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GMO food - whats THEIR plan? (self.conspiracy)

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Hello to all :) I was thinking of UN-NATURAL food (and we call it in our country GMO lol :D) why we (all around the world, the most in western countries) have that much of them? We all know these arent good for our health (i can only hope that everyone knows) but whats the essence of their point/plan - by 'people from the top'? Yeah, also we know their plan is to make 'us' more stupid and make 'us' easier to manipate, control...but...they also want a LESS people on the Earth...== smaller number of people => easier to 'do what they want to do'...but isnt this also their plan..maybe? (i was thinking about it ~2 weeks ago):

To change our 'hetero hormones' to 'homo hormones' (because difference between gays and 'normal' are harmones) so by changing it - World will have more gay, so it means less preductivity of new lifes/new children...so like i said (we all know) reduce the number of people = easier for controlling

*Maybe GMO isnt changing our hormones, but Yep, food is totally unnatural now and it does something with hormones, have too much additives and ect...to be honest, dont know much about that 'wrong' food (cuz im trying to avoid it) but its easy to figure out that these food dont contain anything logic to eat...:D i hope you understood what i wanted to say, so im hoping for some rational replies, thanks in advance :)

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[–]sirricharic 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My only guess is to control the food supply.

[–]Rumpi_Tumskin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

...soft kill...

[–]poruss 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Money and the craving lust to control

Same. Always the same. Mental cases

[–]Sodaducky 6ポイント7ポイント  (70子コメント)

How are GMO's bad?

[–]flyyyyyyyyy 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

i'm no expert, but off the top of my head:

  • 'roundup-ready' gmo produce encourages the liberal application of glyphosate, known to cause cancer, gut flora decimation, and other health problems
  • gene-spliced insecticide kills insects that eat it - maybe we shouldn't eating that..??
  • terminator genes lock farmers into buying seeds year after year
  • monsanto's business practices are outright disgusting
  • controlling world-wide human fertility rates
  • controlling world-wide human food supply

[–]Actually_Saradomin 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

terminator genes

These aren't used. They are not out on the market.

monsanto's business practices are outright disgusting

You probably say this because you think the sued farmers due to cross pollination.

gene-spliced insecticide kills insects that eat it - maybe we shouldn't eating that..??

This isn't an argument. The sweetener used by the hippie anti aspartame companies kills a species of bird at very low dosages. Does that mean we ban that?

[–]heyisthatcyclopean -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You sure seem to post across multiple sub-reddits about this topic and copy -paste Clinton stuff. Hmmmm

[–]Actually_Saradomin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My educational background is physics.

I am a liberal.

Being anti-trump and science loving isn't a rare mix by any means.

Stop being a low IQ moron. Hmmmm.

[–]BrianDynBardd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To add to this: Look at the environmental effects of pesticides used, not just the use on the actual plants but also the production of these chemicals produces runoff. Also many pesticides lead to soil degradation.

The fact of the matter is that pesticides and GMOs can be replaced.

They increase yields, in a system that has a huge problem with waste.

So maybe we should focus on fixing food waste issues?

Small, local, poly-culture farms would be the ideal fix. Reduction of shipping, reduction of food waste, increased job opportunities.

Use nature to deal with pests/disease.

It's easier/faster/more productive to spray weeds with pesticides, or you could just pull them out of the ground with a shovel, or get a couple of goats which will graze on weeds. But that's not quick enough for today's fast paced world, so continue to put on a hazmat suit and spray toxins?

here's a study showing the benefits of poly-culture and how leaving some weeds help keep away pests/disease

Eliminating one part of the natural cycle of things has never worked out well. Nature is a self regulating system. We find something that destroys one (or more) pest/weed, and some system is disrupted, or it becomes resistant and even stronger than before.

[–]Windrammer420 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

'roundup-ready' gmo produce encourages the liberal application of glyphosate, known to cause cancer, gut flora decimation, and other health problems

Everything causes cancer. The sun causes cancer. Well toasted bread causes cancer. What you're referring to is a study in which they fed and injected rats with toxic doses of the active chemical every day until they got cancer.

gene-spliced insecticide kills insects that eat it - maybe we shouldn't eating that..??

This is just one of those things that just "sounds scary", sort of like "reclaimed water". The truth is that it's harmless to humans. I'm sure if you drank a jar of roundup you'd feel nauseous but the fact of the matter is that our bodies are of a different size and chemical makeup than the insects targeted by roundup, and it's not harmful to us. There are infinite things that are harmful to one species and not another, and everything is toxic in a large enough dose.

Also there have been extensive studies conducted on the safety of this stuff, well outside of the corrupt FDA. In regards to Roundup and GMO's in general the overwhelming scientific consensus is that it's safe, so you'd have to double down and say the scientific community is in on the grand conspiracy, in which case most of what we "know" about anything goes out the window. GUESS IT'S A FLAT EARTH AFTER ALL GUYS!

terminator genes lock farmers into buying seeds year after year

Which is sad

monsanto's business practices are outright disgusting

Yes, but Nestle has been considerably worse and you guys aren't flipping your lids over their products.

Genetic Modification does not belong to Monsanto. Monsanto is just another corrupt, soulless, business and it's silly to use it as an argument against genetic modification.

controlling world-wide human fertility rates

If you're suggesting a conspiracy to feed people genetically modified food which somehow made them sterile then I can tell you right now that there are FAR more cost effective ways of accomplishing that and it's an absurd to use that as an argument against GMO's.

controlling world-wide human food supply

How so?

[–]HeyImCallingTheCops -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Except none of that has anything to do with the food itself. Just with the company.

[–]themeanbeaver 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Except that making a seed GMO is the only way to patent pre- existing seed in the food supply. So it is the act of modifying seed genes for corporate profit that causes all these problems of pesticide pollution, food insecurity, ecosystem destruction, and corporate monopoly on food control. Monsanto is not the only one who engages in this practice, they all do. Anyone who dearly cares about the environment and poverty and supports gmo seeds is a fucking ignorant idiot or a hypocrite predator asshole of the Bill Gates Kind. In which case, his position makes sense considering he wants to wipe out a good portion of humanity.

And if you didnt know..Monsanto also controls the largest non gmo seed producer companies. They have strangle hold on seed production.

[–]BrianDynBardd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

modifying seed genes for corporate profit that causes all these problems of pesticide pollution, food insecurity, ecosystem destruction, and corporate monopoly on food control.

This is a summery of the most important problems of GMO.

[–]HeyImCallingTheCops -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Except that making a seed GMO is the only way to patent pre- existing seed in the food supply.

So you don’t allow that. Problem solved.

all these problems of pesticide pollution, food insecurity, ecosystem destruction, and corporate monopoly on food control.

Not really. Just don’t use those seeds.

In which case, his position makes sense considering he wants to wipe out a good portion of humanity.

I like you.

And if you didnt know..Monsanto also controls the largest non gmo seed producer companies.

We used to have laws against that sort of thing... Ma Bell ought to have a word with them.

[–]themeanbeaver 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So What if the FDA the regulatory body ,which is comprised of Monsanto and industry hired goons doesn't give a fuck about you or the environment?

Any clever person would just treat these poisons what they are: poison served by greedy and opportunistic companies. You wanna support Gmo, go and buy it and consume it. Don't fucking shove it down our throats. But no...they fucking prevent us by legislation from avoiding it. I haven't even touched corn or soy products in years... now add salmon to that list.

[–]jocasrbija[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (58子コメント)

better question - how is it good?

[–]lbrodieee -2ポイント-1ポイント  (37子コメント)

I can explain why they are bad. People may not agree with what I say but I know it to be the truth.

Our bodies are run the best off fasting and alkaline foods that are filled with electricity. Our bodies are not only physical but also electric.

Plants and nuts are the only ways to get alkaline food today. All GMO foods have had their acidity cranked up so that eating an alkaline diet is nearly impossible. Even people who think they are eating an alkaline diet normally aren't. They do not expect the tomatoes, apples, bananas, and the majority of other foods they eat to actually be acidic. In reality they are, they take out electricity from the foods and make it almost impossible to reach an alkaline state.

In an alkaline state our bodies are filled with more energy, the Chinese call it Chi energy. Humans are actually magical believe it or not and they have worked in conspiracy to make us lose our abilities.

All GMO food eaten is worse for you, less nutrient dense and also more acidic.

[–]HeyImCallingTheCops 6ポイント7ポイント  (24子コメント)

Our bodies are not only physical but also electric.

/r/conspiratard

/r/electricuniverse

[–]BrianDynBardd -5ポイント-4ポイント  (22子コメント)

Do you know how nerves work on a very basic level?

An electrical impulse

Edit: To take this further:

Every action that happens in the body, whether it be a muscle movement or something you don't consciously do like make a blood cell, it takes energy derived from food.

Also, what atoms are made up of?

protons, neutrons, and electrons

We are made entirely of atoms, each atom is stored energy.

Edit to fix wording

[–]squamesh 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Each atom has an action potential"

No... Am action potential is a state that a neural cell can reach once the electric potential across its phospholipid bilateral is sufficiently depolarized. None of that has anything to do with the acidity or alkalinity of the food we eat (especially foods that are naturally very acidic like tomatoes). You seem to obliquely understand that electricity is important to our body without actually having any understanding of why or how

[–]BrianDynBardd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're right, that was a mistake in my wording. Action potential is the term used for nerves.

I should've put: each atom contains stored energy

I'm not talking about acidity/alkalinity, though I do find it interesting.

[–]Scarytownterminator 1ポイント2ポイント  (16子コメント)

Nerves do not conduct electrons. It's through the exchange of much, much larger ions. Thats why we think slower when compared to how fast electricity transmits.

See below where someone talks about action potentials. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of basic physics, science, and biology. I really hope you don't vote.

[–]BrianDynBardd -2ポイント-1ポイント  (15子コメント)

Sounds like you are being a stickler for syntax. Sounds like you might be the type of person who thinks in only black and white, no gray area.

So are you saying because the exchange is through much larger ions it is not an electric process? Is there no energy being used?

What are nerve impulses? A nerve impulse is an electrical signal that travels along an axon. There is an electrical difference between the inside of the axon and its surroundings, like a tiny battery. When the nerve is activated, there is a sudden change in the voltage across the wall of the axon, caused by the movement of ions in and out of the neuron. This triggers a wave of electrical activity that passes from the cell body along the length of the axon to the synapse. A nerve impulse is a wave of electrical activity that passes from one end of a neuron to the other.

Source: http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/whoami/findoutmore/yourbrain/howdoesyourbrainwork/howdoesyournervoussystemwork/whatarenerveimpulses

Or you can just search google "Nerve Impulse"

There will be pages of articles, videos, and explanations about how nerve impulses are electrical signals.

You need to stop thinking inside a small box.

Edit: I just noticed that your comment said:

Nerves do not conduct electrons.

Did my original comment insinuate that? All I stated was that nerves use electric impulses.

Edit 2: spelling

[–]Scarytownterminator 1ポイント2ポイント  (14子コメント)

That is a layman's definition intended to give the general idiot (You) some idea of what's going on.

I can't argue with someone who has a fundamental disconnect from how reality operates, we're using a completely different set of facts. Mine are real and yours are woowoo magicks.

Explain this to me. How is ATP generated using electricity? How is electricity converted into biomass? How are cyclins regulated using electricity. Cartilage, as you probably know being the genius you are, is avascular and aneural. How does it get nutrients from electricty?

[–]BrianDynBardd -1ポイント0ポイント  (12子コメント)

Wow, I don't think I would want to argue with someone who only uses personal insults in lieu of an argument.

Any personal thoughts or theories, maybe articles some sort? Or do you just want to insult someone?

How is the idea that a nerve impulse is essentially energetic "woowoo magicks"?

Maybe a definition of energy would help you buddy:

In physics, energy is a property of objects which can be transferred to other objects or converted into different forms. The "ability of a system to perform work" is a common description, but it is misleading because energy is not necessarily available to do work.

How are we using a completely different set of facts? Please enlighten me, since your fundamental logic and facts is so superior to mine!

[–]Scarytownterminator 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

You're mixing electrical potential and ion propogation with energy. You clearly have no idea what you're saying. Just stop, please.

Or at least answer my questions in my previous comment. I want to know how electricity supplants all of the things I mentioned. I can come up with other questions too.

[–]BrianDynBardd -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Energy is the "ability of a system to perform work"

All these things you're asking are not electricity in the form most people think of like turning a light on. None of my comments said that the body is taking nutrients from electricity.

Any activity that the body does requires requires energy. You can talk about the body in the most complex way you would like, but you cannot deny: energy in=energy out

The word energy freaks people out when used out of any other context then a light bulb... Immediately being regarded as "woowoo magicks"

Fundamentally, calories are energy, atoms are stored energy.

Particles can be seen as both a particle and a wave. Everything can be viewed as waves. A wave is a form of energy.

You're stuck on the idea that energy is electricity running through a wire and turning it into light. Energy is much more than that my friend.

[–]HeyImCallingTheCops 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

But we don’t run off of current potentials. That our nervous systems transmit electrons has little to do with the “electricality” of food intake.

[–]lbrodieee -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

We're on a conspiracy forum, it depends if you think school teaches the right thing or the wrong thing. You can disagree but your ignorance is showing whenever you do. http://wakeup-world.com/2015/08/28/dr-sebi-the-man-who-cures-aids-cancer-diabetes-and-more/

[–]squamesh 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So this guy believes that all disease is caused by excess mucus? Sorry but we ditched believing in humors for a pretty good reason. Even if you believe that untrained and uneducated people somehow (or sometimes) have a better grasp on science than actual scientists and doctors, this is just lunacy

[–]TheStrangeTamer -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

20 days in and you got it all figured out... LoL.. so do we

[–]Actually_Saradomin 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Humans are actually magical believe it or not and they have worked in conspiracy to make us lose our abilities.

Ahahahhahahaha. Ill take 'or not'.

[–]lbrodieee -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Your electric body is your spirit body, some have current access others do not. We live in north america though I'm not expecting you to believe I'm just telling you it's definitely worth looking into. Spirit runs through all things.

[–]MumblePins 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

current

Hah! A pun!

north america

Oh... It's because we use 120/60Hz? Now I get it, we need to switch to 230/50Hz to match with the karmic standard of India, so we can find our spirit body.

[–]lbrodieee 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No by we live in North America I mean we have no access to good food, nor do we ever fast. I'm done with reddit you and many others here are like talking to a wall. You are also probably fat so I doubt you'd want to put in the work.

[–]BrianDynBardd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't let it get to you, some are unwilling to keep an open mind. Keep spreading your truth!

[–]Windrammer420 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

All GMO foods have had their acidity cranked up

A GMO is an organism that's been genetically modified. As in, it's DNA got changed. In no way does this change the acidity of an organism unless that's what you specifically decided to do. You can GM a lemon to make it less acidic. Similarly, you can GM a lemon to make it more packed with nutrients. Genetic modification just makes an organism into whatever you want it to be.

As for electricity... No, that's not how any of that works.

[–]lbrodieee 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

You are not thinking on my plane. I am not talking about how sour or the taste of the vegetable or fruit. When you consume a lemon it is actually alkaline. I am saying the conversion that happens in your body does not happen as nature intended and it does not alkalize your body as well as a non-GMO fruit or vegetable. All fruits or vegetables whether they are sweet or sour actually turns alkaline in your body. Your logic is like saying just eat a bunch of bland foods and your body turns alkaline. No. GMO foods are less nutrient dense and do not alkalize in your body like Non-GMO foods. On top of that you are sitting here defending the system. The system deserves to go down in every aspect. The entire system has Satan written on it if you do your research.

[–]Windrammer420 -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

I am not talking about how sour or the taste of the vegetable or fruit. When you consume a lemon it is actually alkaline.

Scientifically speaking, an increase in alkalinity would LITERALLY MAKE IT TASTE MORE ACIDIC.

I am saying the conversion that happens in your body does not happen as nature intended and it does not alkalize your body as well as a non-GMO fruit or vegetable.

Things don't magically become healthier when you've deemed it natural. The instant you so much as cook a food it's become unnatural.

The only difference between a GMO lemon and another lemon is the altered gene.

Think of it this way:

Imagine a person got genetically modified to have blue eyes when they normally would have had brown eyes.

They are not more acidic, they are not less energetic, there is literally nothing different except the color of their eyes, because that was the only gene that was altered. It was as if they had inherited the gene, but they didn't.

GMO foods are less nutrient dense

This isn't based in any sort of fact. Whether a GMO food is more or less nutrient dense depends solely on how they decided to design it. If all they're altering is the color of a peach then the density of nutrients will be exactly the same. Genetics is simpler than you think.

On top of that you are sitting here defending the system.

No, I'm defending science and scientific fact. Science doesn't care about what the establishment is doing or how people feel, it's about the logical study of all that which is observable. If a fact is inconvenient or unsettling then so be it.

The entire system has Satan written on it if you do your research.

I think Satan is a laughably absurd concept and Christians can't even agree on what he's supposed to be. Is he just some fallen angel who does as much as the Bible says he does, or is he actually author of a bunch of grand pranks on humanity? I say neither because it's silly. The concept of Satan only exists to enforce fear among the irrational, and fear is a detriment to reason.

[–]lbrodieee -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

You're wrong on every level. I believe you are a paid shill to be honest so I will attempt to make you look as stupid as possible.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-on-genetically-modified-corn-herbicide-and-tumors-reignites-controversy/

No, I'm defending science and scientific fact. Science doesn't care about what the establishment is doing

Yes but the establishment cares what science is doing. They alter results so that idiots like you believe their endless scheme of lies.

I am not religious. So I don't know why you are bringing up Christianity.

I just know there is nothing good this system does which leads me to believe it is in fact Satan.

Dr. Sebi has cured every disease and illness known to man and he only eats non-GMO fruits and vegetables and certain nuts and oils.

Eating GMO foods alter our DNA. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0069805

Irrational is exactly what you are do not talk to me about being irrational. You stand by as a system doesn't feed homeless. Invades and takes over any country they please.

Is he actually author of a bunch of grand pranks on humanity?

The grand prank is the fake life you're living.

The concept of Satan only exists to enforce fear among the irrational, and fear is a detriment to reason.

You're scared I'm right which leads you to the anger you feel inside your very body right now which is called cognitive dissonance. Stay in ignorance for just a few more years so you can get your 666.

[–]Windrammer420 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're wrong on every level. I believe you are a paid shill to be honest so I will attempt to make you look as stupid as possible.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-on-genetically-modified-corn-herbicide-and-tumors-reignites-controversy/

Better start with the study that I referenced before you did lol

They alter results so that idiots like you believe their endless scheme of lies.

No, anti-GMO people alter results so that idiots like you believe their endless scheme of lies.

I am not religious. So I don't know why you are bringing up Christianity.

Then why do you believe in the existence of Satan? Or was that some sort of awkward metaphor?

Dr. Sebi has cured every disease and illness known to man and he only eats non-GMO fruits and vegetables and certain nuts and oils.

How on earth could you expect anyone to take such a statement seriously?

Eating GMO foods alter our DNA. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0069805

This is about food in general, not GMO foods, and it doesn't say that the food actually alters our genetic makeup. DNA is an actual physical substance and the study talks about how it can make it to our bloodstream. That doesn't mean it influences OUR genetic makeup anymore than it would to stick your finger in a cup of DNA. It doesn't do anything on contact.

Again, GMO foods don't have some magical new effect on your body as opposed to a regular food. It's just a food with different DNA. That's IT. Whether it's a selectively bred apple or a genetically modified apple has no difference of consequence on your health and this would be an obvious fact if you bothered to learn more about genetics. Please, look into the subject, if not to learn more about GMO's than just because it's an incredibly interesting and important field in general.

The grand prank is the fake life you're living.

What's fake about my life? I sleep 6-8 hours, I eat healthy, I exercise every other day, I try to enjoy myself when I come home, I save up money to travel. What's wrong with what I'm doing?

You're scared I'm right which leads you to the anger you feel inside your very body right now which is called cognitive dissonance. Stay in ignorance for just a few more years so you can get your 666.

That's not what cognitive dissonance is.

Look, man. I'm sorry for being rude. Just understand that this is one of the only matters I get offended over... When I feel that science is being misinterpreted or misrepresented in a way that could impede progress. If there's anything I fear it's the phenomenon of misinformation. Surely we can both agree that that's a terrifying thing.

[–]Windrammer420 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Think of a crop.

Think of literally any fucking way it could be better. Bigger, tastier, better looking, more resistant to cold, pesticides, etc.

That's what genetic modification is for. Think of selective breeding. Genetic modification does that with more efficiency and less limitation.

You're worried about it being unhealthy for you. Why? So what if you put a banana gene in a strawberry? Are bananas toxic? Do you think there's going to be some sort of unanticipated chemical reaction that renders the strawberry toxic? If so, then you don't understand enough about what genetic modification is to have ANY opinion on it.

[–]drwooo 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

because there are tens of thousands genes in a living beeing and we have just begun to experiment with tinkering those.

sure it's fine in theory and it will be great when we grow a 2lb strawberry with every vitamin you require.

But we're just not there yet and monsanto and other companies are doing this for a whole different set of reasons starting with money.

[–]Windrammer420 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

because there are tens of thousands genes in a living beeing and we have just begun to experiment with tinkering those.

Yes, we are a long ways from mapping a whole genome. But each gene has a specific purpose, like a piece of furniture in a house. There's a gene for eye color. We know that's what it does, and that's all it does.

Imagine you're walking through a mansion. You don't know what lies on the other end of the mansion, but you can recognize a chair or a painting as you walk by it. And if you move the chair or change the upholstery you know it won't affect the fixtures in the kitchen.

But we're just not there yet and monsanto and other companies are doing this for a whole different set of reasons starting with money.

Unfortunately that's the way of the world and it's hard to do it any differently, especially in regards to matters as expensive as this. I can't imagine a nonprofit GM institution faring very well.

[–]drwooo 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

i am all for gene manipulation, once we master the art ...

we will probably be able to engineer a better human, less greedy, more resiliant to deaseas and what not and i bet there are laboratories where they are already trying to achieve that.

but we're not there yet, yes you can deactivate a blue eye gene, but we don't know what else this brings forth, it can destroy a dozen other things we don't know about

it's like in software, fix a bug, and 2 more arise ...

it's a complicated matter is all i am saying and they're doing if for the wrong reasons for now

edit: nonprofit, not everything should be for profit, some things should be OURS not private, ie, knowledge.. there's so much fucking money in the world and we let a hundred people hoard it like our lifes depend on it

[–]Windrammer420 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

but we're not there yet, yes you can deactivate a blue eye gene, but we don't know what else this brings forth, it can destroy a dozen other things we don't know about

I don't think so. The reason genetic code is so extensive is because of how specific each gene is in purpose. The gene for eye color truly is just a gene for eye color and I'm fairly certain we know that just as well as we can know anything in science.

edit: nonprofit, not everything should be for profit, some things should be OURS not private, ie, knowledge.. there's so much fucking money in the world and we let a hundred people hoard it like our lifes depend on it

In a perfect world, yes. But few people get to enjoy the privilege of being able to not pursue profit. Sadly, the most progress in science occurs when there's potential profit involved and I suspect that's what it will take with genetics. Especially with the paranoia surrounding it... The general people don't support GMO's.

[–]Sodaducky -5ポイント-4ポイント  (14子コメント)

Well when I try to look up on how they are bad, I get a bunch of arguments that say how they are bad but are quickly disputed

[–]ProudNZ 0ポイント1ポイント  (13子コメント)

Don't feel bad about the downvotes, anything remotely pro-gm will get downvoted around here, they aren't big on actual discussion if it means listening to differing viewpoints.

[–]Sodaducky 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

I expected as much but I was genuinely curious and have yet to get a definitive proof that they are bad that hasn't been already disproved. IMO, there are other things to worry about than modified food that has so far been helping people. I think the worry comes from not understanding it and essentially people playing god with food

[–]lbrodieee 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

They are bad, science just ignores the area's that they affect. Basically everything we consume is bad. That's why everyone is getting sicker and sicker. Live a happy stress free life eating healthy non-GMO foods and you'll quickly find you are filled with energy and do not get sick anymore.

[–]Sodaducky 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

Ok but how are they bad? Give me examples that haven't been disproven. People say that organic unaltered food is better but for the most part it's not. Our bodies have become accustomed to the new healthy world we live in and if you eat food that is unchecked, you could get very sick

[–]lbrodieee 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

Everyone is sick. Look around, the entire earth is being destroyed. Humanity is constantly becoming dumber. We are beginning to get sick at younger and younger ages. At the same time we are living shorter life spans than our parents. What exactly do you think is happening?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-on-genetically-modified-corn-herbicide-and-tumors-reignites-controversy/

It causes tumors, probably causes cancer. Every food causes something different because it is not what we are supposed to eat.

Our unhealthy lifestyles make our bodies very stiff which in turn means our muscles are constantly activated. We also live a stressful life, stress gets stuck in our bodies and causes illness. We sit all day and they have somehow tricked us into thinking that fasting is bad. They also tell us fat is not good for us and carbs are. Sugar is carbs. Sugar is the worst. They have basically funneled all fat people into ignoring fat and consuming more carbs, which in turn makes them eat more sugar.

It's like a rubiks cube figuring it out but the truth is still out there.

[–]Sodaducky 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

I don't think GMO's are making people as sick as you believe. There are a ton of different factors at play to our daily lives. For starters, it might be because how fucking clean the 1st world is today. Parents today make their kids too clean. This one kid in my class a while ago had parents who were obsessed with being clean and controlled his food and what he ate. Needless to say that we was always sick with somthing and he had a bunch of food allergies. That might be an extreme case but it shows that being too clean is bad but that doesn't mean we should be dirty because that could also have negative effects. As far as obesity in the world, I blame that all on the sugar industry with all shit they put in the food. Natural sugars are good but obviously you shouldn't eat it all day, every day. So while people may think that playing god with food may sound scary, it's not as bad as people make it out to be. If it makes the food bigger, last longer, and fights off nasty bugs that will get you sick, why wouldn't we do it? Is it because it's unethical to play god?

[–]lbrodieee -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

No it's because the same people who have modified those foods are the same people who have tricked everyone into thinking fats are bad for you. The same people who feed us sugar on a grand scale. Are the same people who sell heroin to everyone for dirt cheap prices. Are the same people who stress everyone out. Are the same people who spray terrible pesticides all over fruits and veggies that we after eat. It's a chain event. Evil is written all over them. There are tons of sources of what GMO foods do to animals. Tumors mainly but you either stay in ignorance or really look at this world for what it is.

[–]s70n3834r 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

They are already poisoning us through our food, but we are getting wise to it; they intend to manage it so we have much less choice than to eat what they offer in the future.

[–]jocasrbija[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

totally agree :) my idea is wrong i get it now hah..you are right...best example is, also to answer to some people who believe in those 'science' => my bro lives on Iceland...in his town theres 0% natural food, they dont have ground for it, or no matter why...so they have opportunity to buy (for example) tomatoes everyday, like its water or idk...thats not normal..but when they buy it (or any other fruit, vegetable) its 2x bigger than normal (natural) and guess the taste of it....=> plastic...just like it looks like, simple as that :)

*and because of it, before he goes home after holidays - he always carry much foods from here (serbia)...:)

[–]thc1967 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

We all know these arent good for our health (i can only hope that everyone knows)

There actually aren't any definitive studies either way, assuming we discount the industry-funded ones as bullshit just like the old industry-funded tobacco studies that showed it was just fine and the industry-funded leaded fuel additive studies that showed it was just fine.

whats the essence of their point/plan - by 'people from the top'?

Perpetual profit.

Create a seed that is pest and drought resistant but that doesn't produce any seeds. Sell that seed to farmers. They theoretically produce more crops and earn more money. But because the crops don't seed with anything that will actually grow, they need to buy seed from you next year, and the next year, and so on...

they also want a LESS people on the Earth

Fewer people = fewer people to sell to = fewer $.

To change our 'hetero hormones' to 'homo hormones' (because difference between gays and 'normal' are harmones)

Back to school with you!

World will have more gay, so it means less preductivity of new lifes/new children

Education + birth control. Both are a hell of a lot cheaper than some inane conspiracy to turn people gay, if that were even possible.

[–]Actually_Saradomin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

but that doesn't produce any seeds.

They do produce seeds. Legally not allowed to use. Farmers dont tend to save seed anyway as its not economic. The repurchasing of seeds is seen throughout organic farming.