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[–]FiremanHandles 1274ポイント1275ポイント  (493子コメント)

I've never really cared about their political stance, but for the most part, iirc, CFA wasn't out bashing the GBLT community, but were asked directly about their views of marriage. Their response was that they support traditional marriage between a man and a woman.

To me that's the equivalent of someone on reddit asking you, if you're a Christian, and you say yes, then getting roasted for it, versus proclaiming hellfire and damnation to all non believers.

That was a long time ago, again, I haven't followed CFA at all since then, so their position might have gotten more extreme since then, but that's how that whole "uproar" got started.

It sucks when I want it on Sunday's though. sadface.jpeg

[–]superkp 243ポイント244ポイント  (51子コメント)

I read your acronym and was really confused.

GBLT

a gay bacon lettuce tomato community.

[–]FiremanHandles 24ポイント25ポイント  (39子コメント)

I never remember how the acronym goes exactly, and it seems like letters are often getting added... But there are plenty of my coworkers that refer to it as "giblet" training. So GBLT it what always stuck in my head.

[–]Sloppy1sts 35ポイント36ポイント  (37子コメント)

I've never seen anything but the base LGBT with whatever additional letter or two added.

[–]qwertyslayer 8ポイント9ポイント  (28子コメント)

The correct form now is "LGBTQQIAAP".

No, I am not kidding.

[–]digikun 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Why can't we just use QUILTBAG?

Questioning, Unsure, Intersex, Lesbian, Transexual, Bixexual, Asexual, and Gay?

[–]Lawadnorder 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because some people want THEIR special sexuality that they changed to this week represented. Basically, people are using gender and sexuality as a fashion statement and undoing years of hard work within the LBGT community to say "it's not a choice".

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    [–]F-Stop 5ポイント6ポイント  (18子コメント)

    So what does the 'QQIAAP' stand for?

    [–]BackflippingHamster 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

    QQIAAP: Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual, Allies, and Pansexual.

    [–]shitsiteredditisa 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The ironic thing is that "queer" was supposed to be the stand-in for all the other labels.

    [–]boothie 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

    the fuck is "allies" supposed to be?

    [–]Foob70 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I'd assume straight people who support their rights.

    [–]wilusa 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    nah brah, its when you fuck someone from NATO.

    [–]sostoneygrows 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh man, we're being oppressed now too? I feel so triggered.

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      [–]dontTHROWnarwhals 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

      queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally(?), pansexual(?) or polyamorous(?)

      not sure about the P

      [–]Lee1138 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

      If you're not sure about the P, you're probably Questioning.

      [–]SunDownSav 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Ah. I see what you did there, very clever sir.

      [–]AnalInferno 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Wait, another P now? Oh boy. They really like their labels.

      [–]learningtowoman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I believe it stands for Questioning, Queer, Intersex, Asexual, Agender, and Pansexual.

      [–]vanilla_w_ahintofcum 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, allies, pansexual.

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        [–]plaid_banana 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

        It varies.

        Some prefer GSRM (gender, sexual, and romantic minorities) and a few prefere MOGAI (marginalized orientations, genders, and identities). But tbh just about all the folks I know, myself included, just roll with LGBT or LGBTQ (the q being for queer). Or "alphabet soup", since we're just as averse to saying a mouthful as everyone else.

        [–]TheMustangKingdom 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I remember telling someone that the Q stood for queer, and another friend got really angry for using such a derogatory term and said it meant 'questioning' (which i guess is half-true).

        She was so mad that I could be so blind to the struggles of the LGBTQ community, except for the fact that I learned the Q stood for Queer from my transgender professor, who was also the head of Queer Studies at my university.

        [–]itchystarfish 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Yo, we're gonna need some more trophies over here for these new special snowflakes!

        [–]Watcherwithin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        As a gay guy, this is getting ridiculous.

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          [–]Magneticitist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I remember it by thinking it's the new phone from LG called the Butt Thrasher

          [–]Potato_Mc_Whiskey 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          LGBTQA

          They've got a quality assurance department now.

          [–]japalian 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

          It's all about the LeGBoT

          [–]conformuropinion2rdt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Long ago on a forum called Genmay, there used to be the acronym OMGWTFBBQ. Then when the LGBT acronyms came out years later and began getting popular, I would always naturally interpret it as lesbian gay BBQ.

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              [–]Rosehodgesislyfe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Was thinking the same thing

              [–]FoodBeerBikesMusic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Giant bacon lettuce and tomato.

              [–]grape_jelly_sammich 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              LGBT

              lettuce, guacamole, bacton, tomato.

              put that shit on toast. boom.

              [–]AverageMerica 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              So tempting.

              [–]timmywitt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Guac! Guacamole, bacon, lettuce, and tomato.

              [–]waynster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              A GBLT?

              I bet it's just faaaabulous!

              [–]sostoneygrows 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Even knowing what it's supposed to mean, I still read it as "Gay, Bi, Lesbian, and Tomato"

              We have to recognize those of us who identify as veggies as well, or those of us who are veggiequeer or veggie-curious.

              [–]sneaksby 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              GAY BACON LETTUCE AND TURKEY

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                [–]AngeredByStatistics 353ポイント354ポイント  (358子コメント)

                I think the problem is that they have given (perhaps still do? I don't know.) money to organizations that lobby/campaign against marriage equality.

                I don't hate the company for it and if people want to work or eat at CFA I got no problem with it. I just personally don't eat there.

                [–]19djafoij02 424ポイント425ポイント  (300子コメント)

                The CEO/owner, yes. CFA as a chain of chicken restaurants has no corporate stance on gay marriage.

                [–]whydoesmybutthurt 98ポイント99ポイント  (45子コメント)

                so are we supposed to hate them or not for god sakes im so confused

                [–]CannibalVegan 215ポイント216ポイント  (11子コメント)

                You do the American thing, you publicly lambaste them for their policies, then go purchase some delicious chicken from them through drive through when no one is looking.

                [–]phoenix_silaqui 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                But, it's CFA someone is always watching

                In other news, I couldn't care less about their politics, I just wish they would make some peanut allergy friendly fries.

                [–]w0nderbrad 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Fuck that. Peanut oil fries are the best fries. Well, that and duck fat fries.

                [–]yourmother-athon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                They use refined peanut oil which doesn't contain the proteins the trigger most peanut allergies. I'd still be careful though.

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                    [–]chaynes 51ポイント52ポイント  (18子コメント)

                    They are impossible to hate as long as they are making the best chicken sandwich in the world.

                    [–]hadrianaoki 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

                    Dam is it really that good? Never ate there. Might have to try it now.

                    [–]IAmTerdFergusson 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    I could eat it every single day and die a happy man

                    [–]sleepehead 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    And the Chikfila or Polynesian sauce makes everything better

                    [–]IAmTerdFergusson 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    It's about time for lunch now and I think I know what I'm getting

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                      [–]chaynes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      It's by far the best fast food I have ever had. I always see people swearing by In N Out, but after eating that a few times, I would say that Chickfila is much better.

                      [–]jmowens51 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      It's pretty dang good. Try it at least once.

                      [–]luger33 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      It's probably not going to live up to the hype / expectations created by the responses in this thread, but it's pretty fucking good. Add in their excellent waffle fries and you've got yourself a stew going.

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                        [–]liberulo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Nice try, Dan Cathy.

                        [–]NSA_IS_SCAPES_DAD 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        TIL the most boring chicken sandwich in the world is "the best".

                        [–]GlassOfWhiteRussian 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        So it's ok to hate them then?

                        [–]FallenXxRaven 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Its okay to hate anything! That's what makes America so great! The way we spend money and resources even thinking about a non-issue, let alone actually putting action in for or against it is just wonderful.

                        THEYRE SIGNING A FUCKIN PIECE OF PAPER. This entire thing should never have existed at all. I thought we were separating church and state?

                        [–]chaynes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Sure. If you don't like chicken sandwiches.

                        [–]digriz60 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I agree. I didn't like their stance on gays, but the chicken is so damn good, I compromised my morals. Then the son, who took over for Old Man Carthay (sp) officially went neutral on the issue, so I feel less bad than I did before.

                        [–]chaynes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It was definitely blown out of proportion. As if people were surprised that a 90 year old from Georgia wasn't a fan of same sex marriage...

                        [–]kurobikari 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Hate the player, not the chicken.

                        [–]RemoteClancy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        The owner of one of my local CFA franchises is a reliable donor to the Democratic Party and sponsors/supports a bunch of progressive causes. During the marriage equality debate and the protests relating to corporate donations, I used this to justify still taking my kid there (because she LOVES those nuggets).

                        [–]PanamaMoe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Until they make rules that discriminate you can like them all you want

                        [–]WordBoxLLC 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        My pitchfork is so wet: give the command!

                        [–]Delta_Foxtrot_1969 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Hate everyone equally. Fight discrimination!

                        [–]ztun 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Let's go to CFA and sort this all out over nom nom chickens.

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                          [–]wtfpwnkthx 199ポイント200ポイント  (162子コメント)

                          Actually the corporation was the entity giving money to anti-marriage equality groups. CEO made the statements but the organization was backing it up financially. They no longer support hate groups as of 2012 and publicly stated that they will leave marriage debates to politicians and continue to make sammiches.

                          [–]Wannabkate 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          But how do they feel about bathrooms?

                          [–]aambro78 142ポイント143ポイント  (119子コメント)

                          Don't get me wrong, I'm actually for Gay marriage. I'm not going to call a group a "hate" group just because they have a differing opinion than me. Just saying.

                          [–]4cornerhustler 60ポイント61ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          I know some groups with a differing opinion about African Americans. I still call them hate groups.

                          [–]jmpherso 132ポイント133ポイント  (53子コメント)

                          So is a peaceful "White Power" group a "hate" group, or no?

                          As a gay guy, I don't give two shits about what CFA does or doesn't do - but you can't just say

                          I'm not going to call a group a "hate" group just because they have a differing opinion than me.

                          They're not a hate group because they have a different opinion than you. Don't be an idiot.

                          They're hate groups because their agenda is literally to remove the civil liberties of gay people. To bring gay people down to a level which is below, or, at best, "separate but equal to" its peers.

                          You don't need to go all PC in the opposite direction and just act like everybody can have their own opinions. They can. But once you start politicizing those opinions and trying to infringe on the rights of others, it's no longer just an opinion, it's a hateful action.

                          [–]aambro78 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          There are a lot of groups out there that feel that Civil Unions are acceptable for gay people, just not referring to it as the sanctity of marriage. While I don't agree with those people, if they are deeply religious, which I am not, they can feel the way they want to feel. Just because they feel gay people getting married is against their religion doesn't mean they hate all gay people.

                          [–]your_man_moltar 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Honestly, the problem isn't even that they're against it. It's that they actively try and force that into law -- and that's taking away the rights of anyone who isn't straight.

                          Even if they don't personally hate all gay people, that doesn't mean they're not acting as a hate group by opposing those rights.

                          [–]ztun 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Sounds like you hate the hate groups that hate gay marriage. You should start a hate hate group.

                          [–]1911_ 21ポイント22ポイント  (13子コメント)

                          By that standard nearly every group is a hate group. Lol democrats try and limit my civil liberties in more ways than one. That's a very poor way to define hate group.

                          [–]notapreacherman 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Eh, I'll split the difference between the two of you. A hate group should be defined as a group who promotes or practices hatred towards members of a protected group. Chick-Fil-A isn't a hate group, they are a chicken sandwich company whose ownership shares a bigoted and backwards belief that roughly 40% of the country does. That doesn't make them right, but hate group is a bit strong. As a hypothetical example, if a company like McDonalds was owned by a segregationist in the 1960s, would that mean that McDonalds was a hate group?

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                            [–]Quinnell 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            What defines a hate group? All groups that believe homosexuality is a sin or just the ones which actively seek to ban a gay persons right to a civil union with their same-sex partner?

                            My money is on the latter. People can believe it's a sin, but as long as they aren't seeking to take away liberties or treating them with disrespect, they're not hateful. In some Christian denominations, all sin is equal. I believe if you don't shun someone who uses fowl language (a sin) then there's no excuse to rail against someone who prefers the same gender for comfort.

                            Tldr: there are hate groups and then there are religious groups that don't agree with homosexuality but don't act like pricks about it. Live and let live.

                            [–]RocketManLeague 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Do you feel this way about Christians?

                            [–]jmpherso 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            What way?

                            I feel that Christians and try and make their religion law are usually preaching some kind of hate, whether it's against women, homosexuals, atheists, whatever.

                            If you use Christianity as a religion, and it's a personal experience, or an experience with a group of like-minded peers, and it doesn't spread beyond that, then it's totally fine.

                            [–]LeftShark69 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            There's a difference between openly stating you hate anyone who is not white and want to stomp their brains in with your jack boots versus "I believe marriage is a religiously defined institution involving one man and one woman." I am 0% religious and have no issue with gay people or gay marriage and still manage to differentiate religious beliefs from hate speech. You can make any opinion you don't like hate speech if you try hard enough. Democrats are doing it left and right. Don't agree with them on XYZ topic? You hater drinking your glass full of evil racist haterade you.

                            [–]isaystuffonreddit 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            But they just find you icky and inferior as a human being, and think that allowing you marriage rights "contaminates" the institution with your grossness. How is that hateful? /s

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                              [–]Ipecactus 23ポイント24ポイント  (11子コメント)

                              What if their opinion is that blacks are inferior to whites and should only count as 3/5 of a person?

                              What if their opinion is that Jews are to blame for the holocaust?

                              I think the opinion does actually matter. Unless of course it's an opinion on whether the moon landing was a hoax or something that doesn't pertain to human rights.

                              [–]Racquethead 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              All hate is an opinion but not all opions are hateful.

                              [–]Unpopular_But_Right 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

                              What if I told you that the 3/5ths compromise was a progressive, anti-racist provision in the Constitution designed to limit the political power of slave owners and had nothing to do with blacks being considered less than human?

                              [–]isaystuffonreddit 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              How was that anti-racist? The states without slaves didn't necessarily opt out because they weren't racist. It made economic sense to limit competitors who gained an unfair advantage through slave labor.

                              [–]Ipecactus 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              What if I told you I was talking about modern day?

                              [–]Kelend 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              His point, is that its a bad example.

                              The racist slave owning South wanted slaves to be counted as whole people.

                              The noble non slave owning North wanted slaves to be counted as non people.

                              The compromise was 3/5s a person.

                              If you think the 3/5s compromise was wrong, and they should of counted them as whole people. You are siding with the South.

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                                  [–]awapaho 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Only people who don't know anything about the 3/5 compromise use it as an argument. The South wanted slaves to count as a whole person for representation ratios.

                                  [–]NAmember81 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  What if your opinion is that the holocaust is a hoax and that Jews and Blacks shouldn't be allowed to hold public office and you're a finacial supporter of neo-Nazis, that's not a hate group?

                                  It's just an opinion that you don't agree with, right?

                                  [–]teclordphrack2 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Chic-fil-a and the owner openly gave money to organizations in Uganda that helped pass legislation to legalize the murder of gay people. How is that not funding hate groups?

                                  [–]prpz_crmzn 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  Weird. Classifying anti-LGBT-rights organizations as hate groups is the majority opinion among supporters of LGBT rights, and honestly I don't see how you can disagree. These people obviously don't love LGBT folks, and certainly aren't indifferent or apathetic, so I don't know what other word you could use to describe their attitude. Just because a group doesn't come out and say "We hate these people", or just because they do come out and try to claim that they don't, doesn't mean it's not reasonable to look at their actions and determine that yeah, actually, they do.

                                  Also, I should just throw out that among the groups that Chik-Fil-A has funded directly or indirectly are the Family Research Council, widely considered a hate group, and Exodus International, a "conversion" group--also widely considered a hate group. So it looks like you really are in the minority here.

                                  [–]GracchiBros 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  When they are using the force of law to keep loved ones from having the same rights as everyone else? That's beyond a difference of opinion. That's using force to discriminate.

                                  [–]SecretCervix007 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  Giving money to a cause to deny gay people something that straight people are allowed to do. Giving away money to help discriminate based on sexual orientation.

                                  [–]Sloppy1sts 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  And he's "just saying" it's more than a fucking opinion. They're donating money to political organizations who are actively fighting to stifle peoples' rights.

                                  [–]Habbert 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                  just because they have a differing opinion than me

                                  This is bigger then just you.

                                  It's because they are discriminating against people for the way they are born.

                                  [–]Soccham 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  The Southern Poverty Law Center classifies the Family Research Council as an anti-gay hate group. SPLC was originally founded to deal with the KKK.

                                  [–]TheTodd15 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  They explicitly funded Exodus International which actually supports gay conversion therapy and FRC which is listed by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a hate group and which has Josh Duggar as its executive director...

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                                    [–]MattTheGeek 2ポイント3ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                    hate groups

                                    I get so sick of hearing "traditional values" groups being labeled like this. The KKK is a hate group, NeoNazis are hate groups. The National organization for marriage (and others like it) is NOT a hate group.

                                    BTW, I'm not supporting these groups that are fighting for traditional marriage, but calling them "hate groups" doesn't make sense.

                                    [–]Coheed_Kilgannon 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                    I don't think that calling a group that advocates legislating discrimination a hate group is unreasonable.

                                    [–]schmads 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I would argue that discrimination and hate are two different things, and it does an injustice to those who are the target of actual hate to muddle the divide.

                                    Discrimination may reduce your ability to exercise rights such as marriage or getting a job. Life-affecting, but not life or death, and sometimes subtle and difficult to identify.

                                    Hate will get you beaten or lynched, which is much more severe and actually directly hazardous, as well as typically involving things that are already crimes.

                                    For the record, I am in favor of neither (hate or discrimination), and believe that marriage should not be handled by the government except as a general contract, so that anyone can marry anyone else if they like.

                                    I also don't like the identification of certain crimes as "hate crimes", for the sake of greater penalties. I think that when someone bashes my head in for belonging to group X, it is the same level of "wrongness" as when someone bashes my head in for the sake of getting my wallet. Intent should only be a concern when it comes to accidental harm, or distinguishing between planned and unplanned attacks (though I don't really think the distinction should be great, given that I quite value my head, thank you very much).

                                    [–]jotch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    What a hateful opinion.

                                    [–]lol_admins_are_dumb 14ポイント15ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                    Sure it does. They are groups that define themselves on hating others.

                                    The non-hateful way of being "for traditional marriage" is for you to not get yourself into a gay marriage. When you try to others that they are wrong for their decisions, that's when it becomes hate.

                                    [–]PathToEternity 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I'm not saying that I disagree necessarily, at least technically, but when you have one group which has actually killed people for their choices vs another group which is pushing a political agenda to infringe on people's rights... there is a real reason why some people are not comfortable lumping both of these groups under the same nomenclature.

                                    Obviously I'm not supporting the idea that it's ok the infringe on the rights of gays, blacks, whatever. But if you are lining that up against lynching someone for their race (or sexual orientation) we're definitely discussing two different levels of "hate" regardless of the fact that they are both wrong.

                                    Having personally moved from a very traditional, conservative stance on so many issues to more progressive stances, it bothers me to see the same extreme rhetoric/circle jerking on this side of the fence too because it was one of the factors that drove me away from traditionalism/conservatism.

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                                      [–]teaminus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      IDK about hate groups but Exodus International was one of the worse groups Winshape was donating too and they cited junk science studies that showed links between homosexuality and pedophilia and supported gay conversion therapy. Unfortunately the specifics of the groups Winshape was donating to were overshadowed by the same sex marriage angle and just how terrible some of these groups were went unreported.

                                      [–]Candroi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      The National organization for marriage (and others like it) is NOT a hate group.

                                      Yeah, I dunno, the organizations that propagate the ideologies of the people who cause me to fear bodily harm (and even mortal danger) if I express myself openly...

                                      [–]get--rekt 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Traditional marriage groups are hate groups by definition. And they aren't just pro-traditional marriage. There is a lot of anti-gay thrown in there as well.

                                      [–]jmpherso 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Holy fuck.

                                      Explain to me how a group who is literally trying to stop the progress of rights advancement for LGBT people is not a hate group?

                                      "Hate" doesn't imply violence. I'm sure you would consider a bunch of peaceful white people who belonged to a group called, let's say, "White First", and believed all blacks shouldn't be allowed to marry whites and should have separate bathrooms, a hate group.

                                      Come the fuck on.

                                      There's two sides to this "too PC" bullshit. There's people who act like you can't say anything and try and be too correct about everything, and then there's people like you who act like no one is doing anything wrong and everyone just needs to chill out. They're both fucking miserable.

                                      [–]isaystuffonreddit 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      "Traditional marriage" is just a euphemism. If you consider gays to be TARNISHING something just by living their lives, you're hateful.

                                      They're a hate group as much as the KKK and other racist groups calling for miscegenation laws.

                                      [–]teclordphrack2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Chic-fil-a and the owner/ceo gave money and support groups in Uganda that helped pass legislation legalizing the murder of gay people. How is that not a hate group?

                                      [–]wtfpwnkthx 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                      I agree...it was too strongly worded and that's my bad. I am certain that you got my point, though, and freaking out about one word isn't really constructive in any way.

                                      [–]MattTheGeek 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                      freaking out

                                      I don't remember "freaking out".

                                      [–]wtfpwnkthx 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      "I get so sick of hearing..."

                                      It was a single word and you completely skipped over what I was actually getting at to nitpick and write me two paragraphs of response about one misused word. Cmon dude.

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                                        [–]brotato48 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                        "Hate" groups is a little extreme. Just bc they disagree with someone's life style doesn't mean they are the KKK.

                                        [–]wtfpwnkthx 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        Like in all the other posts that already said that, I agree..my bad. It was a single word and doesn't change my point.

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                                          [–]mexicanlizards 49ポイント50ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          Take of it what you will, but both CFA and their charity arm donated millions and file amicus briefs in several court cases. The CEO made public statements and tweets in support of striking down gay marriage.

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick-fil-A_same-sex_marriage_controversy

                                          [–]WikipediaPoster 41ポイント42ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy

                                          American fast-food chain Chick-fil-A was the focus of controversy following a series of public comments made in June 2012 by chief operating officer Dan T. Cathy opposing same-sex marriage. This followed reports that Chick-fil-A's charitable endeavor, the S. Truett Cathy-family-operated WinShape Foundation, had donated millions of dollars to political organizations seen by LGBT rights activists as hostile to LGBT causes. LGBT activists called for protests and boycotts of the chain, while counter-protestors rallied in support by eating at the restaurants. National political figures both for and against the actions spoke out and some business partners severed ties with the chain. Chick-fil-A released a statement in July 2012 stating, "Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena." In March 2014, tax filings for 2012 showed the group stopped funding all but one organization which had been previously criticized.

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                                            [–]InvaderChin 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            And if people do not want to give that CEO/Owner money, then they don't eat at the chain of chicken restaurants that fills his coffers.

                                            [–]littlerob904 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            Actually, this is incorrect. CFA (the corporation) formerly donated millions to the WinShape foundation, which is the registered non-profit, the Truett family uses for charitable causes. The WinShape foundation then funneled those $'s to groups such as the Family Research Council (many consider to be a hate group) and Exodus International (a group that "converts" gays). Since the controversy, they've ceased to support these foundations.

                                            You also have to remember that CFA is a closely held corporation. Attempting to separate a political stance of the owner from that of his business is semantics.

                                            [–]LeftShark69 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Sorry but when it comes to corporations that are heavily franchised it isn't hard to separate the corporate political stance away from the rest at all. If it's one giant megacorp owned and run by one person I could agree with that view, but you can't go around holding franchisees responsible for the political whims of the CEO who has practically nothing to do with your day to day operations.

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                                              [–]459pm 86ポイント87ポイント  (58子コメント)

                                              Calm down with your logic buddy, we're trying to apply our pseudo-Christian western ethics to this situation while rejecting ACTUAL Christian western ethics.

                                              [–]lanigironu 16ポイント17ポイント  (56子コメント)

                                              But his logic was objectively wrong. The corporation itself was donating money to lobbyists against gay marriage, not just the CFO who was making repeated public statements.

                                              [–]SOUNDSLIKEACOKEPARTY 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              I'll give it all up for that goddamn chicken

                                              [–]enjo13 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Even if that were true (it's not), it's not like you can extricate the CEO from the organization. When you give a dollar to Chic-Fil-A you are giving some number of cents directly to the CEO.

                                              Hate speech is hate speech, and when you shop at Chi-Fil-A, no matter how tasty it is, you're supporting that speech.

                                              [–]Sloppy1sts 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Where do you think he gets the money?!

                                              [–]ArguesForNot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Dan is a liability for them. They know it and have warned him to cool it or he will get pushed out. As CEO. If it's bad for business it's bad for business.

                                              [–]AHrubik 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                              I agree with this in principle but the reality of it is the money ends up in Dan Christy's pocket who then uses it to discriminate. While the company may treat it employees equally I know for absolute certainty there is a religious test to become management so they are an example of how you have to closely examine an organization to find out exactly how the people who run it use it's resources.

                                              [–]FUNKYDISCO 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Exactly, I'm helping fund bigotry and getting chicken sandwiches in return? My morals can't justify that. Simple as that.

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                                                [–]fastjogisaslowrun 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                But it's a privately held company, so they are effectively one and the same.

                                                [–]sergelo 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                Chicken Restaurants.

                                                I want a restaurant in the shape of a giant chicken that I walk into to buy fast food.

                                                [–]oldark 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Chicken

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                                                Big Chicken

                                                The Big Chicken is a KFC restaurant in Marietta, Georgia, which features a 56-foot-tall (17 m) steel-sided structure designed in the appearance of a chicken rising up from the top of the building. It is located at the city's biggest intersection of Cobb Parkway (U.S. 41/Georgia 3) and Roswell Road (Georgia 120) and is a well-known landmark in the area. Constructed in 1956, it was rebuilt following storm damage in 1993.

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                                                [–]arakele 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Corporations are people too you know!

                                                [–]Zaruma 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Are we personifying things again?

                                                [–]Albertan11 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Wait but the CEO of Firefox was against gay marriage and I don't remember some giant uproar.

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                                                  [–]Andimia 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  The issue was that Chick-Fil-A itself (no the CEO) donated some of it's profits to organizations that were labeled as anti-gay hate groups by the SPLC. It came out in their taxes after the CEO spoke of his stance on a talk radio show. One of those groups actively lobbied to have a bill passed in South Africa that made homosexuality illegal and punishable by death. That's where a lot of people were mad. The company has now ceased sending funds to those organizations.

                                                  [–]Hegiman 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  It's also completely possible they were unaware of this, just as many people are unaware that donating to the Susan G Komen foundation is donating to planned parenthood in a round about way as SGK donates to planned parenthood. How many pro lifers have donated to or bought something because it was SGK and they or someone they know is or has battled breast cancer?

                                                  [–]tba85 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  I don't like to call it "boycotting", but I don't eat there either. Me not eating there doesn't change their success, but I wouldn't feel right contributing.

                                                  It's a shame. I'm pregnant and they have good chicken.

                                                  [–]frostbird 24ポイント25ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                  (Note that this is not a comment directed at you.)

                                                  That argument normally falls flat with me. Many people are shitty. Spending money anywhere is very likely to put that money in people's hands who do terrible things that make your blood boil. Buying a chicken sandwich at Chik-fil-a is not writing the owners a check, it's purchasing a good. I'd be interested in knowing how much of the price of that sandwich actually makes it into those lobbying efforts. My guess is less than a penny.

                                                  [–]lekoman 29ポイント30ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                  The point of a boycott -- at least, a well-organized one -- is not actually not spending the money. The point is that it makes for juicy media, which draws or maintains attention on the issue. CFA didn't "go neutral" on marriage equality because it was losing money from boycotters, it changed its stance because the media attention was unfavorable and was decreasing the value of its brand. Theoretically, this also has a knock-on effect to other companies that might be doing similar things -- they too fear being put in media crosshairs -- and that multiplies the impact of the boycott and ultimately throttles the fundraising of organizations doing the actual harm... which is the ultimate goal.

                                                  I say this as someone who spent the first eight years of his professional life working in various roles in both communications and organizing for an LGBTQ political org.

                                                  edit: words

                                                  [–]Icyrhodes 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  The week after the controversy happened here in my Texas city, the drive through lines were twice as long and the lines went out the door. I'm just saying what happened here. (While I did eat there during the week)

                                                  [–]lekoman 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  Sure. That happened across much of CFA's ops region (which is primarily in the south, which is socially conservative, by-and-large). And yet, the boycott got them to change their policy. So, it goes to show it's not actually about getting people to stop spending money, it's about directing negative media at a company that distracts from the messages they want the public to have about them and their product. If you organize a boycott of any scale with that goal front-and-center, it works wonders.

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                                                    [–]touchthesun 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    if everyone refused to spend money at business that do things or lobby for things they themselves are morally opposed to, we wouldn't have an economy. Either that or we live in a society with zero morals.

                                                    [–]Mdcastle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Much as I don't agree with Target's viewpoint on things I still shop there. Life is too short to worry about things like that.

                                                    [–]FadedAndJaded 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    How many of us have iPhones? Or basically any computer. Precious metals aren't dug out of the ground by some guy making a living wage...

                                                    [–]Decolater 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Here is another way to look at it.

                                                    "Whether you believe that he should have voiced his opinion on the matter at all, Chick-fil-A’s president and COO Dan Cathy decided to stand against marriage equality and the real American family and have his company donate money to anti-gay political organizations. He made Chick-fil-A a member of the “First Wives Club,” and it’s one that Bette Midler might feel ashamed to join. So because Chick-fil-A and other companies like it have decided to stand against who I am as a person and what I deserve in this life (a family with my future husband), I simply stand firm in my choice to eliminate spending at such places, regardless of how friendly their employees or how delicious their food may be."

                                                    [–]zeussays 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    But our wallets are the only way we have of changing a company's culture. At least that's what all the free marketers keep telling me.

                                                    Edit - holy shit guys, it's a joke.

                                                    [–]Mamajam 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Eh, the backlash did have an effect. They publicly stated that they would have no official policy in 2012 and leave gay marriage to the politicians.

                                                    [–]WeenisWrinkle 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    They did change. As of the 2014 tax filings, they stopped donating to the controversial organizations I'm 2012.

                                                    [–]Mdcastle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    Chick Fil-A had $5.1 Billion in revenue a few years ago and I guess they donated a couple of million, so assuming a $5 sandwich something like 1/3rd of a cent.

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                                                      [–]RiotGrrrl585 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I don't give too many shits about the marriage issue, but the money trickles and/or flows into organizations who want us beat up, killed, or imprisoned, and I do give a lot of shots about those things, so I don't feel comfortable giving them money or doing a good job for them.

                                                      [–]Butchbutter0 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Yeah I'm with you. Personally, I don't care about a corporations bigoted political leanings nor its workers or customers. I just can't eat there. To be fair...it's mostly because the closest one would be like a 10 hour drive. xP But still...I'm on your side. 🌟🖖🌮

                                                      [–]wtfpwnkthx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Their CEO still does but they just make food now. Stopped funding all those orgs in 2012 according to the 'pedia.

                                                      [–]SneakyRocket 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                      I'm not attacking you, so be cool, but I never understood this. Like I know some people boycott home depot for supporting gay rights, and uh they shop at walmart...and some people boycott chick fil a for not supporting gay rights, but Im sure they support something else that has the same position. I do this, I eat at places with good food and then send my money and votes to causes that I feel matter. I can't not support a business just because the owners have their own views also. Sure, I wish I had millions to funnel towards my own agendas but honestly most of these chains are just looking for advertisements and tax write offs.

                                                      [–]AngeredByStatistics 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      Just a personal preference. I realize only buying things from businesses you 100% agree with is probably unrealistic, but CFA has been very vocal in the past against a cause that I feel strongly about. I don't expect it to make much difference, or any difference really. But if it's as easy as "I'll eat somewhere else from now on," why not?

                                                      [–]SneakyRocket 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      Right. I just can't imagine giving a shit what Colonal Sanders thinks about politics. Fry my chicken asshole. That's the image that comes to my mind.

                                                      [–]AngeredByStatistics 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      If Colonel Sanders came out in support of beating puppies, I'd have to get my chicken elsewhere. And then if Popeye suddenly revealed he was part of the Sovereign citizen movement..... Shit, I'm probably going to have to learn to fry my own chicken at some point, won't I?

                                                      [–]SneakyRocket 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      Lol No doubt. Or you could comfort yourself in knowing in some places dogs are running rampant, homeless and starving due to poor environment and overbreeding and conservation is just a neccessity. Also I mean..we all want to belong to something right, we have Native American tribes, they are sovereign. So maybe..ya know..live and let live or whatever. Chickens delicious all I am saying, popeye would have to screw up pretty damn bad to lose my business.

                                                      Support the Empire.

                                                      [–]Bluebeagle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      As much as I disagree with what they do/stand for and all that jazz, I can't stop eating there. It is far too delicious.

                                                      [–]YpsilonYpsilon 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                      It is not a problem to present your views and fight for what you think is right in this manner.

                                                      [–]AngeredByStatistics 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      correct, it is completely their right to do so. But I don't have to buy a sandwich there (and honestly, I doubt they care if I do or not.)

                                                      [–]bigplayer2382 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      If you don't chew big red then fuck you.

                                                      [–]DerJawsh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      They stopped giving donations to them and the primary issue people had was they were "donating" to particularly bad groups in places like Africa. In reality, they were donating to a "catch-all" Christian Donation association that redonated their money.

                                                      [–]Tex-Rob 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      That's the thing, it's not like he gave to "I hate gay marriage.org" he gave to a place that does a bunch of things, and one of them happens to be lobbying against gay marriage. I'm just saying, it's a bit different. Like, I have voted for presidents that I only agree with about half the stuff they say, so because I voted for X president doesn't necessarily mean I agree with X view.

                                                      [–]thorscope 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      The company doesn't give to those groups, the owners do. People can argue the details but I for one will enjoy their chicken sandwiches without second thought.

                                                      [–]Cthanatos 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      I don't eat there because I'm cheap.

                                                      [–]Banker930 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      This is exactly why I eat at Chic Fil- A as much as possible.

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                                                        [–]rusmo 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        This fracas cost us their tasty chicken biscuits, nuggets, and sammiches in our work's cafeteria. The workplace hasn't been as happy since.

                                                        [–]thatmorrowguy 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                        Take of it what you will, but both CFA and their charity arm donated millions and file amicus briefs in several court cases. The CEO made public statements and tweets in support of striking down gay marriage.

                                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick-fil-A_same-sex_marriage_controversy

                                                        [–]WikipediaPoster 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        Chick-fil-A same-sex marriage controversy

                                                        American fast-food chain Chick-fil-A was the focus of controversy following a series of public comments made in June 2012 by chief operating officer Dan T. Cathy opposing same-sex marriage. This followed reports that Chick-fil-A's charitable endeavor, the S. Truett Cathy-family-operated WinShape Foundation, had donated millions of dollars to political organizations seen by LGBT rights activists as hostile to LGBT causes. LGBT activists called for protests and boycotts of the chain, while counter-protestors rallied in support by eating at the restaurants. National political figures both for and against the actions spoke out and some business partners severed ties with the chain. Chick-fil-A released a statement in July 2012 stating, "Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena." In March 2014, tax filings for 2012 showed the group stopped funding all but one organization which had been previously criticized.

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                                                          [–]superfudge73 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I thought they donated a bunch of money to anti gay mates ballot measures?

                                                          [–]Scaasic 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          You don't recall correctly actually.

                                                          Chick-fil-A has donated at least $5 million to organizations (including a certified hate group) that, among other things, depict gay people as pedophiles, want to make “gay behavior” illegal, and even say gay people should be “exported” out of America.

                                                          Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy didn’t merely say he supports traditional marriage. Dan Cathy said if you support gay marriage, you “are inviting God’s judgment on our nation,” and that we “shake our fist at Him” when we do. Dan Cathy also said same-sex marriage is the result of a “deprived” mind and called it “twisted up kind of stuff.”

                                                          Chick-fil-A supports organizations that have claimed they can change gay people into straight people — “pray away the gay“ — despite the fact that practically every major medical organization has stated that this is not only impossible but dangerous and harmful.

                                                          [–]teclordphrack2 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Na, Me personaly I don't support people who give money to Ugandan organizations that help get "kill the gay" legislation passed.

                                                          [–]wtfpwnkthx 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                          In 2012, they made a statement to the effect that they would leave this debate to the public and the gov't and they will just continue to be a fast food company. They also stopped funding almost all organizations with any anti-LGBT agendas.

                                                          Pretty responsible IMO. There was a controversy, then public outcry, then they changed their approach.

                                                          [–]thoughtsonthedead 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          "Almost all."

                                                          Pretty responsible.

                                                          [–]wtfpwnkthx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Overnight they stopped funding almost all these groups and the only one left is a christian athletic scholarship program from what I remember. I think they stopped supporting this one also but not certain. Happy?

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                                                            [–]freedomtoscream 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                            Exactly this. Except when you don't 100% support gay rights regardless of your beliefs or personal convictions or whatever your words will be twisted and you paint a big red target on yourself as intolerant, homophobic, and bigoted. End of story. It's a one way street.

                                                            CFA hires gay people, doesn't discriminate and in response to strengthening tradional family values, the CFA CEO said "We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles."

                                                            People just can't appreciate other's decisions and beliefs if it's not in line with want they want. Same with the ex Mozilla CEO who made a small donation over 10 years ago in favor of traditional marriage. He was chastised all over social media and eventually resigned.

                                                            [–]_The-Big-Giant-Head_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            political stance

                                                            I am pretty much sure who's ass you bum is a religious thing. :)

                                                            [–]ManBearHam 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            I think the problem is their food is delicious and I couldn't care less what their stance is on any issue whatsoever.

                                                            [–]ender4171 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Not to mention CFAs are franchises. Just because the corporate stance may be one way, doesn't mean the franchise owners feel the same.

                                                            [–]GrandRush 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            GBLT community

                                                            Great Bacon Lettuce Tomato community

                                                            [–]Dzugavili 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            the GBLT community

                                                            Gay Bacon, Lettuce and Tomato?

                                                            [–]7V3N 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            I seem to only ever want it on Sundays. I'll be driving by and say "I can't remember the last time I had Chik Fil A. I ought to get some." Nope, it's Sunday.

                                                            [–]schwiftyrick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            It is a golden rule that, "If'th thee want Chicken of Fil'A, it shall be'th a Sunday."

                                                            Source - My life.

                                                            [–]brewster_the_rooster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Agree 1000%. This whole witch hunt thing that goes on by the SJW types the minute someone expresses a non-PC position is disgusting. They immediately take to their social media platforms and start hurling feces and saying disgusting things they would NEVER say to a person's face. Why is it so hard to recognize that others aren't going to share your viewpoints on things 100%?

                                                            For the record, I completely support gay marriage and LGBT rights and I think it's unconstitutional to have legislation against these groups. But I would never expect that everyone else is going to share my views (or try to mandate that they must share my views), that speaks to a huge selfishness and ignorance as to how the world actually works.

                                                            [–]HaitianRon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Damn. Thank you for the explanation.

                                                            [–]robotsongs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Here, why don't you read up on it...

                                                            [–]Blewedup 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            i was always amazed at people who got upset and worked up about all the things that terrell owens did. i used to tell those people "put your fingers in your ears, turn off sportscenter, and watch him catch touchdowns." i always measured him by his purpose -- which was to catch TDs. he was awesome at that.

                                                            chik fila is the same thing. just eat their chicken, enjoy it, and stop worrying about everything else.

                                                            [–]isaidputontheglasses 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            You mean some people out there have their own specific views and opinions that differ from others that they peacefully coexist with on a daily basis? Ludicrous. SJWs unite!!!! We must ban free thought!!!

                                                            [–]ChocolatePopes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Ironically enough, I used to work at Target. Sure they are very openly liberal. Bathroom policy and gender neutral toy area etc etc. Despite that, absolutely worst place to work. High workload, high quotas, low staff, low hours, broken promises of promotions. Totally a stressful place to work at.

                                                            I stopped caring what stores do politically after working there

                                                            [–]SpottedPaws 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            they support traditional marriage between a man and a woman.

                                                            There are dozens of us!

                                                            [–]VRtual 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            They used to donate to anti-gay organizations, but I believe they stopped.

                                                            [–]Whale_Oil 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Yes, but CFA also directly supported programs/organizations that were extremely detrimental to LGBT youth.

                                                            I believe CFA has ceased funding the vast majority of them, to their credit, but it wasn't always that way.

                                                            [–]TheTodd15 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Ah yes, now explicitly funding literal anti-gay hate groups is "the equivalent of someone asking you if you are a christian." Are you fucking kidding me?

                                                            [–]Mandinder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            I'm they answers a direct question honestly which is good, but the question was "Are you a bigot?"

                                                            [–]Zilveari 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            traditional marriage

                                                            Traditional marriage would be polygamy. They mean the binding of a woman to a man's will as professed within the Bible.

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