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/uj What's Gamingcirclejerk's Opinion on Esports? (self.Gamingcirclejerk)

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Curious to see what people think about Esports becoming more popular and all of the controversies surrounding it.

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[–]iamaneviltaco 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's like anything else competitive. There'll always be a market for watching people be the very best at it. Did you know there's a sport based around tossing pizza dough? I used to be a pizza guy, I was moderately into it for a while.

[–]jdsrockin 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is definitely a 90's website. The gif in the sidebar, the awful colors, a compressed banner... I love it.

[–]iamaneviltaco 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pizza companies all go to the same one guy to get all of their sites done. His name is Paolo, and he's really enthusiastic about it, but getting on in the years. His eyesight isn't what it used to be, but we can pay him in mortadella and high fives, which is nice. Guy's house smells like bologna and cats, though.

I hear he's the third cousin of that Steve guy that does the layout for all of Bethesda's UIs.

[–]EnthusiasticMuffin 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

Idk why esports players are called athletes and why they believe it's the same as a sport.

[–]iamaneviltaco 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

To be fair, golf is a sport.

[–]Noob616 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

They're not sports but they're just as legitimate and difficult competitions as any sport.. For me playing Dota in a regular 5 man team feels very much like when I played hockey on an organized team growing up, it's the exact same type of emotions, teamwork, strategy, and execution as any sport I've played, just without the physical exertion side of it.

It's like golf, chess, poker, darts, pool, car racing, etc. None of those things are sports but they get treated as sports because they're just as legitimately competitive. I agree though, I don't like esports as a term and I don't know why they're not just called competitive games or something. Nobody calls pro poker "cardSports", and nobody calls a pro poker player an athlete. Even with golf, people just go with pro golf and call the competitors pro golfers.

[–]JJ_Spicket 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, there is plenty of "Motorsports"

[–]Rockworm503 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

reminds me of this

[–]toonmaster90 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I personally don't mind it. I sometimes pop into VGbootcamp's Smash Streams and watch some Smash bros tournaments. If people wanna have fun and make money playing video games, more power to them for chasing their dreams.

[–]AmericanCobra 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love it, at least I love watching games I understand. I think the energy around MOBA tournaments is great but I can't watch them since it's all so confusing. Now, Halo 5 tournaments I can and do definitely get into. I would like to see more "standardization" in the sense of team colors/armor designs ingame during the tournaments, and even seeing it come on TV. I'd love to see esports get more popular, honestly.

[–]belgarionx 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate it. Competition was good in their small circles but now everything needs to be a competition.

Back in 2010, LoL was one of the best online games I've played. Why? Because it was fun, even if you lost a match, you weren't wasting your time. Now I only play 1-2 ARAM matches on a week and that's all.

[–]thesch 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't "get it". I don't really understand why spectators would want to go to some arena to watch people play video games (or why they'd get invested in it in general unless they're gambling on it).

If you're into it it's cool though. I'm into regular sports and I'm sure some people don't really understand why people like those either. Different strokes.

This is only kinda related but I really dislike the prevalence of twitch and things that come with that like "SALT!!" and the kappa emote.

[–]Noob616 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's basically the same as regular sports. I'm a fan of sports teams because they're the team my parents cheered for, or because they're from near where I grew up, or I like their style of play. I'm a fan of gaming teams because they have players from my country, because I like their style of play, or for certain Smash Bros. players because they play the same character as me. It's just more fun to have a rooting interest and there's an endless amount of storylines to pick from. Going to watch it live is for the crowd hype, it's fun to watch and cheer with thousands of people, just like with regular sports.

As for the whole concept of watching games in general, it's the same as sports to me. I like watching hockey, baseball, and american football on TV because I played the sports and I like watching the skill and strategies of the best players. Same with games, for me I follow Dota 2 and Smash Bros Melee, both games with an infinite skill ceiling where I'm familiar enough with the games to appreciate just how skilled the players are and the strategies they use.

[–]vexoskeleton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only esport I have any personal vested interest in is smash melee and that's because I play it and personally want to do very well at it

[–]Rockworm503 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't get why people like go to stadiums and watch people throw a ball into a hoop either. I find basketball far more enjoyable when I'm playing it myself even if I'm lazy and terrible at it lol.

[–]katzen_kratzen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I followed the LoL esport scene for all the seasons before the last one. The game got really boring for me to play and watching games became boring as well.

I went to Dota 2 international two times too. Watching esports played live is not fun at all compared to watching something like basketball, ice hockey or soccer.

Also the discussion around the esport aspect is such low quality that it makes even the most idiotic online sports forums look like shining beacon of reason.

[–]Choubugioxkei 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

in general: if it expands the audience for console/pc gaming, without being irrecoverably toxic, then it's good for me--more people to potentially play the kinds of games i actually play.

personally: i have three older brothers, and we have all always liked games. i did a lot of watching people playing videogames when i was a kid. it wasn't for fun--it's because i myself wanted to play. watching other people play games just reminds me that i could be playing a videogame.

[–]thinkadrian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm okay with it, it's something you can get good at like any other sport.

Too much doping, though, in form of caffeine tablets and drugs.

As a spectator sport I don't understand how LoL can be popular. It's fun to play but boring as hell to watch!

Is there FIFA E-sports, btw? :D

[–]Rockworm503 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly haven't been paying attention.

[–]Irenarch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of 'e-sports' is just a rebranding and expansion of existing phenomena; fighting games and FPSes, among others, have had high-level competitive scenes for a long time. I think the name is kind of silly, since (at least as I see it) it's supposed to suggest mainstream legitimacy on par with actual sports, which is an... odd position given some of the more embarrassing things self-identified 'gamers' have been up to as of late. The idea of gamers being 'athletes' has always struck me as a complete paradox, too.

But while I recognize that it's a thing, I'm not a fan of it by any means. I've tried watching e-sports before, but the commentators are all too often completely uncharismatic and nasal. The viewer culture often seems like the type to shit on people who watch real-world sports and then go back to watching League streams and get heavily invested in inter-team drama.

That doesn't affect me, of course, but what does is all the kids who watch e-sports streams and turn into "Stop Having Fun" Guys (warning: TVTropes link) -- the kind of "No Items Fox Only Final Destination" shit that is usually a complete bastardization of the game to satiate some arbitrary metric of 'skill'. It's like kids whining about the random spread of a rifle in Halo, because theoretically someone of a lesser skill level could kill them by random chance; it's just an excuse for getting taken out without needing to adjust one's self-perception of being a Good Player (TM). It makes it frustrating playing a lot of multiplayer games without someone whining about how whatever they can't beat is "unfair", and sometimes the developers listen to the whine.