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[–]Yangoose -8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 8時間前 (31子コメント)
Honest question:
Were you actually likely to go to the house of some guy you met on craigslist for a porn audition and start drinking heavily only to then be shocked and dismayed when sex and naked pictures happened at a result?
If not, then what good did this warning do you?
[–]quinnvoMountlake Terrace 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
I posted this because I have been seeing the mods continually neuter this post, and I wanted to show that there are people who are in fact interested in hearing about this.
[–]gartho009 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 5時間前 (3子コメント)
I don't believe for a second that this is an honest question.
[–]Yangoose -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
It actually is. I was genuinely curious if this was a post from someone who actually rethought their behavior based on this post or if this whole thing is nothing but a big SJW circle jerk. Turns out it's the latter.
[–]JustusGS 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
"There's a rapist prominent in the bar scene with this MO; please be careful and let the cops know if you have any info."
"Wtf is this SJW bullshit???"
[–]Yangoose -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
"Hey guys, my buddy got robbed when he agreed to show up alone in an alley in the middle of the night in a shitty part of town to buy some stolen credit cards from a guy he found on craigslist."
WE MUST GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO STOP THIS MONSTER
[–]namesrhardtothinkofCapitol Hill 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 8時間前 (25子コメント)
Please, please, please stop literally blaming rape victims.
[–]SkepticalFaceless 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 8時間前 (6子コメント)
We shouldn't blame victims, but we should understand how these things happen.
Crime/fraud requires motivation, rationalization, and opportunity. The victim has some amount of control over the "opportunity" portion of it.
Going to some random dude's house to "make porn" and then drink enough to black out is providing the opportunity. People with better judgement wouldn't make those choices.
That said, this perv asshole still has the motivation and rationalization. That's on him.
But it doesn't mean you have to help.
[–]ryan_goslings_smile 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Again, dude allegedly had a system: fake company name, official looking waivers, portfolio, and made his real name and likeness available to women, and allegedly many of them had friends in common with him. Not all of the women assaulted went to him to do a porn shoot but just to take nudes and others allegedly were assaulted outside of the scam as well.
Please stop talking about this if you have no idea of any facts and are just pushing gossip.
[+]namesrhardtothinkofCapitol Hill スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 7時間前 (3子コメント)
I'm not going to argue this.
[–]SkepticalFaceless -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 7時間前* (1子コメント)
Because you cant. People who don't make poor choices get raped significantly less.
And I'm not talking about walking home at night kinda rape. I'm talking about going to strange men's houses to shoot porn and drinking to black out kinda rape.
But no, keep blaming your environment instead of taking responsibility for the outcome of your own life while calling anyone who uses common sense a "victim blamer."
This world is full of sick pervy assholes that belong in jail. But that doesn't mean you have to be the victim that puts them there.
Not to mention the OP issued a warning so others could... you know, use their judgement when recognizing the situation and make different choices.
[–]ryan_goslings_smile 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 7時間前* (0子コメント)
Shut up. Seriously. The lions share of rape victims know their attacker. Rape typically doesn't happen at the hands of faceless bogeymen - it's happens at the hands of people you know and trust. This guy allegedly was striking close to home outside of the context of porn shoots as well.
Do you blame Gretchen, the nurse who was killed, for being murdered during an online date? She took all the precautions women are told to take and still ended up dead. No, you don't, because there isn't some weird shaming taboo set up around being murdered.
[–]WhatsThatNoizeDelridge -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Because he's posting a pretty reasonable outlook on the situation? K.
[–]Miss_Sangwitch 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (6子コメント)
It's not blaming victims. No one deserves to be raped regardless but people also have to take responsibility for their own safety and use caution and basic common sense. Showing up at some strange guy's house who you met online and accepting drinks from them is not common sense.
[–]ryan_goslings_smile 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 7時間前 (5子コメント)
Yet literally thousands of people do it via online dating everyday and don't get raped!! It's astonishing how it really seems up to the rapist, not the victim, right?
This narrative of "strangers will rape you" is also tiresome for the reason of most sexual assaults occurs at the hands of people we know.
[+]Miss_Sangwitch スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 7時間前 (3子コメント)
Exactly. So many better choices that could have made this safer- meet in a public place, tell a friend where you are going, go with someone, say no to alcohol.....
[–]ryan_goslings_smile -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
Since you have NO IDEA the details of the case I would suggest you keep your slut-shaming opinions to yourself.
Did you completely miss that the point of my comment is that this happens to people EVERYDAY despite every possible precaution they can take? Even despite knowing someone for years or being married to them or having a friend vet them?
Rape is the fault of the rapist. I was raped by an ex boyfriend on a warm Sunday morning in the comfort of our own bed. Should I have pointed out to him that we were dating and I was in love with him and I knew his parents and therefore he can't rape me? No, because that doesn't do shit.
[–]Miss_Sangwitch -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
What about what I'm saying is "slut shaming"? Rape is the fault of the rapist just like mugging is the fault of the mugger and murdering is the fault of the murderer BUT that does not mean that people can't go out of their way to ensure they aren't the victim of any one of these crimes. The situation you just described is nothing like the one detailed in this post by the way- that's comparing 2 things that have little in common.
[–]ryan_goslings_smile 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
The reason I brought up my own rape to make the point that rape is rape is rape. It doesn't matter how it happened. The difference between getting drunk around your friend or lover and a stranger is zilch because it's the fault of the rapist, not the victim.
[+]bignastychucky スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 7時間前 (8子コメント)
God forbid women take ownership of their actions! In this case, it's really hard to feel sorry for the victim for putting herself in this situation.
[–]namesrhardtothinkofCapitol Hill 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 7時間前 (7子コメント)
nah, i really don't think it is.
[+]bignastychucky スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 7時間前 (6子コメント)
Goes to strangers house to shoot porn, knowing nothing about the person. Voluntarily drinking to the point of blackout/unconsciousness. Rape. Is there really zero personal responsibility to be had by women in this situation? Is the guy a rapist pervert? Yup. Is it the fault of the women for putting themselves in this situation? Absolutely. As somebody mentioned below - this isn't a case of some woman being raped by an uber driver, by somebody in an alley at night, or in a date rape scenario. THIS IS A CASE OF WOMEN GOING TO DO PORN WITH A STRANGER AND DRINKING THEMSELVES INTO A STUPOR.
[–]namesrhardtothinkofCapitol Hill 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 7時間前* (5子コメント)
Having personally known several rape victims and dated a girl who had been raped, yeah I do feel bad for them.
[+]bignastychucky スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 7時間前 (4子コメント)
Alright, well plenty of people, women included, don't.
[–]namesrhardtothinkofCapitol Hill 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 7時間前 (3子コメント)
No matter the situation and circumstance, having your body violated, taken from you, and completely out of your control is a fucking traumatic experience that can take years and years to move past.
Not only women can be raped.
[–]bignastychucky 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
I can admit all of those are true, and I can admit that the man that did this is a horrible person and should be locked away (or better yet executed), but I cannot move past the fact that we as a society are moving away from any semblance of personal responsibility as time goes on.
[–]namesrhardtothinkofCapitol Hill 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
You are obviously trying to be an asshole or have never dealt with rape in your life and missed the last 25 years of rape awareness PSAs. Saying you should be "responsible for your actions" and "learn from your mistakes" after a rape are only the worst possible things you could say, and if a survivor had already been feeling guilt about what happened (which is far too common) these assertions only make these fears and torturous feelings a hundred times worse.
[–]seamonkey89 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
Not at all what's happening. But, you are crying wolf right now which leads to a either a concept called cause fatigue where people care, but ignore issues, or simple don't care anymore.
It's you who are not supporting rape victims
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