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DiscussionWhat happens to Fellaini under Mourinho? (self.reddevils)
opacino が 3時間前 投稿
Will he be sold? I haven't really heard any rumours of him being sold. Will he be transformed by Mourinho? What position would he play?
[–]mufctezSchweinsteiger 39ポイント40ポイント41ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Can we not have a whole summer of "What happens to X under Mourinho?" posts?
None of us know.
[–]SPQRRome 37ポイント38ポイント39ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
Reddit experts know everything mate.
[–]kw9403Rooney 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Can't believe everyone keeps forgetting this
[–]TheBelgianMicrophoneGet Well Soon Shaw <3 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 31分前 (0子コメント)
Don't you want to people to share their opinion on what might happen though? This is a discussion forum after all!
[–]Crusty_Gammon_Flaps 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
I think he will probably stay. We haven't seen him play for us properly because he just kept getting played out of position until the end of the season when he actually had some good games.
[–]legoldenboy 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 3時間前 (13子コメント)
Why would he be sold, Mourinho loves that kind of player.
[–]debrocker 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 2時間前 (7子コメント)
Lol no he doesn't. Name me one player remotely similar to Fellaini that Mou have used during his coaching career
[–]Cairde_Le_Sochair 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Jiri Jarosik
[+]seihandaShaw スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 2時間前 (5子コメント)
Name me one player remotely similar to Fellaini that Mou have used during his coaching career
matic
[–]VallureHerrera 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
Similar in size, completely different in everything else. Matic is a defensive midfielder whereas fellaini is an attacking centre mid.
[–]frankowen18 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Absolutely. Fellaini has got nowhere near the control over his body that Matic does either, he's way more dynamic. Fellaini in midfield is like watching a geriatric spider with an Afro in slow motion, it's just limbs everywhere as he clatters into badly timed tackles.
[–]AnjumiRonaldo -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 58分前 (0子コメント)
LOVE THIS! ahahaha
[–]shinkag 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Matic is absolutely nowhere near Fellaini. Matic has many more uses than just being a target to hoof the ball at. Anyone who compares Matic to Fellaini knows fuck all about football.
[–]pearlz176The Ginger Prince 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 39分前 (0子コメント)
They're not even remotely similar.
[–]sizzlelikeasnail 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 3時間前* (3子コメント)
That kind. Doesn't mean he'll love Fellaini. I was baffled by how often LVG relied on him. I could never imagine managers like Ancelotti, Pep, Wenger ect having him in their squad. Let alone using him.
For someone who is so keen on possession it makes no sense to stick Fellaini in the center. And before anyone says he's there for headers, look how short Barca's lineups usually are. I don't see them conceding a goal every corner lol. Our fully fit best XI is quite tall anyway
I think he'll be sold but who knows.
All I know is if he's starting as much as he previously has then I'll be disappointed. We shouldn't be starting midfielders because they can only head and chest the ball ffs
Edit: upon giving it extra thought, i don't even think Mou likes the type of player Fellaini is in the first place.
Matic is nothing like Fellaini. And Mou never bought fellaini type players while at Madird or Inter either
[–]DutchTouristDaley Blind 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Well it came out that Fellaini was one of a few players who listened to criticism of v Gaal and the coaching staff, so I can understand why v Gaal wanted to play him. He might not be the best player but he was effective in some games and had the right mentality in my opinion. I can't see him starting that much under Mourinho, but who knows.
[–]LedgeySCScholes 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
I think he did actually offer something last season and I think we missed him during the West Ham game. He isn't an exceptional player but his stature can make up for that. I think the criticism of him is somewhat unwarranted and his treatment is unfair.
Perhaps it's a case that Ibrahimovic (should we sign him) can offer that stature but I don't think he's as aggressive a player as Fellaini who, despite his shortcomings, does have pretty good range to get back and forth.
Van Gaal utilised him brilliantly in the first season however unfortunately it didn't pay off so well in the second. With that said, there were games where it paid off.
Because of how limited he is I don't think he's going to be a first team player next season if he stays. That said, he's always a good asset to have.
We should keep him, I think.
[–]scrantonic1ty 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 9分前 (0子コメント)
I sort of agree but if Mourinho wants to bring in a midfielder, I won't be sad to see him leave before our other midfielders.
[–]shinkag 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
No he doesn't. Fellaini is useless if not used as a target to hoof the ball at, when has Mou ever used a player like that?
[–]maydaybomberHerrera's #1 fan 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 2時間前 (3子コメント)
Hopefully he gets sold.
[–]zBlazikenRashford -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 56分前 (2子コメント)
Mate, he was one of our best players in the last third of the season. It's because we played him in his position, and we didn't do long balls. He was amazing for Everton. The class he had there won't just dissappear.
[–]sizzlelikeasnail 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 25分前 (0子コメント)
We're never going to reach the heights we were once at with someone as limited as Fellaini starting. And I can think of better impact players to have on the bench too. Even Andy Caroll would offer all Fellaini does + more.
Genuienly there's not a single top manager I can think of that would use Fellaini as often as LVG did. It's incredible how we've sunk so low that being great at headers and chesting the ball is all that's needed to play lol.
The thing is I don't even think he was bad this season. But if he's still anywhere near the starting lineup when the PL starts then Mou would've had a disastrous window. And Fellaini won't settle for being only rarely used so I think it's best if he goes.
You can't say you want Fellaini in CAM then question why our midfield is so uncreative. As soon as he's in the lineup, our tactics are usually lump the ball to him or play down the wings. Suddenly the thought of quick passing and playing down the center goes out the window since Fellaini is slow and has awful vision.
[–]maydaybomberHerrera's #1 fan 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 53分前 (0子コメント)
In what world. He had 2 good games. One of them being against Everton which was his best game ever for us. But that doesn't justify him staying. He has had time to prove his worth and has failed, he needs to go .
[–]XXX-Rx_RnRSir Alex 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I don't have a clue. I'm sorry.
[–]Ketch1Mata 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
He doesn't really seem like a Mourinho player too me. Fellaini may not get much game time
[–]pcaming 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
I suppose if he kept mikel, he could find a role for fuzzy.
[–]BlindMan94 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
He'll never be seen again.
[–]footballbloodyhellJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (7子コメント)
He is an average player,but in EPL we need his phisical presence against physical teams like stoke,west ham...
[–]moonskiViva Ronaldo 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
that's just stereotypical nonsense
[–]ibaRRaVzLaJosé Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (4子コメント)
This is a common misconception. We don't need physical presence if we produce quality football to break down opponents. The only physical presence truly required relies on the centre backs and maybe -but not necesarilly- on one of the CMs, or the DM.
[–]fleaonnj4 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
What about attacking and defending setpieces? Good football doesn't really help you there.
[–]ibaRRaVzLaJosé Mourinho 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
It does. Positioning and overall good defending and correct marking. It's not all about being shit but having tall players. As someone else pointed out, you don't see Barça conceding in every set piece.
[–]shadowbanned32 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
That's retarded. Everyone needs a physical presence. It's a physical game and if Allardyce and Pulis can just bully us around and score from most of their free kicks then we'll be pretty fucked.
This isn't baseball.
As I said, the only physical presence needed are the centre backs. If you have to rely on some tall guy who plays like shit instead of good positioning and correct marking by shorter players, clearly something isn't right. One more reason LvG had to go.
[–]OhHayJohn 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
We only need his physical presence because our team was badly managed. If we get a proper strong CB beside Smalling then already Fellaini's use dwindles. Jose will also probably buy a strong midfielder - the Matic type - which again will reduce his game time. For all his huff and chest control, Fellaini isn't good enough for a top club.
[–]AculeusManchester United 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Not only for Fellaini, but I assume that Mourinho is going to want to atleast work with most of the players first before he decides who he wants to keep and who he wants to let go, I doubt we'll may of our regulars leave this summer.
[–]AveLuciferGiggsy! 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
He becomes Stormzy's hypeman.
[–]harsh7_ -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 47分前 (0子コメント)
He will play the CUNT Also open spaces with his elbow for Zlatan during corners
[–]StannisJrScholesy 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前* (3子コメント)
Should be kept. He adds something different to our squad that we lack without him for now. I think Jose will keep him.
[–]esonkcocGiggs 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
I'm glad someone else sees some value in what Fellaini offers. I'm sick of hearing how useless he is, seemingly because he is an unfashionable player. His games against West Ham (away) and Everton in the FA cup were superb. He's show great character too, given how clearly unloved he is by fans. Always unfairly scapegoated due to being a symbol of the Moyes era. Deserves a role in the squad, without question.
[–]VictoriousPRRonaldo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 42分前 (0子コメント)
Hear. Hear!
[–]HillClimbRacer 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
I knew a pro Fellaini circle jerk would arise just because he was decent by the end of the season. LOL.
[–]labtecozaDeutscher Fußballmeister 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
We should definitely keep him. Good mentality and he can be very useful as he has shown over the last 2 seasons.
[–]HillClimbRacer 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2分前 (0子コメント)
he has shown over the last 2 seasons.
Don't make me laugh.
[–]tiger1296Masturbinho -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
Reckon he will be a great fit great, he bring a lot of hold up play, aerial threat, great at defending set pieces, making a nuisance of himself in play
[–]opacino[S] -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
True. But if we get Zlatan, who I think does all of these things, do we still need to keep Fellaini? Or will he be converted to a proper DM under mourinho.
[–]tiger1296Masturbinho 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Doubtful, Fellaini doesn't have the technical ability to do that. Having two tall players attacking a side will be great, Fellaini can get knockdowns and Zlatan can bully CB's, which we've sort of missed since RVP left
[+]shinkag スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 3時間前 (7子コメント)
Hopefully he fucks off to Italy or Belgium for a decent fee that sees up make back most what we paid for him. Maybe Van Gaal will buy him for his garden in the Algarve?
[–]FeezbullGiggs 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Hopefully he fucks off to Italy or Belgium for a decent fee that sees up make back most what we paid for him.
I honestly hate such comments. When it's a player we feel isn't good enough, we throw around such pathetic statements. "Piss off. Useless player. Can't wait to see us sell him"
When it's a player we love that gets linked away? Oh no please don't sell Blind. He's so good. And kind. And handsome. And useful. He's got the ability to be amazing and so so so good and we overhype him. I'm so sad for Mata... :(((((
When it's a player who wants to leave for family reasons like de Gea? No! He owes us. Should think of the club first. Family can wait. Get his girlfriend to move for goodness sakes. Fuck him if he can't see he should stay and give us what we want.
It's fine you feel this way but you should never slate any player who wants to leave on their own too for whatever valid or ridiculous reason even. Otherwise it's utter hypocrisy really.
[–]mrmadoff 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
i can't speak for the entire subreddit but i honestly think the majority of people were understanding to de gea wanting to leave last summer. i can't recall too many 'fuck him' comments, it was mostly 'fuck madrid'.
but yes, fellaini is a deadweight. he does need to fuck off somewhere else
[–]FeezbullGiggs 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
alright fair opinion. Then you should've accepted that di Maria wanted to leave anyway and have no criticisms for how he did that. Why? Because as poor as Fellaini is to some people, it's not his fault he manager picked him every time and he did his best in each game according to what he was asked to do.
And yet people want him to piss off, bugger off, fuck off from the club like he's some dirtbag who's done nothing good. Why? Oh right, it's because it's what "we want" then and only what we want is important.
If your sentiments towards a player who's been useful at minimum and helped us is such, you shouldn't be aggrieved when players actually do "what they want because what they want is important and the only thing that matters to them" in the form of di Maria or even Heinze wanting to go to liverpool because in the end, it's "what we want" that counts right?
Good on di Maria for leaving United and chasing his and his wife's wishes instead. He got what he wanted and that's all that matters to him so kudos on the sulking and going back on his word.....
I was harsh with the comment, I'm aware.
When it's a player we love that gets linked away?
Obviously we don't want our best players to be sold. What do you expect someone to say if Martial is linked to a move away? "Oh boy, £50m for him would be fantastic, get on it Woody please sell him!"
Personally don't believe in that. I don't want DDG to leave but if he wants to then so what, it's not the end of the world, we'll get a slight downgrade in keeper and that's that. He doesn't owe us fuck. If we can keep him it's great, if not then tough luck.
[–]AchrefJaziri -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
Fellaini is one of the reasons why we won the FA cup. He works hard and is comitted to the team. Why should he be sold ?
Because he's absolutely nowhere near good enough for this club. Technically he's as good as a donkey and even his aerial ability is overrated. Physically he's strong on the ball but he's slow, he's dirty and every season you can count on him to miss 3+ games due to bans. He's just not good enough. Not even as a plan B. If hoofing it to Fellaini as a plan B was such a great idea why don't the best teams in Europe ever do it? Why aren't Bayern and Madrid putting in £30m bids for him? Because he's a mostly useless oaf that's why. He's had his uses for us and won us some games but fuck me he needs to go.
[–]OhHayJohn 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前* (0子コメント)
Because he is not good enough for a top team. Working hard and being committed is great but you also need quality, quality the big man doesn't have when the ball is at his feet.
[–]SPQRRome -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
The only place I can see fellaini in mourinho's system is as a defensive midfielder. Mourinho will try to change his play style from a box to box midfielder to a no nonsense anchorman. Fellaini does have the attributes to be a makelele, high work rate, aggresiveness, tall, strong. However, he has glaring mistakes too,m as he is hardly "no nonsense", he is ill-disciplined and prone to losing concentration. Moyes gave him a go as defensive midfielder and we all know how it went.
Moyes is no mourinho, so we have no idea how he will do this time round. The ball is in fellaini's hair. It is up to him impress otherwise he is a goner.
[–]manutd_ 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Fellaini can't do a fair tackle. He will give away so many fouls from dangerous areas if played deeper.
[–]AC5L4T3R 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Playing as a DM and giving away a foul every time he jumps for the ball 30 yards from goal? No thanks.
[–]mufc2094 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
I think peopl overrate fellaini on this sub
[–]errboiBlind 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 43分前 (0子コメント)
Everyone shits on Fellaini in this sub. Hard to imagine one of the most disliked, criticized guys on the squad being overrated.
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