Mogg_the_Poet 247ポイント248ポイント  (68子コメント)

                  Oh god.

                  When will people stop trying to trick gamers?

                  Sure it can work and be successful but a lot of the times it doesn't, they figure it out and you end up losing a lot of credibility.

                  [–]JarredMack 100ポイント101ポイント  (14子コメント)

                  Since when did Gamespot have credibility?

                  [–]Gizortnik 46ポイント47ポイント  (11子コメント)

                  About a decade ago.

                  [–]flamingboard 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

                  Yeah, they used to be pretty good. Then the dark days of Kane and Lynch 1 happened and it's been in a burning death spiral ever since.

                  Edit: 1 not 2

                  [–]Gizortnik 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  No, no, no.

                  The dark days of Kane and Lynch 1 happened, Jeff Gerstman got fired (allegedly over his review), half a dozen staff members quit in response to his firing (including many major guys on staff) and he and Ryan Davis founded Giant Bomb. Ever since that incident GameSpot has been on a downward trend ever since.

                  [–]Cheese_Pancakes 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  I'm huge fan of giantbomb and Jeff (and Dan?) worked at gamespot prior, but didn't know about the circumstances of him leaving.

                  How did his review get him fired? Was it because he actually had integrity? If there are any articles or anything, I'd love to read up on it.

                  [–]Garudin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  He rated the game a 6 out of 10.

                  This was at the same time that to promote the game the game's publisher bought pretty much all the ad space on their site even taking over the normal Gamespot central background.

                  After the review the publisher complained to marketing which is generally supposed to be removed from the reviewers but in this case the higher ups caved and fired Jeff because of the pressure from the publisher.

                  [–]Mistamage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Same here!

                  [–]clstirens 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  This is an old article, and I know it has been better explained since, but this is the besti can do on mobile: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116360-Jeff-Gerstmann-Explains-His-Departure-From-Gamespot

                  [–]flamingboard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  You're correct. Was misremembering it as 2.

                  [–]CrouchingToaster 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  What happened with Kane and Lynch 1?

                  [–]Pepperman94 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  One of the reviewers gave K&L a 6/10 and got fired for it.

                  [–]RogueNine 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Wasn't that because like 4/5ths of their website was Kane and Lynch ads at the time?

                  [–]DieRunning 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Basically.

                  There's an interesting interview/explanation video Jeff did on this when Giant Bomb got bought by CBS and was moving into the same office as GameSpot several years ago.

                  [–]yaosio 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Right before Jeff Gerstmann and Ryan Davis left.

                  [–]SugarCoatedThumbtack 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Even though Think Geek has always been over priced, it saddened me they were bought by Gamestop.

                  [–]Wisex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  just look at the youtube comments.... it seems to be working

                  [–]d_r0ck 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Serious question from a dummy, how can you tell they're running on low settings?

                  [–]Mogg_the_Poet 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I've seen quite a few pixels in my time

                  [–]-Master-Builder- 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  The quality of the textures, lighting and shading, anti-aliasing, and other graphic settings.

                  [–]TheBigRedRocket 9ポイント10ポイント  (45子コメント)

                  Why do people think this was intentional? Couldn't it just be incompetence?

                  [–]SparkyBoy414 93ポイント94ポイント  (7子コメント)

                  It's much more pathetic if it was incompetence.

                  [–]Chronicler_ 20ポイント21ポイント  (34子コメント)

                  Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

                  [–]Bezulba 24ポイント25ポイント  (30子コメント)

                  Except when you're doing a video on image quality. Then you don't mistakenly set your pc to low graphics.. you pump it up all the way to the max if you're doing a true, honest, video.

                  [–]breadgonewild 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Except when money is on the line, then attribute it to malice. Game reviewing has had obvious "shilling" for a long time.

                  [–]The-red-Dane 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  But, just saying "Couldn't it just be because they're stupid" isn't adequately explaining their actions.

                  [–]CommanderZx2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Modern games analyse your PC and preconfigure the settings. They must either have a really terrible PC or the game would've preset for high settings.

                  [–]OneRoundPollyOlly 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  No one can be this stupid. Especially when it's a some site like Gamespot or Ign

                  [–]Siellus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  because the whole point of the video is graphics which they intentionally labelled "gameplay comparison"

                  Seriously, Gameplay comparisons aren't even a fucking thing.

                  [–]ScubaSte7e 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Most people won't figure it out unfortunately.

                  [–]Sinidir 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  If there is one thing i hate most, it's incompetent bad guys.

                  [–]Phixionion 84ポイント85ポイント  (21子コメント)

                  So can we actually starting focusing on ethics in gaming journalism?

                  [–]Arbabender 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  This hardly counts as journalism, this is just tabloid-like gaming media.

                  It's frustrating that it's now basically impossible to bring up the topic of ethics in gaming media without someone screaming you know what at the top of their lungs.

                  [–]pyjamasbox 37ポイント38ポイント  (9子コメント)

                  Since OP linked directly to their video, anybody who watches this video is literally handing over money to GameSpot for being pieces of shit.

                  Where is the incentive to stop? They make bad content, they make good money.

                  [–]HMW3 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  fuck that i have adblock. I only watched 15 seconds though.

                  [–]Kromgar 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  I have adblock hahahaha

                  [–]tonsilsloth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Yes. If they had made a regular comparison, this reddit post never would have been made, and all these views wouldn't have happened. It's simple business. Get views. Views means ads and money.

                  [–]Delokkous 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  You can adblock-a-roo them. I actively toggle that shit on for sites like gamespot and off for people i want to gib money

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                    [–]WeededDragon1 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    We tried once.

                    [–]Ketchupkitty 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Nah, thats sexist!

                    [–]ManualNarwhal 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    journalism

                    That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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                      [–]Skeczi 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Yes, the place we should be doing graphics comparisons is in a 1080p youtube video. Yep. Compression won't make it look shitty at all...nope.

                      Honestly, if you're going to do graphics comparisons please use screenshots. The very nature of youtube makes them bad for graphics comparisons.

                      [–]gazza_lad 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      I don't understand what the point of this was. In their defense it is a "gameplay comparison",(not graphics) but that should be just the same regardless of settings, the whole thing is just pointless and stupid.

                      [–]Arbabender 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      See, if it was a gameplay comparison at heart, why linger so long on identical, static scenes that only serve to highlight how much "worse" the PC version looks?

                      [–]003nicky 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Yes it's pretty pointless, but looking at the comments and the dislikes it shows that people are idiots. How? They are complaining about graphics in a gameplay video and most don't even realize it's not a graphics comparison video. Op said that.

                      [–]Bieber_MaBalls 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      10/10 would lower settings again

                      [–]StrykerIBarelyKnowEr 13ポイント14ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      Ohh, is it an April Fools video?

                      [–]wbmc 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      "Dear games journalism. Please keep being shit so we can take your audience. Thanks. YouTube." -Totalbiscuit

                      [–]ssd21345 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      any good gaming news websites beside Giantbomb now? Just wondering.

                      [–]DaBa1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Basically whole youtube

                      [–]003nicky 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      The Know? Op has click bait title read the video name and description it's not comparing graphics.

                      [–]Phesomt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      The Know. Especially when the Funhaus guys do it. Clickbait titles, but always with content.

                      [–]Neoptolemus85 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Doesn't surprise me, Gamespot has lost all credibility in my eyes since they started padding their content with clickbait, and trying to restyle themselves as more like a nerd lifestyle site, covering film, TV and comic books. They're just diluting their content so that you get mediocre articles on games AND film rather than decent articles on purely games.

                      They did another ludicrous article a few weeks back which was just about the most demanding games. Not the prettiest or most technically astounding, just the ones which notoriously run poorly. No analysis of why it might be, just a series of "hey, remember how poorly optimised THIS game was?" comments with a screenshot. Oh, and don't forget the infamous "top 20 most evil aliens" article. Ugh.

                      [–]Black_Punisher 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Technically, they didn't say it was a Graphics comparison.

                      [–]Soulcrifice 4ポイント5ポイント  (15子コメント)

                      The console war argument is so old and dumb I can't stand it anymore. To actually think a console with a PC GPU in it could achieve better performance than any high end gaming PC is stupid. What they could argue is for the money you spend on a console, you can get better performance than on a PC of the same value. But even that is a weak argument as there are some builds that can run better than a console for the same amount of money.

                      This is like saying "I have a PC with a GTX750 GPU and I can run ____ better than you with your GTX980!" Um no you can't, because fact is the 980 is just better. Same for the console, it's GPU has the ability to run modern games at a decent resolution for the price-point, but to compete with any PC? C'mon.

                      PC is just such a broad term that you can't say "PS4 VS PC" and actually mean every PC. You're basically saying "This game is better on PS4 than this PC." Because at the end of the day, there's a step up from the GPU in the PS4 or Xbone. This goes for all other components in the build as well, the consoles have good hardware, but there is always more powerful hardware that can be put in a PC.

                      [–]nationalisticbrit 7ポイント8ポイント  (12子コメント)

                      the consoles have good hardware

                      Yeah, they really don't. The 360 and PS3 were excellent, the current-gen essentially has laptop CPUs from 4 years ago.

                      [–]yunus89115 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Similarly priced products are about the only fair comparison.

                      Comparing a $2k+ gaming PC to a $500 console is no different than saying a Ferrari is faster than a Ford Focus. It's true but the Ferrari is unattainable to me.

                      I'd like to see this done on 3 systems. Console, similarly priced PC, high end PC.

                      [–]Soulcrifice 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I quite agree, which is why I dislike this video. It simply says PSV vs PC, and doesn't inform you on what kind of PC.

                      [–]Classy_Narwhal_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I love totalbiscuits comment.

                      Dear games journalism, Please keep being shit so we can take your audience. Thanks. YouTube.

                      [–]crowcawer 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Any xbox players key in?

                      I feel like it runs well, but the player base is a bunch of lost five year olds.

                      [–]ThatRatGuyOnReddit 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Calling it now, there are gonna be articles on other sites about how "elitist pc gamers" are runing gaming because they dare to call out this BS.

                      Just like when other publications defended Polygon's DOOM video and called out for the stop of the "toxic git gud mentality"

                      Also, for people not seeing the difference, around 2:00 it's most noticeable when selecting Hanzo.

                      [–]CH_GOROG 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      There are bits of interesting discussions to have concerning these "controversies".

                      How skilled should a reviewer be? Do the reviewers need to be fans of the genre they're looking at? Who are reviewers attempting to review FOR? What constitutes a "good build" to be representational for the PC platform (given that hardware for PCs isn't standardized)? What setting should a PC run at?

                      But I do agree that these interesting topics are often ignored for the more superficial click-bait.

                      It will be interesting to see what specs and settings the Gamespot people had when running Overwatch in the video.

                      [–]tugboat424 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      How skilled should a reviewer be?

                      Better than that scrub from polygon.

                      [–]duraiden 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Just like when other publications defended Polygon's DOOM video and called out for the stop of the "toxic git gud mentality"

                      Honestly we should count our blessings that it wasn't a woman who recorded that video. Would have been called misogynists.

                      [–]wayv__ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Note they say "gameplay comparison" not "graphics comparison", so to play devil's advocate ..perhaps they set the graphics low to get a good framerate?

                      Of course a gameplay comparison is stupid because that isn't the factor that differs between the platforms and anyone looking for a video like this will actually want the graphics comparison.

                      [–]ellgro 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I don't know what the reqs are for overwatch, but to be fair there are some people who can only play on low.

                      This is the same as one of those pictures someone takes of an extremely modded skyrim and they say "o gawd pc so beutiful guuise" but can only play it at 1 fps.

                      [–]tombue 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      But if you'd buy a PC for the price of a PS4, you can probably play with higher settings.

                      [–]UndeadBBQ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      game journalism remains dead.

                      [–]qwurtzelwurtzel 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Anyone knows some reliable, honest and not biased alternatives to sites like Gamespot, IGN and so? THis is a joke.

                      [–]Gizortnik 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Giant Bomb is the only one I know of that isn't a YouTube channel only. Still a lot of community content. They partner with Gamespot, but it is still a very separate organization. Best bet is to just watch their Quick Looks, read their official reviews, and then watch people do "Let's Play" 's.

                      [–]peterqub 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Do these graphics comparison videos actually change people's minds?

                      [–]greatmuta2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Am I on /v/?

                      [–]beardedgreg 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      People actually go to gamespot?

                      [–]realworldeditor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I'm just sitting back laughing at everyone making the argument of, "it's not a graphics comparison video."

                      Okay, it's not, so why turn down the graphics of the PC then? None of you answered that.

                      [–]UserEsp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Gaming Journalism... worthless

                      [–]sir_heartattack 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      And here am I playing Overwatch on full Low settings with 67% to be able to play it without constant lag.

                      [–]ModestlyInformed 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Even though I'm a PC gamer, I'll play devil's advocate here and put this out there:

                      Technically you are watching both games being played while meeting minimum requirements to perform on each respective system. The PS4 will always before at the same level and will at least meet the minimum standards for the game. The PC can vary wildly, and this is showing the game running the minimum requirements for it's respective platform.

                      [–]DuckyouDolan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Yeah well, they fucking suck at playing Junkrat.

                      [–]telestrial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Or some low level intern turned on both games and didn't think about it.

                      Don't attribute to malice what we can attribute to stupidity.

                      [–]Smelly_Bob 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      It is a given that a well-spec'd PC will ALWAYS beat XBOX AND PS4. It's so dumb their is a fight about it.

                      Consoles are convenient - this is the advantage. It is a box you connect to your TV and presto!

                      Disadvantage of PC is that its expensive, and the fact you are stuck on a computer.

                      [–]myles92 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Who gives a fuck? if you're dumb enough to believe this then you probably don't play video games.

                      [–]ThePiePieper 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Comparison videos are a joke in 2016. It serves no purpose other than to fan the flames of console wars.

                      [–]cachapaconqueso 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      only communist and retards would believe this.

                      [–]Kataclysm 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Welp, there goes any remaining respect I had for "professional" online journalism.

                      [–]4ever1der 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Did Sony pay them to make this video?

                      [–]CaptFlintstone 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Looks fine on both, moving on.

                      [–]REDNOOK 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Who cares. Seriously. It doesn't matter. It's just as sad that it bothers you.

                      [–]QuilFive 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      This should be the kind of videos we re host instead of giving views to Gamespot.

                      [–]BeefSerious 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      And I just got tricked into giving them a view.

                      [–]Garbi87 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Dear Gmespot stop making a fools out of yourselfs.

                      [–]Reddit-TheBoredGame 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Well if you own a shit computer like I do this is completely accurate.

                      [–]atom786 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I think of it this way - if you bought a PC for the same cost as a PS4, you'd have to run Overwatch on low settings, if you can even run it at all. In that context, this video makes sense to me.

                      [–]RedditGoldReciever 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      How did they record the pc and ps4 if they were on the pc. You can't be on a pc and a ps4 at the same time. Duh.

                      [–]me_and_batman -5ポイント-4ポイント  (18子コメント)

                      It looks exactly the same to me.

                      [–]TeWoodrow 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      TBH I prefer running low settings as it makes the game more cartoony which I really like. Ready for the storm.

                      [–]Scrennscrandley 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      no way man, fuck you for having preferences that are different than mine

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