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Misleading: Claims on music, not gameplayNintendo issues copyright claims on Mario-themed Minecraft videos (arstechnica.com)

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[–]ThePokemonMaster123 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Bit of misinformation in the title here.

The Super Mario Mash-Up pack is coming to Minecraft (basically, some Mario stuff in Minecraft) that has Super Mario 64 music in it. It's the music that's setting off copyright claims, which are most likely automatic and not manual claims (there's a difference between content ID claim and copyright strike for youtube).

4J is already looking into fixing the issue. It's easy to just read the title here and think that Nintendo is manually taking down Minecraft videos, but that's not really the case here.

[–]snesmaster40 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Music setting off a claim makes sense. A streamer made a highlight video for a ARMA3 stream and it had Star Fox SNES music. This was done ages ago. This video was suddenly claimed for Star Fox Zero content a few weeks ago.

[–]Cornzilla95 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

According to 4J Studios, the developers of the port, Nintendo told them that copyright strikes wouldn't happen, and they're looking to fix the issue. Along with that, they said that Nintendo is looking to resolve and investigate as well.

[–]romple [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

To its credit, Mario Mash-Up Pack developer 4J Studios responded quickly, saying on Twitter that "we're hearing reports of copyright strikes on Super Mario Mash-Up videos. We were assured this wouldn't happen. Following up with Nintendo." In responses to other users, the developer said that "Nintendo are going to investigate and resolve" these copyright issues.

So either someone at Nintendo didn't get the memo or it's some auto-copyright-violation system that just found their music on youtube and did its thing.

[–]el_chupacupcake [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

Oh man, do we forget that Nintendo hired a guy years ago to go through the internet and look for R34 porn?

Or that they sent a C&D notice to Suicide Girls when they said in an interview that they like Nintendo games? (They didn't use a logo or footage, just that "Nintendo" was in print)

Nintendo does not understand the internet and sometimes has really bad ideas about what it should be.

[–]ChubblesTheGoat [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Oh no, they get internet. Nintendo knows it can abuse copyright law as much as they want and still make millions every year.

[–]M1styczny [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

But the point is that they loose money now.

[–]Fallens1 [スコア非表示]  (31子コメント)

I can't believe this is a thing. They literally refuse to learn over the past few years this bullshit has been going on. Don't understand how Nintendo gets so much praise these days.

[–]mmouchi [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

It's most likely a fault in an automatic system. I highly doubt someone at Nintendo is sitting around manually marking content from a collaboration their own company is a part of.

[–]Fallens1 [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

If it was a "fault" in an automatic system they would have checked it within 2 years of this shit happening. Nintendo even actively takes revenue from people who make Nintendo youtube content dude I can't think of any other game publisher that does this. THEY ARE manually doing this.

[–]King_Dheginsea [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The issue appears to stem from the game's use of Super Mario 64 music, which is actually included as part of the Mash-Up Pack but still triggers a copyright match with the original Nintendo 64 game.

Literally word for word from the article. It's obviously a fault of the automatic system, something that YOUTUBE manages, NOT Nintendo.

[–]literal_reply_guy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh, the article and content contradicts the angry response you posted? Better use CAPS because then facts can be whatever you want them to be!

It's music related, it's likely been caught in the automated filter, Nintendo are actively resolving the issues. That's it.

[–]RobPlaysThatGame [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Nintendo even actively takes revenue from people who make Nintendo youtube content dude I can't think of any other game publisher that does this.

Telltale, Remedy, Quantic Dream to name a few. Nintendo may be a part of the minority, but they're certainly not alone in being anti-Let's Play.

THEY ARE manually doing this.

You're confusing the overall decision to claim their IP on YouTube, and this specific instance. No, they did not manually claim these Minecraft videos. That's the content ID system at work. Yes, they manually decided years ago what their stance is on their copyrights on YouTube.

[–]Fallens1 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Regardless they are allowing this automatic system to exist despite these issues existing for years. They've shown no interest in changing or fixing things. They may as well be manually bringing down videos since they are aware of the fuck ups that this terrible system has.

but they're certainly not alone in being anti-Let's Play.

I never said they were alone I said there arent any others I can think of. Clear difference. So don't put words in my mouth.

also remedy and quantic dream are not game publishers, They are developers.

You're confusing the overall decision to claim their IP on YouTube

I didn't confuse them at all. I said "Nintendo even actively' that phrase means that this is something else that they do already. So I was adding that onto the topic that we are currently discussing to prove that they manually take money from youtubers and when i say "they are manually doing this" I was reffering to their youtube policy. You didn't understand what i said at all.

[–]RobPlaysThatGame [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Regardless they are allowing this automatic system to exist despite these issues existing for years.

Because for every instance you see on Reddit or Twitter of the system accidentally pulling down a video it shouldn't, there are about 100 instances you don't hear about where the system works fine.

Content ID sure isn't perfect, but these issues are a blip in the big picture. They're just pretty loud blips since they effect people's revenue and result in articles and outrage.

Additionally, they're Nintendo, not Google. They can't "fix things". It's not their platform to fix.

They may as well be manually bringing down videos.

This makes zero sense, but I suppose since the alternative was to admit that you were wrong about them manually doing this, you had to say something, right?

I never said they were alone I said there arent any others I can think of.

And I simply pointed out a few, so relax. Nobody is putting words in your mouth.

[–]Fallens1 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

but they're certainly not alone

Why even say this if you're not trying to put words in my mouth?

this makes zero sense, but I suppose since the alternative was to admit that you were wrong about them manually doing this, you had to say something, right?

when I said "regardless" It was me implying i was wrong but that is still no excuse for it to be a problem since it's been an issue for years.

Because for every instance you see on Reddit or Twitter of the system accidentally pulling down a video it shouldn't, there are about 100 instances you don't hear about where the system works fine

you cant seriously compare reddit and twitter taking things down to youtube dude. Youtube has a 3 strike system and if you get those 3 strikes you're account is perma banned. This is a HUGE issue for freedom of expression. And people make a living of of lets plays and gaming content. Nintendo could ruins someones life with these copyright issues.

Additionally, they're Nintendo, not Google. They can't "fix things". It's not their platform to fix.

Then why do EA games rarely get copyrighted? why do sony games rarely get copyright issues? I've never seen a Valve game have copyright issues? Its nintendos way of doing things that causes these issues. Every track of music every cutscene or something appears to trigger these copy right issues. And its even doing it in games they do not own.

Nintendo is a common problem with copyright issues on youtube if you can't acknowlodge that and blame youtube/google instead I cant argue with you anymore. you're delusional.

[–]RobPlaysThatGame [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why even say this if you're not trying to put words in my mouth?

To highlight that they're not alone in their decisions. Stop being so paranoid and pedantic dude.

still no excuse for it to be a problem since it's been an issue for years.

Sure, in a perfect world where engineers can write up perfect code and algorithms. The reality is that no platform will ever be 100% perfect. False claims happen. Most of the time it's through the imperfection of the system, and in rare cases it's maliciously done on purpose.

Save your anger for the latter cases.

[–]QuietJackal [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

They still think it's 1985.

[–]literal_reply_guy [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

..or if people bother to read the information instead of assuming it from the title they'd realise it's likely automated claims based on the music used in the pack. Not Nintendo going out of their way to stop it.

Who am I kidding though, people will always assume they know what's going on without actually reading the article, make up some stupid emotional tirade about it and then people will spread it like it's fact. This is Reddit, after all.

[–]QuietJackal [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Oh I read it, and they said they were told it wouldn't happen, but here we are.

[–]literal_reply_guy [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Here we are where? That assurances were made but because it's an automated program obviously there might be hiccups? That Nintendo are working to resolve those claims?

[–]helloquain [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes, because in 1985 we had automated copyright claims on internet video websites. Why won't they get with the program and move into the future where these aren't things anymore?

[–]Fortuan [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It's certainly a problem. NoJ seems to be the root of this while NoA seems to be pretty progressive with stuff.

For instance Game Grumps haven't got taken down for any reason I remember.

[–]papatapapata [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure game grumps pays the ridiculous Nintendo fees

[–]Rebelsmark [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

It's the lawyers doing.

When you have 10 lawyers on your payroll, you want them to lookout for the company interests and be useful. So they scavenge the net to find anything that they can shutdown or sue. Got to make that paycheck worth.

[–]uhuh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Mario Mash-Up Pack developer 4J Studios responded quickly, saying on Twitter that "we're hearing reports of copyright strikes on Super Mario Mash-Up videos. We were assured this wouldn't happen. Following up with Nintendo." In responses to other users, the developer said that "Nintendo are going to investigate and resolve" these copyright issues.

Since nobody's bothering to actually read the article.