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[–]il-est-ressuscite 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Two things make this creak loudly and tip right over down into the bullshit abyss: 1) the kittens in the box and then, the even bigger bullshit 2)your claim "I never touched myself." Right. Lol

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

1) that's your choice 2) because monks dont exist

Edit: Also, I've avoided mind altering substances my whole life, I don't intend to start the men's version of crack anytime soon. Even as I age during the next decade, 20yos will always be 20yos. There are no snowflakes, AWALT.

[–]il-est-ressuscite 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Monks don't exist

No vow of chastity is ever broken

[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do we only get to choose between a BP love or RP sex life?

I believe this is correct. Welcome to the REAL world.

Hopefully you have read Rollo on Men and Women in love.

is killing your emotions the only sexual strategy worth pursuing?

Killing your WEAK emotions. Men are not robots! You can get angry, sad, passionate. What you cannot do (and expect your wife to remain turned on enough to fuck you voluntarily) is to drop NEGATIVE and WEAK emotions like neediness, whining, weak sauce.

you guys are vehement about boycotting marriage.

What? Most of us ARE married. We are vehement about recommending marriage to men today given the social and legal climate. Most of us are here specifically to fix our marriages. I don't know of many married plate spinners but there are some.

I refuse to marry someone I have to babysit my whole life without selling my soul and becoming BP again.

It is a shorthand to consider women like children. It is also true most of the time. However, many women DO have a sense of honor. Many ARE capable and competent. The problem is finding one of those who is also willing to follow your lead without undermining you chip by chip, drip by drip over the years.

marriage will ALWAYS be work for us. You will always HAVE to be the captain. You will ALWAYS have to maintain frame.

Now you are seeing a glimmer of truth. In the past men worked 16 hour days until they dropped dead. The problem with being the Captain is that society doesn't support that role so it feels like you are all alone and, in many ways, you are. Being the leader means that when you stub your toe you don't go to mommy and have her kiss it and make it better. That is YOUR job as a man.

We will never have the kind of love where you can be vulnerable. We will never enjoy a woman's right to cry. We can never show the kind of weakness where you spoil your girl and she's your whole world. Women will not love us unconditionally like in all those RomComs that conditioned the BP into me.

Correct! I know this is terrifying, but it really is not that bad. You are not "acting" out the part of Captain- you ARE the Captain, and you always were, even when you were hiding in your parent's basement.

I wish I never came across RP. I hate what you people did to me. I hate what they did to us more.

Rage at the machine all you want. We will still be here when you are done raging.

I want my donuts back.

Start by picking up your stones first. Then with stones in hand, when you see a pretty, frosty little donut that you want to lick you can go claim it.

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do we only get to choose between a BP love or RP sex life? I believe this is correct. Welcome to the REAL world.

The more sidebar I read, the less this seems to matter.

Killing your WEAK emotions. Men are not robots! You can get angry, sad, passionate. What you cannot do (and expect your wife to remain turned on enough to fuck you voluntarily) is to drop NEGATIVE and WEAK emotions like neediness, whining, weak sauce.

This was the only thing that sold me to marriage in the first place. It was hard work to get where I got on my own, and the wife was supposed to be the rock I was going rely on. The whole MGTOW surrogacy thing seems a lot more attractive, less expensive.

What? Most of us ARE married. We are vehement about recommending marriage to men today given the social and legal climate. Most of us are here specifically to fix our marriages. I don't know of many married plate spinners but there are some.

Imma pay it forward to every guy I know that managed to dodge the bullet so far and tell them to go lone wolf. None of them went to sunday school anyway, so if I were a betting man, I'd bet they've been fornicating this whole time anyway.

I no longer see why guys shouldn't openly plate anymore with just the amount of sidebar I read so far.

It is a shorthand to consider women like children. It is also true most of the time. However, many women DO have a sense of honor. Many ARE capable and competent.

Vetting was always at the core of my wife search, but I am religiously studying the Red Pill's take on vetting: http://theredpillroom.blogspot.com/search/label/Wife%20Test

The problem is finding one of those who is also willing to follow your lead without undermining you chip by chip, drip by drip over the years.

Isn't this basically built in to all women, and men just never learned about Fitness Tests? Again, not the struggle I signed up for, but its so obvious now that TRP pointed it out.

Now you are seeing a glimmer of truth. In the past men worked 16 hour days until they dropped dead. The problem with being the Captain is that society doesn't support that role so it feels like you are all alone and, in many ways, you are. Being the leader means that when you stub your toe you don't go to mommy and have her kiss it and make it better. That is YOUR job as a man.

Marriage changes nothing for me and I don't see what value a woman brings to the table besides her papaya. Seriously, VR is surely gonna replace girlfriends for the kids that grow up with the Playstation VR https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/04/23/last-one-down-the-aisle-wins-part-1/

Correct! I know this is terrifying, but it really is not that bad. You are not "acting" out the part of Captain- you ARE the Captain, and you always were, even when you were hiding in your parent's basement.

Better to know the truth now than before I ended up like the majority of you or divorce raped.

Rage at the machine all you want. We will still be here when you are done raging.

And hopefully I'll be there for the next guy.

Start by picking up your stones first. Then with stones in hand, when you see a pretty, frosty little donut that you want to lick you can go claim it.

I swim with the sharks in the boardroom. How do BP guys like us stumble in the dark for so long without getting a clue. I guess we're just do'ers and not be'ers. I am really seriously considering plating openly now. I don't put up with stuff like this at work.

[–]red-pill-man 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is your brain on religion. Don't do religion.

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was my 10yo brain on Disney and Anime.

Don't do Anime.

[–]ParadoxThatDrivesUs 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think those 12 years may have done some permanent damage. Do you want to give this another try?

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/20mgr9/michaels_story/ Micheal was abstinent for ONLY 12 years. That's what I was trying to say. And I resonated with him when we hear about people going without sex for OVER a week...

Micheal was in a worse position because he was constantly tortured about his sexuality and why women wouldn't intercourse him.

Thought he dealt with that for ONLY 12 years, since I never had any insecurity my whole life, I guess mine was an easier experience.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Paging /u/Zeeyard to come talk to you.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Feel better? That was a big victim puke.

We know emotional guys finish last

This is a fallacy.

So the inescapable conclusion that the sidebar is leading me to is that marriage will ALWAYS be work for us. You will always HAVE to be the captain. You will ALWAYS have to maintain frame. You will have to kill your emotion and stop mate guarding.

You sluts broke my heart. Don't touch me.

You fear failure and lack abundance. I started a huge response but honestly I think it would be lost on you. Integrated Men, redpill men who have mastered themselves and relationships live through emotion. We accept the true nature of women, instead of railing against it. Kill your EGO, not your emotion. Your choking on the pill because you don't want to internalize it.

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am not really sure where this came from. I'd like to blame demon possesion or Obamacare, but [Victim Puke], so I lost my frame that night.

I really resonated with Sampson here: https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/red-pill-bitterness/

I guess this post was my BP Beta will and testament. I guess the last vestiges of the BP in me is fighting to stay alive, while I am already seeing changes in the behaviour of people around me as I internalize the Red Pill. When the BP in me is screaming "Don't do that! You'll hurt their feelings and they will hate you!", reality shows that they DON'T end up hating me, and seem to be respecting me more. I have a feeling that if future me a year from now and I met, he would punch my in the heart.

I used my one chance, so no more hamstering.

Kill your EGO, not your emotion. Your choking on the pill because you don't want to internalize it.

This seems like a big deal. Does the sidebar address this? I'm not done with it yet, but if this isn't addressed in the sidebar, could you point me to resources you used? Maybe get it on the sidebar?

[–]over60_stupid_loner 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

I . AM . SPEECHLESS.

I have never seen a post with so much RP language and symbolism intertwined in so little content. Do Muslims believe in fairies and trolls, too? Try to calm down and read the comments given you here carefully.

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[–]BluepillProfessorMod / Red Beret 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is a fairly standard rage post of the newly unplugging. You should see some of the shit I wrote!

[–]il-est-ressuscite 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sure you were far more lucid. This one makes me think of two dudes in a dorm room after blotter lol

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was thinking something more along the lines of girls slumber party?

[–]over60_stupid_loner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I saw the stuff you wrote. Rage - yes, maybe even more, but much more understandable.

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see now that most of my Victim Puke was anger/grief/a tantrum over Covert Contracts: [Mommy], I [finished my choreplay], so give me [my doughnuts]. And because of [Victim Puke], "Its not my fault I sacrificed my dream of getting my wingsuit certification." type of logic will no longer fly.

I have to define and hold my frame, I cannot let my Sunk Costs hold me back. I think the Rep Pill is going to let me do what I've always done best; have laser focus on my goals, which for now I will define as:

Immediate goals STFU, maintain DAGF Maintain lifting routine - this is not a luxury or an optional directive MAKE time to finish sidebar - ditto

Intermediate goals Read through MRP/TRP sidebar twice within the next 23 days - its like I'm defending my thesis in college again Let the anger pass - don't make major life decisions

Long term goals Get back to football shape Get flight suit certification Open Plating if I don't end up MGTOW

Also, I really thought BPP would really hand me my ass for having my head so far up my ass. I'm not a snowflake about this hopefully. It'll make it easier to be Morpheus for the guys back home who bit the bullet back when I was supposed to.

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did. Very enlightening, humbling, useful and a little bit of confirmation bias, or I'm just super saturated on sidebar now.

[–]40mullet 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Its not bad to have high values, being romantic, monogamous, wanting good family life. Every woman wants a guy like this. Being all that does not make you BP. Failing shit tests validating yourself thru woman does.

You are owning your shit, you have mission, just implement this new information to your vision and you will be ok.

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is exactly what I've concluded. But its nice to know I wasn't totally hardcore BP

[–]cholomiteBP Downvote Magnet 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Damn dude.

Dead kittens, banging Korean ghost girls, getting wingsuit certified. You're all over the fucking place. What a way to start the week.

I get it, it sucks and you realized you've wasted your life. It happens to a lot of people, you're not the first and you won't be the last. I don't think I'll be able to offer much advice, because I'm just a debauched atheist heathen. I will just say, if you ever want to "fornicate" with a girl, then don't ever say "fornicate" again.

[–]FearDearg2015Mod / Red Beret 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I will just say, if you ever want to "fornicate" with a girl, then don't ever say "fornicate" again.

L FUCKING OL

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dead kittens, banging Korean ghost girls, getting wingsuit certified. You're all over the fucking place. What a way to start the week.

Tell me, brah. But damn, I wish I still lived next to the airfield...

I get it, it sucks and you realized you've wasted your life. It happens to a lot of people, you're not the first and you won't be the last.

Its startling how much easier this all gets when you internalize that you are not a snowflake...

I don't think I'll be able to offer much advice, because I'm just a debauched atheist heathen.

I forgive you

I will just say, if you ever want to "fornicate" with a girl, then don't ever say "fornicate" again.

Good thing I never intend to fornicate.

But seriously, the sidebar is making me thing that there are only two types of woman worth considering. 1) The ones only worth fornicating with 2) The chaste ones worth marrying (because they understand supply and demand)

Never in my life did I ever consider being Captain Save-a-Whore

[–]Scurvemuch 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

We know emotional guys finish last,

I stopped reading here... because the rest does not matter if that is how you think.

You are using "emotional" to substitute for weak and effeminate. Men have strong, powerful emotions. Men just tend to use them differently than women. Men experience them and use them. Men do not wallow in them.

So, cupcake, are you a worthless pansy or do you want to name your emotions, use them, and go achieve something?

Oh, and those Korean girls... they are tight as fuck. A lot will giggle and do all sorts of things for non Korean boys. And then they get married to a nice korean boy who was waiting for em... sigh

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, cupcake, are you a worthless pansy or do you want to name your emotions, use them, and go achieve something?

Latter, sir.

Oh, and those Korean girls... they are tight as fuck. A lot will giggle and do all sorts of things for non Korean boys. And then they get married to a nice korean boy who was waiting for em... sigh

Don't I know it. But seriously, AWALT. Every type of girl, Korean, Jewish, White, Black, (other) Asian, Hispanic (even the super-catholic ones), you name it, they are seriously all like that. It has to be in their nature and its too late to stop them before the damage (they do to themselves) is done.

[–]Persaeus 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

korean high school girls

The most tasty kind, ummmmmmm. Seriously dude, the woulda coulda, shoulda; but ain't no fuckin way any of it is ever going to happen, is just beyond comprehension.

You need to stop thinking and start doing. Otherwise, go MGTOW and STFU.

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm seriously considering MGTOW, since apparently I've been a Level 0-3 MGTOW since I was born. Its super easy to semi-retire when you're not dating or LTR

[–]Persaeus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its super easy to semi-retire when you're not dating or LTR

Can't argue with your retirement logic. The only thing that is more expensive than a woman is what comes out of her. Me, I would rather die having been rich in pussy than cash. But, as we say around here you do you, just OWN IT. Best.

[–]FearDearg2015Mod / Red Beret 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

wow. What a puke. Hope you got that all out of your system, cos you only get one chance at this.

You talk a lot about your religious beliefs. I really doubt they are yours. More than likely, they represent something that you picked up along the way, rather than chose to have on purpose. It's like you try to blame the beliefs, while at the same time choosing to hold on to them. And the same goes for your knowledge of MGTOW and TRP. You seem to angle it so that you blame others for exposing you to the ideas, rather than take ownership of it for yourself. Your anger is all pointlessly directed externally. It's a total waste of your masculine energy. Sad, but totally yours to do with what you please.

Maybe just get the wingsuit certification and focus on being awesome at that? Sounds like the only glimmer of something that is authentically you in the whole post. What's stopping you?

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

wow. What a puke. Hope you got that all out of your system, cos you only get one chance at this.

Absolutely. Its like how you feel after almost dying of [reasons] in a hospital somewhere in Asia, back before I was so hardcore BP. No more lamenting Sunken Costs, only moving forward from here.

You talk a lot about your religious beliefs

I had no business bringing my faith into this, as it has no relevance to the hypergamous nature of women. Insulting you fine folk was uncalled for, unproductive, weak and super-duper BP and I will keep myself in line as I do IRL.

http://redpillhandbook.com/7udz0.pdf#page=101 But patronizing us and preaching atheism does a disservice to future believers who will soon find the Red Pill in droves because, as I stated above, faith has nothing to do with the hypergamous nature of women.

AWALT

As I understand TRP/MRP so far, we are not here to discuss how women became hypergamous or why they are hypergamous. We accept that they are, and we are here to craft and implement a Sexual Strategy that will accommodate them into our Vision.

And to be clear, I am not espousing a safe space for theists. Just like we burn the unnecessary fat off by lifting, I believe we need to remove the kind of irrelevant type of assertions commonly seem in feminist arguments.

For further clarification, I am only saying that attacking religion is not a productive avenue of discussion. That is what the Skeptics are there for, let them handle it. Addressing the built in hypergamous nature of religion and how its so favorable to women instead of men, on the other hand, should continue being fair game.

Also, I know I need to STFU, but this is one point I really needed to hamster.

Maybe just get the wingsuit certification and focus on being awesome at that? Sounds like the only glimmer of something that is authentically you in the whole post. What's stopping you?

[Victim Puke], so woe is me... but I am getting on top of it.

[–]FearDearg2015Mod / Red Beret 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nice job pal.

Look, the religion V atheism thing is a sideshow. I'm not a preachy atheist, I'm a "I don't give a fuck" atheist. I'm tuning in to my authentic self, giving zero fucks for the trappings of egoism.

Finally, yeah, women are hypergamous. That's not just because society encourages it, or because cosmo said "you go girrrllll". The cause/effect roles are reversed. TRP is not a battle against hypergamy, it's about acceptance of hypergamy as a trait, and then building strategies that maximise the success for a man, not specifically to undermine the success of women.

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Look, the religion V atheism thing is a sideshow

Yeah, waste of time mentioning it here, and I really dropped the ball mentioning it at all. That post was seriously dumb, but I'm really remorseful for bringing up such a charged topic for no good reason.

I'm not a preachy atheist, I'm a "I don't give a fuck" atheist.

Usually when I comment online, most people think I'm an atheist too. How many times have I defended from your side without even bringing anything up.

I'm tuning in to my authentic self, giving zero fucks for the trappings of egoism.

Wise words.

TRP is not a battle against hypergamy, it's about acceptance of hypergamy as a trait, and then building strategies that maximise the success for a man, not specifically to undermine the success of women.

I think there are some genuinely misogynistic men who can't make that distinction, but I think a lot of TRP guys come here really damaged or broken.

[–]CuntyMcFagNuts69 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Be a creator of circumstance, not a creature of it

[–]screechhater 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

"I wish Walt Disney really was a zombie so I could smoke that fucker up his ass for the bullshit he put in my head."

Really ? It's you that stuffed all your emotions, sexuality, wants and desires for pie in the sky.

Who is stopping you for experiencing a good stiff drink ?

"I get it, it sucks and you realized you've wasted your life. It happens to a lot of people, you're not the first and you won't be the last. I don't think I'll be able to offer much advice, because I'm just a debauched atheist heathen. I will just say, if you ever want to "fornicate" with a girl, then don't ever say "fornicate" again."

Never a truer sentence espoused. (i really do have to wipe the tears away .......)

[–]Arraigned17[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Really ? It's you that stuffed all your emotions, sexuality, wants and desires for pie in the sky.

Its like I'm my 10yo self again, defining my view for the rest of my life. Though I had bad data about one data point (hence why I was so down on Disney, my only source of sexual education at the time). The only thing I'm changing is the happily ever after with the wife. What kind of fool am I to be angry at someone I never met, for things that haven't happened as far as I know.

Who is stopping you for experiencing a good stiff drink ?

The FSM?

Never a truer sentence espoused. (i really do have to wipe the tears away .......)

Even now I know I will never fornicate.

As I dismantle the pedestal I have had women on, I am reconsidering my rejection of plating... but I will not suffer the humiliation/degradation PUA espouses.

[–]screechhater 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your problem is that you refuse to embrace your sexuality, sexual desires and willingness to allow them to fulfill a basic human need. Stoicism in this area does nothing but create hate and isolation. It's a proven fact.

Fornication, or the desire to reproduce with a willing attractive mate is natural, and the idea of suppressing those needs due to some fantasy embraced ideas is definitely a fairy tale, and what you miss, is that the girls also have fantasies related to their sexuality and desires, that you know nothing about.