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[–]Monosodium_Glutamate 4125ポイント4126ポイント  (80子コメント)

If prohibition has taught us anything it is that people will just make violent video games in their bathtubs.

[–]dj_ghostcat 174ポイント175ポイント  (6子コメント)

First Person Scrubber.

[–]staticx19 103ポイント104ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Git gud scrub" just became the title of a walkthrough, rather than an insult

[–]WeimarRepublic 1943ポイント1944ポイント  (93子コメント)

Does this mean I will soon be able to buy video games at my nearest gas station?

[–]GarrioValere 786ポイント787ポイント  (39子コメント)

I... bought one of the WoW expansions at 7/11...

[–]Reive 455ポイント456ポイント  (32子コメント)

7/11 also has this awesome habit of breaking embargo and selling games before their release dates.

[–]c2darizzle 257ポイント258ポイント  (22子コメント)

Can confirm. Got GH: Metallica a week early. Got so many views on YouTube for my shitty videos :D

[–]Freeballa 53ポイント54ポイント  (6子コメント)

64 Ounces of Diabetes and my favorite MMO all rolled into one.

[–]treemister1 29ポイント30ポイント  (2子コメント)

You just won't be able to play them outside your home and designated businesses

[–]Andrebatman 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Picked up Halo Wars from a 7/11 back in the day, fuckin great random purchase!

[–]Tabe12 4921ポイント4922ポイント  (692子コメント)

Yes, I played Kerbal space program and now I am head of NASA.

Holy Macaroni! Thank you for the gold!

[–]Greywolfin 1356ポイント1357ポイント  (72子コメント)

I played sonic now I am http://i.imgur.com/Ghyi9nL.jpg

[–]DubhGrian 939ポイント940ポイント  (80子コメント)

I played Minecraft for an hour and now I run my own Copper mine in Nevada. Thanks Hillary Clinton!

[–]jeffsterlive 273ポイント274ポイント  (43子コメント)

I mine lapis lazuli and am now my own jeweler. Thanks Hillary Clinton!

[–]StephenJEdwards 447ポイント448ポイント  (19子コメント)

I tried punching a tree and broke my hand. If video games were made illegal this could've been avoided.

[–]Barteringram 171ポイント172ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm currently serving 30 years for stomping on turtles. Hillary could have saved this from happening.

[–]NightmarePulse 18ポイント19ポイント  (7子コメント)

Let's start a petition and ask people on this subreddit to sign.

[–]durd 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sorry, I have not played the petition signing video game, and would not know how to accomplish this.

Could you maybe ask me to murder a prostitute? I have that one down.

[–]CharmingJack 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Would it go something like...

We the undersigned would like Hillary Clinton to shut the fuck up regarding issues she knows nothing about.

[–]kaywalsk 100ポイント101ポイント  (4子コメント)

I play lots of those Japanese dating / fuck simulators, why don't I have an anime waifu yet :'(

[–]nfaguy 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes, I've played Fallout 4 for thirty hours and now I'm a junk collector.

[–]blaahhhhhhhhh 15ポイント16ポイント  (17子コメント)

But video games also help with hand eye coordination, cognitive skills, and lots of other mental activities. I think if she is going to say this she needs clear examples...

If playing video games are violent and cause violence why don't movies? Movies like (rampage) and all that other bullshit? What about books that usually offer even more detail and that the reader tends to form an even stronger more personal relationship with...

[–]NSA_IS_SCAPES_DAD 20ポイント21ポイント  (10子コメント)

You're missing the point. It has been proven time and time again that there is no correlation. Hilary is just a retard, and needs to read more and talk less. This isn't 1995. This got proven wrong over a decade ago.

[–]TacoShirtTuesday 2496ポイント2497ポイント  (161子コメント)

Can confirm

I played goat simulator

Am now a goat

[–]tanne_sita_jallua 603ポイント604ポイント  (105子コメント)

I played Leisure Suit Larry and have sex frequently with swim suit models everyday. The soon to be wizard said.

[–]angry_parakeet 451ポイント452ポイント  (93子コメント)

I played American Truck Simulator and now I am a truck.

[–]ShamanSTK 401ポイント402ポイント  (47子コメント)

I played Kirby, am fat.

[–]TheMrBoot 294ポイント295ポイント  (26子コメント)

Weird, I played Kirby too, but now I eat people.

[–]Minus30 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I played minesweeper, got hit by an IED

[–]YouAreAGoat 52ポイント53ポイント  (8子コメント)

Correct. You are.

Source: Expert goat identifier.

[–]dorf_physics 103ポイント104ポイント  (20子コメント)

I played Dwarf Fortress and now I'm racist against elves.

[–]Baelor_the_Blessed 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

Look, some of the elves are good people, but they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. We've got to build a wall across the border with Eriador

[–]dorf_physics 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

A wall made of wood. Menacing with spikes of masterfully worked elf bone.

[–]Cirevam 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is an exceptional apricot wood wall commissioned by Urist McTrump. It menaces with spikes of masterfully worked elf bone and is decorated with hanging rings of elf leather. On the item is an image of a dwarf and elves in native gold. The dwarf is surrounded by the elves. The dwarf is striking a triumphant pose. The elves are making a plaintive gesture.

[–]captainvideoblaster 96ポイント97ポイント  (10子コメント)

I played Castlevania. Now I am vampire hunter. At this economy, business is scarce.

[–]notavriend 44ポイント45ポイント  (2子コメント)

True, played Crusader Kings and now I'm the incest ridden Saoshyant who rules all Persia

[–]bokavitch[S] 581ポイント582ポイント  (68子コメント)

Strange, it made me join Hamas.

[–]TheTurtleyTurtle 254ポイント255ポイント  (53子コメント)

I played Dr. Mario and am now a doctor.

[–]notbobby125 122ポイント123ポイント  (16子コメント)

Can I have a prescription for several hundred blue pills please? I think I am infected with too much blue.

[–]rossputman 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hello I have 100 hours on Big Pharma so i am now doctor, you should take yellow pills to turn green, green is go so is good.

[–]zwart27 56ポイント57ポイント  (4子コメント)

"Is anyone here a doctor!?" "I played dr mario once"

[–]Garfield_ 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

To quote Squizzle from bash.org: "Do not let Dr. Mario touch your genitals. He is not a real doctor."

[–]monstertugg 23ポイント24ポイント  (9子コメント)

i played pacman and now im fat

[–]SamuraiENIX 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

I enjoy a little garlic hamas from time to time.

[–]Snaz5 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

They both DO have a lot of suicide missions...

[–]illegalwaffles 228ポイント229ポイント  (30子コメント)

I played Half Life, now I'm an MIT graduate and theoretical physicist.

[–]Zeero92 123ポイント124ポイント  (17子コメント)

But all you do is push trolleys and connect power cables.

[–]EL_ClD 120ポイント121ポイント  (5子コメント)

push trolleys and connect power cables cleverly

FTFY

[–]LordCharco_iii 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

push trolleys, connect power cables cleverly, and crouch-jump over everything taller than knee-height

FTFY

[–]m00fire 81ポイント82ポイント  (6子コメント)

'Good work flipping that switch Dr. Freeman. I can see your MIT education is really starting to pay off'

[–]Randolpho 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gordon doesn't need to hear all that. He's a highly trained professional.

[–]Banana_Man2260 19ポイント20ポイント  (6子コメント)

I played Rollercoaster Tycoon. Now I operate a successful theme park.

[–]VileTouch 1192ポイント1193ポイント  (68子コメント)

if a video game is able to trigger your violent instincts, you have bigger problems than video games

[–]zomgitsduke 411ポイント412ポイント  (28子コメント)

But it's easier to launch a campaign for your entire career against video games than to actually step up and try to address the real problems evident in society.

[–]Alphafraud 353ポイント354ポイント  (13子コメント)

Relevant Boondocks: http://i.imgur.com/ls9jSCJ.jpg

[–]zer0t3ch 42ポイント43ポイント  (6子コメント)

God damn I love their lines. Totally forgot it was originally a comic. (only seen the show)

[–]viz0rGaming 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol, that is pretty good.

Not only that, it's easier to paint one thing as "bad" as opposed to looking at underlying problems and doing so makes said thing much easier to attack and rally against.

It's just the same story of fear mongering to garner support/push an agenda and it's used everywhere.

[–]Wampawacka 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean they do this with every issue. You never see long nuanced explanations about the complex geopolitical state of the country or discussions about actual weighty issues that affect the vast majority of Americans like income inequality. Instead, it's little sound bites about how video games are bad, gay people are doing gay stuff, and terrorists are terrorizing thousands of miles away and how that's threatening our lifestyles.

[–]JB_UK 52ポイント53ポイント  (21子コメント)

FWIW, from what I understand this is actually how it works. People do learn vicariously, by watching and through example, but only if the lessons aren't overridden by their other experiences of life around them. i.e. if you're brought up in a environment which contradicts what you see, then you instinctively treat it as something which doesn't reflect on yourself, and don't model your behaviour on it.

Two famous studies in the area are the Bandura study of vicarious learning with Bobo dolls (which found children behaved with more violence after watching violence), and the Charlton study on St Helena (which has very low levels of violence, which did not increase with the introduction of satellite TV, apparently because the example of their peers and parents over-rode what kids saw on TV).

This make you wonder whether ultraviolence could actually be better than violence in context. If you show some crazy movie where hundreds of zombies have their heads blown off, or trail around various body parts while dragging themselves along the floor after being attacked with a chainsaw, you would tend to categorize that as something completely outside your experience (!), and it probably would have little effect, but if you show a film intended to sincerely address problems that kids are having in their everyday lives, and you show someone reacting to an insult with low level or moderate violence, that's something they could actually pick up and think 'this is how people are expected to behave'.

[–]DoctorSteve03 64ポイント65ポイント  (14子コメント)

The problem is that Bandura's social learning studies don't work quite the same way in reality that they did in the vacuum of the lab in which they were conducted. The research on game violence (and violent media in general) actually tells a different story altogether, one that usually gets cut off at "games increase aggression" rather than at its true conclusion:

  1. Games temporarily increase aggression, but it drops below the original level 10 minutes after gaming ends (so you become less aggressive overall after you've peaked during the act of play).

  2. The actions you take in violent games (e.g., shooting) don't mimic real world contexts or behaviors closely enough for them to be learned--people are generally just bad at taking information learned through one interaction and doing something with it elsewhere. The only way this would be a legit issue would be if games mimicked the real world so closely that the two were nearly indistinguishable. This would mean that controller/input device would also need to be a direct physical parallel of its real world counterpart (i.e., a gun). Lacking those pieces of the puzzle, games can't do what they're accused of doing.

Source: Am a learning scientist who studies game-based learning and ecological psychology.

Relevant editorial post-Sandy Hook.

[–]Fraz007 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also, games which are based around coop play and helping other players temporarily actually lower aggression levels, regardless of how much violence is in a game.

[–]BlueVelvet90 1966ポイント1967ポイント  (232子コメント)

Did...Did nobody tell her about the ESRB?

[–]ExhibitAa 706ポイント707ポイント  (202子コメント)

She wants (or at least wanted) government regulation. The ESRB is self-regulation by the gaming industry itself, similar to the MPAA's film ratings.

[–]BlueVelvet90 744ポイント745ポイント  (148子コメント)

Oh. Still, it's bullshit. This isn't a "muh gubmint finna take away muh vidya" sentiment, it's the idea that, far as I recall, there is about as much of a link between violent videogames and IRL violence as there is between vaccinations and autism.

[–]FuzzySAM 475ポイント476ポイント  (64子コメント)

Can't recall the exact study, but I seem to recall that there was no link between the video games themselves and violence in gamers, but that there was a link between stating there was a link and violence in gamers.

[–]RecklessRatRedditor 307ポイント308ポイント  (25子コメント)

Can confirm, reading this made me want to become violent.

Imo, this statement is akin to telling someone they are in denial. There is no winning against that accusation.

[–]Fgame 141ポイント142ポイント  (13子コメント)

'Calm down'

'I am calm'

'OK but seriously you need to calm down.'

[–]Genesis2001 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

'Things will not calm down, Daniel Jackson. They will in fact calm up.'

[–]Rockonfoo 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

'I literally cannot be calmer unless I was dead'

'GODDAMNIT FRANK JUST COOL YOUR FUCKIN JETS!'

[–]Lee1138 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or someone asking "Why are you so angry?" over and over..
"You asking me if I'm angry is making me angry.."

[–]ILikeSchecters 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

My parents used to say I was too argumentative. How the hell do you get yourself out that one??

[–]MyLastNameIsIceCream 44ポイント45ポイント  (6子コメント)

No, IIRC the relationship between acts of violence and video games is the same as noting that the offender was also wearing socks that day.

[–]Levra 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

We need someone to regulate the distribution of socks!

[–]datssyck 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

Thats good.

But on the real tip, crime rates have been falling since the 80's...

[–]Bahmerman 50ポイント51ポイント  (15子コメント)

Or, relatively speaking we still live in one of the most peaceful times in history. So how bad an influence are games? (Besides being a non issue).

[–]TeamDeath 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought about going and killing hookers and random people after playing gta online. Then i realised im a lazy fuck and cbf then went and played more gta

[–]HeKis4 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

None, it's actually the opposite according to some studies. But coincidences happen, like killers being shut-ins and video games being a frequent hobby for shut-ins. Or that's just the media emmiting doubts when the studies had not been made yet (a few decades ago) and the current media still spreading the cliché. That was the equivalent of saying that vaping is bad for your health nowadays.

[–]Tarheb 110ポイント111ポイント  (11子コメント)

She's appealing to the narrow minded "concerned parents". The kind who also believe that "vaccines are bad".

[–]altxatu 160ポイント161ポイント  (7子コメント)

She's the queen of the "I want to see a manager" types.

She's the kind of person the buy GTA for her 10 year old son only to return it because it's too violent. Then blame the cashier because she didn't read the recommended age tag.

[–]percy_miller 84ポイント85ポイント  (3子コメント)

She even has the "let me see the manager" haircut

[–]ImCreeptastic 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Like how some parents took their 8 year olds to see Deadpool and then walked out and complained to the manager about the violence and language?

[–]HisUnHoliness 44ポイント45ポイント  (37子コメント)

I wrote a paper in school about this very thing and how there's actually been a decrease in violent crime since the 80's which is right about the time violence in media became a thing.

[–]c010rb1indusa 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oddly enough the ESRB was created by the industry after Mortal Kombat first became a political issue brought up by people like Hillary Clinton and Senator Joe Lieberman in the 90s.

[–]Joe2030 1237ポイント1238ポイント  (114子コメント)

Lack of money and/or brain power is the cause of violence, not silly games...

[–]FuckRedditandFuckU 1244ポイント1245ポイント  (33子コメント)

Before the 70s nobody was ever violent. Ever since that damned Atari I've never felt safe.

[–]supahmonkey 394ポイント395ポイント  (18子コメント)

Exactly, violence was invented in the 70s by Atari, they didn't even have a word for it before then.

[–]ThereAreOnlyTwo 60ポイント61ポイント  (9子コメント)

Brain Power

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[–]Zombies_Are_Dead 153ポイント154ポイント  (23子コメント)

Poor education and no work prospects. We cut funding to education and move jobs overseas and wonder why we have a problem. Add to the fact that felons don't qualify for assistance or food stamps and you have an entire class of people that can't find work and have to depend on others to feed and house them or return to crime to survive. At least the privatized prison companies are getting their guaranteed minimum occupancy filled with ease. And as a perk, the ones that were law abiding but still poorly educated and had no work are now available to join the military and fight for oil profits.

[–]oldguy_on_the_wire 41ポイント42ポイント  (10子コメント)

Add to the fact that felons don't qualify for assistance or food stamps

That may be the case in your state, but in Virginia that is not true. The programs are need based.

Source: Ex-con who needed and got food stamps for a few months.

[–]bigwillyb123 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

They used to have GED and other degree programs so they could have a shot at making money legally when they got out. Now, the recidivism rate is 45% across the country, and something like 65% in California.

[–]Reddit_While_U_Work 192ポイント193ポイント  (9子コメント)

Videogames don't cause violence, lag causes violence

[–]CanPoliEnthusiast 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Actually, some researchers believe that the Increase in aggression caused by gaming is due to player frustration rather than violent content.

[–]greyzombie 801ポイント802ポイント  (29子コメント)

I hope she doesn't find out about religion.

[–]Redbeardshanks 182ポイント183ポイント  (7子コメント)

So if i call you a spawn killing scrub, video games made me do it.

[–]golden_boogie 80ポイント81ポイント  (2子コメント)

So if i call you a spawn killing scrub, ain't nothing to it, video games made me do it.

You forgot something.

[–]jacer1099 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

After spawn camping for years I now hang out in delivery rooms.

[–]tryhardarchitect 189ポイント190ポイント  (23子コメント)

[I]n terms of how we have to deal with these mass killings … if you look at these video games … there is so much gratuitous violence … It desensitizes you to death and killing.

  • Bernie Sanders, Thom Hartmann radio show, December 21, 2012, after the Sandy Hook Shooting

[–]TychoTiberius 119ポイント120ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah, but the difference is that a link to Sanders shitting on videogames would never get upvoted to the front page. That's how you know it's different. The upvotes.

[–]Bboscoe 1043ポイント1044ポイント  (225子コメント)

Bit old, isn't it?

[–]StealthTomato 152ポイント153ポイント  (51子コメント)

Yeah, isn't this from back when this was an incredibly common viewpoint?

[–]toothofjustice 123ポイント124ポイント  (28子コメント)

This post seems to be aimed at a younger audience (who already hates Hillary) that don't know or understand the history of anti-video game mentality in the US. Now they are common place and many adults consider it a valid past time.

Back when I was growing up (late 80's through the 90's) I only heard of adults who played video games in myths and legends. The friend of a friend of a friend's Dad played them in his basement.

The early 00's were a huge transitional period for us as a nation in many aspects where the adults in power truly did not understand at all the young adults who were now able to vote and trying to get power and a name for themselves. Technology was not nearly as user friendly and ubiquitous as it is today. Windows 98 and 93 were still the standard in many households (any one who had to deal with that OS will understand that statement). Smartphones were not out yet.

There are still generational gaps (and there always will be) but this is simply an example that, looking back, seems absolutely ridiculous to current Millennials who didn't grow up through it.

[–]r0bdawg11 358ポイント359ポイント  (26子コメント)

Don't worry guys, that was in 2008. She has probably 100% changed her views on this now and will deny that this event ever took place.

[–]zaviex 108ポイント109ポイント  (12子コメント)

This was before 2008 it was when San Andreas came out

[–]PleaseThinkMore 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hot Coffee was quite the scandal at the time.

Lots of old people just didn't understand video games.

[–]SpecialSnowflake_II 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Didn't the supreme US court declare that videogames were to be conisdered as art form and therefore couldn't be censored or limited in these ways ?

[–]Seppert 83ポイント84ポイント  (10子コメント)

Here's hoping she regulates games as well as she regulates banks

[–]Reddmandu 36ポイント37ポイント  (3子コメント)

Are we going to regulate sunsets because they affect serotonin?

[–]TheNightisYoung 34ポイント35ポイント  (16子コメント)

I'd like to see some sources for this "40 years of research" that shows that video games increase violent behaviour in children. Admittedly, I haven't studied the subject since my A-level Psychology classes five or six years ago, but the takeaway message then was "research into video games and aggression is both really inconsistent and full of methodological flaws, so we can't really draw any firm conclusions".

[–]Troubleshooter11 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I demand politicians be regulated. It is proven they cause violence and war.