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R/conspiracy is vanilla (self.conspiracy)

NoNameAnarchist が 投稿

I've been reading this sub for a while now. There used to be many topics that would grab my attention, but I've come to realize that, yes, even in this sub there are norms. Just like on the rest of Reddit; things you can't mention or talk about because the community is not open to them. Ever read about Donald Marshall? Well if you did it probably wasn't here. Go read his website, talk about rabbit holes....

TL;Dr lets talk about the shit people don't want to; reptilians, cloning, transfer of consciousness, rape torture murder pay per views, child trafficking.... oh wait, we can't because this is r/conspiracy and rigging elections is as deep as it goes here. (Which is mainstream knowledge at this point....)

As exemplified perfectly by u/thunderbar1 : "reptilians, cloning, transfer of consciousness" - are you fucking retarded? You want to talk about actual conspiracies, you need to get into political stuff. It is what it is.

Lets talk about this response. This user doesn't like the topics, so the response is 'you're retarded, you NEED to get into politics, it is what it is (essentially 'Accept what you see in front of you')

Please tell me r/conspiracy what are the "actual conspiracies"?

First we are marginalized to groups like these, where we face further alienation if we don't adhere to the strict thinking. I guess the phrase "thought police" really comes to mind here...

And if you really are thinking (human) cloning is "fucking retarded", then you should probably consider that as of last year at least 70 countires have banned the technology.

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[–]Atypical_Black_Hat 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Browse the "new" queue. Don't pay attention to group think voting habits.

(Also, you could always try /r/C_S_T)

[–]cannibaloxfords 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I regularly go to 'New' in this sub and that's where the good stuff is. The front page of this sub is usually shillary and politics. I've submitted a good dozen or so interesting conspiracy links and only a few of them ever made it to front.

The biggest conspiracies imho, are spiritual warfare, enlightenment, consciousness transfer, A.I. take overs, alien, tech, illuminati satanists, and all that type of ilk. However I'm hoping once the election is over and Trump proves that we are again, in the same pickle (because he will be surrounded by all the same corporate interests that surround every president) then we can return to better topics

[–]Norman_Danks 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dude chill, it's the season and it will be discussed at nasium, but it will go away when it's time to.

I have been here for 5 years, it will go away entirely come december.

[–]RecklessRatRedditor 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

For reals. This sub is almost always disappointing in spite of my extreme interest in the subject.

For anyone interested, Annie Jacobsen is an awesome researcher... most likely connected not privvy to disclosing all her info, but interesting none the less.

Then on the science front a lot more could be talked about... Human germline modification, overunity devices, programming viruses to build electronics... Last one catch your eye? Angela Belcher. Crazy mad scientist woman. When you consider the things she dabbles in, it kinda makes you appreciate technological suppression.

[–]monicahi 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you have a better place, I am all ears. This guy named LordRothschild or something like that, who I have seen very little from lately, I have a feeling he found some place better than this. Because he provided good, real good stuff, in my eyes.

If you know something, let me know. And I wont ever link it anywhere, because.. Quality over quantity.

[–]themeanbeaver 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

Reddit is another gated forum to contain real issues affecting the average person. Your post is perfect example.

The real fucking conspiracy that should matter to you is rigged elections, how they are destroying our environment and food and the political elite class using us as a slaves, and stripping away our natural freedom to move and live as we like.

Aliens, reptilians are fucking sci-fi distraction for supposed freethinkers, it's fucking crowd control bullshit.

Like fucking grown men who like sci-fi star trek bullshit but fucking can't think outside the box to question the validity of their animated space program that isn't real. Instead they are brainwashed to dream of fake animated space and do not question our current scam program eating billions of dollars. Spot the scam.

They us got so lost that NASA's bullshit Apollo program is considered taboo conspiracy cause fucking Joe Rogan and Alex Jones don't support it or in Rogan's case, he back peddled after sucking in large conspiracy minded people. Bait and switch.

I would like to add a royal fuck you to all cointelpro assholes Joe Rogan, Alex jones, and David Icke. Fuck the gatekeepers! I see your game.

Fuck the conspiracy distraction bullshiters who peddle sci-fi conspiracy shit to make us forget our real cage and our real problems ailing us all.

You think you are awake but you can't see the walls they get you to build around yourselves. Aliens and reptilians is where they derail you from the Truth. Don't lose yourself in bullshit they lay for us to follow.

[–]NoNameAnarchist[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Rigged elections do matter, but I'm here for fringe topics, things the mainstream aren't already talking about...

It's ironic that you are talking about thinking outside the box while disparaging anything that doesn't fit in yours....

[–]dopeedits 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Subscribe to the higher side chats.

And Donald Marshall is not really credible. Just listen to the podcast. I can not take anything he says at face value.

[–]NoNameAnarchist[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

See, this Donald Marshall stuff is new to me. And I'm not saying he's credible by any means,. It's just a disappointment that we can't discuss it because everyone's too busy telling each other what theoires are impossible and calling each other retarded.

[–]dopeedits 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes thats very unfortunate and makes me check out most subs way less.

[–]themeanbeaver 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You think don't there was a time when I looked into what Alex Jones and Joe Rogan were saying?Then you start to see, No 911 deep conversations, no NASA Hoax program, no False Flags.... it wasn't hard to figure what kinda gatekeepers these guys are.

[–]NaoTapar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

reptilians, cloning, transfer of consciousness, rape torture murder pay per views, child trafficking..

To be fair there is some of this good stuff

There are a lot of soft topic too

[–]areyoufor_realbreh 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That was the point of making this sub more visible. The admins aimed to flood it with hive mind retards who speak in memes and only care about parroting comfortable, popular opinions for upvotes.

[–]mjesmjes 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I checked out donaldmarshallrevolution.com, much theory, little conspiracy. Interesting if you want to read a scary stories. I read to the part where he said Paul Walker maybe was killed because he invested in a company called Bitcoin.

[–]do_you_even_liftbro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Right? Linking to a guy who gives no proof of what he's saying and i am to believe this shit? This looks a lot like disinformation to delegitimize other posts here.

[–]Chillypill 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We don't talk about reptilians because the "Proof" David Icke has presented is little to none, while these tings we do talk about actually have proof. It is important to stay on track with whats factual

[–]Another-Chance 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If the mods had any real guts they would delete the politics shit.

Top story right now: An article about a blog post that got deleted about hillary.

So, you know what people believe now?? If a web site deletes an obvious troll post that it is a conspiracy and warrants a thread here.

Dumb as hell. People who don't want to post in politics are using this sub.

Also, users here (and across reddit) abuse the downvote button - especially to keep people from posting more often (time resets). I see that here all the time. It is not a disagree button, but obviously some people cannot read too well.

No shocker though when some posters who hate hillary will post anything at all about her and consider it a conspiracy. Maybe the conspiracy is they are being made to post shit like that here.

[–]mr_dong [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Try /r/HighStrangeness for some more fringe articles and stories.

I agree with OP that /r/conspiracy does seem to get bogged down with far too much election material at the mo. Hopefully this will change after the elections.

[–]Putin_loves_cats 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

"That makes us look bad!!!"./ ugh.

I'm sick of that tiresome comment. I agree. This place has become something else. "God" forbid I talk about things and the storm troopers come in saying: "This is what makes us bad, this is why we don't have "credit"". FFS people, perspective.

[–]Shillmasterbaiter -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah! Let's talk about reptilians!

[–]Tunderbar1 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

You want to talk about fictional "what might be out there" scenarios. Go to the fiction section.

"reptilians, cloning, transfer of consciousness" - are you fucking retarded?

You want to talk about actual conspiracies, you need to get into political stuff. It is what it is.

[–]NoNameAnarchist[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

You have provided a great example. Thank you.

For everyone else please read the above omment, it is an attack, calling the OP retarded. And for what? Because topics were brought up that the replier has already assumed as fictional. Pretty much the same model as the rest of Reddit

[–]Tunderbar1 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

I apologize for the personal attack. Not usually my style.

But.... I don't consider illogical, nonsensical, and scientifically impossible "conspiracy theories" to be valid points of discussion here.

I'm simply not interested in fictional nonsense.

[–]NoNameAnarchist[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Have you ever read about the scientific community, and the mountains of falsified research? Sorry, but religions will leave you close minded. Science is your religion.

And if you followed it closely at all, you'd know that cloning was achieved nearly two decades ago

[–]Tunderbar1 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Have you ever read about the scientific community, and the mountains of falsified research?

Yes I have. But that involves stuff like nutrition and vitamins, pharmaceuticals, global warming, etc.

But "reptilians, cloning, transfer of consciousness"? Come on.

[–]Korlis 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's partially this closed-mindedness that the OP is talking about...

I sincerely doubt that there are reptiles living at the centre of the earth and are infiltrating the upper echelons of society to control us. But I don't know, and an open mind isn't a bad thing.

Excercising an open mind is a great way to not fall into the "your outlandish ideas are fucked, mine totally make sense" trap...

I know cloning is a thing. We've been able to clone full on people for years and years. Lots of countries banned is as soon as they realized is was a thing that we could do.

Consciousness transfer? Why not? Lucid dreaming, astral projection, remote viewing... consciousness can be directed, why not transferred?

[–]Tunderbar1 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's partially this closed-mindedness that the OP is talking about...

Part of the need for this type of subreddit is for people to put forward credible evidence. Have at her. Make it clear and succinct. I have enough of an open mind to read it.

I sincerely doubt that there are reptiles living at the centre of the earth and are infiltrating the upper echelons of society to control us. But I don't know, and an open mind isn't a bad thing.

An open mind does not mean that I will suspend my need for credible evidence.

Excercising an open mind is a great way to not fall into the "your outlandish ideas are fucked, mine totally make sense" trap...

Some ideas are fucked. It is what it is.

I know cloning is a thing. We've been able to clone full on people for years and years. Lots of countries banned is as soon as they realized is was a thing that we could do.

Cloning of humans is possible and is likely happening. Not the end of the world. Let's say you clone Hitler. Without the experience of his upbringing and the experience he had in WWI and the political situation in Germany and the political opportunities, etc. the clone will just be another kid growing up working trying to feed and clothe himself and his family just like the rest of us.

Consciousness transfer? Why not? Lucid dreaming, astral projection, remote viewing... consciousness can be directed, why not transferred?

Maybe. So what? Seriously. What implications does this have to my everyday life? As opposed to pharmaceutical related conspiracies, or GMOs, or the global warming scam, or simply politicians conspiring to enrich themselves by selling their influence? Or the militarization of police depts.?

We have to pick our battles. There are real conspiracies going on every day that are essentially commoditizing our lives and causing us direct physical or financial harm. You want to speculate about consciousness transfers or cloning or reptiles, go for it. I will gladly read some or all of it before I decide to downvote it.

What I would suggest is another subreddit for this stuff. This one is r/conspiracy, and we discuss conspiracies. You may want to create one named something like r/conspiracytheory or something like that where you can discuss highly dubious and likely unprovable claims.

[–]Korlis [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Well first.

This isn't r/socialjustice So the things posted in this sub don't have to result in great change or opening the eyes of the sheeple.

I won't argue that an election system that forces you to choose between a bigoted, money-hungry psychopath who has no concept of who "the people" are, and jesus fucking Donald Trump is significantly more important, and should get more time than reptiles and clone armies.

But that said, how does that affect your daily life? Besides making you angry? You can't change it, maybe your entire populace can't at this point... so how is it different than consciousness transfer? Knowing about it won't alter your life, nor will it spur you on to feats of great justice and progressive change.

Information is not heavy, and since no one is telling you to take reptilians as hand-to-god truth... what does it matter if someone says they think there maybe lizardmen living at the core of the planet?

I like to look at this sub as a what if machine... what if there are aliens? What if there is a society in the centre of the earth, what if we have colonies on mars, what if i can upload myself into a machine, or a dog, or another human mind...?

Fun things to think about, thought exercises. Having an open mind isn't about knowing that the bad people to bad things and we get screwed by them, it's not immediately dismissing something because it doesn't fit into what you "know" is true.

Men in Black (fitting for a conspiracy sub) said it best: "1,500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody knew that the Earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow."

Everything is silliness and impossibility until we actually prove it...

[–]Tunderbar1 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Not disagreeing with you. I'm just trying, like the rest of us, to figure out how the system works.

[–]Korlis [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Touché... aren't we all...

Sometimes I like a dose of the whimsical or astonishing with my doom and gloom. Lol

[–]CelestialPhoenix 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

To be fair it is near election time (election year) in the USA.

[–]RecklessRatRedditor 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

What is there to talk about? Elections are rigged on a number of levels and they taught you about it in high school. Go to r/politics if you wanna follow the election. I guess I am just jaded that Santa has more of a chance of being elected Potus than the US becoming 'great again'.

[–]CelestialPhoenix 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isnt r/politics a cesspool and shenanigan racket where they censor stuff just because? The top posts here relate to the election and not on only policies its also mainly conspiracy related.

[–]Denmark1976 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit

Here we go, me attempting to tiptoe around the hot potato! I have had my fair share of warnings...

  • 1) All the major Reddit subs are being censored extensively. It happens from behind the scene, a block box contraptions by design, to control the flow of information on Reddit. If your post contains articles or reveal crimes about the following: The US Military, US Intelligence Community, T.B.T.F. Financial Institutions, Mega Corporations, US Politics, US Economic Data, Inequality and Social Unrest, the Corporate Owned Mass Media or well connected individuals you might get targeted.

  • 2) Their favorite methods: 1) Algorithms that automatically detect specific wordings 2) Banning of certain independent media outlets. 3) Subtle vote rigging. 4) Manual removal of posts (last resort). 5) Intimidation. 6) Banning of accounts. 7) Allowing trolling by Shills & Pundits. It is a very smooth and professional operation.

  • 3) A core of loyal followers and employees. If they don't want you to see what is going on, you won't s see it. By design, we can't fully observe the process, nor can we tell the entities apart. We can make patient observations. We can take notes. Patterns emerges. We are not allowed to talk about our observations or criticize "them", that would be a violation of rule #2 #5 #10. Catch 17 22!

  • 4) Reddit has been censoring users and independent media sources for years with an increasing zeal, they are censoring them because they are compromising the narratives of the Corporate Owned Mass Media. They punch holes in the official scenery of propaganda, fear, polarization and lies. The recipe for destroying the corporate propaganda is straight forward: Data and fact driven journalism with a high degree of integrity. Reddit is owned by Advanced Publication Inc a de facto Corporate Owned Mass Media outlet.

  • 5) (As an Example) There is a lot of racist postings on the front page of r/conspiracy, thinly disguised as "conspiracy anti-Israel posts". They constantly make up 10-20% of the front page volume if you don't repeatedly remove them. There is a lot of wedge issues, pitching various groups against each other, thinly disguised as conspiracies. On top of that you can add irrelevant trivia, celebrity gossip, all designed to distract and entertain. What you have left is maybe 5% of relevant content. This is how "they" are dumbing down the conspiracy forum and Reddit in general, a mere shadow if its former glory, an echo valley for idiots padding each other on the back. People kind of know, everything looks more and more like CNN and BBC, while the intelligentsia is fleeing the forum.

This is the reason Reddit r/Conspiracy has become diluted and "vanilla" just a shadow of its former self!

[–]CiitizenOne 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you. Even more concerning than the lack of paticular topics is the way other, more mainstream topics are posited. A user here just cross-posted from r/The_Donald recycled garbage: an old YouTube video of an even older message from Ron Paul (which isn't a bad thing) asserting that Bernie isn't on the side of transparency. Any thinking citizen can look up the audit vote: Bernie voted in favor of the audit, along with the Republicans. With no real discussion of how they "watered down the bill", and completely ignoring Bernie's stance in the end, you have people on --this-- sub of all places touting severe ignorance to a level of Trump supporters on a thread where any post exposing the mistake is, by their own rules, both bannable and deserving of redicule. Making America great again both here and there, huh?

I stopped lurking this morning to join in on lively discussion. Only 4 hours into my participation and I'm considering giving up on this sub since we seem to be stifling each other.

And not to brag, but I am the redditor who gave gold 8 times over to u/LawOfAttraction33 for this UNBELEIVABLY well researched post that should be stickied and discussed just as much as Osama-bin-ah-get-over-it-we-all-know-he-died-years-ago, yet we're stuck on the dumb things Hillary and Trump say?

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1cm0t3/original_research_the_mountain_of_evidence_for_a/

Edit: spelling, and I'd like to add, that sadly I didn't notice before gilding that said user has been inactive for 3 years :( Come back you awesome user, you!

[–]rings_of_saturn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Should focus on real world, not fantasy bullshit.

[–]Orangutan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Follow things that can be proven in a court of law. Investigative journalism is what is sorely lacking in our society at the current moment.

[–]ThatguyfromWork11 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

THANK YOU FOR THIS POST !

[–]pjvex -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's the purpose of a sub such as /r/conspiracy? That's the question the OP needs to ask himself.

If it is to create a mutually masturbatory echo chamber, then by all means discuss these topics, for you will rarely if ever, draw in new people, and will never have the opportunity to enlighten them.

I'd prefer topics such as reptilians, cloning, transfer of consciousness, Jesuits, nation states of D.C., London, and Vatican to not be discussed here in this sub...I'd even suggest to some degree not talking about chemtrails (at least not use that word in such discussions).

I'm not commenting on the validity of any of those topics, but what I'm doing is trying to make this sub welcoming to new members. I don't want people to stop in and see posts on UFOs, reptilian shape-shifters, and moon landings hoaxes, because they will simply turn around, leave and never return, and worse, they will thereafter more strongly believe in the media's pejorative use of the label "Conspiracy Theorist". A label which portrays us as necessarily wearing tinfoil hats and acting like we're overdue for our 2x daily thorazine shot.

If you want to discuss these other topics, create a sub called "deepconspiracies" or something.

I for one don't believe sitting in a sub with a semi-static membership growth. The point of discussing conspiracies is to enlighten others as to their truth. And to do that, you have to start with the most important and plausible topics.