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[–]19Dan81Tempo 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

You'll get over it.

[–]chickensoup1Beckham 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

You don't like Mourinho, no one really gives a fuck.

[–]shadowbanned32 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think that's a good attitude to take here. No one cares because you want a constant circle jerk about how amazing Mourinho is going to be?

I actually disagree with many of his points and think Mourinho is a good move for us assuming we spend the kind of money we need to spend on the right players....

But why shouldn't discussions be had with someone who doesn't like Mourinho if they put forth valid reasons for them to hold their opinions. That's the perfect time for discussion; when someone has different opinions and reasons for those opinions. I really hate that your comment is so upvoted because it just shows that this sub allows emotions such as excitement for a world class manager to feed into the circle jerk

[–]OnettNessSchweinsteiger 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'd rather have an asshole that restores us to our rightful place at the top of the table managing the team than a classy guy that keeps up fighting for fourth.

[–]the_trainmanRooney -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Noone wants a classy guy - LVG acted in a very classy way but he is equal parts asshole and classy. The point he is trying to make is that there are assholes and there are Assholes - Mourinho is the second one.

SAF was a class A asshole, but there was a certain line that he never crossed. What u/theatreofdreams21 is saying is that Mourinho's success with United will come at the cost of United's ethos

[–]theatreofdreams21[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Bingo

[–]OnettNessSchweinsteiger 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'll double down and say I'd rather be wildly successful as a club and hated by everyone else as opposed to praying for a CL berth year in and year out but being respected/admired.

An ethos is a great thing to build off of when that ethos works. We've got one trophy since SAF left. What was reality under SAF isn't coming back. Embrace change.

[–]TudoorsYoung -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

One trophy in 3 years isn't too bad. Seeing as Moyes' year was quite frankly empty. Nothing happened, we didn't change anything, he tried to just, be Fergie.

We need to embrace change but we need to strive for longevity. If we're never looking for another Alex Ferguson we're never going to find him.

We can take advantage of Mourinho or we can not. If we fix everything behind the scenes, appoint the DOF for when Mourinho fails, that would be perfect, but that won't happen.

If Mourinho finds success he is just delaying the problem which we have in the Glazers.

[–]theatreofdreams21[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a balance to be struck, like with everything in life. Mourinho is a firework that briefly shines bright and then blows up.

It's redundant to bring LvG in to lay the groundwork only to succeed him with a manager whose philosophy is in direct opposition to the ground work that was put down.

If people think LvG isn't the man for the job, then I can understand that. Change can be good, but patience is essential. There are other options that would more than likely be better for the long term success and identity of the club. We can't sacrifice who we are so willingly.

[–]redmustang04Giggs 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's very good at playing mind games like Sir Alex did.

[–]FaceOfAnAngel 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you want to make an omelette, you have to break a few eggs. Just make sure you get those eggs in Waitrose

[–]mu_37Schneiderlin 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

what's the point of this? i can make a similar,much longer thread about SAF.while Moyes,on the other hand,has been nothing but respectful and humble in his time with us.if you want classy managers you're watching the wrong sport.

[–]glintingsKing Eric -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

i can make a similar,much longer thread about SAF

I'd love to see it, please also highlight similar cases where SAF calls a member of the club's staff a son of a bitch just for doing their job.

EDIT: Downvotes? Really? The pro-Mourinho downvote brigage on this sub is pretty sickening.

[–]the_trainmanRooney -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't bother my friend - folks are high on the FA cup win and Mourinho's news. Anything remotely anti-Mourinho is going to be shredded to pieces

[–]jbiresqHerrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was manager for the first time in 2000 but, before that, I was assistant in big clubs and with big managers and coaching the best players in the world, so I was 30 and I was coaching Ronaldo, not this one [Cristiano], the real one, the Brazilian Ronaldo.

What is even remotely offensive about that? Don't people in Portugal call him Cristiano anyway?

[–]thebigguysheamus 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

You sound like a fun guy

[–]fakeplasticairbag 8ポイント9ポイント  (13子コメント)

You /u/black_squire and /u/Tudors and all the other LVG fanboy wankers can all go fuck yourselves.

Some of you seem to love finishing 5th

[–]the_trainmanRooney -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

There are no LVG fanboys or Mourinho fanboys - there are just patient and impatient people. Folks want Mourinho not because he's a great coach (which is is) or he's a great manager (which he isn't), only because they feel he will guarantee instant success. THAT is what folks want. Absolutely NOONE has ever said that they want LVG to be our manager for the next 10/15/20 years, but what people seem to be scared of is if we don't win a title NOW, we'll become another Liverpool or Arsenal - and for some reason, they feel the only way to achieve that, is with Mourinho. Not winning titles while building for tomorrow isn't something to be ashamed of - Real won twice in 9 years preceding 2007, Bayern won twice in 6 years before Jupp Heynckes won the treble.

Noone, loves not winning titles or finishing 5th - If you think LVG or anyone at United felt that, you're deluded. I HATE Mourinho with a passion and don't want him anywhere near our club. But as u/19Dan81 mentioned, I'll get over it - just like I got over Moyes being hired.

[–]mgoblue5472Herrera 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mourinho isn't a great manager? You can't be serious

[–]the_trainmanRooney -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am serious - he's a fantastic coach but not a great manager, no. He is great at the tactical aspects, scouting the opposition and reading the game but at the core Management aspects like people management, diplomacy, media relations, he isn't very good.

Also, Go Blue! :)

[–]mgoblue5472Herrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I gotcha, and yup go blue

[–]fakeplasticairbag -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't care about debating LVG anymore, that idiot is gone and not before time.

I'll just enjoy this doubly happy day

[–]the_trainmanRooney -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

hmm.. I am at a loss for words.

[–]czarofbizareHerrera -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't hate LVG but I Hate Mou. What about you fucking Mou fuckboys? You all just completely sucked the rumour field dick. A pornstar couldn't suck harder and swallow more than you pricks. You all were bashers the whole season. Lvg won a trophy in two years. You all are just impatient fucking kids. It took years for SAF to build a dynasty. So take your 15 minute culture somewhere else. That is what made Liverpool shit for so long.

[–]fakeplasticairbag -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm in my 30s from Manchester

Don't like it feel free to fuck off anytime.

All my red friends are delighted he's gone

[–]TudoorsYoung -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Pathetic. You have nothing better to do than to start a wild goose chase.

When speaking about Van Gaal I only speak about facts. If you don't like the facts, you don't have to respond.

[–]fakeplasticairbag 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Don't care about debating LVG anymore. The useless dinosaur is finally gone. Feel free to go with him

[–]TudoorsYoung -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

You have this hilarious delusion that I and every other person here who advocates for Van Gaal loves him and that we would do anything for him to stay.

Now, I can't speak for anyone, but I wouldn't give two shits if it was Van Gaal, Mourinho, Klopp, Guardiola or even Ferguson in this situation. My problem is people blindly spouting the wrong information about Van Gaal or the manager in this situation and blindly taking it out of context.

Van Gaal is frankly a self inflated pompous human being, like every single manager in the modern game. But I'm sick and tired of hearing about how this man is the bane of United, how he is the problem with this team, and how he's spent 133 million pounds net and done fractionally better than Moyes. How we have the shittiest attack yet the best defense in the league. Whatever, who cares.

Moyes and Van Gaal had the same exact net spend per year, let that sink in.

I am not like some people here to make my entire judgment about a man after one failed season. Players like Depay who are written off, Lingard is only average now, Jones is done, you name it. My view on football generally lasts longer than a calendar season. We only need to fix the attack, that's it. We need to figure out some attacking chemistry and we'd challenge for the league. If we had one 20 point a season striker, we'd have beaten Leicester, that's also a fact.

Sitting here blaming Van Gaal for everything that is wrong with this team while trying to devalue every single thing he's done for this club is frustrating. 3 years from now we will have the best attacking talent in the league. We'll have a great defense in Darmian Smalling Shaw and whoever the last center half will be. Granted, the midfield has not been fixed, but I have faith Schneiderlin can emulate Carrick, then we need to find one more class talent.

This team will benefit for years on the fruits of Van Gaal's labor, and that is grossly misinterpreted on this community. 3 years from now, we'll be in a better place, I don't know if I'll say the same thing post Mourinho, but I can hope.

My problem is solely with the Glazers at this point, and their utterly laughable managing of this club. Van Gaal is not as much to blame as the Glazers at all. We should be spending our hundreds of millions rather than them ending up in investors pockets.

[–]fakeplasticairbag -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Blah blah blah nothing is ever LVG's fault right?

I don't care about LVG. That useless arrogant cunt is out on his arse.

I have zero love for the Glazers either.

[–]TudoorsYoung -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Blah blah blah nothing is ever LVG's fault right?

Our lack of attacking cohesion this season is. Our mental fragility is. That is it.

That useless arrogant cunt is out on his arse.

For a useless cunt he'll be sitting on his millions while you're sitting here trying to prove holier than me on this sub. You are no better than me, you're just as much of a lowlife.

[–]reddevlon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not many on this sub will get what you are trying to say..I agree with you..but right now people are more focused on the Mou appointment rather than celebrating our 1st trophy in 3 years !!

[–]PerksofthesewallsHerrera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not something you should be posting in this sub. Those not a fan of Mourinho are in a real minority and aren't given much room to talk.

[–]Dan_AshcroftDavid May 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Saying Mourinho isn't classy...But you prefer Simeone?