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[–]Adderallabuse -3ポイント-2ポイント  (22子コメント)

No, thats not right. Im not him

[–]SOAADDICT 6ポイント7ポイント  (21子コメント)

K.

You're just an account that got TRP endorsed the day it was created, and has mainly run around whining about TFA being happy in his marriage since you can't have the same. You add nothing to this sub but concern trolling, that no one wants.

You are identical to fat bitches who go onto fitness forums and accuse all the tight little chicks of "shaming you" and exercising "thin privilege" when they talk about how they got their perky, fuckable asses. Instead of humbling yourself and paying attention to the advice someone who has something you don't offers, you just try to silence them because their happiness is "bad for society" and by society you mean your ego.

[–]redpillschoolTRP MODERATOR -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're just an account that got TRP endorsed the day it was created.

Our mod team is on record that we will move an endorsed flair from an old account to a new one if there was a shadowbanned account or potential doxxing. The TRP mod team is well aware who addarall is.

I am quite public with my views on this sub, I'd never need to hide it behind an alt.

[–]Adderallabuse -3ポイント-2ポイント  (19子コメント)

I posted in this thread because OP incorrectly said TRP frowns upon monogamy. You would know better then me but I don't think I've written anything here in a month..

Back to monogamy, Its a viable sexual strategy, but the marriage piece is wrong.

And if you think this is concern trolling then report it and surely if you are correct I'll be banned

[–]SOAADDICT 6ポイント7ポイント  (18子コメント)

You would know better then me but I don't think I've written anything here in a month..

You just admitted you only come over here to call out TFA when he doesn't rebuke marriage quite strongly enough for you. You're not a part of this community, you just want to skew the voices of actual participants to suit your cause.

How could that possibly not be concern trolling?

[–]Adderallabuse -2ポイント-1ポイント  (16子コメント)

I am invested in TRP. This sub wrongly uses red pill as part of its name and uses all it's jargon. And OP incorrectly stated that monogamy isn't a sexual strategy that TRP approves

I've been debating OP on this topic for a long time. He may be wrong but never acted childish and threw out accusations like you.

Does he even want you white knighting? He doesn't seem to need it

[–]SorcererKingMRP SAGE - MRP MODERATOR 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

This sub wrongly uses red pill as part of its name [...]

Neither the term nor the related ideas belong to you. There is no Grand Pubah of Red Pill who gets to say what is official.

I'm going to take a crack at understanding what the Big Objection really is here.

I suspect that the problem is that by suggesting that the guys who get divorced are weaksauce fucks, this implies that marriage can work out so long as guys are not weaksauce fucks, and you disagree with that implication. It seems then that you, /u/redpillschool, et al. on TRP believe that marriage works out for guys so infrequently that it warrants complete and total condemnation everywhere and always, and that anything less is an endorsement of it. Thus TFA saying he avoids telling people whether or not they should get married, and that he deals with 'what is' with people so long as they own it is an evasion of the opportunity to appropriately condemn marriage, and thus is equivalent to an implicit endorsement of marriage.

In this particular thread you seem to be intent on distinguishing between monogamy and marriage, both for the purpose of being highly pedantic and for correcting TFA's somewhat (intellectually) lazy use of the two terms as interchangeable. This all in turn seems to be for the purpose of pointing out that monogamy may be a valid pursuit, but, once again, marriage never is.

Do I have this right?

[–]Adderallabuse -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Pretty much correct.

If you go back to the origins of MRP it was TRP members who wanted more LTR oriented discussion. That initial group constantly posted the sub's address in TRP for awareness. Used its vocabulary and theories and began a shift where women were allowed to comment and slowly but surely (like Athols group) the message got muddled and marriage was espoused as a viable strategy.

[–]SorcererKingMRP SAGE - MRP MODERATOR 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I will leave origin stories to /u/isolos.

While it is true that women are not explicitly prohibited from posting here, they seldom do since we do not pull punches on them and their feelz rarely can handle it. They certainly do not get equal weighting on their opinions and most often turn into targets for us all to reassert AWALT.

As for guys who still think marriage is a good idea... we can't control what people think, and don't try to. As we've made clear before most of our mods and ECs agree with the TRP stance on marriage and we are vocal in saying so when the topic comes MRP Pro-marriage sentiment is drowned out, not censored.

Look, I get where TRP is coming from. If one has what one thinks is the truth, then why not take a hard line, right? The reality is that for guys caught in marriage, the stakes can be high. We recognize this and try to empower guys to be brave, pursue their values, and most importantly, to own their parts in both the problem and the solution. Trying to make guys into reddit puppets may alleviate their situation, but it won't solve their problems.

Our MRP crowd is, on average, older and more accomplished than the TRP crowd. If we lectured to a 15-year married physician on MRP the same way one might to a single guy under 30, they would likely get insulted, get defensive, and miss the message. This place would then be a ghost town. As a result a different culture of engagement has emerged, but the core ideas remain the same.

If TRP mods still take issue with us fur not being ideologically pure enough, then I can only conclude that they have ulterior motives, since there is ample evidence that we help guys unfuck themselves all the time. In other words, our methods here don't look exactly like those at TRP, but they work. And isn't that really what The Red Pill is supposed to be about: learn the truth, do what works?

[–]redpillschoolTRP MODERATOR 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

And isn't that really what The Red Pill is supposed to be about: learn the truth, do what works?

Part of learning the truth is embracing is and rejecting comfortable lies. Something this sub has a poor track record of, though admittedly TFA's move here was actually a step in the right direction.

I can only conclude that they have ulterior motives

My motives are to protect the community from a society that constantly attempts to temper and modify our tone and message. With TBP or Feminists, this line is easily drawn. With groups like this, full of both people I respect and people I have no respect for (who have openly admitted they dislike TRP and what it stands for), it's difficult to give it a pass or an endorsement (sidebar) when I can't easily tell if the tone or message is getting watered down.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The one thing that you'll see here. Acta non verba. If you follow the men here for appreciable levels of time... The foundations are clear and rp. These higher level discussions are that top 1% of theory, and largely fall into "you do you"

Listening to the chest beating often leaves a bad impression, assuming that the goal is the process, and not the mission.

[–]redpillschoolTRP MODERATOR -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

believe that marriage works out for guys so infrequently that it warrants complete and total condemnation everywhere and always, and that anything less is an endorsement of it.

Slight correction: We believe there's zero benefit for men in marriage, so the overwhelming amount of downsides have no payoff.

[–]SOAADDICT 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I am invested in TRP.

Right. So you're coming from outside this community to try to control our discussion so it suits your liking.

Your feminist goal is to convince young men they should be satisfied to let dead eyed sluts with no ability to pair bond use their dicks as dildos, then have single moms raise their kids from the cradle right into prison.

Some of us have made marriage work, and are happy about that. We're happy to fuck an adoring wife a few times a day, and see our kids thrive in a stable family environment. We were able to make it work. Sorry you couldn't. Not our problem unless you want to quit whining about it and actually try to improve.

[–]Adderallabuse -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yoiu got me. I'm a feminist

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Theres maybe 4 guys that you're describing. 4 out of almost 10k

1 of them in this thread flat out admits he's not RP, so lets not judge a dojo by it's window shoppers

[–]irateMDMRP APPROVED 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

All this "not all MRP are like that" is weak.
 
Why do you suck up to Adderallabuse? He's obviously a sock for an old TRP EC, maybe Cad, but why care what he thinks? He's steeped in the victim mentality and has not offered a single useful comment in any of his MRP responses. "Uhh, kids, marriage is bad, mmmkay..." That's the opinion of most of MRP and adds nothing to the discussion. He's obviously accustomed to dealing with teen TeRPers who want to share their feeelings about how hard it is to be a man. He'd be happier there. Just let him go back.
 
Edit: missing words

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

What would you prefer I said?

[–]irateMDMRP APPROVED 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can say whatever you want - he's your pal. It's just fucking weird to see you qualifying the sub to a guy who has more to learn from your posts than you have from his.

[–]stonepimpletilistsHARD CORE NAVY RED 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Without a common frame of reference, we are all just talking past each other.

My tone assumes a good faith discussion. It will change when I see reason to believe otherwise. I'm sure it will be obvious when I do

[–]Adderallabuse 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He prefers something that he agrees with