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Carlos Queiroz (self.reddevils)

KirraniumManchester United が 投稿

Hi, I've heard a lot of things said about Carlos Queiroz and his time as United's assistant manager.

Everything I have heard has been mostly positive and a lot of people say that he was the best out of all of Sir Alex Ferguson's number two's.

Anyway, I know that he did a lot to help the team, tactically and defensively during his time which is probably why we had a successful few seasons in Europe during his second spell at the club and even after he left.

So I'm just wondering what it was exactly that he brought to the team in terms of tactics? I've heard people say he was very smart and went into a lot more detail than most coaches but I'm still not sure what exactly he brought to the team tactically. Was it new formations, a new style of play? Any ideas?

Cheers

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[–]mufcirclejerk 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

Prior to his arrival United were relatively inflexible. Our game had been, since 1990, 4-4-2: two quick, skilful wingers; a hard man and a dynamic box-to-box midfielder; a goal-scorer and a tricky genius up front. This endured for a long time but didn't serve us well in Europe: we couldn't resist the top teams well enough. In 1997, Ferguson began experimenting in the knockout stages in Europe. For example against Porto in 97 he played a 4-3-3: Beckham, Johnsen, and Giggs in a narrower midfield, with Cantona, Cole, and Solskjaer up front. We reverted to 4-4-2 for the semi-finals, and lost 1-0 home and away to Dortmund.

When Ferguson had signed Veron in 2001, he intended to use him in a four-man midfield with Scholes playing off the striker in Europe. This would close our usual counter-attacking game down and give us the ability to pack the midfield with tough players (Veron was a warrior in Italy) but also break quickly with precision passing and pace.

The trouble was that he had a mismatch on the flanks: Beckham was one-dimensional and starting to be found out, and Giggs was at the time slightly injury-prone but dynamic and drove us forward when fit.

Ferguson also struggled to coach at the top level in Europe, tactically. We really got lucky with '99, and in '08 we only beat Barca because of Carlos Q.

The best example of what Carlos brought was the semi-final vs. Barca in 2008. All the players and Ferguson talk about it extensively in their autobiographies. Queiroz studied Barca for weeks and watched the positions of all their players. He put specific markers on the pitch for all the players, showing them where they needed to stand when Barca were in possession. How they needed to react to certain players getting the ball. Very very detailed, methodical work.

He also helped United bring in more sports science, nutritional work, etc. Ferguson was one of the first managers to use an eye specialist to help improve peripheral vision in his playing staff, and he loved all the stuff Quieroz came up with.

Worth remembering that Quieroz was hated by the fans at the time!

[–]jbiresqHerrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Neville (I think it's him) mentions the difference in preparation between 08 semis and 09 final in his autobiography. In 2008, like you said, it was immaculate. But in 2009, it was all focused on letting Pique have the ball. When that didn't work and they scored from basically their first attack we were fucked.

[–]KirraniumManchester United[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I went to the 08 semi-final against Barca at Old Trafford... Looking back I wish I had paid more attention to United's defensive shape.

Was Quieroz really hated by United fans? Looking back at his spells I don't remember too much negativity towards him, apart from maybe overworking the players?

[–]mufcirclejerk 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah people really didn't like him. I didn't have a season ticket back then but I went to most home games and the sentiment was really negative. Pick up Daniel Taylor's book "This is the One" for an insight into the thinking of United fans around the time. It was supremely negative, especially when we sacked Keane and (effectively) van Nistelrooy in the same season.

[–]UnalaqCarrick 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was one of the key aspects in our transition to a more continental style of play from a traditional English style, with an emphasis on technical ability, good passing and controlling the game instead of physicality.

This is highlighted by Carrick replacing Roy Keane, two players with very different styles of play in the same position.

[–]mufctezSchweinsteiger 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently he was to thank for us knocking out Barca in the run up to the final in 2008.

[–]HarryGoLockyKing Cantona 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fergie would always be the first to admit tactical analysis was never his strong point, he could make a team find and extra gear and would make sure every player gave their limit at all times but going in to Europe in the mid 90's he realised he needed to take a step back from the technical part of the game and delegate it out. It worked perfectly and this is one of the main reasons we were able to win the 2008 champions league

Carlos was the best tactician and was meticulous in every detail of his work. He would find weaknesses in teams they didn't even know they had and would relay it all on the fly to Fergie

I honestly would love to see him back at the club in a sporting director role with Giggs in the Under 21's learning from him.

[–]DJkoolkidzklanMartial the LEGEND 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

All I know is that he did brilliantly as Iran's head coach. If he can do well with that crop of players and all the issues with the Iranian FA, he's quite the manager