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[–]aanarchist 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

you're right though. most of the time if they're gonna argue with you it's because they're too fucking stupid to comprehend what you want them to understand. the people who are on the level don't need to be told shit.

[–]lemming1607[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

and they probably think the same of you. Whose right? Does it matter?

Only by living your ideals and showing that it's not a fantasy will you change minds

[–]1max_peenor 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there a judge? Is there a jury? Is there a deciding panel of some form? No? Then there is no point in arguing. There is nothing to win.

That said, a well delivered opinion can change minds. State your peace and move along.

[–]Throwaway244555 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I tell my self this all the time. Is it even worth arguing, and if I do what will gain from it? This is why I never argue.

[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can anyone really think of a time they changed anyone's fundamental core beliefs on an argument?

Couple of times off the top of my head... probably more. It's less fulfilling than you'd think.

I've never changed anyones mind by opening my mouth.

I have. I once turned half a room of so-called liberals who were initially opposed to interfering elsewhere in the world... into people who endorsed cold blooded murder just because I said it was the right thing to do. Don't underestimate the power of rhetoric. There's a reason Russell Brand infuriates people through his cretinous levels of intelligence... yet can command an audience brilliantly and seduce a level of woman that even the top guys here would nod respectfully at.

Anyhoo, the main thing I dropped in here to point out is that there's actually purpose to argumentation if you know what you're doing. It's the logical way in which we can discuss issues and gain intellectual growth. There's an old guide to this I wrote a while back in my submissions history if you're interested. I wrote this because most people suck at arguing... they don't actually understand what they're doing because we're never taught it at school. (But everyone thinks they're great lol.)

As you say though, keep it separate from your seduction. It doesn't belong there and will never help you... unless you're doing some sort of public debate in which case winning will give you massive conditional status boost (status trumps all) and you'll probably get hit on by some women from the audience after the event.

[–]mastercheifer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So if your volunteering and someone comes up and says "why do you volunteer" you just say nothing?

[–]lemming1607[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

depends on their non verbal. Are they being confrontational? thrn no I don't. If they're curious and want to get to know me better, I tell them I feel like I'm doing the right thing

[–]Ricardo_Machista 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Arguing is for the internet. Protect your anonymity. In real life, you have to play the game. Justin Trudeau is the most redpilled guy out there. Bitches love him.

[–]nsareadsmyemails 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This. I made a mistake AGAIN getting into an argument with SJW type feminists. Although I didn't lose frame, I should have just stayed quiet.

[–]NietzscheExplosion 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the last few years I've come to the same conclusion. Oddly, I find I can change peoples minds now.