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[–]jjand302 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was with you all the way up to aliens and Duke. Besides that little bit, there definitely is bias going around. Reviewers marked things as negatives in other games that but aren't bothered when its in overwatch. But hey, blizzard Activision has deep pockets.

[–]OnnaJReverTRogues yo 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

leaving OW aside, one of the problems with reviewing games like Battleborn is that it asks for a much bigger time-investment than many reviewers are willing (or able) to give

[–]-redditardation- 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

You are delusional and looking at it through rose-tinted glasses.

Battleborn does fill a niche that makes it very appealing to a specific kind of gamer. Overwatch on the other hand perfectly fills the void left by Team Fortress 2 aging.

At the end of the day no matter how strongly you feel one way or the other the reality is the review score, average player count and longevity of the two games will speak for itself.

[–]Panicradar 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well yes and no. Is BB better than OW? Ehh maybe that's a matter of preference but is OP right in saying OW is unnecessarily getting near perfect to perfect scores? Yeah he is, especially when it does a lot of the same things BB did wrong, specifically it got called out on a lack of content for it's $60 price tag, the objective based gameplay is not clearly explained to beginners, and multiplayer gameplay begins to feel repetitive after awhile (mostly due to the lack of maps and modes).

[–]jjand302 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's kinda the point. Yes blizzard has a bigger fan base. But reviewers are letting this game slide on things other games are bashed for. Star wars battlefront and street fighter V? Both very well polished games, with roughly the same "lack of content" (which battlefront had a lot more), got bashed by reviews for such. Hell this game has microtransactions yet is a full priced game. That all adds up to bias or rose-tinted glasses for reviewers. So that's the point op wanted to make. Reviewers say screw when other games make the same mistake, blizzard made this.

The only thing that time will truly tell is the longevity of this and others like bb.

[–]Robodingo 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

They actually have the same number of modes.

Overwatch has: koth, capture point attack/defend, payload escort, and a hybrid payload/capture point. but you can't queue for a specific one but it's fine because it plays like team deathmatch

Battleborn has: capture, incursion, and meltdown, and a story

The problem is Battleborn was marketed as a competitor in the "hero shooter" genre instead of as a tactical shooter or Moba. Now even though people have accepted that it's a "Moba" it's still being compared to overwatch because they failed to identify themselves.

I don't think that the overwatch praise is undeserved. I think the Battleborn hate is. Blizzard has nigh infinite money, a year of a polished alpha and convention demo data, a year of closed beta, and a week of open beta with millions of players contributing matchmaking and balance data as well as feedback(most of it worthless but some well considered). If you're going to compare anything to overwatch it's not going to stand a chance simply due to blizzard's funding, experience, and resources when it comes to development. If blizzard had 2 years to work on a game genre as simple as "shooter" of course they are going to dominate it.

[–]Beta382 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

The problem is Battleborn was marketed as a competitor in the "hero shooter" genre instead of as a tactical shooter or Moba.

2K actually came up with the term "Hero Shooter", although I agree that it should have been marketed as a MOBA.

[–]Robodingo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure they made up the term but it's hardly new. It's like how league made up the term Moba but dota started as a Warcraft III mod

[–]ChillinFallinPhoebe 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anyone else notice how Battleborn has more modes, more heroes, more gameplay types, real single player, etc...

No it doesn't, they're equal in modes. A few more heroes, but Blizz also said more are coming. Real single player? You call that a real single player? Uncharted 4, MGS 5, Borderlands those are real single player campaigns. The one in BB is a mind numbing boring horde mode mostly.

There is a legit hate mob against Gearbox for no reason

Uhh there are quite a few reasons.

They reinvented Duke Nukem, and they made the first real Aliens game that didn't completely suck.

Have you even played those games? Both of them turned out shit especially after Randy lied his way to launch. Randy Pitchford is one of the main reasons Gearbox is hated, and Duke Nukem and Aliens made things even worse.

Does OW deserve perfect scores? No, and the metacritic number will drop. But the game is incredibly well polished, well balanced, well designed, looks beautiful and smooth and plays amazing. Battleborn is a mess in comparison.

[–]NyuuPinguRocket to the face, Yo! 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't remember the time where reviews weren't biased.

Review score directly correlate with game hype. Has always been like this

[–]Gr0nkSpike 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do agree with most of you points. Overwatch is a shallow game but the same people that found TF2 fun will find Overwatch fun as well. I just can't spend $40-$60 dollars on a game I can play for free in TF2. Maybe one day when the prices drop. Most people knock BB because you can't switch heroes on the fly, that is actually one of my favorite features, you need good team comp and picking characters becomes part of the strategy. I believe you actually need a brain to play BB, OW all you need to do is jump and shoot.

[–]Douglas_P_Quaid 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Overwatch definitely doesn't deserve perfect scores, but it's a much better designed and executed game than Battleborn.

Battleborn is getting dumped on in reviews because of the terrible UI, terrible aesthetics, terrible character designs, grind elements/persistence in a $60 retail game, and the fact that it doesn't do moba nearly as well as a game like DOTA2.

I dislike Blizzard and I would love to come on here and slag on Overwatch, but the fact is that Overwatch is actually a competently executed TF2 successor with some appealing elements, while Battleborn is a trainwreck that's had its price slashed less than three weeks after release and is already going the way of EVOLVE.

You may downvote this, because you don't like to read it, but it's the honest truth. There is a reason that Battleborn is struggling and has reviewed poorly, and that is because it's a mess that is only appealing to a very small demographic of players.

[–]iLickBurntToast 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think calling it a mess is kind of the wrong way of going abut things. BB failed because of its lack of developer support through marketing. Blizzard was able to push Overwatch's brand because Blizzard is a prestigious gaming company. Gearbox however is still a very successful gaming company but borderlands in one of the only known games made by them. The reliability people have in Blizzard is high because of its reputation of a gaming powerhouse that makes great games. They had the funding to get overwatch to the places it needed to be while Gearbox struggled and didn't build up much hype.

[–]barret232hxcReyna -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

b/c overwatch is for casuals , anyone can jump in and play it. Battleborn requires skill and strategy and you can't just run and gun like cod

I try not to hold too much against duke nukem and aliens bc those were both projects they tried to rescue and save and there just should of been no attempt

[–]MrFluffemsBoldur -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reviews are made to get views and likes so they review based on what they think the masses will want to hear. Simple as that. Reviews are worthless.