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[–]jasonschreier 53ポイント54ポイント55ポイント 5日前 (96子コメント)
Hi guys! I'm the one who broke this story. I get that there's a lot of disappointment on this subreddit today (and rage at Kotaku, for some reason), but I'd recommend not getting your hopes up. I wouldn't have published the story if I weren't confident that it's true.
[–]morbidexpression 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 5日前 (0子コメント)
rational people know it's true by now, good work ferreting out the truth. If it wasn't true, they would've denied it by now. No way does Sony let the BBC run with this story otherwise.
Sorry about all the abuse, but I'm sure you've got several layers of thick skin by now.
[–]OnePrarieOutpost 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 5日前 (0子コメント)
I wouldn't have published the story if I weren't confident that it's true.
Not saying you are right or wrong - only stating the very true fact that people are never truthful with everything and anything.
[–]Kahzgul 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5日前 (0子コメント)
So can you confirm that the whole game launch is delayed vs. just the physical version of the game?
[–]omglolitsjf 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4日前 (4子コメント)
Any opinion on how your source jives with the potential leak of info from a Canadian EB Games that just received new marketing material with June 24th listed as the release date, putting it at just a 3-day delay in NA and pointing toward a global simultaneous release in line with the UK's current date? This also does not contradict Gamestop's marketing change, only the dates you had from your unnamed contact.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/4lb4nz/new_release_date_information/
https://imgur.com/a/fBSfR
[–]jasonschreier 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 4日前 (3子コメント)
Again, I'd say don't get your hopes up. I don't think that's accurate.
[+]omglolitsjf スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 4日前 (2子コメント)
Fair enough. I'm sure you understand that first-hand info from an employee (who accidentally uploaded a first picture with the address window of his paystub in plain view) with photographic evidence of an explicit minor date change is a bit more compelling than an unnamed source citing an almost unprecedented last-minute pushback by an undefined number of months without anything substantial to back it up.
[–]danposmaytee 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3日前 (1子コメント)
Looks like /u/jasonschreier was right after all - good work!
[+]omglolitsjf スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 3日前 (0子コメント)
That he was. The gloating is a little much (it's not like it's good news for anyone involved), but I guess it's easier to throw it to the whole sub than hunt down all the little idiots individually. I at least was civil about why he seemed less credible than what else we had at the time.
[–]DatChickenErnie -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
As much as I'd like to believe you, I'll wait from an answer from Hello Games. I have no reason to trust an article with two sources including one you won't spit out. I completely understand that you want to keep it private, but I, and other people will still wait for a 100% confirmed answer from Hello Games or Sony.
[+]Xellos77 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 5日前 (0子コメント)
I wouldn't say there's rage against Kotaku. Simply aversion to a fairly cheeky site. Everything I've ever looked up in terms of game Information leading there ends up being generic garbage or conjecture.
Official word has not been heard anywhere and all "proof" is pointing back to Kotaku's report. Which is based on a no-name GS employee and a mysterious reliable source. Meanwhile, nothing has changed anywhere in terms of release dates or anything else.
I'm not saying it's not true, just saying there's no proof. That, and Kotaku is a.. shall we say.. mediocre, at best, site. And I'm being generous. Sorry.
[+]CowTippinSloth スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15ポイント-14ポイント-13ポイント 5日前 (5子コメント)
What makes you so confident that it's true other than delusions stemming from your pride being on the line?
[–]ABitOfResignation 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 4日前 (4子コメント)
Because he's one of the best game journalists in the business being ragged on by a bunch of irrational redditors who don't understand confidentiality and some journalism-program dropout who knows how to operate a phone.
[+]CowTippinSloth スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 4日前 (3子コメント)
I'm not ragging on anyone, I'm being skeptical. How is that irrational?
[–]_Rogue_ 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 3日前 (2子コメント)
I'm not ragging on anyone other than delusions stemming from your pride being on the line
I'm not ragging on anyone
other than delusions stemming from your pride being on the line
[+]CowTippinSloth スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 3日前 (1子コメント)
If you think that's ragging you need to get out more buddy.
[–]Manticore416 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3日前 (0子コメント)
I don't think you know what ragging on someone means.
Besides, it's confirmed now.
[–]jah_92_rastafari -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
The main reason we're annoyed at kotaku is like previous stories regarding nms they say straight faced that it's fact and their not in the rumour business (even though until something is officially confirmed it's obviously a rumour)
I guess maybe they're being worms and when they say they deal in facts they mean they recieved an image from a gamestop employee so that's a fact, even though the story itself is a rumour.
Thanks for coming here and speaking up anyway.
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[–]mckinneymd 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5日前 (1子コメント)
Dude, this isn't instagram. Have some self-respect.
[+]Fight_Money スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 5日前 (0子コメント)
i aint got no god damn instagram wtf
[+]Gilchrist78[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-59ポイント-58ポイント-57ポイント 5日前 (55子コメント)
Then Jason I recommend you provide more than just your single source from Gamestop with a vague image attached. In 2 hours, I provided a complete assessment of the situation which you could have done if you hadn't rushed to publish.
A more interesting breaking-news article would have included the fact that the process through which this information is leaking is entirely unprecedented on several levels. Chief among those is that GameStop doesn't operate in the manner you've described and don't instruct their stores to act in the manner your source explained.
So you have 1 source in Gamestop. I have 30.
[–]MeetWayneKerr 60ポイント61ポイント62ポイント 4日前 (1子コメント)
In light of how wrong you were, you should apologize.
[–]Gkender 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
Agreed.
[–]jasonschreier 109ポイント110ポイント111ポイント 5日前* (44子コメント)
In 2 hours, I provided a complete assessment of the situation which you could have done if you hadn't rushed to publish.
You know nothing about how I operate or how this story was published. It was certainly not rushed. And even though you're being rude, I'll tell you the full story, in the interest of transparency. I first heard about the delay several weeks ago from a reliable source who I won't identify. I don't typically run news without at least two sources, so I sat on that information until I corroborated it with the GameStop marketing materials, which I verified carefully. This morning, another Redditor posted pictures of the same materials, adding further corroboration.
It's nice that you called a bunch of GameStops, but what you're missing here is that the information wasn't sent around in a memo or given directly to employees. It was buried in a marketing kit that was sent to managers this week, giving them a guide for materials to display from May 30-June 15. What's likely is that the employees you spoke to have no idea it even exists.
If you want to do some real legwork, go ahead and call your 30 GameStops and ask them to look in their managers' marketing kits for this image. I believe it's page 31? [EDIT: It's page 30. Just like your 30 sources!]
I understand that many of you guys would like to believe this isn't true, but getting your hopes up will make things worse. I imagine many of you aren't familiar with my work, but I take reporting very seriously, which is why I've broken news such as Assassin's Creed skipping 2016, Destiny 2 getting delayed to next year, the truth behind Blizzard's Project Titan, the demise of Phantom Dust, and much more. I don't run stories like this unless I've put in the work to make sure they're legitimate.
[–]DoctorWett 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 5日前 (2子コメント)
Honest question : Why would Sony wait several weeks before officially announcing that the game is delayed ?
[–]jasonschreier 24ポイント25ポイント26ポイント 5日前* (1子コメント)
Likely because they didn't have a concrete new date yet, and it'd be nuts to make the delay public without a new date. I'm still not sure they have a final date, which may be why both Sony and Hello Games have been so silent.
[–]micahlowens 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 5日前 (0子コメント)
Hi Jason,
Thank you for providing your honest story and information. Most of us would certainly rather not believe the information you shared, but we totally understand that you're just doing your job well and reporting credible info. While I honestly still hope that info turns out to be wrong, keep up the good work man and thanks for putting up with the hate!
[–]morbidexpression 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 5日前* (0子コメント)
I think I can see the smoking crater from here. Thanks for the details and keep up the good work!
You want to do some real investigative journalism? STAR CITIZEN. The thing is just waiting to be cracked open.
[–]Gkender 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
Thank you for your attention, here. I've been telling people for days not to shoot the Goddamn messenger. This detail's why I've come to respect your writing.
[–]Kuroodo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4日前 (6子コメント)
Any way you can validate the date of the marketing kit? https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13307211_607829369381390_2400166729518939545_n.jpg?oh=5007eddff18ebd28641cfa2e189d810b&oe=57CAF4C5
Could be an old one, maybe even from last year or something
[–]Kuroodo 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
I've been thinking.
You said you got the information a few weeks ago If that were true, then why do we still see June 21 written all over retail stores? Don't you tihnk that they would have changed the release date info EVERYWHERE?
Cause if the game was delayed and it was stated a few weeks ago, then it's false advertising to sell the game with a June 21 release date weeks later.
"let's delay the game, but not tell anyone till a few weeks later when it's nearing release"
I think it's just a GameStop issue tbh
[–]Kuroodo -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 4日前 (4子コメント)
Just realized something. It made me feel stupid, and is the main reason why this has gotten so big. WE ARE BLIND.
The GameStop marketing kit NEVER mentions a delay. Only a changed release date! This could mean anything. Could mean that the game is coming out earlier (E3?) or later.
[–]Gkender 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 4日前 (3子コメント)
This is not meant with antagonism, just curiosity, but can you name Any games that have come out earlier than their announced release date?
Nop. Can't recall any!
Only some Early Access indie games though (as in, they full released/got out of EA earlier than they had planned).
[–]_Rogue_ 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3日前 (1子コメント)
No reason to, if you announced a release date and still have development time, you just continue improving what you have.
[–]Gkender 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3日前 (0子コメント)
Exactly. From what I understand, games are never "done". Patches that go up once a game's live are just fixes that Would have been made pre-release so players'd never have to deal. No reason to release Early.
[+]tenebris_spiritus スコアが基準値未満のコメント-20ポイント-19ポイント-18ポイント 5日前 (18子コメント)
You're asking for a lot of trust. You won't reveal your source, so what is your source worth to me? Not much. The Gamestop marketing material is not available to most of us either. So really it's just you telling us that you're a good journalist.
Ok, well, thanks. I guess. But honestly, I don't feel like you've done any good here, just a lot of harm.
[–]GeodesicGnome 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 4日前 (13子コメント)
Why does he need to reveal his source? It's up to his source whether they want to be revealed or not -- and most of the time anonymous sources would rather stay nameless to protect themselves/their employment/livelihood, etc. This isn't anything new in any form of newsmedia. Schreier is respecting the right of his source to remain private in exchange for privileged information that helps him and his outlet break and develop a story.
[+]tenebris_spiritus スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15ポイント-14ポイント-13ポイント 4日前 (4子コメント)
A confidential source is the start of a story. It's not a story.
[–]GeodesicGnome 22ポイント23ポイント24ポイント 4日前 (1子コメント)
You're right.
The story here is that No Man's Sky is delayed. His Gamestop source plus one other (in addition to Techradar's two independent sources) have all made claims to support the story.
[–]Gkender 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
MIC FUCKING DROP DEEPER THAN DAT BASS THO
[+]jah_92_rastafari スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 4日前 (1子コメント)
Yep and yet they flat out said on twitter earlier. We don't deal in rumours we deal in facts. :P
Yes, and the Fact is that they heard this rumor from a variety of sources. They didn't create the rumor themselves.
[+]TheKharmeleon スコアが基準値未満のコメント-18ポイント-17ポイント-16ポイント 4日前 (7子コメント)
They're saying this guy is assuming he has some kind of automatic credibility that no one else really acknowledges. So if he can't reveal his source, can't back it up with more sources, and is unwilling to explain his supposed process, then people just don't have any reason to believe him. Since no one besides a very select few have possible access to verify any of this you're basically just taking this person at their word.
He may be right, I have no idea, but the person above is totally correct. This isn't some trusted journalist breaking a NYT story or something.
[–]Gkender 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 4日前 (6子コメント)
Most journalists from the NYT would go to jail before divulging their stories. Why do you think any journalist should act any different?
[+]TheKharmeleon スコアが基準値未満のコメント-18ポイント-17ポイント-16ポイント 3日前 (5子コメント)
No I'm saying he's not of that caliber of journalist. He hasn't earned that. He's just some dude writing for Kotaku.
[–]Gkender 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 3日前* (4子コメント)
So, unless a journalist reaches whatever your vague standard of "That Caliber of Journalist" is, they should feel free to divulge their sources at the whim of their readers?
You've gotta take the things you're saying to their logical conclusion.
Someone told him something in confidence. He's a journalist, which means his job is to report the news. The rest of the world has different standards as to who's earned what caliber of journalism than you do, and thus, he holds himself to a high enough standard to want to keep his job. He won't be able to report news if the sources he's currently using, and those he may use in the future, think he'll rat them out to save his own reputation. Thus, he doesn't divulge his sources, no matter who he works for.
Also, the implication that his word is no better than any others' ignores the body of work he's done that has shown he Has broken stories reliably & responsibly. He has a history of getting it right, so that's why he's built a layer of trust. Unless you can point to specific patterns of him getting stuff wrong, we have more reason to believe him than to doubt.
[+]TheKharmeleon スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15ポイント-14ポイント-13ポイント 3日前 (3子コメント)
You need to re-read what I and the other poster actually wrote and what we were responding to. I really think you completely misunderstand the point we were making in favor of having some kind of argument over things we never said. This guy came in all holier than thou simply because people were asking him to back up his claims. That's just not how it works. If you think that's how trust works then good luck in life I guess.
[–]somerandomgamer0 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 3日前 (0子コメント)
You should learn about how journalism works before commenting on the practice.
[–]morbidexpression 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 4日前 (2子コメント)
it doesn't matter what you think, tho. Nobody was waiting for your judgment call on anonymous sources. You're not the Columbia School of Journalism and you're perfectly entitled to linger in denial and expect Sony to let the BBC go with his story and spread all this delay news. I mean, WHYYYYYYYY. Why wouldn't someone just have tweeted this morning if the story were false?
They just don't have a release date yet and their stories aren't straight. It'll be figured out shortly and I knoooow you're not man enough to apologize to Jason when they do.
[–]jasonschreier 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 4日前 (1子コメント)
Incidentally, my boss went to the Columbia School of Journalism!
[–]morbidexpression 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
I admit, all I know about them is the scathing comments Hunter Thompson would throw in his letters...
[+]Fight_Money スコアが基準値未満のコメント-22ポイント-21ポイント-20ポイント 4日前 (6子コメント)
yeah everyone, just get smooth talked by this sociopath, click hungry journalist.
[–]Gkender 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 4日前 (4子コメント)
People who accuse others who are to them complete strangers of vague crimes for which they have no substantiation is far more sociopathic, in my mind.
[+]Fight_Money スコアが基準値未満のコメント-19ポイント-18ポイント-17ポイント 4日前 (3子コメント)
Well your mind is wrong my friend
[–]Gkender 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
Good one.
[–]ouTPhaze 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Do you even know what sociopath means? What you're doing really is far more sociopathic.
[–]i_never_use_caps 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
dude you oughtta look up sociopathic cause thats what you are exhibiting.
[–]ouTPhaze 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Dumbass.
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You won't read his article because you don't like hearing you might be wrong.
Too bad you were so incorrect about the game being delayed. Really makes you look great, doesn't it?
[–]PrivateSmiley 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
so how do you feel, now that you know you were 100% wrong?
[–]i_never_use_caps 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
douchey cock sucking "facts"
[–]Manticore416 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 3日前 (0子コメント)
You going to apologize now?
[–]morbidexpression 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 5日前 (0子コメント)
complete assessment? He's a working journalist, you're just a guy nagging minimum wage employees.
[–]snowy30 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Lol dipshit the game got delayed you and your 30 sources
[–]JezusGhoti 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3日前 (0子コメント)
LOL
[–]Hispanicatthedisco 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
This comment is funny, on account of how big of a twat you are.
[–]NotYourBroBrah 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
No apology?
[–]Kid_M3 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21分前 (0子コメント)
Wow saddest person ever post alert?? Jesus christ
[–]jah_92_rastafari -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
I guess maybe they're being worms and when they say they deal in facts they mean they recieved an image from a gamestop employee so that a fact, even though the story itself is a rumour.
[+]DudePickle スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 4日前 (12子コメント)
I guess my big question is who cares about you breaking this story? Why not let it just play out and Sony/HG break the news to us if true? Is it because you're a "journalist" and you guys had nothing else to post on?
Also, it's great when you wait to have two sources, but what if those two sources are unreliable? Like on this story by you http://kotaku.com/rumored-nx-photos-show-a-controller-without-buttons-1766663937
How many sources did you have for that?
Listen, I really don't care if it's true or not, but it shouldn't be up to you/Kotaku to decide to leak potential stuff ahead of schedule. Whether you want to believe it or not, you are NOT an "investigative journalist." Nobody is dying because NMS may or may not be delayed. Nobody is being disenfranchised. Nobody is being discriminated against. Gaming "journalism" is becoming almost worse than the traditional news media complex (with its constant race-baiting, crap stories, over-dramatization of benign stories, and general bad "journalism" just for the sake of clicks and ratings). Don't pretend like you are doing us a favor by "breaking this story." You are only trying to help yourself.
[–]jasonschreier 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 4日前 (2子コメント)
Nice scare-quotes around the word journalist. Does it make you feel like a tough guy? I care about breaking this story because it's my job to break news and keep readers informed. It's as simple as that. Sometimes that news might be helpful to people--like, say, if they took off work for June 21--but more importantly, it's news. Given that I'm a reporter and not Sony's marketing arm, it's my job to report that news whether or not they're ready to talk about it yet.
Did you read this entire article? That was someone else's rumor, not ours. This is the second paragraph: "I should be clear up-front: We have no idea whether these are the real deal. But the newest pictures, posted on Reddit today by a user named perkele37, are compelling enough to be worth sharing."
Don't get me wrong: I don't like having wrong information on Kotaku in any way, but there's a big difference between posting rumors we hear from our own sources and posting rumors we see elsewhere on the web.
Hope that helps, buddy.
[–]ProceduralDad 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 4日前* (0子コメント)
I kind of can't believe any gamer is upset with you for breaking this news, assuming it's true. This news devastates me but I am greatful for you breaking it. Kinda sucks to be looking forward to the wrong date and planning around it. DudePickle doesn't care but others do. Thanks!
[+]DudePickle スコアが基準値未満のコメント-16ポイント-15ポイント-14ポイント 4日前* (0子コメント)
Like I said, a delay does not affect me. So, your comment didn't help. I also, don't need to substantiate myself to you.
Does it make you feel like a tough guy?
Really man, you can be a professional anything [(journalist included (no quotes for ya on that one "buddy")] but as soon as you start defensively name-calling that looks really bad on you.
I care about breaking this story because it's my job to break news and keep readers informed.
You never had a reader in me to begin with so I might not matter to you, but the more vitriol you pour on here the more readers you may lose. So, you may say you care about breaking these stories to help readers but are then willing to turn around and actively attack those potential readers on reddit? It seems to be theme with people at Kotaku attacking people over this so I guess I shouldn't be surprised https://twitter.com/kezamacdonald/status/735821232784977920
So I guess I'll take my air quotes off of journalism and just put them on "professional."
Edit: fixed two double-negatives in the first line.
[–]leftydrummer461 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 4日前* (4子コメント)
You're mad at a games website journalist reporting about games? That's like yelling at your trash guy for picking up your garbage. "Don't act like you're doing us a favor garbage guy! No one will die if you don't take my garbage away!"
[–]DudePickle -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 4日前 (3子コメント)
i get your analogy but I think the garbage man is actually way more important then games journalism. I don't understand why I can't just have an opinion.
[–]leftydrummer461 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4日前 (2子コメント)
You're completely entitled to your opinion, as am I. I just don't think there's any grounds for the vitriol in your comment. I don't think there's anything disingenuous about Jason's article. His job is reporting about games for Kotaku. This is an article about games from Kotaku. He's not "leaking" anything or trying to pass anything off as factual. All the article says is "According to two of our sources, there is a possibility that No Man's Sky has been delayed." Isn't that something you would expect a games news site to report on? I get that we have to take his word that the sources are reliable but like I said it's not like he's saying "this is 100% true and happening."
[–]DudePickle -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 4日前 (1子コメント)
I personally see no vitriol in my first comment, but I guess that is besides the point. We have different opinions and I appreciate that.
But, he is actually trying to pass off potentially false info as fact, imo. Actual quote from article:
The ambitious space game No Man’s Sky has been delayed, two sources tell Kotaku. We don’t know exactly what the new release date is—and it may not be finalized yet—but we’re hearing it’s been bumped until at least July or August.
So, it's been delayed according to two sources, we don't know the new release date, and we are going to speculate that it is July/August. It goes on:
A reliable Kotaku source was the first to inform us of the delay. A second source, who works at GameStop, said they received marketing materials today for No Man’s Sky with the original June 21 release date. However, stores were informed that the release date is no longer correct and that they should cover it up with a “Coming Soon” label
So we have a unnamed reliable source and a GS employee. The unnamed source says it's delayed. The GS employee and marketing materials actually say the date has been changed. Those are not the same thing. So why report it as "delayed" in the main title of the article when your only two sources are saying different things? Last line:
Sony and Hello Games did not respond to requests for comment by publication time.
There you go. Nowhere in the article does it caution the reader that this is speculation.
There is no
"According to two of our sources, there is a possibility that No Man's Sky has been delayed."
Instead there is
The ambitious space game No Man’s Sky has been delayed, two sources tell Kotaku.
Has been delayed. That seems pretty definitive even though there are contradictions within the article itself, e.g., one source saying delayed and the other saying changed. I don't care if it's right or wrong, but I just can't stand this kind of click-baity, jump the gun journalism.
Edit: quote positioning
[–]leftydrummer461 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
Fair points. I'll concede that the article demonstrates some bad practice, comparing it to the standards most professional journalists would adhere to. And upon further examining it the language is putting it strongly that the game is in fact delayed, without really saying it. Maybe I just took it differently. In my mind the article just seemed relatively innocuous and obviously based on loosely corroborated information. Essentially amounting to what I said- that their sources say the game may have been delayed. I just don't get the hate that is/was being thrown at him and I feel people read into it a bit too much. Maybe also I decided to pick on your comment, and sorry for that.
[–]ABitOfResignation 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 4日前 (1子コメント)
You know how many people that NX controller tricked? A vast amount. It was on NeoGAF, it was on Kotaku, it was all over the internet. There were Reddit threads about it. The fake controller was based on real leaked documents of prototypes from Nintendo. It's real easy to sit back on the internet and point out the minority of times that a journal was wrong and say, "Look! They were wrong once so they must be wrong again." You obviously have no clue how journalism works.
Aside from that, you asked "Why even post the article?" It's because people who bought the game deserve to know if it has having development issues. Again. Waiting until Sony can do their best spin isn't really conducive to getting a good assessment of the situation. I don't think gaming journalism is getting worse; I think the readers might be though.
[–]DudePickle 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4日前 (0子コメント)
A little bit of an unnecessary jab there at the end if it was directed at my expense, but let's move on.
I get it. People like/enjoy/get info from gaming journalism. I don't. Difference of opinion. But, if it's going to be here, I don't think the people who rely on it for info should be mislead. That is why I posted.
I also get that news media can be tricked. Do you know why? It's because they are trying to be first. They are trying to be the first to report something. Get the best ratings. Even if it means reporting something ahead of time. Nature of the business, I get it. I guess I do know a little bit about journalism (I never understand why people always throw out that "you have no clue how _________ works!" line to attack others' opinions). Like why do you assume that? Does it strengthen either of our arguments to be well-versed in journalistic endeavors? Who cares?
Anyway, I stand by this quote:
Gaming "journalism" is becoming almost worse than the traditional news media complex (with its constant race-baiting, crap stories, over-dramatization of benign stories, and general bad "journalism" just for the sake of clicks and ratings).
There are inconsistencies between his two sources: the unnamed source saying delayed and the GS materials saying changed. That is not a definitive "delayed" and nowhere in the article does it caution to reader to have speculation and wait for Sony/HG to make a statement. It is bad journalism and rumor-milling.
We can have different opinions and still be civil and have good discussions. Please don't:
You obviously have no clue how journalism works.
and
I don't think gaming journalism is getting worse; I think the readers might be though.
[–]ZachAlt 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4日前 (1子コメント)
Dude. How does your brain even function? Do you dress yourself? Do you have caretakers? Do you need help?
Dude, yes to all of these! Also, quality post. I Lol'ed heartily!
[+]illage2 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 4日前 (4子コメント)
So you knowingly posted what could be misledading information? Bad Journalism.
[–]Dropofr3d 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3日前 (3子コメント)
It wasn't misleading though, was it?
[–]illage2 -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 3日前 (2子コメント)
You didn't read my comment "what could be" I never outright said that the information was misleading.
[–]Dropofr3d 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3日前 (1子コメント)
I absolutely did read your comment, and the fact that it turned out to be true negates the fact that it could have been misleading.
[–]illage2 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 3日前 (0子コメント)
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