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[–]abdadaHARD CORE RED 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

The anti-marriage trolls definitely are in the majority in the red pill sphere of influence, but one can also say that 80% of red pillers are in permanent anger stage. I think those two groups align well together.

I was married, I was divorce raped, I am still not anti-marriage. I am against unpreparedness. I am against marriage theater. I'm again marriage aligning with a woman's frame and fantasy world.

I post under my real name because I give zero fucks about what anyone else thinks of my opinions. My LTRs know I'm red pill and they can go age themselves into the Wall for all I ever cared. My life is about me, and if anyone wants to align themselves with my future they best live in my frame or they can go date Omega Joe whose sole purpose in life is to win more gold at some online video game.

My clients know I'm red pill, so what? I work with top tier males in a highly competitive market and they're all subconsciously or consciously red pill as well. They lift weights, they race cars, they go hunting, they ignore their wives' fantasy frames when it comes to leading the household as a secondary goal that is derived from them leading their own lives first.

Rather than using the term "masculine" I actually much prefer the usage of "red-blooded" (no relation to red pill).

Red-Blooded: adjective, (of a man) vigorous or virile, especially in having strong heterosexual appetites.

Aligns better with my view of the world and how I align with it. I have appetites that are heterosexual in nature and I am vigorous (and virile) in how I act and behave towards my own selfish goals.

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not sure how you're at -2 for this comment. The Internet is weird.

[–]abdadaHARD CORE RED 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Think of all the dudes in anger mode on any RP sub and remember that most have no clue what the voting buttons actually mean.

Lots of schlubs use the downvote as their own way to disagree since they can barely put 5 words together as a response.

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I post under my real name because I give zero fucks about what anyone else thinks of my opinions.

I use the pen name out of respect for my wife. I don't want people knowing she is into BDSM type shit or that her husband is doing this or that to her. Her job puts her in daily interaction with parents and the school system, shit could get awkward and she asked me to keep that privacy so I agreed.

But if she were to say fuck it - I'd fucking follow the same path your walking as I don't care that I feel and live this way at all, there is no shame in a man owning his shit.

Aligns better with my view of the world and how I align with it. I have appetites that are heterosexual in nature and I am vigorous (and virile) in how I act and behave towards my own selfish goals.

I like this, it's a good description and Red-Blooded sounds tough no matter what so it's a win.

[–]abdadaHARD CORE RED 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I respect protecting one's family from social gossip. My current LTR had to deal with a lot of muckery in her own family and peer group and even at work, but after a few years of staying in my frame she realized how awesome her relationship is and how horrifying everyone else's is. I told her early on "stop paying attention to their hurtful words and start watching for how much pain they all deal with over time."

Most of the worst gossipers are in terrible relationships that they have no hope of exiting because of their own low SMV.

As for Red-Blooded, it's not really colloquial any more. If you look at some of the literary debates on word usage, the term fell out of favor because (not kidding you) it is too "heteronormative" and displaces men who are more effeminate in nature.

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

it is too "heteronormative" and displaces men who are more effeminate in nature.

I wish you were kidding

[–]abdadaHARD CORE RED 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just google red-blooded heteronormative to see some of the literary discussions about the term. It's pretty hilarious stuff.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There's a nuance to it, and TBH, I'm getting tired of seeing the same issues rehashed every time TFA says he loves being Leave it to beaver.

RP doesn't say anything about being anti marriage... It's anti marriage as it is codified in law, and it's enforcement today

You'll get an angry newer, younger guy, who will shout fuck marriage... If you can put away that bias when listening to a more seasoned anti marriage type, you'll hear them guiding it towards new institutions.

/u/BluepillProfessor talks about why specifically it's a bad deal for guys. /u/redpillschool for the most part agrees with this.

So the talk among anti-marriage law types centers around alternate institutions. I mean, if back in the day all you had to do was wrap a piece of linen around your hands, get a priest to say some latin words, and it was done... Surely the modern world can develop something that sheds that archaic system...

I mean, we don't leech people when they get sick anymore, right?

Personally, I like getting to the heart of the matter. Families, life long commitment... There's a natural drive for guys to want these things. There is no reason that a marriage license has to be the only way to achieve your goals. In my post about mental models, it follows the same logic. You don't want to get married, you want a lifelong first office (to your captain) and a family, or some other goal...

So instead of the argument being pro or anti marriage, it could be about the strategy to meet that guys goal with as low a risk as possible. Like you said.

Preparation. If it turns out there's some magical legal documentation that makes it work and is enforced (which is 99% no) great. If it's just simple co habitation, or in my case, common law? Even better.

But buying a ring and going down to city hall clearly isn't in your best interests.

[–]over60_stupid_lonerRP S.O.B. 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

TFA, your explanation of recent events is very helpful to me. Thanks for providing this context.

TRP is about what works for me. What others get will be different, and this is as it should be. We agree that the idea of a narrow "Red Pill party line" is ridiculous on it's face.

We absolutely agree that men come here to be better men. That path will be a little different for each of us. The trolling (and brigading) of others is just background noise that can be easily ignored if it is identified. Thanks.

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

What we all need to focus on is what works and how best to apply our learnings to our 'real' lives.

The banter back and forth takes time and energy from posts being put out to guys who need that information and assistance to go from theory to application.

[–]over60_stupid_lonerRP S.O.B. 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

The banter back and forth takes time and energy from posts being put out to guys who need that information and assistance to go from theory to application.

You mean the exchanges with trolls?

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes, they are a time sink.

Similar to my wasted attempts to make progress with the people on TBP.

I won't be doing that anymore.

[–]over60_stupid_lonerRP S.O.B. 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

they are a time sink.

YES. OH..MY…YES…WASTED…..TIME……BLACKHOLE BLUEHOLE.

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

bluehole

Better than brownhole?

[–]over60_stupid_lonerRP S.O.B. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, much better.

BLUEHOLE for TBP

BROWNHOLE for RPS thought trolling.

[–]red_blue_and_hot 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok, so I refrained from wading into this bullshit before, but fuck it.

RPS's position is that marriage is always a bad deal for men. TFA writes that if he were to do it again, he'd still get married to his wife. Whoop-de-fucking-do! If a cow had balls, she'd be a bull. If your mom didn't fuck all those guys, she wouldn't be a whore. Who gives a fuck?!

The fact remains that if you are visiting MRP, you are very likely already married. Maybe you were always blue pill, maybe you were alpha before and then turned into a drunk captain, maybe you married a BPD piece of work, whatever.

As a selfish asshole who is already married for whatever reason -- one who doesn't own a time machine -- my question is after you get done creating drama like a pair of high school girls, how does all this shit help me get an unsolicited blowjob from my wife?

[–]BluepillProfessorMarried-MRP MODERATOR 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

What the fuck BPP? Neither of these gentlemen (or 1 dude) contribute to MRP.

They (he) made you and me think and forced you to write this exceptional post.

I am confident that MRP is now seeing a new wave of trolls- but this time they are "Red Pill Trolls."

Do you have any idea how we should deal with them? I don't think getting ban happy is the right solution.

I will continue to post, respond, and blog and I look forward to the growth of this sub

Yah!!! We (at least I) will continue to consult you when appropriate for your thoughts on mod decisions and whenever I feel the need for some positive masculinity.

[–]Sepean 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they voice their opinion and discuss the subject in relevant threads, that is fine. If they begin concern trolling all over the place, ban them.

The main problem with these guys is that their oremise is that marriage can't be good. These guys don't have the SMV or frame to pull it off, so they set a low bar. That's a bad example for the unplugging guys, but at least it seems that they don't engage much in actually helping anyone. It is mostly anger phase venting.

[–]TheFamilyAlphaPro-Masculine Evangelist[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No ban, that's gay for guys like RPS & AA as they are trolls but at least they are manly trolls.

I just want it recognized that they are nothing more than what you described - redpill trolls who need to provide content aside from DownWithMarriage

[–]over60_stupid_lonerRP S.O.B. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Give them a flair: "Anti-Marriage Thought Police"

In fact start (negative) flaring anyone with a time wasting agenda…..

Edit: use Bold Purple Italic Print

[–]cj_aubreyMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

All creation arises from movement and all movement arises from conflict. I appreciate those (TFA, RPS...) who fight, and in conflict, create something here which helps me and hopefully countless other men. Conflict is our path and there is something clean and pure about men embracing it.

[–]LeftShark86 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Don't sweat the comments. Getting into an argument with these mods is pointless. These guys are, for the most part, stuck up their collective ass jerking each other off. I appreciated your post. Keep 'em coming. It's valuable information.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Communcators... you can talk about us, you can't talk without us.

I remember stokers calling me flag fag all the time, meanwhile they are repairing the water rods on a friday mids watch while I'm out enjoying San diegos train to T town.

Though you guys did get to get drunk every 3rd day at sea, and laugh at us going onto our 1:2 watches while you enjoyed your extended off watches...

I guess it's a wash.

By the way, the ocean is blue, and I laugh every time you have to give the engine report, since you don't have your night vision and have to mr magoo your way across the bridge.