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Update- cpr at the gym (self.legaladvice)

cprthrowaway123 が 投稿

I know you guys love your updates, so I have a happy one! A few months ago I posted here looking for an eli5 for the good Samaritan law, because I wound up doing cpr for 7 minutes at the gym one morning until paramedics arrived.

I saw this man at the gym today. He got a defibrillator and was discharged from the hospital 2 days post code, and has been doing wonderful since. Apparently he's been back at the gym for awhile, and I had just been missing him.

Working in health care, we see and hear tons of threats of lawsuits. Even if everything is done perfect, the possibility is always there, so I wanted to have my bases covered, and you guys put me at ease. And seeing this man healthy and alive was such an amazing feeling. Thanks for all the advice you guys give!

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[–]TheElderGodsSmile 86ポイント87ポイント  (1子コメント)

Cheers for the update OP, glad your patient was ok in the end. Clearly you did a good job.

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[–]cprthrowaway123[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you! It's a really good feeling.

[–]ethanjf99 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

Best kind of update. Thank you!

[–]cprthrowaway123[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks! Glad I could share!

[–]iProtein 12ポイント13ポイント  (10子コメント)

Did you ever get a total count on how many of his ribs you broke?

[–]bastardblaster 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've had CPR performed on me before, and it's not like when I've had broken ribs; they don't break in the middle of the bone. Basically all of my ribs detached from my sternum, of which there isn't much left. Now if I cough or gag, they make a grinding sound.

[–]cprthrowaway123[S] 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

I didn't! Based on the number of snaps I felt during, maybe 5? It's such a gross feeling, I cringe every time. I can't imagine how bad it must hurt for them.

[–]blzraven27 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well atleast when it happens they are unconcious.

[–]rethin 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well atleast when it happens they are unconciousdead.

[–]Gas_monkey 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not dead. Death is legally, and medically, distinct from cardiac arrest. Death is the irreversible cessation of all bodily functions; whereas we can and do reversibly stop the heart (eg during cardiac surgery) or resuscitate stopped hearts (as in this case).

[–]Cryorm 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

When got first aid training, they told us that if didn't break ribs, we didn't do it hard enough. Logic?

[–]Machismo01 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

A chest full of broken ribs is better than dead. It takes a lot of force to get that pressure on the heart.

[–]Curri 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not exactly true. They're just telling you that so you don't subconsciously become afraid of injuring them. Also, people tend to not apply enough force for whatever reasons.

[–]ElMachoGrande 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly what I learned as well, and what my nurse GF says.

[–]Hitty40 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the question we need an answer for, OP.

[–]Foghorn225 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

So given nothing was mentioned about him threatening you with a lawsuit, did you speak with him, maybe get some gratitude for saving his life?

[–]cprthrowaway123[S] 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

I didn't. I feel like enough time has passed, it would be weird to walk up to him and say "hey, remember that time you died?" If he approached me, I'd love to chat with him, but considering the gym manager told his family he did everything, it would be weird to bring it up first, and I don't know if he even knows anyone else was involved. I just know what I know because the girl at the front desk told me. I'm an icu nurse, most of the patients I code are already in such bad shape, their prognosis just goes from bad to worse. So seeing someone I actively had a hand in saving doing so well is all I need.

[–]horsenbuggy 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmm. You could casually say something like, "i was here that day. It's really great to see you're doing well and back to being active." And leave it at that. He may like that there are people who notice his recovery.

[–]who_hah 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I found a very informative article about good Samaritan laws and medical professionals. It cleared it all up for me. I wasn't sure either and I am about to finish med school! It's a common misconception that you will get sued because you volunteer care in an emergency with the result of a poor outcome.

http://biotech.law.lsu.edu/Books/lbb/x894.htm

[–]SnowySaint 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

People helping people, powerful stuff.

[–]princetonwu 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

did he have a shockable rhythm?

[–]BubblingMonkey[🍰] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

If any damage isn't excessive and you did nearly the v right method, you're fine.

Like you didn't use your foot to do compressions, you didn't cause excessive damage that is deemed unnecessary, just things like that. Good Samaritan laws are designed to protect you just for trying if anything happens.