Welcome to part 2 of our feature on KiA (check out part 1
here). That’s right, there’s enough garbage content from KiA to warrant a second part. You see, KiA is big on trying to claim that the only thing they are being accused of is being sexist. I’m here to shed some light on the fact that they’re actually trying to defend themselves from being all-around bigots in general. So let’s look at all the other ways KiA is a hate sub, yeah?
It’s about ethics in being anti-queer
Hatred toward women is one thing, but KiA doesn’t shy away from the main tenants of bigotry exhibited by catch-all hate subs like /r/the_donald (or whatever fractured sub they’re all clamoring to as they begin to eat their own). The harassment centered around Brianna Wu is where transphobia rears its ugly head in KiA.
For starters, KiA falls squarely in the transphobia crowd. In an effort to attack Wu, they have repeated rumors that insist Wu is going through transition and, therefore, mentally ill.
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Again, the belief that transitioning is a mental disorder is a belief perpetrated by transphobes.
Hi. Appreciate the thoughts. Wu is spreading herself across the media
defining GamerGate as a harassment movement, telling outrageous lies about you guys
and it's worth collecting the reasons she should not be believed in one place. I thought so, anyway.
Edit: My point is:
she's mendacious, vindictive and immoral
and no amount of tiptoeing around her is going to make her stop. (She's counting on your sensitivity to excuse her excesses.) But people like Wu shouldn't expect to bully and lie about other people without it coming back to bite them one day. You can't fight a bush fire with a damp rag, which is why the story is punchy. [+758, actual Yiannopoulos post]
The amount of moralfags up in this bitch is annoying.
[+39]
Here we have Milo Yiannopoulos, self-hating gay man
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and neoconservative
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writer for Breitbart, solidifying himself as the poster boy for GG and KiA as a whole by joining in on hating the other. KiA obviously eats this up—they have a minority on their side now, and not only that, but he’s gay, and if you have a gay man agreeing with your transphobia, then it must mean transphobia is okay. At least, that’s how KiA sees it.
They really make no attempt to hide that their hatred toward Wu just also happens to align with their transphobia.
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Shouldn't they have went with a transsexual actress?
Don't want to erase the transsexual experience, now do we?
[+76]
“Hey guys, we’re totally inclusive to LGBT! Now let me drop some transphobic comments to prove that point!”
They also got upset at the inclusion of a transgender character in a video game and began to harass the developer responsible for it (bonus points for KiA: the developer is a woman).
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Careful guys, some idiot @ kotaku/Polygon might write an article on GG being homophobic, transophobic, protesting the inclusion of gay and trans characters in BG and driving “game writer” Amber Scott out of gaming after a “sustained harassment campaign”
[+82 before deletion]
Actually, I do tend to not like gay and trans characters in media.
I much prefer characters that are gay and trans, instead.
[+188]
If SJW's could just write good characters that happened to be gay or trans, most people wouldn't have a problem with it. But they put their idelology and "message" first, quality becomes a non-issue for them. [+153]
Hetero white men deciding on what makes a gay or trans character a “good character.” More on this story later tonight on Channel Zero-Self Awareness News.
There was also the time that they drove away a hero of theirs because they wouldn’t drop the transphobia issue.
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The transgender issue is absolutely poisonous.
I don't give a single fuck if someone is transgender or not; from what I've seen most people in GG don't either--but this whole thing where being transgender is a free pass for being a paedophile or whatever is ludicrous.
[+94]
That's not what anyone was saying to him?
Kern decided that she was no longer trans with a wave of his hand as if it was a medal given to her. If a gay man I'd arrested is he no longer gay? [-19]
Sorry but it should be perfectly acceptable to call a trans person by their original pronoun.
Again, I have no problem with trans people, I just don't think you can change gender.
They're still beautiful and wonderful (if indeed they were), but I'll refer to you with whatever I feel like at the time and that doesn't make me a monster.
You can't change gender just like you can't change race. You can wear and call yourself whatever you like, but I'm not going to call an orange an apple because it was painted green. [+13]
“I refuse to accept volumes of scientific work and the entire professional scientific community that says that I am wrong!” And you guys wonder why your heroes have left you in the dark.
KiA also tries to contend with the issue of homophobia as part of gaming culture, namely the use of homophobic slurs in online gaming.
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Gay dude here (and a furry. Gasp!). Been here since the beginning and pretty public about it when it's been relevant and I've never had any hate thrown my way.
"Faggot" has to be the most disarmed offensive word of all time at this point and doesn't exactly represent anti-queer sentiment.
Taking a word or statement and extrapolating an entire system of belief from a person is SJW logic.
But even if there were people with anti-queer sentiment here (which there probably are),
as long as they aren't violating the rules, what business is it of mine?
Sure, I'd rather people be nice to each other and agree on my positions, but that's the double-edged sword of free speech.
I'll put up with other people's shit so that I can sling my own.
[+37]
Here we have Asa Gayman speaking for the entire gay community by giving a free pass on homophobic slurs because “they don’t bother him.” He finishes the race by including a bit about “free speech” as well.
I personally can't speak to the 'trans' stuff so much cause I don't really bark up that tree so much, but
in regards to 'faggot', I feel like it much like 'nigger' is discussed here.
I disagree that it is in anyway 'anti-gay'. In fact, I would argue that such is a requirement for true acceptance. You can argue that this is a 'minority' opinion, which is very possible, but it is one shared by my lesbian sister and her wife, so clearly even amongst the very group we are talking about there are 'dissenters'.
[+11]
Just some white men deciding on whether or not hate slurs are hateful. Add in a healthy dash of “I have gay friends” too.
I'm pretty sure this is a textbook case for an "OP is a fag" meme.
It's a word. A word that, thanks to the internet, has positive, negative, and neutral uses. You sound like someone who understands the concept of "reclaiming" words.
Faggot is one such term.
It could be used in place of "person": An illustrator can otherwise be identified as an art fag or draw fag.
It can also be used as an insult that may, or may not, be tied to sexuality:
Freddie Mercury is homosexual, not a worthless faggot like Justin Beiber.
It can also be applied in the modern lexical format as a term for homosexuality.
This can be as a playful endearment (like when Milo refers to himself as a dangerous faggot) or as an insult when directed at a heterosexual who may be offended by being mislabeled.
To give you context, I'm speaking as someone who'd describe their tastes as heteroflexible. I don't really give a shit where that puts me on the faggot scale, but I'm pretty sure it's closer to bi than straight. Hell, even if I WERE straight as an arrow, it's still just a word.
Sticks and stones, faggot. <3
[+14]
Quit being such a faggot.
[+5]
Sometimes, KiAers don’t need to do mental gymnastics to justify their hatred. They just come right out and say it.
While KiA tries to keep their homophobia hidden, they can’t seem to stop finding heroes amongst right-wing homophobes. Jason Miller, for instance, is a neocon blogger-hailed-hero of GG and KiA. In fact, one time he even went to /r/ainbow once to defend KiA.
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It didn’t end up well for him when someone pointed out that he’s a
raging MRA homophobe.
Ah well, they have one self-hating gay man on their side, and that’s all KiA really needs to believe that they aren’t anti-queer at all. You know, much like how Fox News hires African American anchors so they will specifically rail against the black community. Or more aptly: how neocon website Breitbart hired a self-hating gay man to rail against LGBT progressivism.
It’s about ethics in racism
I’ve already presented a few examples of racism when it became a bonus when KiA was railing against the woman they were hating for a particular week, but let’s get down to the specific examples where they are just unabashedly racist as well.
For starters, there is a clear link between KiA and 8chan. For the longest time, KiA’s sidebar used to have links to /gamergatehq/, the main GG board on 8chan. However, there was a second board called /ggrevolt/, which was created because they were upset at the moderation on /gamergatehq/ that was deleting a lot of racist content (basically imagine a scenario in which someone leaves the Nazi Party because they feel as if they are not extreme enough) which also appeared on the sidebar. After /ggrevolt/ was removed from the sidebar, half of the KiA community became upset, which led to them doxxing their own members.
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With that in mind, let’s take a look at a few examples.
For starters, let’s talk about KiA’s fascination with “cultural Marxism.” This is your crash course about neo-conservatives—if someone is going on about “cultural Marxism,” they’re a neocon (and usually by extension a neo-Nazi, as the Nazis started off railing against the very same thing). Which is rather interesting, considering KiA likes to periodically claim that they are “leftists.”
guys if you want to be taken seriously you should maybe stop continously linking yourself to the right wing world, especially when it doesn't have anything to do with games. [-54]
Calling someone or something right wing doesn't invalidate it. Bet they didn't teach you that at SRD.
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Oops. I thought you guys weren’t right-wingers though? They sure like to celebrate when a right-winger says they’re on their side, however.
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Idk. Good to see we have more support from celebs but Dean Cain is an outspoken conservative. All this will do is just give the SJW more ammo to the "Gamergate is a right wing X group" gun.
At this point, the right wing is not the enemy.
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Sure seems like the opinion of a leftist to me! Here it is again with a known CT user talking about “cultural Marxism.”
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Did you just seriously jump straight into calling /u/blinky64 a Nazi? There is nothing in the comment to justify that.
[+41]
Except, you know, his entire post history, but alright. KiA proceeds to play devil’s advocate for another 133 comments after that. If nobody stands up for the neo-Nazis, then who will?
Speaking of Nazis, they’d also love to stick up for the KKK as well.
Hell yeah I'd stick up for the Klan.
I'd even stick up for something even worse, like feminists.
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I'm not going to say I'll stick up for the Klan.
But
I'll stick up for Klansmen who are physically assaulted simply for being Klansmen.
It's a stupid thing to be, between being utterly discredited and shitty to begin with, but free association remains a right.
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I don't care what people think as long as they aren't being criminal, or political, because then the point is caring about what they think. Doesn't mean I'll go around working to no platform people or assault them for wrong think.
I fully support the Klans right to exist as long as they aren't resorting to violence or discrimination,
and I'd definitely defend them against the same. [+6]
Newsflash: the Klan has been resorting to violence and discrimination since its inception. Anyone not blinded by the white can see that. But considering KiA’s fascination with yelling at the BLM movement (Remember when this was about video games? Me neither.), it’s pretty clear what category they fall under.
She is also a mexican immigrant... ammo for trump.
[+39]
For the love of God, these numskulls are going to get him elected [+65]
If you never clean up after yourself, eventually you need to call an exterminator.
[+20]
It’s about ethics in genocide, clearly. Then they get on about the execution of Jamar Clark.
He was assaulting his girlfriend, assaulted the EMT's when they arrived, tried to attack and disarm a cop, got shot. #BLM AMIRITE
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Like a good little bigot, a KiAer is trying to rewrite history. Clark approached EMTs (didn’t attack anyone), cops threw him to the grown, pinned him down, handcuffed him, then executed him. KiA seems to have a habit of following every story in which an African American is murdered and the murderer is cleared.
And there's also the fact that Martin was not the cute boy the media kept showing on TV.
He dressed and acted like a thug in pictures on his Facebook profile with guns and the middle finger (and likely also in real life).
But people act like he was an innocent schoolgirl who had a difficult time fending off Zimmerman even though ZM got some pretty nasty scars on his head from that "boy".
[+30]
Remember when they complained about Michael BRown's pictures
making him look like a thug?
Apparently, the media has responsibility to present the victim of an alleged crime in the absolute best light, even if he couldn't be arsed to himself. [+21]
Don’t mind KiAers using dog whistles here. Nope, totally not racist, especially with automatically assuming the worst out of Trayvon Martin “just because.” Except the “just because” here is, “I’m a raging racist who thinks all black people are criminals.”
Let’s try another one. How about a made-up story?
Near where I live, there was an incident several weeks ago where
some black thug
was interfering with paramedics who were treating a man that he had assaulted, then when the cops arrived to deal with him he allegedly attempted to take one of the officer's guns and they shot him. BlackLivesMatter has been protesting outside the local police station for weeks by barricading the road (blocking emergency vehicles) and throwing bricks and molotov cocktails; some of which are landing in people's yards who live near the station.
Pretty much the entire neighborhood is lower-class black families.
Those families have been pleading with the protesters to leave. The family of the man who was killed has been pleading with the protesters to leave. It's pretty universally recognized by everyone involved that their protest is doing more harm than good. They don't care. They're just there to scream and shout and throw shit and break things.
I'm thinking it might be time for Roof Koreans again.
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“I think it’s time we start killing black people.” Thanks for clearing that up for us, KiA. Just for one more good measure, let’s see how they really feel about African Americans.
She said something to the measure of "Don't say the word 'nigger'" And they got her fired for saying that.
Nigger is the new Voldemort.
[+357]
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
[+190]
To anyone reading this, and most likely screen capping it to post it elsewhere out of context saying "Look at at the racist GooberGoofers upvoting this comment on KIA!" It is most likely in reference to this song. And this has already been pointed out below but I would just like to repeat for clarity. But I'm probably just wasting my time and there's a sjw already foaming at the mouth as we speak. [+190]
“Ha ha, okay guys, we had our fun saying the n-word, but seriously, here’s some bullshit where I justify why we all just upvoted the n-word.” Wew lad, I don’t even know if McKayla Maroney can jump through hoops like that.
Are we still not convinced that they are neo-Nazis?
so white supremacy just involves sitting down and engaging in civilised discourse? [+41]
White supremacy is anything civilized,
apparently. I honestly am starting to think the irrationals just want to tear down anything resembling order, fairness and process because they've decided that between "The Patriarchy" and "The Whiteriarchy" these fundamental concepts of society are tools of oppression. Oh, and science, too. You know, the thing that made just about every human advance possible.
If rationality and order are going to be defined as racist I'm very quickly going to get to the point where I start saying
"Yep, I'm racist and proud of it."
I am not going to throw western society and the principles it stands on under the bus because these idiots have suddenly decided those principles are socially unacceptable.
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100% pure white supremacy talking points from Stormfront. “White people are civilized, we stand for order, muh Western culture” etc., all the garbage you hear from any hate sub on Reddit.
Let’s switch gears a bit. Ever since the popularity of Donald “Little Hands” Trump, KiA has also taken up yelling about spooky Muslims.
For starters, they (like the rest of Reddit) turned on Ahmed the clock kid once they realized that nobody was talking about their lord and savior STEM.
He didn't even assemble it. This guy goes over all the parts and why the kid did nothing but take the case off a normal clock and put it in a pencil case.
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Well then that settles it. Take him away boys. [-17]
The point is people think it was made to start a controversy, not sincerely.
It has no purpose otherwise. Therefore people think this is a scam, that's so far working.
There's no reason to justify what happened, or anyones belief it was ever intended to "be" a bomb.But there's plenty saying they (his family) were trying to make this happen.
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Yes, the child tricked the police into arresting him for bringing a clock to school. Are you people fucking retarded. [-12]
I'm not saying the police were right, but he went around showing it to multiple teachers until he got the result he wanted. It took him HOURS to get the result as he kept showing it to teachers every class (why?) until 6th period. People who interviewed the kid and the teachers have said this.
He didn't make it for a school project, he didn't even make the device, yet he was showing it to every teacher he could find. Why? A teacher even told him to put it away but he still kept showing it around. Why? Why was the device at school at all?
And considering there is a relevant law they're citing, yeah "tricked" may be the case. Imagine walking into a government building with that device, think people wouldn't give you odd looks?
Look the situation isn't good, common sense should come before the law every now and then.
But just because it's a kid, I'm not ignoring the details. Being objective protects you from liars looking to profit.
Ever seen that Boondocks episode where a teacher called Reilly a "nigga"?
This may be like that. [+17]
Because he was a dumbass kid who was proud of a minor accomplishment?
I remember kids going around school showing off stupid shit to everybody. [+3, controversial cross]
They kid is 14 and clearly smart, I don't buy it.
He's apparently built plenty of other things that he actually did in fact make. He's apparently in the school robotics club for instance.
Why the hell would he want to show everyone at school a clock he clearly didn't make? Hell considering whats said about him I bet his parents made the damn clock.
According to witness reports he apparently didn't even talk or explain the device, he said nothing and things got out of hand. How is that pride?
It's shady.
There's no way i can look at this and not call it shady.
Yeah the school is fucking dumb but the scenario is shady. [+7]
This one hits all the points. “He didn’t do anything special” for starters, which translates to, “Ugh, people are saying positive things about a Muslim kid! Please stop!” Then we go down the full-blown conspiracy path that insists a 14-year-old boy is a mastermind progressive who tricked trained police officers and school administrators. Or there’s Door B: KiA needs the brown kid to be the bad guy.
Let’s try for something a little more obvious, yeah? How about the time when KiA fell for the rumors that there were “rape gangs” on the streets of Cologne (which was later disproved)?
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BUT BUT MUH ISLAMAPHOBIA OR MUH ARABAPHOBIA OR MUH .... [+176]
You ever notice how the whole
meme of "Islamophobia"
only came into its own after an attack by Muslim extremists that killed 3000 Americans? There's something really fucked about that.
But then again I'm /pol/ so what do I know.
[+189]
Islamophobia was coined by the muslim brotherhood in order to get the western media to spread it around as comparable to homophobia an others in that same vein. [+96]
How dense does your skull have to be if you consider Islamophobia a “meme” and you think it only cropped up after 9/11? Europe had entire crusades against the religion. Oh, and KiA finishes off with a dash of YouTube video conspiracy theories. But let’s delve a little deeper, yeah?
This is one of many reasons why
I honestly do consider myself an "Islamophobe"(As well as slightly anti-religion in general, which is admittedly a strong factor in my hate of Islam.). Others include that many of Islam's teachings dictate that I should be killed for my beliefs, the actual misogyny found in the Quran, and pretty much every other facet of the culture, other than some of the pretty awesome art it produced(I find it to be awesome that artists still managed to exert some creativity under the litany of anti-creativity rules and regulations their culture put on them.)
[+87]
I also have no problem with hating a toxic culture that promotes rape and murder especially when
people use "culture" as a shield to detract criticism on grounds of being accused as racist, xenophobic or whatever trendy catch all term gets thrown around.
Even more so when "culture" is used to excuse and look past vile acts. If your "culture" promotes murder and rape I don't have to like it, I don't have to shut up about it, I don't have to look the other way and I'm sure as fuck gonna hate on it.
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With Islam there is no distinction between culture or religion. Islam is their culture. That is what many in the West cannot understand, Islam is an complete set of political and cultural commands wrapped up in a religion. It literally tells people how to live their lives almost every waking moment of the day.
What we are seeing in Europe now is true Islam.
Those Muslims who live in the West and do not act like this are viewed as apostates by those who do. The fundamentalist Muslim is the driver of all that happens in Islam, and the beliefs they hold are mainstream Islamic thought. Why? Because the way they act is the way Muhammad acted, and in Islam Muhammad is considered the perfect being, to be copied in all respects. Islam is, and always has been, a cancer on all of humanity, right from he start.
It is fundamentally incapable of playing nice with others, as it's 1400 year history lays bare for all to see, and is at it's core fundamentally incompatible with Western ideals and concepts.
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We hit all the points here. KiAers welcome being called Islamophobes, they lump all Muslims with all extremists, they insist religion is indistinguishable from culture (yet in the same breath they will all shout, “Can’t be racist against Muslims, not a race bro!”), they repeat /r/European talking points about Muslim refugees in Europe, and they talk a big game about “Western culture.” If we were playing Islamophobia bingo, I would’ve filled up three cards by now.
They are other examples where they just come out and say exactly what they mean.
Islam is like anything else.
If you want to destroy it infect it with feminism.[+42]
In fairness, Islam is the only thing that needs feminism anymore [+64]
Islam needs to disappear from the planet. All muslims are extremists because Islam is extremist.
PS: I am a "muslim". [+6]
Yet again: “Kill all the Muslims” from KiA. Oh, and add in a dash of, “the only thing” when it comes to feminism. You heard it from KiA: sexism only exists in the Muslim world!
But the real crowning achievement of KiA? That would be when they took advantage of the Paris attacks to Photoshop an image of a journalist who is critical of GG and give him a suicide vest and a Quran.
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KiA mods were quick to remove all mention of how the plan to Photoshop the image originated on KiA itself.
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It’s about ethics in censorship until you have to CYA, I guess. At this point though, KiA is indistinguishable from /r/the_donald when it comes to any issue that deals with police brutality against African Americans or any discussion about Islam.
Bonus: It’s about ethics in pedophilia and defending rapists
As I have demonstrated the clear parallel between KiA and 8chan, it also shouldn’t come to anyone’s surprise that KiAers are also ardent defenders of child pornography.
right now there is a thread on 8chan /b/ called "Official Pedo Thread" with pics of clothed little girls, sorry but that is fucking creepy and should be shut down.
Are you making the jump of "this is creepy, therefore it should be shut down" or is there more to your reasoning?
Surely,
if it's not illegal and only in poor taste,
it's up to the moderators (and the admins beyond that) whether or not it gets to stay on the site.
I don't want to look at it either, but it's not my website and
not my place to say, legally or morally, whether or not it should be there.
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Ah yes, the ever-famous “free speech” that is the rallying call of bigots in America. I have a headline for you though—child pornography isn’t “free speech” you pedo-lovers, it’s an actual crime.
If that isn’t nauseating enough, KiA couldn’t help themselves after a card player from Magic: The Gathering was banned from playing at any official tournaments after it was revealed that he is an actual convicted rapist. They start this one out by making him out as an innocent wittle white man with the thread title:
“Remember the Magic: the Gathering player who was witchhunted for being a sex offender?”
What they really meant was, “Remember the convicted rapist who got outed as a convicted rapist?”
Was he a sex offender?
[+29]
Here [+11, archived post of the rapist trying to justify what he did and then expressing zero remorse]
So he
made a mistake
as a teenager and then paid for it, and worked hard to better himself. Once again, outrage culture strikes again. [+28]
Ah yes, “made a mistake.” Oops, he forced his penis into a woman on accident! And then they have the gall to call this “outrage culture.” You’re literally defending a remorseless rapist. Let’s see how KiA reacts when someone tells them just that.
you guys are defending a rapist. he buttfucked a drunk girl against her will.
the celebrity worship on this subreddit is disgusting. just because a pro MtG the player has criticized their decision doesn't mean it's okay.
for a sub that's meant to think critically and objectively we have a lot of work until we get there [-38]
An ex-convict who took a plea bargain that was OFFERED BY THE VICTIM, played it out in full, and then took on even more extra legal and court baggage to be exonerated by the governor to allow him back his voting rights, who has not seen legal trouble since.
This isn't some black late teen with three hundred armed robbery counts getting shot by a cop and then Twitter crying a river over how an innocent with only a few aggravated assaults while on parole
could be treated so poorly. This is someone who did a crime, did the time THAT WAS SUGGESTED BY THE VICTIM, then did extra time to be allowed to vote again, and never redid any criminal actions.
Either say your thoughts directly: "All criminals should be put to death", or let it go because that is what you're advocating: Never forgive, never forget, don't even let them play CARDS for hell's sake, let alone find employment, I'm sure you'd take issue with that too, an ex-con making money to live on, how awful. They should be slowly starved to death, or maybe tortured to death, right edgelord M'Jawn?
I believe in rehabilitation.
This man seems rehabilitated
after his punishment AS SET FORTH BY THE VICTIM, and his later efforts, and believe that, yes, even an ex-convict should be allowed to play cards.
Yeesh, you far-right authoritarians are all the same. You know we abolished hanging and cutting off right hands, too, right?
[+24]
So first he starts with some old-fashioned KiA racism (“This wasn’t some black kid, it was someone we care about—a white man!”), and then goes straight into full-on rape apologia. But remember: gaming culture doesn’t promote rape culture, apparently. Well, except when it does, like in this case.
Conclusion
They targeted gamers.
Gamers.
We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.
We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.
We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.
Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.
Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?
These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods.
Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.
Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first;
this is just another boss fight.
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Yep, it’s a hate sub. There’s no getting past that issue, KiA is just the Reddit office for 8chan’s /gamergatehq/. Everything was born out of a misogynist movement built upon propaganda (they went nuts with creating their ideal woman mascot and then they immediately sexualized her because their penises are their diving rods) and lies. And the lies were spread by a spurned ex. All of which was ripe for the movement because they had already been hating women in the video game industry for years ever since Sarkeesian had the sheer audacity to speak up.
There is no argument here. Not only is Gamergate a hate movement, but KiA is a hate sub. And that’s just something they don’t get. There’s no arguing whether a sexist movement is sexist or not—it is sexist, point-in-fact.
Your heroes realize this, which is why you don’t have anything but fringe support in the video game industry, and you’ve since replaced those heroes with
neocons.
“But we’re totally leftist!” Being barely left of Bill O’Reilly doesn’t make you a leftist.
So move the goal posts, write your point-by-point rebuttal, or whatever mental gymnastics you can come up with to justify your bigotry—you’re a hate sub. And like other bigots on this planet, you are too chicken-shit to fess up to being what you really are—scared little boys afraid of women and other minorities taking away your toys forcing you to come out of the fantasy world and into the real one.