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[Discussion]Mata/Schneiderlin/Herrera not in euros. Did they deserve it? (self.reddevils)

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[–]StannisJrScholesy 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

Of course not

[–]Kiddcohen39Ander Herrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

Pretty much. Schneiderlin you could barely try to make a case for and, even then, a weak one.

[–]BarbadosDMLord Scholes 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

You could not make a case for Schneiderlin at all. Kante, Diarra, Pogba and Matuidi are all miles above him on this seasons evidence.

Cabaye I am not sure about but he has been at a team that suits his level so he sticks out more.

[–]Kiddcohen39Ander Herrera -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Well yeah but if you agree that Cabaye can be argued out, which he absolutely could and should if not for Deschamp's bizarre infatuation with him, then you agree with my point. I agree with everything you said in regards to who's better that made the 23 and never said I didn't.

[–]BarbadosDMLord Scholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I never said you never said you didn't

[–]Kiddcohen39Ander Herrera -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well I essentially said Schneiderlin could be argued for over Cabaye and you essentially said "Schneiderlin could kind of be argued for over Cabaye." That's all I'm saying really.

[–]BarbadosDMLord Scholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I didn't, I said Cabaye is the only one of those who could be questioned. I didn't mean to imply It was for Schneriderlin to come in, I don't think Schneiderlin has been good enough to be considered at all

[–]Kiddcohen39Ander Herrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fair enough but Deschamps appears to share my view of Schneiderlin.

[–]BarbadosDMLord Scholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just see he got into the squad, very lucky because Diarra has been class this season.

Pleased for him though, even if it is lucky

[–]ateroPride of all Europe 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Annnnnnnd he's going now.

[–]Kiddcohen39Ander Herrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha yeah funny how that works isn't it?

[–]ijd17Uncle Ant 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Schneiderlin has just been called into the squad due to injury https://twitter.com/equipedefrance/status/737756369168785408

[–]legojs[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

whoa. is that possible even if u hand in your euro squad already?

Also whom is he replacing?

[–]ijd17Uncle Ant 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Diarra, he got injured so yes that is allowed, that's why they have a reserve list, so they can be easily called upon.

[–]kusendahlMartial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No.

[–]BloodyMess111 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Whose place in their respective teams would you suggest they take?

[–]Kiddcohen39Ander Herrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Tbf I don't think OP is suggesting they deserved (or didn't) to be in the sides, I think is asking us what we think.

[–]legojs[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

yeah, you're right. I don't think herrera should be in it but I think that schneiderlin and mata had a slight chance to be on the team - sissoko for schneiderlin and I really don't know for mata but mata could be a good squad player for spain if they still play their tiki taka plays (i have nt seen them play since the world cup failure so I wouldnt know)

[–]Livettletlive 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To me Mata usually performs for Spain, not one of their bests but he occasionally scores and his style suits Spain more.

Schneiderlin also plays well for France, not as flashy/impactive as Matuidi, Kante, Pogba--hell to me all French DMs are as offensive as they are defensive.

Schneiderlin this season has been very (too) disciplined defensively.

[–]BloodyMess111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I only asked because if the answer isn't obvious then they definitely shouldn't be going.

[–]Pigeon_AssholeBlind's Sexy Hair 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If they deserved to be included, they probably would.

[–]knoxisbackDe Gea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not necessarily. But in this case none of them deserved to be in the squad.

[–]Takley 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Feel sorry for multiple players having to be part of the shit served under LVG and the impact it is having.

[–]StannisJrScholesy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. Doesn't help his reputation but doesn't help theirs either. Not their fault they were forced to play in a system most of them aren't suited to.

[–]mu_37Martial 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

i think sissocko over Schneiderlin is just baffling.he didn't have a great season,but neither did Sissocko.

[–]BarbadosDMLord Scholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Sissoko is in the squad being listed in the midfield section but he is not the same type of player as Schneiderlin, so you can't say he was picked over Schneiderlin. I would have thought Kante was picked over him and rightly so

[–]mu_37Martial 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

i don't really watch France usually,where does Sissocko play in the midfield with them?

[–]BarbadosDMLord Scholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He can play anywhere off the front and sometimes is used as a box to box midfielder

[–]Livettletlive 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wilshere, to me, didn't deserve to be called over DW, but Wilshere has played at the highest level more often.

Sissocko has been playing for France a while before he went to Newcastle, and long before Schneiderlin.

[–]BarbadosDMLord Scholes 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Henderson was the one who did not deserve to be picked in my opinion. Players like Wilshere have obvious class but when you have a choice of a half fit Henderson, Wilshere and a fully fit Drinkwater, I would be taking Wilshere and Drinkwater

Not the same type of player either. Sissoko can used for attacking purposes as well

[–]Livettletlive 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not the same type of player either. Sissoko can used for attacking purposes as well.

Yeah, and I made the argument here, that put up against their DMs, he wouldn't have a chance.

Schneiderlin this season isn't remotely like those players.

Henderson v. Drinkwater, to me, can only go down to who can give better set pieces, because Hendo has been poor this season on the ball. Since England don't have Lampard and Gerard they need someone to fill the void, and I'd say Henderson is better in that aspect.

That's the only explanation I can fathom from England, gutted for Drinkwater, really.

[–]BarbadosDMLord Scholes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you bring set pieces into it then it would make more sense to take Henderson I guess. At the same time I will be quite annoyed if Henderson is taking set pieces, our squad really is lacking in that area