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[Transfer Round Up & Discussion] June 1st (self.reddevils)

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Guess who's back...

Yep. Silly season has returned for the 4th summer on /r/reddevils!

Most of you know the drill.

For those who don't...From today until the window closes, a transfer round-up & discussion thread will be made every day. In these threads, ANYTHING can be talked about. Any player, in or out, any transfer fee, anything!

Now, with these threads starting, this means that rumours submitted as seperate posts will be removed unless they are from reliable sources!

The transfer window opens in 30 days

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[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea 61ポイント62ポイント  (5子コメント)

Night gathers, and now my transfer watch begins. It shall not end until September. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my midnight post. I am the mod in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Transfer Watch, for this night and all the nights to come. Until September.

[–]mu_37Martial 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

a man is dedicated.

[–]rk_metalsnowJosé Mourinho™ 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ser Pat of House Pedant

Words: "Sneijder isn't coming"

[–]Jamil_manuHerrera 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

For the night is dark and full of transfer rumours.

[–]AdamSmith95Martial 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

*bullshit, the nights full of bullshit

[–]iflythewafflecopterSpanish Llama 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"You're a muppet. The Three Lions have waged war against these savages for centuries and here I sit hosting one in my subreddit, thanks to clickbait journalism."

[–]mu_37Martial 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

AKA the end of shitposting

[–]cookie1254Rafael 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

You really think the shitposting is going to stop?

[–]TylerGuest1Rooney 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think where we may see a decline in shitposts, ones that do get posted will be even shittier than usual.

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're harsher on transfer related shitposts now that these threads are up

[–]asteroid_puncher 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

My prediction is Zlatan, Gomes, Manolas and Sane. Maybe James if he really is up for a move but I doubt he will go.

[–]ZoidbergTheHeroMartial 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would be my best guess at the moment too and I think I'd be quite happy with that as well. But as usual, the targets we a reportedly are after at the beginning of the window changes drastically from those we actually get / are linked with by the end of August, so I probably won't be putting any money on anything.

[–]syedwajeeehRASHFORD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leroy Sane? The one from Schalke? I doubt it. That kid will end up at Bayern fo sho

[–]ssb5107Herrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This will be perfect

[–]asteroid_puncher 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

Honestly I'd be disappointed if Blind went to Barca for the fee being touted. Would much rather have him stick around as a backup here, feel he gets underrated a lot because he can play more than one position

[–]cookie1254Rafael 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Completely agree. €18m is less than we bought him for, it would be ridiculous to sell him for that little.

[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's £18 million no?

[–]cookie1254Rafael 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

A Spanish paper reported it, you'd expect the figure given to be in euros.

[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If the reported fee is €18 million I doubt there's any substance to the deal at all. Far too low

[–]bockers 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would love the James signing, even if the figure is a little higher than I'd want. He's going to be the best player the club can realistically pull this Summer. He can be world class.

[–]seihandaShaw 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Zlatan for free agent striker

1 strong tall CB : Varane, Stones, Manolas, etc

1 RW or CAM : James, Willian, Griezman, etc

Maybe extra CM if we have spare money then sell some players

[–]IwanJones10Martial 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just realized it's June, holy shit. IT'S ON!

[–]asteroid_puncher 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thoughts on Miralem Pjanic? Apparently he has a €38m release clause in his contract, we haven't really been linked but personally I would love him.

[–]boyCunt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hear he's linked with juventus

[–]cookie1254Rafael 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are there any decent free agents available this window? Apart from Ibrahimovic obviously.

[–]cadallimore 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

Do people have thoughts on the RW position?

Personally, I'd love to see us sign a RW that can do a solid shift defensively as well as offensively - someone that can play the role Willian played at Chelsea under Mourinho in their title season.

I think Mane would be a good option, and achievable early-ish in the window if we stump the cash.

[–]asteroid_puncher 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Barring griezmann there's not really anyone established I would like. Mane seems a bit hot and cold to me.

Would love for us to take a punt on someone like Sane or Gabriel Barbosa, although not really Mou's style.

[–]cadallimore 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've not watched Barbosa, but Sane is obviously a great prospect. However, we would need to seriously strengthen the spine of our team if we plan on playing 2-3 prospects in key positions (Martial at LW, Sane at RW and then ST for Rashford whenever he gets game time).

As for Griez, he's a gun but I'd prefer to play him in his second striker position rather than move him to RW - I know he does play there, but I think he is best for Atleti behind the striker.

[–]Jono56Wayne Rooooney! 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sure Mane isn't a big name but the lad puts a shift in, scores roughly 10 prem goals a season has an almost 1/2 goalscoring record across his career, never gets injured and is still very young at 24. Honestly him and players like bolasie go underated due to the calibre of their club but considering if we could get mane cheap, id have him immediately.

[–]asteroid_puncher 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

What would you regard as cheap for Mane?

[–]Jono56Wayne Rooooney! 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd probably go up to 20-25 mil considering young age and prem proven to a certain extent, if I start hearing 35 mil plus cant justify it though as we could get a top player with a few seasons in him and let a lingard etc rotate with them

[–]cadallimore 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely. It's pretty tough to find players that are dependable and yet can still have the ability to change a game.

Although, I don't think we can get him cheap, but that's just the consequence of us being rich - I'd say 30m, and would be happy with that.

[–]drivinganindievanScholesy 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

So with AS Roma finalizing their deal for Antonio Rudigier, do you all think that opens the door for us getting Manolas? Or at least makes the rumors more likely?

[–]cookie1254Rafael 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

He was already on loan at Roma wasn't he? I don't think it changes things too much if that's the case.

[–]drivinganindievanScholesy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was on loan with the option to buy, as per Italian law of course. I think with them activating the purchase clause, though, that there is more of a chance of one of their other CB's leaving. With the addition Rudigier, they have 4 other established CB's in Castán, Manolas, Zukanović, and Torosidis (who isn't strictly a CB but fills in as needed). I can see one of the four leaving, as 5 CB's is a lot.

[–]bockers 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Changes nothing. The 50% selling fee Roma owe to his previous club is still the main thing standing in the way of a deal.

[–]xtphty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What we need most this transfer season is experienced players. Current squad has a lot of potential in youth, and I feel one of the biggest problems LVG faced in developing that potential was stability. We need stable proven talent to fill the major lacking positions of CB CAM and CF, and allow the youth talent to build around that backbone

[–]Crusty_Gammon_Flaps 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We all know we are definitely signing Sneijder and Gatian this year.

[–]spoofexKing Cantona[M] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hi all,

Following on from our 'State of the Sub' catch-ups. Multiple people have called for a couple of relegations in the Reliability Tier Guide. As such the following relegations have occured:

  • Sky Sports (UK) are now considered Tier 3. They are not permitted to be posted as a link in peak times on the Sub during the transfer window.

  • Sid Lowe has dropped from Tier 1 to Tier 2. He may be posted at any time. The reason for the drop is that; rightly pointed out; he rarely involves himself with United talk, so he shouldn't be gospel when he speaks (and not more so than Boufashi)

  • Andy Mitten has been dropped to Tier 4. He may not be posted at ANY time as a standalone link on the sub during the transfer window, and should be kept to these discussion threads only. His reliability has been in question for some time; and count-in that he know rights for less than stellar sites (ESPN) and has his own pay-walled site, and he has taken a step down the list.

The reliability guide can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/wiki/transfer-reliability-guide Only Tiers 0-2 should be getting there own posts outside of these threads. We may relax to allow for Tier 3 on quieter days/mid-Euros, but we'll see how it goes. If someone/a site is missing from the guide. Message me and I'll add it in after deciding where it should sit. We'll re-review the Tiers after the window closes.

Thanks to all those who chimed in! Happy Transfer Window you filthy F5 whores!

[–]bockers 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can Mitten's other work that isn't transfer related still be posted? Like the interviews and features he does.

[–]TylerGuest1Rooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

So how many players considered "world class" will be on the market this transfer window?

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think James Rodriguez would be up for a move.

[–]TylerGuest1Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'd like to see him here for the right price. I just think 80 million is a steep price to pay for someone who has never played in the EPL.

[–]mrpiggywinkles52Rooney 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think fuck it. On one hand if we sign Zlatan you can say we'd be paying 80 for a striker and a 10 both of which we need anyways so think of it as the money saved on him.

Honestly we have the money to do it. City are going to be splashing the cash and so should we. If it helps us get back to the top (which James would) then let's just fucking go for it

[–]seihandaShaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

exactly. as long as james want to move we will buy him

[–]spoofexKing Cantona 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

James Rodriguez, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Ilkay Gundogan, Toni Kroos.

How many will we get? Who the fuck knows at this point. Maybe Ibra.

[–]TylerGuest1Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If love to have Kroos at United. Doubt he'd want to come here though.

[–]jonnyshHerrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Half of me wants United to sign a bunch of A-list superstars and win everything.... the other half of me wants us to not make any signings at all and just see the squad improve dramatically as they learn to adhere to Mourinho's philosophy mentality.

[–]TylerGuest1Rooney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd be fine with both

[–]Therinn 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

My prediction: No big name big money transfers this season. Big money or big name, not both, so no James/Griezmann etc. Zlatan doesn't come either. We get a CB as priority then whatever quality is available at the right price.

[–]BloodyMess111 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

What makes you think that?

[–]the_trainmanRooney 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a similar feeling - we might get a couple of players, 3 if we sell some, a CB and a winger. Both might not be at a world-class level but will be upgrades on what we have and just like Mourinho's first season at Chelsea, he'll focus more on bringing tactical stability, getting into the Champions League and winning a trophy.

[–]bockers 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There will be at least one big name signing.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (41子コメント)

I think Dave will leave this summer. I think it'll be very quick as soon as the window opens.

[–]Pedantic_PatFan Favourite David De Gea 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nope. No way. Dave stays. Zlatan Gomes CB and RW in. And nothing bad happens. Nothinggggggg

[–]TylerGuest1Rooney 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like your optimism

[–]manudevil7Beckham 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I disagree. I think De Gea will stay, since we have Mourinho now. Also, I think Zidane will be given the freedom over how the RM squad is changed over the summer. With Madrid's looming transfer ban, they will be looking to add depth in other positions, aside from goalkeeper.

Zidane holds power at Madrid, at least for now. He was a legend as a player, won the UCL as a manager, and that will give him freedom with the squad.

Furthermore, the Madrid fans want Navas to stay, and Zidane has made it clear he wants Navas as his number one option.

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd love for you to be right. Doesn't change that Dave is 4 years younger and Spain's #1. And Madrid got royally embarrassed last summer.

[–]the_trainmanRooney 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the contrary, I think that he might stay for one more season - just to see where United goes w/ Mourinho. If LVG would've stayed, I'd bet my life's savings on DDG leaving but now things are a bit different.

Although I do feel what must have gone through his mind when RM won the Champion's league...

[–]F90Giggs 2ポイント3ポイント  (32子コメント)

Navas in?

[–]D1794Viva Ronaldo[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (31子コメント)

I'd like to think so. IDK who we'd replace him with otherwise.

[–]BloodyMess111 7ポイント8ポイント  (16子コメント)

It seemed clear last summer Navas doesn't want to come to Utd, I'd prefer not to have a player that doesn't want to be here.

[–]PhilJonesIsTheGOATPhil Jones (AKA The GOAT) 3ポイント4ポイント  (15子コメント)

why?

[–]BloodyMess111 3ポイント4ポイント  (14子コメント)

I don't know, I've never met the guy. But by all accounts he was in tears at the prospect of joining us/leaving Madrid.

[–]PhilJonesIsTheGOATPhil Jones (AKA The GOAT) 3ポイント4ポイント  (13子コメント)

He was? i dont rememeber it like that at all, source?

[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/real-madrid-keylor-navas-was-tears-over-proposed-manchester-united-move-david-de-gea-swap-1520675

[–]jbiresqHerrera -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11881761/Keylor-Navas-left-in-tears-at-the-airport-after-Manchester-United-move-fell-through.html

Not sure if he cried because he was sad it didn't go through or because he was happy it didn't go through.

[–]BloodyMess111 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's said he was in tears because of the emotional turmoil of the situation and he didn't want to leave Madrid as he considers it home.

[–]jbiresqHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah. So weird how the Telegraph doesn't include the most relevant quotes:

'I cried that night when I found out I was staying, it was a build-up of emotions. I didn't want to leave, Madrid is my home,' Navas told Spanish radio station Cadena COPE.

He added: 'I never wanted to leave Real Madrid. My agent told me to be alert to my phone.

[–]PhilJonesIsTheGOATPhil Jones (AKA The GOAT) 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Article made it out as if he was just extremely stressed out and cried, but you never know your opinion is also very valid.

[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

It doesn't give the full quotes.

"I cried that night when I found out I was staying, it was a build-up of emotions. I didn't want to leave, Madrid is my home,' Navas told Spanish radio station Cadena COPE.

He added: 'I never wanted to leave Real Madrid. My agent told me to be alert to my phone. We had to go to Barajas, although I never actually got on a plane, I was in a waiting room.

[–]knoxisbackDe Gea 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Handanovic, Mandanda, Leno, Oblak, Butland are all other options

[–]ssb5107Herrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No where close to our king!

[–]asteroid_puncher 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Were some tenuous rumors surrounding Oblak last summer

[–]NihilistGuy7 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

please no, we would be fucked in penalties, Oblak would either stay rooted in the middle or dive to his right , never going to his left.Very Predictable.

[–]danc906Schweinsteiger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kasper Schmeichel? Not a hope but just a guess if DDG leaves

[–]seihandaShaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jack Butland. If dave ever go i will splash 20M for Butland

[–]doesnt_like_pantsHerrera -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Butland or Pickford for me.

[–]BloodyMess111 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Pickford?! He played 2 games for Sunderland last season! You want to replace the best keeper in the world with Sunderlands backup?

[–]doesnt_like_pantsHerrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, he's gonna be phenomenal, I stand by it.

[–]BloodyMess111 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's been said about every young English goalkeeper since Chris Kirkland.

[–]cookie1254Rafael 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pickford isn't even first choice for Sunderland yet, it'd be a bit early for him to be first choice at United imo.

[–]rk_metalsnowJosé Mourinho™ -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Schmeichel?

[–]NihilistGuy7 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but why would he leave the Champions of England And the Champions League for Europa lol

[–]rk_metalsnowJosé Mourinho™ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He loves United or so I've heard, he'd be giving up a lot were he to leave this summer, but he would gain a lot from joining us too.

[–]cadallimore 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you might be right, but I really hope not.

My only consolation is that, with Mourinho, we'll likely sign a proper CB and play two CDMs in midfield, which should at least alleviate the loss.

[–]evanm316Park Ji-Sung 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Didn't ZZ come out and say Navas was his man? Try just won a CL final for shits sake. Don't think they're gonna toss Navas now.

[–]PmMeUrGrammerMistake 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What? This source states that Zidane thinks Navas is the main man.

[–]DannyLPA7xJose Mourinho 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Am I the only one that wants Howedes in? 28yo very experienced solid CB that wont cost too much.

Other than that, 2 players that are an absolute must: Gomes and Zlatan

[–]IwanJones10Martial 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Howedes is 28? I've been against signing him because I thought he was like 35 lmao

[–]ElocOfTheNorth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Off we go lads!

[–]MushroomBotHernández 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No im not ready

[–]mccoates329 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we'll be selling someone before we buy someone, and I believe that we're only going to be able to fill one of our necessary spots to someone who we can fit into the first XI. I think Mata, Rojo and Wilson get moved on, and we bring in either Manolas or another CB who we haven't yet been linked to(I know that opens a ginormous range of CB's but I can't think of who in my minds eye right now). Then the striker position and right side are left to see if Jose can turn Januzaj/Memphis into world beaters. Then if not, Jose will assess it again in January.

[–]ttjoelkerMemphis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So anybody heard anything about this Sneijder guy? He's been linked with United a few times, I'm just curious as to everyone's thoughts!

[–]SakuraaaaaaaaaKagawa 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yuto Nagatomo said in an interview last January that he rejected a move to us. Not sure if we're still in for him and if he'd change his mind since it's now Jose at the helm but I'd love that energy, speed and drive of his on the left (even if he wanders forward a little too much every now and then). I 'd say he would be a nice backup to Shaw. Heck, he's also proven himself as a formidable right back as well, and his presence would definitely help the club in the Asian market.