I'd do me. Why won't those bitches?
Well, this explains a few things:
Narcissistic Heterosexual Men Target Their Hostility Primarily at Heterosexual Women, the Objects of Their Desires, Study Finds
ScienceDaily (July 29, 2010) — Heterosexual women bear the brunt of narcissistic heterosexual men’s hostility, while heterosexual men, gay men and lesbian women provoke a softer reaction, according to psychologist Dr. Scott Keiller from Kent State University at Tuscarawas. This is likely to be due to women’s unparalleled potential for gratifying, or frustrating, men’s narcissism, the author concludes. They are crucial players and even gatekeepers in men’s quests for sexual pleasure, patriarchal power and status.
More here. The actual study here (subscribers only).
Yes, like a lot of psych studies, it was based on a relatively small sample of college students (104 undergraduate men, to be exact). But after this post yesterday – and, you know, the entire content of this blog — it’s hard not to think that Keiller is on to something.
“Gatekeepers.”
Oy.
I hate the idea that I’m some sort of obstacle standing between a man and my vagina.
But I agree that it makes sense in the narcissistic mindset–if you believe you deserve sex just for being your awesome self, then you’re going to have some unwarranted rage at the people who aren’t giving you that sex you deserve.
My question is, why is it such a shock to these men that I get to choose who has access to my ladyparts? Seriously, at what point in life do you decide that you are entitled to have sex with whoever you want whenever you want? Ugh.
Uh, I thought we had hamster brains–how are we conferring status now? Oh, right, that probably has something to with our hotness or lack thereof.
Make up your minds dudes, do we have all the power or none?
hellkell, I think that’s a very revealing contradiction in MRA ideology. They complain endlessly about women treating men as “success objects,” but they’ll never admit that men do the same thing. The guys who think they deserve a Megan Fox; well, they’re not really after sexual gratification, as such, are they? They’re after the enhanced status they’ll get when other people (esp. other men) see them in the company of a conventionally beautiful woman.
Tagnabbit! Only hellkell’s actual quote should’ve been in italics. *s8gh*
[FIXED IT! -DF]
blockquote>Uh, I thought we had hamster brains–how are we conferring status now?
You don’t operate in a hamster-based social hierarchy? o_O How do you figure out your status in the group, then? I mean, for example, this one time at college this other student was talking crap to me, so I was like “whatever; show me your hamsters, bitch” and she pulled out like, 2 hamsters from each pocket and started looking all proud, and all the other students were like “OOOHHH” but I couldn’t be having that, so I opened my winter coat and I had a billion fucking hamsters, like, strapped bandolier-style across my entire torso.
Yeah, I don’t need tell you who won that argument. Uppity four-hamster-hoes gotta learn their place! >:D
Wasn’t this always like a known fact of life? lol
I really want to read the whole study, now.
I’m waiting for FactFinder or some other person to dismiss this study as being fudged “because the scientists fear feminist criticism” or some crap.
Then EWME makes some comment that’s supposed to offend us readers.
Then NWO goes on about how all science is a lie (which is funny as hell coming from an 50+ ENGINEER who makes machines from scratch and was turned down by PepsiCo.)
Hm…did I get everybody?
You left out NWO mysteriously bringing up Title IX.
Then Mr. Al comes in to talk about how this article is misandrist and the author should be stabbed to death with safety pins, then thrown off a build–whoops, he didn’t mean to say that and he’s sooo sorry.
Title IX is a gubmint scam that gives female narcissists unlimited college scholarships!
(How did I do?)
@chocominties: Oh, yeah. Can’t forget that.
@mediumdave: Hahahahaha.
[forgot to say, thanks for the fix, David!]
Joanna, it did occur to me that this study might fall into the “Water is wet, scientists report” category, but I find it just as interesting when science confirms common-sense ideas as when it debunks them (I just loved the study that debunked the famous 5-second rule.)
I think that it’s hard for non-narcissistic people to really embrace the NP view of the world. I know personally that I’ve been “burned” many times by people who’ve seen me (or people that I care about) merely as sources to supply their egos. Or maybe I’m just too trusting. 😀
mediumdave
Lol! The Oatmeal also has his rendition of the 5 second rule. His annoying lack of a search bar makes it hard to find in a hurry though.
And there’s no better feeling than burning others *maniacal laugh*
Holly: I don’t have a problem with you being the gatekeeper to your vagina. The same way I don’t have a problem with me being the gatekeeper to my penis.
Better still, my partners don’t have a problem with that; even when they know they have moderately blanket permission.
And I don’t assume that having had sex with them in the past I am entitled to have sex with them now (I do figure that if we are never going to have sex again I will be told).
Bodily autonomy, we can haz.
Hey David! How are you doing! I see you are still pussy begging the fuglies of humanity with this site. I hope you are getting some quality tail (or at least what passes for quality within feminist circles) out of your groveling. Just popping in to see if the same old man haters, degenerates and bitter lesbians (sorry for the redundancy) and other outliers to normalcy and decency are still crowing on and on about their superiority against those evil men who want, you know, rights.
Looks like you’re doing well for yourself. I see Bi’s. tris, sluts, whores and all sorts of, let me kindly call them not cis gendered, types crawling around here taking shots at men, good job bro!
It’s like you are the pied piper of man hating deviants! I never knew you could come this far.
Keep that pussy begging going and I’m sure you can keep occasionally snagging a FB (Feminist Body) 4 or 5 (which is around a 1 or 2 for normal folks).
I hope your site continues to grow so I can read more about the whining and seething hatred from the defects of the world.
Thanks Dave,
Random Brother.
PS – Since he and I got along so well, can you please make sure that “yip, yip” aka Captain Bathrobe is doing okay curled up in his mistresses purse? After admitting that he’s neutered himself, as he put it to get rid of his toxic masculinity, I always worry he might snap and bite a small child on the ankle. Thanks Dave, you are the best pussy beggar in the world.
Oh man, I didn’t know the 5 second rule was debunked. However, that probably won’t stop me from eating a doughnut off the floor in the future, as long as the floor looks clean and I pick it up quickly. I read the article and realize that a clean looking floor probably isn’t sanitary, but the deliciousness of a doughnut is greater than my fear of bacteria.
Also, I figured a lot of misogynists’ problems with women could be summed up as “sour grapes”. Yeah, I know some MRA’s call that “Code purple” in their catalog of shaming tactics. They can call it a shaming tactic, but it’s still true, and now I can point at the Sciene Daily article to prove it.
Amazing that site is called science daily. A more apt name would be ideology daily since no facts are ever used in the conclusions that are drawn.
I see now why that particular site is the most widely used “scientific” site linked to by the feminist community.
After browsing the site I found plenty of scientific studies. This one was headlined, “Gender-Based Violence Associated With Lifetime Risk of Mental Illness and Disability”
Heres the link http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110802162329.htm
For starters you’d think a study on gender violence would include some info on violence perpetrated by women against men. Apparently that never happens.
Heres the first paragraph…”The survey of 4,451 women aged 16 to 85 used international instruments developed by the World Health Organisation. Around 15 percent of Australian women report sexual assault, while eight percent report being raped. About eight percent report physical intimate partner violence and 10 percent stalking.”
My guess is the “study” was done from women who had been assaulted/stalked/raped/injured. I’m guessing any study done of any group who have been injured in some way will show a higher rate of injury than a random study.
No matter where you go on this laughably named science daily site it’s all ideology. One would think with the title science they would actually use science to back up their claims. Unless of course it’s now the science of feminist ideology.
This would be probably the clearest example anyone could possibly give for why I say todays ideology based science/medical fields are junk.
Thanks for proving my point Dave!
What’s a “point Dave”, and why does it need proving?
Man, NWOSlave sounds like the asshats who talk about ‘activist judges’. “Ideology-based science” = “Science who’s results I don’t like”.
He’s rapidly burning my ability to feel pity for his sick ass out of him.
Ok, I have to say that this “Random Brother” character cracks me up with his categorizing the people who frequent this blog as “same old man haters, degenerates and bitter lesbians (sorry for the redundancy)” as well as “I see Bi’s. tris, sluts, whores and all sorts of, let me kindly call them not cis gendered, types.” And apparently feminists are the ones who are using shaming tactics. Too funny.
My guess is the “study” was done from women who had been assaulted/stalked/raped/injured.
You would prefer a study on the effects of gender based violence using people who weren’t victims of gender based violence? What would that prove exactly?
I’m guessing any study done of any group who have been injured in some way will show a higher rate of injury than a random study.
well yeah, in the same way a study of apples is going to reveal a higher rate of being fruit than a study of shit you can buy at wal-mart. i am not sure what your point is.
I am not the Gatekeeper. I am the Keymaster. There is no science, only Zuul!
A blast from the past! Random Brother has returned to Man Boobz!
Random Brother. meet NWOslave. NWOslave, meet Random Brother.
I have a feeling you two will get along swimmingly. You’re each like each other’s evil twin.
@Sharculese
A scientific study on gender based violence where no men are victims means men are never victims of gender based violence. Thats some pretty good science you feminists got there.
NWOSlave, it was an MRA who pointed me toward the site in the first place. Here. Look for FactFinder | August 9, 2011 at 12:53 am. If the site has content that undermines the MRA position, well, science is a two-edged sword, man. 😀
“That’s”.
Short for “that is”.
I have to switch screens to make an apostrophe, and I still have better grammar than you.
Put a little effort into it, dude.
@David Futrelle
You are 100% right. he seems like a great guy and a straight shooter.
Random Brother, rock on!
yes, in much the same was a study of feline aids that doesnt include any dead tigers means that no tigers are cats.
other stories from the latest issue of the journal of insane things: shark is dog, dying is good for you, and hitler was president of the moon
dead was supposed to be deadly
guys, my study of penniless super-genius engineers from the ghetto has concluded that one hundred per cent of them are totally fucking nuts
@spearhafoc
Theres bigger fish to fry other than my poor grammar. Besides, one more fault amongst my many is more fuel to burn me on the feminist fire.
Indeed! There’s also your terrible reading comprehension, your intellectual dishonesty, your dubious claims about your employment history and your scientific ignorance. The grammar boo-boos are just icing on the cake.
And I’ve noticed that you haven’t responded to my point about an MRA having pointed me toward Science Daily in the first place.
Random brother is random.
Actually, RB, you’ve been gone so long that the whole “dogs in a bag” meme is now ancient history. Nevertheless, we eagerly await new fruits of your fertilized, er, fertile mind.
And, what I’m supposed to be a Castrato now? I’ve never even taken voice lessons. Talk about a wasted opportunity.
Besides, RB, this is Big League Manboobz. I’m only a small fish here. You’ll want to be trying your stuff out on Ami, Spearhafoc, Pecunium, Kirby, Holly Pervocracy, Johnny Pez and the rest. Captain Bathrobe is so six months ago.
There’s also plenty of troll competition, so you’ll have to bring your “A” game. No more half-assing it. Think you’re up to the challenge?
There’s a good article about Narcissists and it fit exactly what MRAs are :
http://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/malignant-self-love/narcissists-and-women/menu-id-1469/
Another good article shows that narcissists are not good partners and love to play Games with their partners which is exactly what PUAs from the manosphere are doing.
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It turns out that those with positive self-views bordering on narcissism are usually miserable mates – selfish, manipulative, unfaithful and power hungry. Though they may at first seem charming and interested in a relationship, they soon look for dominance rather than delight.
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Clinical narcissism itself is a personality disorder affecting only about 1 percent of the population, but there are millions who share characteristics of narcissists to a greater or lesser degree. In general, true narcissists think very highly of themselves, are not very concerned with intimacy, and believe they are unique and smarter and more attractive than others. They often maintain these feelings by seeking and expressing superiority to or dominance over others.
The defining feature of those with narcissistic tendencies, the study found, is what the researchers call “game-playing love.” This is an approach in which the narcissist has an aversion to depending on a partner, is deceptive and often cheats. It allows a narcissist to maintain power and autonomy at the expense of his or her partner
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these people are often clueless when it comes to the affect their behavior has on others. In fact, the studies show they rarely think about others seriously at all and probably never consider the havoc they are creating in interpersonal relationships. One of the problems is that in general people like others who appear successful and confident, and narcissists appear that way, often to excess.
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These characteristics show why narcissists often find it easy to get dating partners but rarely have long-term relationships. And it’s more than a matter of just being Mr. Wrong. They simply see no downside to creating the persona they perceive as successful, and that success, alas, is rarely sated. People with low opinions of themselves may be especially easy prey for narcissists.
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the researchers were able to augment the self-reports with information from past and current dating partners of the participants in the study. In every case, the strategy of game-playing was paramount, and it led without question to serious problems in the relationships
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http://www.narcissism101.com/Narcissism_101/UniversityStudy.html
No no, you fugly feministos don’t understand, science and statistics are only good if you find them on an MRA site.
Also, Randumb Brother seems really butthurt that David might be getting more action than him.
I hope Megan Fox responds to your fanmail, RB!
Seriously, lets go over the scientific study.
“A total of 104 male undergraduates, aged 21 years on average, from a large university in the Midwest US took part in the study survey. Keiller looked at measures of narcissism, sexist attitudes toward women and traditional female stereotypes, sexist attitudes toward men and heterosexual male stereotypes, and attitudes toward gay men and lesbian women.”
So we have 104 random average men from the midwest for this study.
Point #1) Everyone of them is narcissistic. 100%
Point #2) Everyone of them has sexist attitudes towards hetro-women. 100%
Point #3) Everyone of them has sexist attitudes towards hetro-men. 100%
Point #4) Everyone of them has sexist attitudes towards gay men. 100%
Point #5) Everyone of them has sexist attitudes towards lesbians. 100%
I could go on with the rest of this blatant hatred of straight men but I think the begining of if says more than enough.
Point #1) I know you’re all so used to hearing how great women and the LGBTQ gang is so fucking great you consider that a default position and when I say men are fucking great it must really stick in your craw.
Points #2 & #3) To actually say and believe men and women aren’t interchangable and that they most definitely have different abilities might be heresy to feminist ideology but it isn’t sexism. Even though this highly scientific study proves otherwise, I’ll stick to actual science. It’s not sexist to state the truth.
Points #4 & #5) If straight men in general find the whole LGBTQ gang distasteful, that doesn’t make it sexist. Just because feminism says it’s good doesn’t mean it is. You, do not have the right, to dictate what anyone thinks. Have ya got that? Everyone of you has called me a homophobe, a word meant to shame me. Yet I’ve called none of you fags, dykes or trannys, words meant to shame you. You call me a bigot as well. Who are the real bigots? No one has to accept/or not say they don’t agree. And that doesn’t make them sexist. You saying they do have to accept is sexist.
Doesn’t bother me a bit when you say men are great. Men are great.
You just aren’t.
NWO Slave: “Everyone of you has called me a homophobe, a word meant to shame me. Yet I’ve called none of you fags, dykes or trannys, words meant to shame you. You call me a bigot as well.”
Randumb Bro: “I see Bi’s. tris, sluts, whores and all sorts of, let me kindly call them not cis gendered”
NWO Slave: “You are 100% right. he seems like a great guy and a straight shooter.
Random Brother, rock on!”
Fucking L.O.L
Um, NWO, you clearly are a great inventor. You found a way to communicate with an alternate world. Because, clearly, in your reality, psychological studies are way different. Just a small tip – looking “at measures of narcissism, sexist attitudes toward women and traditional female stereotypes, sexist attitudes toward men and heterosexual male stereotypes, and attitudes toward gay men and lesbian women.” =/= assuming everyone who took the survey was a sexist narcissist.
Congrats NWO you’ve just strawed yourself xD
To actually say and believe men and women aren’t interchangable and that they most definitely have different abilities might be heresy to feminist ideology but it isn’t sexism
It depends on what you say. xD You have an interesting way of interpreting how you’ve been behaving…
But let’s just take this one :3
What do you believe are the different abilities men and women generally have?
I don’t think anybody will disagree with you if you say “men are on average taller than women as a group”, even tho you seem to think feminists will.
So list them and see what the response to each one is 🙂
Points #4 & #5) If straight men in general find the whole LGBTQ gang distasteful, that doesn’t make it sexist. Just because feminism says it’s good doesn’t mean it is. You, do not have the right, to dictate what anyone thinks. Have ya got that? Everyone of you has called me a homophobe, a word meant to shame me. Yet I’ve called none of you fags, dykes or trannys, words meant to shame you. You call me a bigot as well. Who are the real bigots? No one has to accept/or not say they don’t agree. And that doesn’t make them sexist. You saying they do have to accept is sexist.
There’s plenty of feminists who thinks the T part isn’t good xD You can always listen to them if you want.
Who is trying to dictate what you THINK? You can think whatever you want. But ppl will disagree w/ you. xD Homophobe isn’t a slur, it’s a descriptive term for a person who doesn’t like gay ppl. Just like homosexual is a descriptive term. “Fag” is not, it’s a slur. xD (also we both know the only reason you don’t use those words is b/c you’d be banned by David, you said it yourself before that that’s the reason you don’t say tranny xD )
But since you feel that homophobe slurs you… what would be the “PC” word you would prefer ppl to use around you? xD
You’re the one who alleges gay agendas and stuff… you didn’t just say “personally I find anal sex distasteful and I wouldn’t do it”… would you like to retract all your other statements about queer ppl and just say that? :3
NWO and Random Brother are truly brothers from another mother.
Random Brother
I’ve seen you on other sites and trust me you are not normal.
Also I have seen by being black you’ve run across more then a few racist mra’s that have dismissed you, or have decided that by being a black male means you get any white pussy you wish. In other-words you are a thug in mra minds.
I would have thought you’d have gained a touch of empathy by now. Maybe you’re just pissed off that you’re not getting the thug action they say you are entitled to. Maybe you’re just like the study describes.
Hey it’s Random Brother! 😀
I dunno who you are, but I know you’re a former troll from one of the early MBZ seasons… ppl dun rly talk about the old trolls (except Eoghan since he still shows up xD and occasionally I’ve heard David mention Cold) 😀 If you stick around I’m pretty sure we’ll get to know each other quite well tho xD A lot has changed while you were gone!
*holds out hand* Hi! I’m Ami, I’m the Rodeocat :3
@Ami Angelwings
“Homophobe isn’t a slur”
Yeaaaaaa, I remember that term being tossed about in my history books. As a descriptive adjective when describing Ghengis Khan on homosexuals. Whoa, are you gonna have to lie way better than that. Even feminists aren’t gonna believe that whopper.
Wait what? xD
What did your history book say? o_O I don’t remember mine saying that.
Specifically what was the line and context? o:
Oooh, a troll blast from the past! This is gonna be fun.
@Ami Angelwings
I actually thought the name for straight man was heterosexual male, I didn’t realize homophobe was a seperate sexual denomination for a straight man who doesn’t support homosexuality.
Stop lying.