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PeasantryConsole "modders" stealing PC mods and re-uploading them for Xbox in compilation packs without giving credit to the original creator (self.pcmasterrace)

459pmeupward が 投稿

http://imgur.com/sK9YDZo

Update 1: (Response of guy who stole the mod) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj8eamAWgAAeF4y.jpg:large

Thanks /u/papitopaez!

Update 2: (Response of the guy who had his mods stolen)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJVlZJcqAzk

Thanks /u/arbiter8837!

Update 3: This guy is the PR guy for Bethesda. He usually responds to tweets. I've tweeted him about this twice and he is ignoring me. PCMR ought to tweet at him. (@DCDeacon): https://twitter.com/DCDeacon?s=09

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[–]needo2redditR7 265, Athlon X4 860k 376ポイント377ポイント  (23子コメント)

inb4 Bethesda bans the original creators and sues them afterwards

[–]Lurker_Since_Forever 127ポイント128ポイント  (21子コメント)

I dunno, I think it would be great pro bono work for a lawyer, a suit against Bethesda for illegally hosting copyrighted material. Sounds fun.

[–]I_RARELY_RAPE_PEOPLEPC Master Race 31ポイント32ポイント  (14子コメント)

Is it copyrighted if they used bethesda's creations to modify?

[–]jeffthedunker 21ポイント22ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'd bet money that modders do not legally own their own mods, but rather it's Bethesda's property.

[–]taedrin 40ポイント41ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mods are probably considered "derived works", so modders own their own mods but would need the publisher/developer's permission to create, copy and distribute their derived works. Publisher/developers would need permission from modders to distribute the mods as well.

[–]ICBarkaBarka 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Steam Workshop is direct consent, not even implied consent. Developers only have Steam Workshop enabled if they work with Steam to allow for it.

[–]PatHeistPhenom II 1100t 4.5GHz OC, 2x GTX 560ti 2GB, 16GB RAM, WC Rads 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not how that works. They may need Bethesda's permission to distribute, and they may not be allowed to make money from the distribution of their mods, but Bethesda doesn't own anything made by modders unless it is explicitly purchased from them. They can write all they want about owning distribution rights for derivative works in ToSs and EULAs, but it doesn't hold shit for legal weight.

If two parties have shared IP rights to something the permission of both parties is always required to distribute it.

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      [–]ButtersTheNinjaGTX970 Intel i5 4690k 8GB RAM 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Isn't that covered under safe harbour law?

      [–]HokuraiSpecs/Imgur here 36ポイント37ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Only until the website is made aware of it. If they don't pull it, they can be liable.

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          [–]KronoakSCGWhy are you looking at this? 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          ha, bethesda would lose not only PR but also money.

          [–]papitopaezi5, gtx860m, 8gb ram, 1tb hdd, 8gb ssd 1417ポイント1418ポイント  (194子コメント)

          Response from the guy that stole ddproduction's mods and how he tries to justify it

          Edit: Keep in mind this guy was asking for donations for the content he stole

          [–]Who_cares_about_nameIntel core i5 4200U/GT 740M 453ポイント454ポイント  (25子コメント)

          Also he said feel free to blame the author not himself

          [–]jack1197 372ポイント373ポイント  (23子コメント)

          Gotta love that, after all of the people saying to 'just tick the xbone and ps4 boxes', someone decides to re-upload for console, and it breaks saves, wow. its almost like it isn't that simple after all...

          [–]atriax4690k @ 4.5 Sapphire r9 390 133ポイント134ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I was gonna ask if the changed anything or simply downloaded it and reuploaded the same exact mod but allowed consoles to download it. That's a good way to fuck over everyones saves. I honestly hope they continue to do this shit and get banned.

          [–]ahundredheys 81ポイント82ポイント  (21子コメント)

          Haha. It broke saves? Serves them right.

          [–]Stonaman 93ポイント94ポイント  (6子コメント)

          When you say "them" who are you referring to? Because if you're talking about the random console players that know literally nothing about the situation, that's not necessarily their fault.

          If you're talking about the "modders" that have no idea what they are doing when stealing content, then yeah fuck them.

          [–]EremeirEremeir 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Who knows what else it might have broken!

          [–]EllieFromTheLastOfUs 35ポイント36ポイント  (10子コメント)

          That's pretty messed up, there's probably some people who were just downloading the mod blindly and just lost countless hours.

          [–]El-GruntoPeesee Mustard Rice 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

          They shouldn't have lost anything since the Xbone creates a copy of your save for modded games. So you could have Save #1539 for your character Hamilton and when you install a mod the game creates a copy and puts an indicator that the save is modded.

          [–]KILLSBITCHES 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I hope something good comes of it and they find out what caused their game to corrupt. But hopefully they realize who the real bad guy is here.

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              [–]The4thTriumvirGLORIOUS! 67ポイント68ポイント  (0子コメント)

              What's even funnier is that the mod author said in his video that it was unstable on PC and had the chance of breaking saves and that he just released a stable version that doesn't break anything. So, this douchebag has the balls to say "Feel free to blame dd ;)" when it's the douchebag's fault for uploading the broken version in the first place. xD

              [–]459pmeupward[S] 812ポイント813ポイント  (98子コメント)

              What a POS.

              [–]everypostepic 508ポイント509ポイント  (96子コメント)

              This is why having consoles is good. It keeps shitty people where they belong, and out of our online communities.

              [–]EWSTW 324ポイント325ポイント  (40子コメント)

              Hahaha didn't work I'm a console peasant on your online forum!

              But I totally agree with you guys that guy sucks.

              [–]StickmanShamSargent Tittymilk 272ポイント273ポイント  (9子コメント)

              It's not about the hardware in your rig but the software in your heart

              [–]everypostepic 100ポイント101ポイント  (8子コメント)

              Nothing can filter 100%, but it helps. 😏

              [–]PARTY-PETE 42ポイント43ポイント  (6子コメント)

              MOOOOODSSSSSSSSS

              [–]rootbeerfetishi7 4790k @4.7ghz 980Ti 1451mhz +502mem pcpartpicker.com/p/K2mg8d 36ポイント37ポイント  (7子コメント)

              We don't mine if you like consoles man. Not at all. Its shitty attitudes we don't want. Please don't be offended when I say this but consoles appeal to the type of person that just wants to turn on his/her console on and play. Its simpler, there's less thought in the process (you pay a premium for it fyi). This appeals to the person that works all day, isn't a moron and just wants to not think anymore when he/she gets home. Sadly enough it also appeals to the type of person that IS a slow POS moron that can't possibly deal with any kind of learning curve at all and sticks to a console because anything else is beyond him/her.

              Just don't be a shitty person or spread mis-information like consoles are more powerful than PC's blah blah. And you're perfectly welcome in this sub.

              [–]EWSTW 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

              But the human eye can't see past 30fps!

              Just kidding.

              I'm not even a console peasant, I don't own one. Play on my friends now and then. I also don't own a pc, but I'm working on it!

              [–]dpschainmani7 6700K,980GTX 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

              the $200 amd 480 will help you alot, its supposed to be comparble to a nvidia 980, which is what i got and that card can run aything.

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                  [–]dahayul 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Sorry, but there are shitty people in every community.

                  [–]The_Nepenthe 63ポイント64ポイント  (26子コメント)

                  There's plenty of toxicity in the PC gaming world, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

                  [–]SkyeFlaymePC Master Race 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  No kidding, I just got done playing some casual CS:GO. I feel dirty.

                  [–]jp221 20ポイント21ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  Anyone whose ever played league or CS GO knows how toxic the pc gaming community can be.

                  [–]IanKett 24ポイント25ポイント  (8子コメント)

                  I've run into toxic PC gamers a hell of a lot less than on my X1 or PS4.

                  but that statement is still true.

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                    [–]medioxcore 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    This is just about the dumbest thing I've read today.

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                        [–]Droid85 75ポイント76ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        DDProductions83 actually already had imported some of his mods to X-Box One: Alternate Death, Floating Combat Text, Increased Settlement Budget 20x so this guy's argument that he's justified in uploading DDP's mod (an alpha mod that he released yesterday) is total bullshit.

                        [–]Shermanderi5-4690k GTX 980 123ポイント124ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        "Feel free to blame DD".

                        Holy fuck the balls on this guy.

                        [–]EWSTW 162ポイント163ポイント  (30子コメント)

                        As a console peasant:

                        Fuck that guy

                        [–]guto8797 420ポイント421ポイント  (23子コメント)

                        You aren't a peasant if you play on console

                        You are one if you act like this guy and/or vehemently defend console superiority against all evidence

                        [–]leonardnimoyNC1701 64ポイント65ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Preach.

                        [–]ScrumTool4690k@4.2Ghz\\980TI Hybrid\\16GB DDR3-2400Mhz\\34" 3440x1440 IPS 32ポイント33ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        Honestly I feel like most of his hate came from the situation, not from the console V PC debate itself. IP theft would piss you off too if someone was profiting from something you put time and effort into.

                        [–]guto8797 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        I meant that the content thief is a peasant, but the commenter I responded to is not necessarily one just because he has a console

                        [–]ScrumTool4690k@4.2Ghz\\980TI Hybrid\\16GB DDR3-2400Mhz\\34" 3440x1440 IPS 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        My misunderstanding then. Proceed unmolested.

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                          [–]XxThumbsMcGeexX 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          Consoles are/were better for one thing, and that was bringing everyone around the same screen on a couch. That's all that it had going for it in terms of being better.

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                            [–]Arkansan13 39ポイント40ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Not a peasant my friend, peasant is a mindset not a gaming platform. You're just a brother waiting to ascend :)

                            [–]EWSTW 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Working on my PC now! Some guys on here help me put together a list of parts. I'm just buying parts as I go now.

                            [–]ImSkriptedI5 4690k 290x 16gb Ram 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            fixed

                            As a console player: Fuck that guy

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                              [–]Michamusi7-5820k, GTX 980 TI SC+, 32GB DDR4 3200, 500GB M.2, AOC 1ms 4K 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I don't like him, so that means I can steal from him

                              What infallible logic.

                              [–]Datkif 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Blame DS

                              Lol blame the guy for a broken unauthorized port of a mod.

                              [–]SuttBallioni5-6500/R9 390 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Human garbage.

                              [–]cyka__blyatAMD FX-8320 | GTX 970 | 8 GB 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              My jimmies are very rustled.

                              [–]nolifegam3rEVGA 980 TI SC+ | 34um95 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I ported a mod to console and maybe might have jacked it up and your saves, but since the cats out of the bag that I'm not the author you can blame the author. Also, he's a jerk so sympathize with me as I use blanket statements to demean him.

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                                [–]KyrluckechuckIntel i7-K875 | GTX 460 | 4GB/8GB 655ポイント656ポイント  (81子コメント)

                                Glad they've got a semi-solution of corrupting the files upon extraction!

                                [–]459pmeupward[S] 364ポイント365ポイント  (77子コメント)

                                They ought to build in some kind of background process that drops thousands on NPCs slowly while you play and kills your FPS over time, maybe even overheating the console.

                                [–]ImSkriptedI5 4690k 290x 16gb Ram 103ポイント104ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                just make the mod more than 2gb so they cant load it in

                                [–]Retlaw83 128ポイント129ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                My solution is going to be to add a F4SE script to any mod I release, whether it needs it or not. If I decide to release on a console, I can remove that script.

                                [–]stevbriscwuddatank 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                God's work.

                                [–]Punkmafflesi5-2500Kcpu@3.30ghz | AMD R9 280x 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I wouldn't release on console if they start crying and demanding you upload to console though. I'm glad mods for consoles are possible, but this bs needs to stop. Otherwise no one will bother porting popular mods to console for them to enjoy like we do.

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                                    [–]hugglesthemercilessi5 3570/2x760/MX100 422ポイント423ポイント  (40子コメント)

                                    Don't punish the player, they're probably ignorant of this happening. Punish the person who stole the mod in the first part

                                    [–]telios87 288ポイント289ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    The players will punish the thief. There's no other way. Bethesda doesn't care and won't do anything.

                                    [–]Raidann 139ポイント140ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    some of the comments asking the thief uploader to use a fake account and re-upload them would suggest that some users need to be punished too.

                                    [–]MeththeDolphinAthlon 760k, GT 730 passive 2gb GDDR3, 8 gb ram 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Some, not all. Too much of a grey area

                                    [–]londonagain 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    How do you punish the false author without a $100k legal suit?

                                    [–]agent-squirrelXEON E3 1230v3 8GB Evo Potenza GALAX GTX 970 HOF 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    Pack a Trojan into the file that is only executed on decompression.

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                                        [–]ShallowBasketcaseCoolerMasterRace 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Kinda sucks because some people like to tinker with mods for personal use. I don't think I have ever once downloaded a mod and installed it as intended without unpacking it, taking it apart, and messing with it first.

                                        Of course I would never distribute that stuff and claim it as my own, because just because I put a coat of silly paint on a car doesn't mean I invented the damn car, you know what I mean?

                                        Thanks for ruining PC gaming, console gamers!

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                                          [–]PepperglueDRM-free is an unalienable right 301ポイント302ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                          I apologize for broken save games. Feel free to blame dd :)

                                          What a dick. If you compiled a number of mods, and decided to share it. How about you take up all of the responsibility?

                                          Mods on Bethesda games are already easy to break, especially if you don't know what you are doing.

                                          [–]Bozzz1GTX 770, i5-4670k, terrible internet 137ポイント138ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          And I DID try to fix it where I could.

                                          Well, he's probably not lying. He fixed it nowhere because he probably has no idea what the fuck he's doing.

                                          [–]Day_Bow_Bow 43ポイント44ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I personally think that was their worst offence. It demonstrates that they knew that the port corrupts saves, but still kept a broke ass version posted. Malicious negligence.

                                          [–]EsquireSquire 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Fucking asshole wants all of the credit and none of the blame.

                                          [–]FudgeSocietyi7-4790k@4.8GHz - GTX 980 Ti - 32GB RAM@2400 - Corsair HX 850 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          It was his mod until it started breaking people's games, then it wasn't his mod anymore.

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                                            [–]TeamAquaAdminMattGTX 970, i5-4690k, 16GB DDR3 Ram, Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD 167ポイント168ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                            I'm wondering how long until modders just start requiring F4SE just so it can't run on consoles

                                            [–]Herculefreezystari5 4690k | R9 290 | 16gb ram 111ポイント112ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                            More than likely all the good mods will require the script extender anyways, they always have before.

                                            Console uses are fucked one way or the other.

                                            [–]TheRandomNPC 39ポイント40ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                            I can just imagine so many console players getting super pissed when they can't run the really cool mods that will come out that need the script extender. I can already imagine them just getting mad and refusing to understand when someone trys to explain why those mods won't work.

                                            [–]Herculefreezystari5 4690k | R9 290 | 16gb ram 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                            Didnt the guys that make the Script extender say its never coming to console? Or was it someone on the console end who isn't allowing the script extender on console?

                                            [–]limefoghttp://steamcommunity.com/id/limefog/ 71ポイント72ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Script extender isn't a normal mod for the game, it's a modification of the game in the sense that it adds new functionality by adding third-party code to the game. You can do this on PC but you can't just modify your game however you want on console - it has to be through mods using the game's modding API. So script extender is not coming to console because you just can't do that on consoles - not because you physically can't but because you're not allowed.

                                            [–]runnerofshadows 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Yeah. being able to run arbitrary code on a console would allow for someone to bypass all the console DRM.

                                            [–]Geotan00 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            In theory if you were skilled at actually modding consoles (not just FO4, but like Homebrew and Jtag) then it may be possible. But nothing these people begging for mods could ever do.

                                            [–]venicelloMade the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Well, it would be difficult to port to consoles. It's not like it works like a normal mod - instead of you running the game with the mod in the game's data folder, you run the game through F4SE and it reads the extra crap from the F4SE mods in your data folder.

                                            Now, for consoles, that would mean either making F4SE a new startup option OR it would mean bundling the script extender in with the game automatically. I'd be down with the script extenders for Bethesda games coming with the games themselves, because that would make modding just a little bit simpler for everybody, but I don't think it would work, because the SKSE, FOSE, F4SE, whatever teams push out updates far past when Bethesda stops updating their games. It's too much of a community thing for Bethesda to actually incorporate.

                                            Really, the best solution would be for Bethsoft to let their game engine work on a real programming language with real powr instead of Papyrus.

                                            [–]red_fluff_dragoni5 4460-16gb ram-GTX 760 (1333 mHz OC)-3840x1080 res 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            The sad part is they won't realize they brought it upon themselves. It will be both funny and sad though when someone tries to upload a mod that breaks the game on consoles, then blames the original dev for "making a shitty mod"

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                                              [–]arbiter8837not worth any [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] 104ポイント105ポイント  (56子コメント)

                                              DD productions made a video about it as shown in the text but here's a link for the lazy

                                              [–]Cptn_Awesome 28ポイント29ポイント  (26子コメント)

                                              Is that video supposed to be super choppy? Gave me freaking motion sickness just watching it.

                                              [–]CommanderArcheri5 phanteks enthoo pro Asus z97 A 34ポイント35ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                              he probably doesnt have the greatest rig, looks like bad frames.

                                              [–]RagnarokDelI5 4670k | HD7990 + r9 270x | 16 GB HyperX 1866 | 120 gb SSD 53ポイント54ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                              even if he has a decent rig to play the game itself, his processor might just bleed while encoding and playing the game at the same time

                                              [–]CommanderArcheri5 phanteks enthoo pro Asus z97 A 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              yeah, thats also a high probability.

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                                                [–]arbiter8837not worth any [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                yeah i think during the start he says something about it being 7 fps, his videos I've seen have been decent fps so maybe something was up.

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                                                  [–]londonagain 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  He talks so much shit during this video. Is this his youtube personality? Where does he talk about "corrupting the files upon extraction!"? I'm trying to find the details of what exactly he's doing there.

                                                  [–]johncarter10 24ポイント25ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                  He is right to be pissed, but man he sure comes off as a childish dick in that video.

                                                  [–]Your401KplanGTX 970 14ポイント15ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                  I think he took it well, someone stole his hard work, put it somewhere he didn't want it, then made money off of it. If that happened to me I would not take it as well as he had.

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                                                      [–]NINJAFISTERRadeon 7790 and some crappy amd cpu (sounds like a jet engine) 66ポイント67ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                      If bethesda wants people to keep creating mods for them they should do something about it. As small as just giving credit.

                                                      [–]GreekAnalyzer 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      something akin to Minecraft

                                                      Minecraft has a great modding community actually. Very vibrant and diverse with a large community over at r/feedthebeast.

                                                      [–]Geotan00 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Minecraft compared to Bethesda modding is relatively small, but generally well-known mods have quality and time/effort that are through the roof in comparison (not saying many Skyrim/FO mods are not quality, just that in comparison to Minecraft mods the smaller Bethesda mods are almost wimpy). Plus think that there is no API to start with, most mods go through 3rd party APIs and they have to decompile the game themselves.

                                                      [–]I-iz-Rattyhttp://i.imgur.com/zNfezwI.png 176ポイント177ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                      sigh that's just sh*tty. Not surprising though.

                                                      [–]Ew_E50MSpecs/Imgur here 85ポイント86ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      and with skyrim paid mods people sold others mods/code for profit. Assholes are a universal thing.

                                                      [–]old_grumpy_grandpa 50ポイント51ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      You can say naughty words on the interwebs you poopy head

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                                                        [–]zahershhadea small peek won't hurt ( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬ 527ポイント528ポイント  (52子コメント)

                                                        Make every single mod FOSE dependant even the slightest bit, and fuck console scrubs.

                                                        Ez.

                                                        [–]Reddaksi5 6500 / 8GB RAM / 256GB SSD / 512 GB HDD 209ポイント210ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                        Most fun mods are or will be dependent on it, don't worry.

                                                        [–]zahershhadea small peek won't hurt ( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬ 32ポイント33ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                        not really but i hope so

                                                        [–]Gandalfs_BeardSpecs/Imgur here 89ポイント90ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                        It's true at least for Skyrim. If you want a mod that affects npcs or can do anything remotely interesting mechanics wise then you're going to need a script extender.

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                                                          [–]jakwndSpecs/Imgur here 51ポイント52ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                          What does FOSE mean? A google didnt give me a good hit right away and I'm a PCMR scrub.

                                                          [–]zahershhadea small peek won't hurt ( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬ 151ポイント152ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          Fallout Script Extender, doesnt work on consoles

                                                          [–]saberus 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Worked for ES. Go for it modders!

                                                          [–]FlamingJadeSorry, PC is better, but I am peasantish enough to like Nintendo 29ポイント30ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                          Never played Fallout so I may be wrong but from what I saw it's an unofficial add-on that allows modders more freedom in what they can make.

                                                          [–]HoplooExclusives are a plague. 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I'd say it's more functionality on a much easier level than more freedom personally, but you have just about the right idea.

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                                                            [–]jimbot70i5 4690k - GTX 970 - 16gb 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Fallout 4 is F4SE(if you want to install it) just so you know. FOSE is for Fallout 3 and NVSE is for Fallout: New Vegas. It basically lets modders have access to more complicated things that the base game doesn't support such as re-enabling achievements in Fallout 4 if you use mods or the console.

                                                            [–]vivomancer4K i7 6700 GTX 980 TI SLI 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            FallOut Script Extender

                                                            [–]SuperAliBabai7-4790k, EVGA GTX 980 ti Hybrid, 24GBs RAM 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Fallout Script Extender

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                                                              [–]xX_Metal48_XxIntel Celeron N2820, 4GB RAM (i cri everytiem) 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              I second this

                                                              [–]galenwolfi5 4570 | HD7970 Ghz Ed | 16GB RAM 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                              Yep, this is how it is coming to end up being and there is nothing Beth or thieves can do to stop it.

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                                                                [–]CommanderArcheri5 phanteks enthoo pro Asus z97 A 46ポイント47ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                                                Welp, time to bring out the pitch forks again

                                                                [–]Herculefreezystari5 4690k | R9 290 | 16gb ram 30ポイント31ポイント  (31子コメント)

                                                                Paging /u/pitchforkemporium

                                                                [–]PitchforkEmporium 63ポイント64ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                                                Howdy

                                                                [–]DHM_Steam ID Here 36ポイント37ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                                What kind of pitchforks you got for sale today?

                                                                [–]PitchforkEmporium 131ポイント132ポイント  (28子コメント)

                                                                USB forks

                                                                ------=

                                                                PC Master Race Edition Forks

                                                                --PC--E

                                                                Or if you wanna get heated we got Nvidia forks

                                                                -----[√π]

                                                                [–]DHM_Steam ID Here 42ポイント43ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                heated

                                                                slow clap

                                                                [–]Heavygunner1996 19ポイント20ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                If I use that USB fork, do I need to insert it the right way? With my luck it's always in the wrong position on the first try. :(

                                                                [–]CreateszSpecs/Imgur Here 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Those nvidia forks look so good

                                                                [–]PitchforkEmporium 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Fresh and hot off the press

                                                                [–]waterlubber42R9 270X, FX 4300 @ 4.2GHz, Glorious Debian 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                Can I get a PCI-E fork and Southbridge fork?

                                                                Got some peasant souls here:
                                                                [°.°] [°•°] [°o°]

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                                                                  [–]Devavres 30ポイント31ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                  I think we will find that instances such as this will be common, and evidence that Bethesda learned nothing from the 'paid mods' debacle, having still failed to address one of the most glaring issues modders and users had, still failing to implement any QC or property protection in their personal walled garden.

                                                                  [–]xX_Metal48_XxIntel Celeron N2820, 4GB RAM (i cri everytiem) 278ポイント279ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                  First it's "ermegersh muds r 4 haxors"

                                                                  Now it's "huehuehue take dat peecee mustard race wii stol ur muds loooooo...l!!!1!!11!1!1!!!!one!1!1!11!"

                                                                  [–]Dark_EarthI'm a computer, stop all the downloadin' 80ポイント81ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                  I was hoping for 'pee sea' upon reading this. That's what I like to call it.

                                                                  [–]tombueForced to use Windows 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  Totally gonna steal that. I'm sorry, but I can't resist.

                                                                  [–]Mugilicioushttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198038653621 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                  What are you, some kind of console modder ?

                                                                  [–]tombueForced to use Windows 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  I have a confession to make.

                                                                  I'm actually part of the Console Master Race. XBone and PayStation is way better than PC.

                                                                  Just joking, I'm just someone who likes to steal words.

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                                                                      [–]nnytmmSpecs/Imgur Here 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      All ur muds r belong to us.

                                                                      [–]Root1764005960x, Titan X, 3x1440p@Gsync 40ポイント41ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      Yes, everyone said this would happen as soon as console mods were announced.

                                                                      [–]KardestKardes 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      It's the same shit that happened with steam paid mods.

                                                                      No surprise at all.

                                                                      [–]Ze_YetiGL552VW DH71 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                      What an ignorant POS

                                                                      [–]FuturesticTransitioning to PC 132ポイント133ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                      Disgusting first we have the exclusive oculus war brought from the console to us. Now they took something that is very important and special to us and brought their own console war spin to it. When does it stop. Can't they just leave it alone and work on their own code or maybe even just ask if you can use their mods most people would say yes as long as they get credit. It's not that hard!

                                                                      [–]Linux_PCMRSpecs/Imgur here[🍰] 45ポイント46ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                      GFWL was Satan GFWL 2 (Windows Store) is Satans butthole

                                                                      [–]VercciThe Dong Has Expanded 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                      Soo....better or worse?

                                                                      [–]PaulTheMerc4790k @ 4.0/EVGA 650/16GB RAM/850 PRO 256GB 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      more locked down so...How tight do you like it to be?

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                                                                          [–]kyat13i5 3.4ghz, 16GB, GTX760 OC 120ポイント121ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                                                          Wow... I was planning on creating a mod for FO4 this summer, even considered porting it to consoles after I'm finished, but I don't know if I'd be willing to deal with this kind of community. A crappy and entitled community is one thing, but I won't support theft.

                                                                          [–]Axerivasi5 4570 @ 3.2 Ghz/ GTX 970 Strix/ 16GB RAM 20ポイント21ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                          How hard is it to create a mod? I sort of want to make a new gun

                                                                          [–]kyat13i5 3.4ghz, 16GB, GTX760 OC 42ポイント43ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                          I've tried to make a couple in the past but never ended up finishing them. If you have a solid idea in what you want to create, then it's actually pretty easy (and fun).

                                                                          [–]Axerivasi5 4570 @ 3.2 Ghz/ GTX 970 Strix/ 16GB RAM 28ポイント29ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                          I had the creation kit for FO4 but it seems to be way more complex than Skyrim's

                                                                          [–]zahershhadea small peek won't hurt ( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬ 26ポイント27ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                          same shitty engine, so i doubt it's hard

                                                                          [–]Sergiotor9MSI GE60 0ND 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                          I would think a shitty engine would be harder to develop things for.

                                                                          [–]zahershhadea small peek won't hurt ( ͡° ͜ʖ├┬┴┬ 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          i meant creation kit, it's still the same

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                                                                            [–]tombueForced to use Windows 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            It totally depends on what exactly you wanna do. I modded some things in Oblivion myself, but used existing textures (so mostly weapons/armour with different stats and effects) and it took like 10-15 minutes.

                                                                            If you want to design your own weapon textures, animations and scripts, it'll take way longer, especially if you're unexperienced.

                                                                            [–]Nytrai7 4770k@4.3GHz + H100i | GTX 780 | 32GB RAM | Win10 + Arch 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                            The time consuming part is creating the weapon model and textures. Actually putting it in the game is really easy because of the Creation Kit.

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                                                                              [–]Bozzz1GTX 770, i5-4670k, terrible internet 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                              The Fallout 4 Nexus is still the biggest place to get FO4 mods and that will always remain PC exclusive so you won't have to worry about the army of plebs there.

                                                                              [–]Snarf505 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                              There's crappy and entitled people in every community. Check out any modding scene and you will see. Don't let idiots stop you from sharing your work to the ones that actually care.

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                                                                                [–]Tempest2282spoopy4u 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Why would you expect anything different from Bethesda? They show they don't care about this stuff. This same thing happened when paid mods showed up on steam.

                                                                                [–]TimmyKilSTEAM_0:0:44263455 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                When a mod creator needs DRM things have became filthy

                                                                                [–]kayonesofti7-6700k, 32GB DDR4 3200, GTX 1080 FE 41ポイント42ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                There are so many arguments about copyright and fair use in here I think we need a /u/VideoGameAttorney to weigh in.

                                                                                [–]Lolsternater 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                I think he's busy dealing with that Youtube sue at the moment. Best let him be.

                                                                                [–]FlukyS 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                I'm not VideoGameAttorny but here:

                                                                                1. It has nothing to do with fair use.
                                                                                2. The code for the mod itself can have a license, if they didn't put a license on it then they still have rights to their own code. So for instance the creators of Dota1 have all rights to the code written, not Blizzard.
                                                                                3. It depends on Bethesda's terms of service. It hasn't been tested in court but a company can claim they own all mods created for their platform. I would bet point number 2 still holds and the person who creates it retains the rights but the company can remove their license for breach of ToS in that case.

                                                                                [–]Keksus_Specs/Imgur here 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                I want to hear the creators rant, but him playing while talking is REALLY distracting and annoying, as he always stops talking to comment his gameplay...

                                                                                [–]MatRicX 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                Fuck this man...I was excited for mods on the Xbox because its something new that hasn't really been done officially before. On the bright side shit like this is probably just a minor hiccup that will be ironed out.

                                                                                I can't wait to buy the game again on my PC eventually. I wish I didn't have to pay twice but damn PC runs so much better

                                                                                [–]senorbolsa2xGTX780 | i7 4820k @ 4.5ghz | 1440p Korean 100hz 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                I'm crying, this guy, "go slap the shit out of your parents for me".

                                                                                Really want that UMP tho.

                                                                                [–]ddproductions83 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                Well someone needs to be punished

                                                                                [–]senorbolsa2xGTX780 | i7 4820k @ 4.5ghz | 1440p Korean 100hz 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                Haha, yeah I like your style I donated 5 bucks. Your mods are pretty neat and I think I've used a few of them before =D

                                                                                Edit: downvoted to making a small donation to a good modder? thanks guys If you check out his Nexus page you will see why I donated, the guy works crazy hard on his mods and asks for nothing in return.

                                                                                [–]GoldenLeadFX-6300 | R7 250 | 8GB 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                The only way to solve this problem is to release a mod bigger than 2GB, try stealing that.

                                                                                [–]Nytrai7 4770k@4.3GHz + H100i | GTX 780 | 32GB RAM | Win10 + Arch 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                0.01GB of mod, 1.99GB of text saying "FUCK CONSOLES"

                                                                                [–]GoldenLeadFX-6300 | R7 250 | 8GB 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                And titled "GODMODE ALL CHEATS FAST XP!"

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                                                                                  [–]largehoman 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  Oh you mean that thing that was obviously going to happen super quickly? They don't get how the community works, most of them probably don't understand they are getting hundreds to thousands of hours of hard work when they install a mod. They just wan't the mod.

                                                                                  Edit: Also, just to clarify. I am not condoning their shitty bullshit. I'm just saying I saw it coming when it was first announced they were going to support consoles.

                                                                                  [–]Anub-arak 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  10/10 way to make people stop making mods or making them exclusive.

                                                                                  [–]makeswordcloudsagainDedicated Server-chan 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  Here is a word cloud of every comment in this thread, as of this time: http://i.imgur.com/s8ivqoY.jpg

                                                                                  [source code] [contact developer] [request word cloud]

                                                                                  [–]shadowX015ShadowX_0 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                  If this happens again, send a DMCA takedown. The mod is still hosted online so I don't see why it wouldn't be applicable.

                                                                                  [–]SubZeroWalrusFX-8350 | 8Gb RAM | MSI GTX 780 | Samsung 850 EVO 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  And so it begins :(

                                                                                  [–]ConkerBirdyi7 4790K | GTX 780 Ti 81ポイント82ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                                                  And this is why they shouldnt have fucking mods in the first place.

                                                                                  Colour me not surprised at all.

                                                                                  [–]teaoverlord 57ポイント58ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                  Mod compilations without permission happen on PC too.

                                                                                  [–]ConkerBirdyi7 4790K | GTX 780 Ti 77ポイント78ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                                  Yeah, but theyre dealt with relatively fast. On the Bethesda site, the modding community has very little control.

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                                                                                    [–]Luminous_FantasySTEAM_0:0:38952797 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                    The entitlement of these fuckers is crazy. Bethesda is tooting their own horn by saying it had 50x as many users. No shit, people are torrenting the game on PC, and people know nexus is far superior.

                                                                                    [–]FootPoot 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    It is amazing that people are so entitled BEFORE they even receive something. They are just now starting to touch mod support for console and everyone is just being a cry baby. There was no support before. Now they just have to wait a little longer to enjoy it, but no.

                                                                                    Like he said, no one is going to stick around to make mods for consoles. They will ruin it for themselves, which is actually really sad. There are probably tons of patient people who are willing to wait quietly and respect modders, but they will honestly be flushed with the rest of them.

                                                                                    [–]Furadon 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                    I love how he hates the guy for his 'PC elitism' and is the main reason for him to provide the mod on xBone, but at the same time tells people to blame the original modder for eventual save errors.

                                                                                    What an asshole.

                                                                                    [–]Klexos 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    he taints daggerfall with his ignorance

                                                                                    [–]Nytrai7 4770k@4.3GHz + H100i | GTX 780 | 32GB RAM | Win10 + Arch 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    People this stupid should be locked up for their own safety.

                                                                                    [–]Cheeki_Breeki_Banditwhat r u fukin gay? 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    just wait, someone will bribe a mod author for a mod to be exclusive to their platform

                                                                                    [–]centersolaceOnce a Mac Heathen, always a Mac Heathen. 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Well this was predictable.

                                                                                    [–]DankMemeZWetDreamZSpecs/Imgur here 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Soooo they kept saying that mods are cheats for years, now they beg for them. And now they started stealing them? Guess they didn't know about the old saying "Karma's a bitch". I hope they are enjoying their broken saves.

                                                                                    [–]txterGTX980 i7 4790k 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    No surprise, these fucking kids are brainwashed by ign and kotaku and all these aids gaming journalism websites who are on sonys and microsoft's pro console payroll

                                                                                    [–]SlothyGaming/id/SlothyGaming 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                    Is it possible to use the scripting language built into the game to figure out what the host system is? Would be neat to catch that it's a console and just crash the game.

                                                                                    [–]ddproductions83 42ポイント43ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                    Yes, and we are now considering ways to popup messages for stolen content

                                                                                    [–]Pauller00STEAM_0:0:26426413 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                    Nice to see you popup in here. I have no clue about modding but couldn't you make all your mods require FOSE for something tiny? Or if you do make pop ups, please make it a countdown with a warning to deinstall the mod in 60 seconds and if they don't fill the entire map with Deathclaws/watermelons.

                                                                                    [–]royalewitcheezConsoles are ok too 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Or just lag them out with the fog from Far Harbor.

                                                                                    [–]ddproductions83 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                    Making a extra dependency is bad form. There is actually detect commands for consoles we can abuse pretty easy

                                                                                    I also can't post on shitoutmods anymore because people apparently spam reported me so much for any comment that the no spine owner banned me to save a headache rofl. Banning prolific mod authors gg Reddit dedicated to mods lulz

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                                                                                      [–]Crozzy75i5 6500 - R9 380 - 8gb ram - ASRock H170 - Evga 650 psu 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      That guy who stole it is such a dick

                                                                                      [–]Lambert2191FX 8350, Sapphire r9 390, 8gb RAM 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                      I wish he wasn't playing at the time of making the video... holy shit stay on topic

                                                                                      [–]d3monfiend 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      I have never seen such shitty peasants before. Say console is greater but still have to port mod from PC. noobshit asshole with no logic.

                                                                                      [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      Piece of shit thief!

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