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Daredevil Discussion Thread - S01E01 'Into the Ring' (self.arrow)

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Episode Summary: Karen Page is framed for the murder of a co-worker, and turns to the new legal firm of Murdock & Nelson for help... unaware that blind lawyer Matt Murdock is secretly a costumed vigilante who prowls the streets of Hell's Kitchen by night.

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Reminder that the links below may have spoilers-- especially the TV links.

Arrow has burned me for the last fucking time, so over the summer we're going to watch a much better show.

On Wednesdays and Sundays we'll have discussion threads regarding Daredevil, starting at episode 1 and going all the way until season 2 is done. For anyone who's just watching the series for the first time, I'd like to keep the spoiler scope as the episode it's discussed, with anything afterwards being spoiler-tagged.

So, without further adieu, welcome to "What Arrow should've been: the TV show".

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[–]Jacolini [スコア非表示]  (24子コメント)

My sides hurt. I laughed way too much when I saw this thread. It's the ultimate "Fuck this shit, I'm out".

[–]venn177[S] [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

You haven't even begun to see how "fuck this shit, I'm out" I am.

[–]Drea-Nor [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That awkward moment when you find yourself enjoying Legends of Tomorrow and Supergirl more than Arrow. Would mention Flash but that goes without saying

[–]PainStorm14Should have never watched Season 3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

After season 3 of arrow Supergirl was very enjoyable

[–]Cannibal_Puppet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I love Legends of Tomorrow. Sure it has plot holes, but the show is at least fun to watch. That's something I can't say I've thought about Arrow since The Climb.

[–]FlyingRockRip Arrow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Welcome to the Darhk Side! The Villains prevailed once again!

[–]Coolica1May the corn be with you [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Haha nice new sub-layout :D

[–]Brimstone747 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I am also out of this fucking shit.

[–]NoThoughtForUserName [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yet here you all are.......

[–]Red_of_Head [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

You should've seen /r/Dexter after the series finale.

[–]venn177[S] [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Now I'm done with the 'fuck this shit, I'm out'.

[–]Drea-Nor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You're killing me ... I laughed more looking at this post and the rest of /r/arrow the last hour than /r/funny makes me laugh usually

[–]Wheresmyspacebar [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I fucking love you dude.

I never thought i could laugh so hard about something so dumb.

[–]imariaprime [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've been following this from /r/all since it got crazy... I feel for you guys. You've taken all this with such awesome humor, that I'm sad your show is squandering such an awesome fanbase.

On the plus side, Daredevil is awesome. So here's hoping it helps soothe the wounds?

[–]venn177[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Daredevil's dreamy fight scenes can soothe anything it wants.

[–]Jacolini [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's... It's beautiful. :')

[–]JonLuca[M] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Yeah, this episode was just too ridiculous. We're switching over to Daredevil discussions now.

[–]sean151 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

I've been meaning to start Dardevil ever since Arrow went to shit. I'm in.

[–]ClintBartonHawkguy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Daredevil is like if Arrow spent every minute of its screentime being as good as it could possibly be.

[–]HolyTurd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's amazing

[–]tarsnI keep my promises kid [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've got to catch up on season 2. I am a couple of episodes in.

[–]your_mind_aches [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Also watch Jessica Jones, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., and Jessica Jones

[–]Tom_thefavorite_son [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

That child screaming... "I CAN't SEE.. I CAN'T SEE!!!!"

damn.

[–]snezima23 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is great.

[–]SordidjawsCALHM BACK HERE JEEESHHHICAAAA [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I love you mods <3

[–]Wheresmyspacebar [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh god, if anyone has not seen this show yet, ya'll in for a treat.

I wish i could rewatch it without knowing what was coming.

[–]Karnezis31 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

This show looks like a movie, the fight scenes feel like they have weight in those punches and the lead is likable.

[–]IMAROBOTLOL [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The best part is that there's no soap opera bullshit at all.

Well maybe a little, but it's minimal and serves a bit more for character dimensions than it does for fucking stupid episode padding.

God dammit I can't even finish season 3 of Arrow, I'm not surprised the show never recovered from that trajectory.

[–]BKMajda [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Season 2 gets a little worse with the drama, but still bearable.

[–]mrlowe98 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The fight scenes between Arrow and Daredevil are like night and day. Even at its best, Arrow's fight scenes were downright mediocre compared to Daredevil's. And at Arrow's worst, Daredevil makes it look worse than a third rate Bollywood production.

[–]GhostCheese [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

the hallway fight, man. the hallway fight.

[–]GyroGOGOZeppeli [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I haven't watched Arrow since I finished Season 2 (I saw a bit of Season 3 but I tapped out) but I was heading over to the Flash subreddit when I noticed that I was still subscribed here. So I go "well the finale just came out, I wanna see what the reactions are" and lo and behold my eyes when I see this Daredevil reaction thread. I'm losing it right now, I've heard Arrow has gotten bad after Season 2 but this is just another level.

[–]Vagabond226 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You have no idea.

Hell even I don't know how bad it really gets, I noped out around episode 15.

[–]Rwings [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I made it to episode 2 before I realized there was going to be no upside. Really wish they would have proven me wrong.

[–]venn177[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've been the biggest believer in the 'it could get better' camp. I've held off on doing this for as long as I could, I thought maybe the finale could do something to really bring me back.

Nah, just a big middle finger. So here's my middle finger back.

[–]your_mind_aches [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I love Season 3. And the beginning of Season 4 is good too. But... it gets bad.

[–]Travus24 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

LMFAO What a legend!

[–]btm29 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

ah yes, nothing like a little eye bleach to ease the soul

[–]Markymark161 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Unfortunately, a little eye bleach didn't go so well for young Matt Murdock.

[–]naimnotname [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

I wasn't really fond of the black get up, I understand this show is about pragmatism, but still I missed the red guy. Good opening.

[–]whiteshark70 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Awesome fight scenes, no relationship drama, and a superhero actually helping people out. Thank grodd for Matthew Murdock.

[–]ReyneOfFire [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

no relationship drama

ehh in season 2

[–]whiteshark70 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Shhhhhhh.... We're only on the first episode!

[–]Durzo_BlintOrganic! [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

But S2 is good relationship drama. His ex is batshit insane and Matt knows when to end a bad relationship.

[–]Fresh4 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

At least that stuff lasted like, 20 seconds.

[–]your_mind_aches [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It was good relationship drama. All four of the Marvel shows have good relationship drama.

[–]Gooflactus [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Can we borrow the Sub theme from /r/Defenders ?

EDIT: You are a god

EDIT AGAIN: O GOD THERE IS FLAIR TO

[–]venn177[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'll update the CSS when we get to season 2.

HAVE TO KEEP CURRENT WITH THE SHOW.

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[–]Jacob_MangoFelicity and Friends [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Great idea. Will rewatch after exams so basically episode 4.

[–]froet213kil [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

now this is the ultimate shitpost.

[–]FrankieTAE [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

hahaha mods giving no fucks.

[–]the_456_Ambassador [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I liked the fighting technique Murdock used as compared to Arrow's, it's realistic because each individual he fights requires multiple hits for them to go down

[–]your_mind_aches [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Arrow had great fight scenes in the early days. Not Daredevil level but they were good.

[–]Insanepaco247 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

One of my favorite pilot episodes in a long time. That intro, with him just angrily smacking the goon around and leading straight into the title sequence, got me hyped for a character I didn't care about before. I'm also in love with the ending. Perfectly set up the season, and with a great soundtrack to boot.

Also, this is hilarious.

[–]nerdys [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Omg I started cracking up when I saw the new pictures. I love this subreddit.

[–]majavic [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Here from /r/all. Never saw arrow, but I'm with you. Fuck that show.

[–]killtheBS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thank you for this post

[–]aidan19971 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

holy shit this is great

[–]KimJongPooonn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is the best thing.

[–]SuTvVoO [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I love you mods.

[–]cosmichero1996 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I never watched Daredevil but i've heard nothing but amazing things about it. I'll give it a watch tonight for sure. :)

[–]DaBaS3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Can we get some crochet discussion threads too?

[–]chelo102 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I fucking love you mods.

[–]JtheKillMachine [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

LMAO...this post deserves all the up votes

http://i.imgur.com/Yu4I8BX.gif

[–]Shinjukugarb [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The people who haven't seen Daredevil are in for a ride.

[–]BsharpmajorgeneralFhelicity and Khorn are my OTP [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Another alternative is to explore the expansive DCAU. I've been watching random episodes of Superman TAS and own Batman TAS. Plus it links to Justice League and Justice League Unlimited, and I here there are a number of smaller shows that connect too.

Kinda like what Arrowverse could/should be?

[–]Sentry459 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That could be awesome

[–]BsharpmajorgeneralFhelicity and Khorn are my OTP [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

One of the Batman-Superman crossovers was so good that they rebranded the episodes into a movie.

And then there was that episode Superman played Batman, but that's probably not feasible for Arrowverse. :P

[–]Sentry459 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh, I just meant that's a cool idea for the sub, I hadn't even thought of for the arrowverse, but maybe with Supergirl joining that CW she could play white canary?

[–]hundreddollarman#NoLaurelNoArrow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh my Grodd. This is fucking hilarious.

[–]Patrick_k32 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is officially my favourite sub

[–]KnightG121 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Wait, is there not a daredevil subreddit?

[–]Chawizawd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh there is, but this just seems like a more organic development for this subreddit.

[–]Vil1inger [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Will this be an ORGANIC vigilante show? /s

But in reality, I think this might be a good idea to discuss the similarities, differences /b/ Arrow S1E1 and DD S1*E1. Seeing that both shows only have a fantastic two season run.

[–]TigerMeltz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I love this sub. Ive been on some subs that gave really stuck it out, Dexter and Bleach come to mind, but you guys the biggest balls to do this. Bravo. Also, hot damn the devil is in those murdock boys

[–]PsychoEliteNZI spas out every time I watch The Flash [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This was on my front page. I noticed the Title and thought a rewatch? then saw the subreddit... Oh my god, what did I miss?

[–]tarsnI keep my promises kid [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Only the worst season of any TV show ever made.

[–]MikeOB2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I refreshed the page and literally laughed out loud.

Daredevil is the show this sub needs AND the one it deserves

[–]OneYearSteakDay [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Reminds me of the Dexter series finale wrap up:

/r/Dexter: [S05E14] Ozymandias - Post Episode Discussion

Breaking Bad was on directly opposite Dexter, the Ozy thread got way more attention than the actual Post-Episode discussion. At what point does someone just say "Fuck it."

Seriously though, Daredevil is an awesome show, everyone should watch it.

[–]MintyFreshNipplesYou give love a bad name [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This is the most hilarious thing I've ever seen from a subreddit like this

Well fucking done, dude.

[–]Maparyetal [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The Dexter subreddit did it with Breaking Bad when season 8 turned to shit.

[–]the_green_archer [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Wow, this is actually a great idea. Defenders sub is pretty dead most of the time, meanwhile this place can have a good discussion.

[–]Uhavefailedthiscity1 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Hard to have an active sub when everyone binges seasons in a week and discussion dies after two weeks.

[–]the_green_archer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah that's pretty much the reason. Eh, I don't mind giving DD another rewatch.

[–]PmMeUrGrammerMistake [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Okay, I dont watch Arrow, I am sorry, why are you guys posting about Daredevil? What just happened?

[–]Uhavefailedthiscity1 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Season was pretty bad, mod just said fuck it let's talk about what Arrow should look like.

[–]PmMeUrGrammerMistake [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Alright. Thanks! Hope it gets better

[–]Uhavefailedthiscity1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The first two seasons were almost as good as Daredevil though.

[–]FlyingRockRip Arrow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

the man who created Green Lantern (Yes the live action movie) is in charge of Arrow now.

So no, it wont =(

[–]Stealth528 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bullshit happened

[–]FireIsTheCleanser [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Fuck it. Let's not even discuss Arrow when season 5 starts. Let's just start threads for Jessica Jones or Orange is the New Black or Spongebob. Just so long as it isn't Arrow.

[–]schmuttt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is bizarre, I literally started watching DD a couple of hours ago...

[–]lithium78 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Season 1 of Daredevil was fucking awesome. I haven't had the chance to watch Season 2 yet, but I can't wait. It is everything Arrow could have been if Uncle Guggie didn't turn it into a stupid tumblr fan fiction show.

[–]Ignisiel [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You guys have gone full Dexter sub here. They did the same thing, putting up Breaking Bad stuff. Holy shit, I love it and I'm not even that big a fan of Daredevil.

[–]Classic_Wingers [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I am totally down with this just being a Daredevil subreddit from now on. I know there already is one but I can't go through another season of Arrow after that finale unless something major happens during the offseason.

[–]Karnezis31 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Does anyone think when they're making Daredevil, they show an episode of Arrow to the crew and say,"Lets not do that"?

[–]Sentry459 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The new theme is fantastic, I hope someone shows this to guggenheim he who shall not be named

[–]rmw6190 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So karen was lying about the secret files. And Matt could tell with his almost smoak-like human lie detecting powers. Yet Matt just let her go on with her lie. I just dont see how this show is going to top arrow.

[–]thekingdomcoming [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I straight up thought this was the daredevil sub because I just started binge watching daredevil for the first time....for this exact reason.

This is hysterical. Especially coming from a mod

[–]mykel_0717 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I flipped out when I saw this thread and the new banner. Well played mods.

[–]invaderark12 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

sees thread on frontpage

sees subreddit

I have many questions!

[–]Revived_BaconFelicity is the one true God [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Beautiful!

[–]Jezamiah"Nice flair kid" [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Quick question lads I haven't watched the finale yet should I bother? And what would you rate it?

[–]Uhavefailedthiscity1 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

6 or 6.5/10

[–]Jezamiah"Nice flair kid" [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

That's actually higher than I expected.

[–]Uhavefailedthiscity1 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Well it's a season finale so it's almost impossible to go lower.

[–]tarsnI keep my promises kid [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Gotta give it a couple of points just for ending right?

[–]Uhavefailedthiscity1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I also liked the whole Oliver Queen speech on top of the car, bonus points for that.

[–]ElectricGhostD [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

3/10.

[–]BsharpmajorgeneralFhelicity and Khorn are my OTP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I haven't seen it, but apparently a bald guy beats on a blind dude???

/s I know who Daredevil and Fisk are.

[–]ZephyrPhantom [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Lmao, this is brilliant. Kudos to you guys for keeping things positive, no matter what!

[–]Brazilian_Slaughter [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm in.

[–]SalmonBrah [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Made the switch a long time ago. You will most likely not be able to ever go back after you're done!

[–]SimplyHaunted [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Does Daredevil ever pick up? I swear it took me 4 times to try to make it through the pilot before I would turn it off from boredom. I'm only on episode 5, but I can't seem to get in to it.

[–]tarsnI keep my promises kid [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's a more... intense show. Kind of has tension building throughout. It might not be for you though. I had the same kind of feeling about Jessica Jones. I could tell it was a good show.. but it wasn't what I watched superhero TV for.

[–]Gintoki79 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Should have gone with this banner poster, looks more bad ass

https://b.thumbs.redditmedia.com/eyJq6koLsVjiNS758UTBra1ca6IqETDp_fGEFs2Ftwk.png

[–]junglemonkey47 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Haven't watched since Legends of Tomorrow started, but because I haven't had time not because of quality. Has it really gotten that bad??

[–]not---a---bot [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I liked the episode, but the pacing was sort of slow. The confession scene could have been much tighter.

[–]Exbando [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Wait...you expect me to be able to watch the first episode of Daredevil without just binging the rest of the series?

[–]Dei-Ex-Machina [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Holy fuck the banner, this is just too funny. I love you man.

[–]invaderark12 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

In all honesty, should I watch more Arrow? I haven't seen it since season 1, should I watch season 2?

[–]hindukid [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

just got here from MCU sub, first of all amazing choice, you are in for a hell of a ride. while you are at it, get involved in JJ. The second season of DD is purely amazing!! Good luck!!

[–]DeoGame [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Just started watching Daredevil as it's on Digital HD.

Holy crap was it good. Charlie Cox was well cast, Foggy and Karen are fun, I'm looking forward to seeing more Kingpin, it's awesome.

[–]Sleyck [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

LMFAO best thread ever, regarding daredevil i love the show might rewatch to comment with you guys

[–]aljy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Daredevil was really when I stopped regularly watching Arrow, because I couldn't deal with melodrama of Arrow after Daredevil did it masterfully. But this may actually be the most hilarious thing ever!

[–]makeswordcloudsagain [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Here is a word cloud of every comment in this thread, as of this time: http://i.imgur.com/IgdP65h.png

[source code] [contact developer] [request word cloud]

[–]IAMA_Drunk_Armadilloflair-Daredevil [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is fucking hilarious

[–]invidium [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Dont know how people are just realizing arrow is trash now... Its been shit since day 1.

[–]TheSneakySeal [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Honestly thought Daredevil season 1 was boring and season 2 fell flat after the punisher left, but that's just me. The Hand arc ended pretty poorly.

edit: Alright guys. At least give me argument as to why I was wrong, but I'm sticking to my guns here. It wasn't amazing but it was better than Arrow. Not as good as Flash.