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[–]martin_haddock 118ポイント119ポイント  (17子コメント)

Not all of us are like this :)

I really appreciate whatever the modding community make for us Console Players.

I am actually happy to be finally in your debt and have the ability to have some mods! Personally just want an NCR veteran ranger outfit :D...make it now ;) just kidding.

Ignore the minority of fools my friend. Block them out and just do what you do best.

[–]ScatterbugSunday 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I apologize on behalf of them because that's terrible. I'm excited for mods but being belligerent will get everyone absolutely no where. Thank you for bringing some to console however you have to change anything, it'll be fantastic. Thanks again

[–]largePenisLover[S] 56ポイント57ポイント  (13子コメント)

They don't seem to be a minority, that's the problem we are having. Ignoring them is just not an option because the nexus and the comments under mods on bethesda.net are the only way to contact me for support questions and other legitimate comments like bug discovery. (and no, adding a contact option is NOT a good idea)

[edit]typicall, entitled console players downvoting this. No really boys I'm not giving out my home phone number. Support is via forums or comments. this is not open for discussion[/edit]

[–]Gsquad193 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

You have to understand that this is the internet so the vocal minority will always be louder than the majority. This is the first thing I've ever posted about console mods (ps4) and I don't even have a bethesda.net account. I can assure you I am very excited and will be more than happy with whatever I can get considering I loved all other bethesda games without a single mod. Please don't let the vocal minority discourage you. We will all appreciate the work

[–]anthylorrelXB1 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is pretty much what I was going to say. If course they're going to be hearing from the jerks because everyone else isn't complaining about it not coming to console.

[–]GnarlinBrando [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

While I don't think that is always true, it is probably true in this case... and that is exactly the problem.

As a community, or frankly lack there of for general console gaming, the only voices are people throwing fits. Regardless of whether other people don't, if that is all that console mods bring to the experience for the modders, don't expect them to like it.

Specially because it is literally making the platform harder to use. The spam needs to stop and since we really haven't had a problem with this kind of thing at nexus mods before, the console community is the obvious culprit. They are not going to listen to modders and forum adims. They might listen to you guys though. So stop only speaking up to defend your cohort. Show up and tell these people to chill out and actually express that appreciation before using it to dismiss a problem.

[–]EmilLyng 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

I say this as a console player: They're probably just over excited, like kids before Christmas. Once mods are out there will undoubtedly be the 'post-Christmas' anti-climax and you'll be left in peace again.

I'm not trying to condone moronic behaviour of course.

[–]lawjr3 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

And they most likely are literally little kids.

[–]HatchetToGather 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, most kids play on console, and I could see myself at 12 years old finding out mods were coming to Xbox and going

"ommmmmfffffgggg wen r ghe fukin modds comminnnnn"

Entitlement mixed with excitement is the name of the game for young gamers unfortunately.

[–]schmak01 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

All from a group of people who used to tell PC Gamers that mods are just cheating. Modding is the same as hacking. Now that they have the option, the positions changed to that of a crack addict needing a fix. The fickle nature of the ignorant peasant is constantly in flux.

[–]GnarlinBrando [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Maybe, can't find the source atm, but I've seen a bell curve showing that consoles are used mostly by kids and older folks, PC more in the middle ranges. For general gaming population that is, I think it only went up to like sixty at the top end.

[–]HitlersThong 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

And everybody will be bitching about how shitty everything is after a couple months.

[–]Quantras 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every mod I look at on Bethesda.nets mod section for PC is filled with a comments saying "pls bring to consoles" and all the Xbox mods are "pls bring to ps4" with a handful of normal comments throw in. I'm on ps4 currently (I plan on grtting a PC at some point this year or early next year.) And I personally don't do this but I wish console users would understand that modders aren't getting paid for this and it's a hobby.

[–]draven3954 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thanks for all your hard work man. Cant wait to check out will be available from everyone. Sorry about all the haters man

[–]Kazas91 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most of those console players are teens, 15 year old cod players.

I probably would have been like them 10 years ago. Why u take out quick scope!!! Mw2 is bs now, it's so easy compared to cod4 modern warfare rant

[–]LandMineHare -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So... This is just a hunch... But I have a feeling you have a deep appreciation for oversized male genitalia?

[–]Cheeseisgood1981 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speaking as a console owner: This was my fear. I be way off base here, and this is in no way a PCMR sentiment (I game primarily on console); I just feel like there are far more immature players on console than PC by design. Mostly because parents don't have as much problem shelling out 300 bucks for a console, but high end gaming PC's can he cost prohibitive to buy for your teen or tween. Again, I don't want to insult console gamers. There are far more that are conscientious, mature and well mannered.

The thing is, that vocal minority really need to keep themselves in check this time. This whole console mod movement right now is an experiment. If we piss off the modders, they won't mod for us. Without quality mods, no one uses them. Then, the experiment fails, and we don't get mods anymore.

Aside from the macro level, there's the micro level. I want to see all the great mods for FO4 come to consoles. So why don't we show our appreciation so much, as to entice the folks that are on the fence as far as console modding, to come over to the dark side. Show modders love, is what I'm saying.

That said, thanks to you and all the other modders out there who are thinking of us. I for one, really do appreciate it. Mods on a console have been something I've always wanted to see, and the folks that are making it a reality have, and deserve, my unyielding respect and admiration. Please, for the love of all that is holy and sacred, keep doing what you're doing!

I've actually thought about starting a modder appreciation thread, but I'm not sure how that would work with forum rules, or how it would go over with communities, or if modders would even be interested in seeing people gushing over your their work. Advise me! I would love to start a thread like that anywhere and everywhere you think it would be appropriate!

TL;dr: I love you modders!

[–]Soulicitor 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

Future post on this sub: Console players, please stop spamming the mod community with hate filled "bug reports". You are using too many mods that don't work together.

Followed by a later post: Unfortunately I no longer have interest in modding due to obvious reasons.

[–]Vexedex 50ポイント51ポイント  (6子コメント)

You do know a negative minority are usually the loudest. Clearly not everybody who plays on console acts like this.

[–]calebcom84 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

This. I am grateful for anything we get on console.

[–]Jay_R_Kay 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hell, looking at what's over in the XB1 section so far, I'm surprised we're getting as much as we're getting. I didn't think we'd get to do stiff like new areas/quests or radio stations or new companions.

[–]calebcom84 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I haven't really looked. Where would I find the proposed mods?

[–]Jay_R_Kay [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

On Bethesda's site. There's a specific thing for mods, find that and you can filter for consoles.

[–]GnarlinBrando [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You do no that if the majority only ever shows up to say, "you know they are just a minority" and dismisses the issues then you are still a part of the problem right?

If they are the only voice and the rest of you just show up to 'but not me' then they still represent you.

[–]scottread1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

True, but then how come PC gamers are so much better "behaved"?

It stands to reason that both sides of the fence would have vocal minorities, yet this behavior isn't tolerated in the PCMR world.

[–]PopeMitchIII 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not all console owners, it's just assholes.

[–]gamepro235 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not all of us are like that. I play on PS4 and I would never do that.

[–]Th3Element05 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Console player here, just wanting to show you support because there are plenty of us waiting patiently who already appreciate what you modders do.

I know how much of a downer all of that negativity can be; I used to be on the Destiny forums during the first year, and that shitty entitled attitude is a nightmare (and it wasn't even directed at me, but at the devs, I really feel bad for you modders getting treated like that.) .

I hope I'm not pushing the wrong buttons here by asking this, but you sound like a very experienced modder and I wanted to take this opportunity to ask someone like you directly.

Do you know if it would be possible to enable the dev console on the Xbox version with a mod? Might it be as simple as enabling it, then we can plug in a USB keyboard and press that magical ~ key? Even if it was that simple, is it the kind of thing that Microsoft wouldn't approve? This has been my number one hope for a console mod, even though I know it's a long shot.

Either way, thanks for what you do.

[–]amalgam_reynolds 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh man, The Division sub right now is like everything that sucked about DTG over a whole year compressed into every single day.

[–]plexxonic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I completely agree, bunch of asshats there.

[–]largePenisLover[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

The console has commands that let's you dump things to harddrive. I can think of a few ways to get malicious code on an xbox by embedding it in a mod and then doing a dump (now running it when on the xbox would be another matter entirely that I can't think of way for). Aside from that you can trigger the end stage of the hidden quests that in turn trigger achievements on xboxlive.
No way in the world MS is going to let that happen.

[–]Th3Element05 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I figured something like that would be the biggest issue, thanks for a real solid answer about it.

I realize that it would be a significantly bigger task if it were possible, but would it be technically possible to create a mod with a dumbed down dev console, i.e. a limited set of commands, basically omitting the ones that can screw with the console outside of the game?

[–]schmak01 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It would be nice if that could be there for you guys, I don't know how many times, specifically in the first few months, where console commands saved my ass with bugs.

[–]Regal241sc 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

No spamming here. Ill take what you guys give me and so far from what Ive seen on bethesdas site, I like a lot of it already. Some things that I didnt even think I wanted in the game where on there.

[–]scoyne15 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Slippery slope of mods. Your first "Hey, I never knew I wanted that!" mod turns into 30gb of "Never knew I wanted that" mods.

[–]Toxic724 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup, this happened to me with Skyrim. I just wanted more weapons and armor. Now my list of mods include better rug textures and better ember textures. Never even noticed rugs until I saw that mod.

[–]SconesAndEvil 7ポイント8ポイント  (13子コメント)

I play on PS4, and my only question is "is it possible to bring this mod to console?" I wouldn't demand it, hell no, but there are some mods I would be curious about bringing to the PS4 when we get mods there.

[–]largePenisLover[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (12子コメント)

The problem is that "you" would be one of 500 PM's on each website everyday. That is beside the emails, threads in forums and invasions of modder chat rooms. All asking if it can be done.

[–]BenAdaephonDelat 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Seems like Bethesda and Nexus need to make rules about requesting mods in the comments and actually start enforcing them.

[–]xaraan 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, on nexus, mod authors can delete comments, ban users from their mods, etc. Maybe more of that should go on. Some authors are pretty tough about it and at first I thought 'whoa' but as I've seen more and more dumb comments I have begun to think they are onto something and should just be hard on commenters.

[–]xSergis [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

guess console teenagers are the kinda thing that turns good men ugly

[–]Abyss_walkingPray for It's Irradiated Love 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

[–]largePenisLover[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

We mainly hang out on the nexus and loverslab so this tends to be missed. On the nexus these questions are answere promptly.

Bit late at 19 hours but I'll go answer it.

[–]Abyss_walkingPray for It's Irradiated Love 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's fine, we got one good comment that (for me at least) really helped me grasp the differences between modding FO4 and modding F:NV. Just please remember, console players outnumber PC players HEAVILY, many of those players don't use the net to talk about FO4. Until they heard mods, and now the silent majority swarms like locust.

[–]largePenisLover[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I hadn't considered that. I think steam userbase is larger then both consoles put together, not sure. It never occurred to me there could be more console then pc sales.

[–]Abyss_walkingPray for It's Irradiated Love 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I tried looking up some solid numbers yesterday, but they're pretty tight lipped. But, to put out some numbers, three days after launch there were 12 million copies sold, with only 1.2 million being digital (this includes PSN and XBL marketplaces). Unless they made FO4 for PC a physical release, then 10.8 million of those sold would be on console (theoretically anyway).

[–]sam2795 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Your numbers are sort of wrong. Fallout did sell 12 mill copies the first week , but it didn't sell 1.2 mill digital across all platforms. It sold 1.2 million copies on steam only. There are no specific numbers for how many copies were digital to physical, but Todd Howard did state that the majority of sales were digital copies which was a first for the series.

[–]Abyss_walkingPray for It's Irradiated Love 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not surprised, finding definite numbers is pretty difficult. One of the sources I looked at yesterday was the 1.2 was digital (specifically mentioning PSN and XBL), though other sources do not state that. Thanks for clarifying!

[–]GnarlinBrando [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's kinda the point though isn't it?

It is not your friendly neighborhood modder's job to teach internet noobs forum etiquette, and for a long time has been a community mostly consisting of pretty tech and net savvy people. If the console community makes it too big of a problem (whether it is their fault or not) then more and more modders will move to private forums to get a healthy community back. Then we all lose out.

If there are more of you, then you cannot let a small majority ruin it for everyone else, and shouldn't just dismiss the rest of it, regardless if there is good reason for it, it is still a problem.

[–]Slingster 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Why can't I make mods on my Xbox" - It's apparent that console players seem to think that the G.E.C.K is simply a program that works like an in-game editor (LittleBigPlanet creation or DOOM snap map).

Learn what modding is before you go insulting the veterans of the modding community. This is even happening on the Nexus? Pretty disappointing.

But also OP tone down the "console peasant" attitude.

[–]ImUrHellAtom bomb baby~ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ahh, I never thought of this being an issue. I'm mainly a console player, and I have been really hyped to get mods finally to console. This is a great thing though, and hopefully we see more and more games following this. Of course console gamers are normally more children than PC gamers, and they need to be taught that consoles can't handle the things a PC can, but hopefully this will come into light when they install clashing mods and freak out. Maybe once the mods come out, more console gamers will try to make their own mods, and see how hard it can be. Then maybe the shitposts will die down some. Just don't think all console gamers are assholes. A lot of us silent ones know how much work it takes to make a mod, and while we are hoping we get loads of great mods, we know the limits and we appreciate all the work modders put into it.

[–]darkweaver66 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

At least for me, im super glad that so many modders and big mods are working towards console release :) that said i would happily donate for certain mods which require a great deal of change to work on console to help the mod developer do his thing, and im sure i cant be the only one. Not all of us console peasents are evil :(

[–]damican1982 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Please don't throw us all into the same hat. You have to understand that majority of console players don't even use nexus or bethesda.net ( I use them for Skyrim and FNV ) but in 4+ years I been using those sites, I never once posted anything.

This is pretty much the only game that's going to get mods on consoles. so why would I go and call people that will make that possible names? So a particular mods won't come to consoles? Sucks, but I'll do without it.

So to the OP: Just ignore them and move on. I for one am grateful that you're working on mods for consoles. Keep it up.

[–]davemoedee 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I suspect it is hard to just ignore when they flood you inbox and comments section while you are looking for helpful comments.

[–]dr_bluthgeld 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hate to hear that, I've never really shared that view because I've always been a console gamer and have never lusted after the idea of having mods. Sorry for those who are ruining your hobby, hope that doesn't put you off keeping it up though, I don't see why they should ruin something you enjoy.

[–]musclecars21 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks to you and all modders for the time you put into what you do. I will be grateful for anything I can get my console gaming mitts onto.

[–]Schruk-10364 points 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ignore them. They're just the ignorant children who do not understand the limitations of consoles.

[–]Excal2 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've gotta back OP here, if you're checking your own forum posts for bug identification and feedback from players about your mod, it's kind of hard to ignore a slew of blatant and angry ignorance. Especially when it's this constant.

The folks over at the nexus don't generally bitch and moan unless there's a significant problem, and I've seen plenty of these pages myself: it is turning into a significant problem. Like OP said, this is a hobby and people spend their own free time working on this content. Trying to sort through 4 pages of "plz bring to xbox" while spending your free time looking for actual feedback to improve your mod would be incredibly frustrating.

[–]tremprod 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahaha your flair made me do a quadruple take.

[–]Noah-x3 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do I sense some sort of bias here toward console owners? You do seem to generalize the very small amount of people guilty of expressing self-entitlement here. These few individuals you've seen are just vocal and excited about the ambitious plan to bring modifications to console platforms. In your placement you should consider positively addressing their appreciation for your work. Whining about other people whining just seems a tad bit hypocritical to me.

[–]TehPuppy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ugh, that's just cringey to hear. I am a console player anxiously awaiting the nodding scene's arrival but I personally am well aware that the majority of the good mods won't even be able to get ported over just due to console performance limitations. I guess my point is, not all of us are entitled little shits. I hesitate to say this is a vocal minority thing just judging from previous experience with other console related issues, but just know we aren't all like this.

[–]rax85 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Keep in mind the people being rude with spamming and nasty language have the actual time to sit down and write these childish things because, well, they are probably children. The rest of us console users who are mature are probably too busy playing the game and enjoying life to bother making any such requests. Personally, I would love mods on console FO4, and I'd appreciate any effort made to make that possible.

[–]davemoedee [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not sure about that. I'm in my 40s and I can find time to post a lot of useless nonsense.

[–]bridgesfolly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I play both on PC and Console. After playing the shit out of all the fallouts and skyrim on consoles I wanted to extend the play-ability and decided to get it for PC too. Totally worth it. Mods are amazing and i'm super excited that they're coming to consoles. I have the utmost respect and appreciate for what modders do. I've actually been thinking I might want to start teaching myself how to create my own mods.

[–]SkittlesMeDittles 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Console owner here, little to no PC experience. We're all not as stupid as some of our console comrades would have you think, but I think this post speaks to much more than just modding. I think OP's experience in general just describes current day gaming. Entitled brats, bigots, assholes, etc. It's sad that gaming went from being nerdy and geeky to becoming something a falsely entitled brat becomes associated with.

Of course I have no idea on how to fix the problem, unless a purge or something went down. Just one sad gamer's thoughts that I thought should be shared.

[–]dang3r_muffin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah that's no good. Hopefully this is just a weird time of people getting over excited that we finally get mods. Still no way to react or behave. I will continue to wait patiently! Thanks for everything you guys do to make our experience better!

[–]Iaradrian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That sucks. Really though, the only mod I'm hoping to run on my console is the weather mod (i forget the name) that adds season weather patterns. So um, please, port it. No? Ahole!

[–]LinkdudeGamer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't mind to bring my mods to Xbox. It pretty easy to do so.

[–]NowhereMan87 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

PC elitist who thinks hes superior because he plays on PC players detected.

[–]Xzanos [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What a horrible thing to see just when Bethesda is trying so hard to make modding a thing that we can all enjoy. :(

[–]Lord_Ka1n [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What needs to happen is there needs to just be a check box to make the mid available on console. And that needs to be checked by default.

It's a fact that most people don't bother changing any default settings, so few will go out of their way to change it and make it available, and even fewer would go out of their way to uncheck it and make it unavailable.

[–]dregwriter [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

WOW, I had no idea this was what was going on.

[–]Imprenzia 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I play on ps4 and honestly don't even really understand the appeal of mods. They just seem so ....weird and unofficial to me :p

[–]VitameatavegamN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno, man, as an XB1 player looking forward to console mods, there is some pretty cool "natural" feeling stuff out there. Darker Nights comes to mind, as does the mods that add new weapons, which is really no different gameplay-wise than when Bethesda adds new weapons in DLC. Not to mention the mods that give extra settlement building features.

I understand ones like "unlimited ammo gatlin fat man" or "Thomas the train sentry bots" or even ones that spawn a shit ton of ammo/caps/whatever... that can break immersion for sure. But there are plenty of supplemental mods that can enhance the FO4 experience while still fitting the mood and gameplay that's already there :)

[–]Nubskills 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, there's always a lot of those people. It's even worse due to the fact that a lot of the grateful people are busy enjoying the mods ingame while the "loudest" people tend to be rude and heard more often.

Although there's the fact that Bethesda bringing mods to consoles is a pretty new thing for their playerbase, so lots of people don't understand what actually happens with modding and are used to not having to read to find out.

If it makes you feel any better, there's a lot of people (me included) who extremely appreciate the work that modders do, whether big or small. . Or you could always take a break and entertain yourself with the comments, because some of them sound pretty funny.

[–]deathmonger87 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So...console gamers rely on PC gamers for their mods. Interesting. Well, good luck with that...lol.

[–]stuffmymuff909 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm going to further support the consensus that console players are just appreciative to finally get some mods. I'm sorry that people ask questions that have been answered a million times, but that issue happens with every category, not just mods. :(

[–]BrownMagic86 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being someone named largePenisLover, I'd think you'd love all this attention from dickweeds :)

[–]allisslothed 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I know this isn't an AmA but.. if one were to be interested in picking up modding as a hobby, what are the best tools to get started down that path? I've always been interested but never really knew where to start

[–]largePenisLover[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well just open the creation kit and start doing.

You can follow this tutorial: http://geck.bethsoft.com/index.php?title=Bethsoft_Tutorial_GECK_Setup

Go to the nexus for fallout and skyrim specific tutorials.

It was written for fallout 3 but the basics still apply. Some minor things have changed but some critical thinking will get you past those hurdles.

If you want to make textures you should learn about PBR texturing and how to use photoshop.

For 3d Blender is a good choice. 3d takes time to learn. You need a certain skill level before you can even begin to think about making an interactive model for fallout. However static models (anything that does not animate) should be learnable in a week.

[–]DrLeprechaun 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

How hard is making something like a weapon/armor? Or custom status effects/stats? Can't look at the link currently

[–]largePenisLover[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you want it to have a custom look. hard. Otherwise it's easy. small script, some settings in the kit.

[–]ThatGingerGuy82 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that the large part of the problem is that so many console only players, be it little kids or adults, dont have a lot of knowledge when it comes to how modding works. Hell I dont either, but im the type that likes to read and educate myself first so that I have more confidence in what I'm talking about. But please dont let these individuals ruin your dedication to your hobby that you take pleasure in.

[–]Ekserowancurie stahp pls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

one thing people have to remember as well: a large group of modders have doubts porting their mods because of the loud minority of people killing mods at bethesda.net because of the horrible rating system. thats something the devs should do something about. alot of console players have waited for a long time to be able to play with mods and its sad that some of the best mods wont be ported in because some people were traumatized with the way bethesda.net users treated them and their mods.

[–]WykkydGaming 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've done add-ons and small mods for games myself. I've seen the swarm of entitlement hit nexus like a wave. I feel for you, and the rest of the mod community. I really do. But this is precisely why I've mostly steered clear of making anything I do public (just simple bat files I've published, and not even maintained).

One thing people forget:

Modders do this for free.

You are entitled to exactly nothing. Nothing. You didn't buy anything from them. They haven't sold you a product and refused to deliver. They are doing their work out of the kindness of their heart in the manner, and medium, they personally prefer. They aren't your slave.

You don't have to like this fact. You don't have to like that mod ### isn't available to you, and you really want mod ###. You also don't have to be a complete dick and assault someone who did something for free, usually at the cost of a lot of free time and stress.

If you can't use a specific mod because a specific author won't do what you want, or publish it how you want... tough. Guess what, I ate the rest of my home-made 14-hour smoked pork shoulder for lunch today with home-made, home-grown carolina reaper sauce and it was delicious. You can't have that either.

[–]Relgabrix 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, as many in this thread have said. Fuck em. I've always modded, Im excited to see what creation the truly ambitious create. That said the best will always be on PC. We appreciate your work, and your passion.

[–]Remzenn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a console player and I'm just grateful we are getting mods in the first place. Tune out the haters if possible.

[–]Mr-Quan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It should be mentioned that Console gaming has a fair amount of children on it compared to P.C Gaming just because P.Cs are pretty expensive and complicated to acquire and maintain for gaming purposes. This is important as the people spaming the boards are probably not old enough to even play the game, judging from some of the responses you received. Don't take it as console gamers being entitiled. Take it as COD types brats doing what they do best, being childish and annoying.

[–]Gruffily_Wilkins 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow. I own console and as much as id like mods id never act like this. People are cunts man.

[–]CommanderPacoNuka Cola Addict 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

On bethesda's forum page the comments on my mod are 4 pages of "plz bring to xbox" Even though it says in the description I designed it specifically to work on xbox (simple scripts, no hi-res assets)

On the nexus console owners are posting rants about us asshole PCMR modders who "refuse" to bring mods to consoles. I have been called an asshole because I can't bring a mod that uses third party libraries over to console. It's literally impossible to port this mod to console. I explain this and they come with calling names and posing solutions that I should consider. I've been called a dickweed because I removed a feature from the console version of another mod. It caused lag on a monster pc, it would kill a console. Yet this was a bad decision on my part.

I've been threatened because "I paid for the damn game, I have the right to use that mod!"

There has even been a poll on bethesda.net posted by console players that modders who refuse to release for console should be permabanned.

Wow. Just wow.

I play on both console and PC, and this is exactly why I don't play MP much on console. I've started dabbling in modding recently, but crap like this makes me think twice.

Unfortunately, this is still an experiment and from a marketing standpoint, it seems like Bethesda did not do a good job making it loud and crystal clear that not all mods are going to work on conoles, and if they do, they might might not work as well as they do on the PC. Not only that, they didn't make it clear as well as they should have that mods are created by fans and players...Bethesda has nothing to do with their creation.

Stupid behavior is going to kill this experiment fast.

[–]AdonisBatheus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Console players always tend to be younger because consoles are cheaper than PCs so it's easier to convince parents to get them. This isn't saying that all console players are young whiny kids, but this means you're more likely to experience these toxic, entitled children/teenagers.

Not sure what to say, but I hope you keep modding and that this dies down soon.

[–]Doublechronox [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Every time someone say PBMR I smile. Damn right PC gaming is the master of all gaming. We have better everything in every category plus the majority of us have class. I have never heard my PC gaming friends talk down about console players, but I have heard every one of my console friend talk down about PC gamers. Now I know that this is not a 100% accurate representation of either PC or console gamers as a whole, but history has shown me that it is close.

Mods coming to console is cool and these people that are being grade A ass-hats will destroy it before it even starts. The PC mod community is very good at cleansing the ranks. If this entitled console owner mentality keeps up then I foresee PC mod creators purposely shutting consoles out.

Like I said, not all this is 100%, there are always exceptions to everything, but one this that is 100% is that no one is entitled to @#$!

I truly hope that the majority of console players realize that mod are there because we all want to share what we already have had. but you cannot not expect to have everything. Some mods just will not work on console and some mod creators will want to keep their work PC pure.

But this is all just my opinion.

Edit: sentence structure

[–]DamionWasHere 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

You feel like posting a source to one? I'm doubtful as I would like to keep my faith in humanity.

[–]Zelphyre 7ポイント8ポイント  (10子コメント)

There's a huge thread on pcmr about it if you want to read up on it.

[–]largePenisLover[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

Oh god yes that reminds me of a discussion I had with a console player who actually wanted me to make one of my mods Xbox exclusive.
"But pc can have it too for now" was actually said when I pointed out that exclusivity is by definition impossible.

[–]nostalgicBadger 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

I can't even fathom being selfish enough to want something to be exclusive to your platform of choice, unless you own stock in the company or something. If you enjoy a mod, why would you not want as many people as possible to have access?

[–]Excal2 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because you're fucking stupid and childish, that's why. Like, not you specifically, but the theoretical person who would want that.

[–]kimaro 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah, I hate exclusives. It's the worst thing in gaming.

There's only one reason I own a PS4. And that is exclusive games.

And the worst part is seeing people wanting exclusive games because he/she owns that console? It's like how much of a dumb and selfish person are you?

Urgh. It just get's my blood boiling thinking about it.

Rant over.

[–]Abyss_walkingPray for It's Irradiated Love 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's Bloodborne isn't it

[–]PvtHopscotch 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

As a diehard Souls fan from the very beginning, I stop and stare at PS4s every time I walk by one and ponder how to justify the purchase to myself and my wife because of that game but dammit I will remain strong and resist.

[–]Abyss_walkingPray for It's Irradiated Love 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait until the PS4 1.5's come out and the regular PS4 drops in price. Bloodborne is totally worth it (just not the PvP)

[–]kimaro [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yupp. I wouldnt have gotten it at first. I thought that oh well i can just watch streams with it. Then, maybe a month before the game came out. My phone company had a deal out that when you bought a sony xperia you got a ps4 aswell.

(and i was looking for a new phone. I had one pf the first iphone 4 and it was on its last legs.)

So i got it.

But i always say, if you own a pc and only want a console for the exclusives. Dont go for it. Rather watch a stream or youtube.

[–]Abyss_walkingPray for It's Irradiated Love [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's normally my policy, and was until I saw the word Eldritch. As soon as I saw that word I went out and got a PS4 and Bloodborne because I'm a huge souls and and a Lovecraft fan

[–]BenAdaephonDelat 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, to be fair, most of those are just requests and (with the exception of 1 or 2) at least say please. Maybe Nexus and Bethesda should just add a vote button for PS4/Xbox that just increments a number and make it very clear over their comment sections not to request mods in the comments.

[–]largePenisLover[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bethesda.net. The fallout forums. Any and all release threads on the nexus. Have a look. Nearly all of the front page is console players spazzing out.
I will not source directly as that gives away clues that can be used to identify me.

[–]Creepermoss -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

"You are not entitled to anything" <---this, right here.

@Generation "do it for me", all of you need to pay attention to this, because life is going to stop holding your hand eventually, and you'll have to do things for yourself.

[–]Excal2 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Whatever you say, @Generation "left nothing for the rest of humanity"

[–]Abyss_walkingPray for It's Irradiated Love -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I lol'd

[–]psmylie 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That kind of entitlement is more of a maturity thing which will (one hopes) start to fade as that generation ages. Though, granted, plenty of older people manage to hang on to that mindset...

[–]Drunk-Gaming -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

May I offer you some cheese?

[–]grey_water -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Perhaps they should get a job and build themselves a computer?

Consoles need to die. I'm still using my i5-750 which was released about 3 years after the ps3 came out and it still plays most games pretty well,

[–]Raging-AfroPaladin Afro 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

don't be a twat, people like you make me embarrassed to own a pc

[–]Toothless_pytho -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I say fuck it make a sloppy as port an if it kills the console who gives a shit

[–]Azyreal -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's just peasants, don't think about them.

[–]SincerelyDishonestRecruit legionary -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, console peasants are always the loudest

[–]PlatanoSalesmanI Sell Plantains -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember not too long ago when mods were something only filthy hackers stuck in their mothers basement used. Console players were better because they didn't need to resort to mods in order to enjoy the game. Now though?

Well....

[–]psmylie -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn... That sense of entitlement really pisses me off. I'm not a modder (though I'm planning on trying it out for Fo4 - I got some ideas for power armor I want to try), but I really appreciate all the work you folks do.

I see this kind of whiny self-entitled bull all over the internet. For example, people will badger webcomic artists about how quickly they release things, or the perceived quality, or whatever. How about, don't complain about things you don't have to pay for? How freakin' hard is that?

[–]Luciphear -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

There will always be people who will act childish and spoiled, unfortunately all we can do is ignore them. I will support console modding and in the future ship my mods to console as well but not because of spoiled brats but because I want as many people as possible to enjoy my mods that are compatible with consoles.

I don't respond, or at all actually, to whining. It's better to move on and ignore it. It's as you say, a hobby. We don't get paid for it - even more reason not to listen to the negativity. (There's really nothing they can do besides whine anyway, and it will happen.)

That said - I do approve of this thread. While I don't think this will actually affect any of the people who whine and compain it's worth putting up there.

[–]Wooper160Dogmeat>all -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I didn't even know mods were on console yet

[–]FriedPi -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is partly Bethesda's fault, they should of realized tons of youthful idiots will be wanting the mods. They needed to flood social media a link to a page explaining how they will work on console; and perhaps how to request some not listed.

Their page for mods seems well laid out, though, just sign up, download, and then install on console from game main screen. https://mods.bethesda.net/

[–]Azerajin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

im sure its a tiny minority of gamers who are doing this. Same as any asshole or troll. but take it as a compliment, People are interested in YOUR artwork and want it implimented in one of their favorite games. (never msged anyone for mods ever) but its someone giving your work love. Dont cry or be bootytickled over it. They are excited to finally be treated with the same respect game companies give PC gamers. Ignore the trolls and move on. If your letting a few people Ruin your hobby. thats on you

[–]ChronBonham -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't listen to those dickweeds who don't appreciate the art of mods. Im on console, and don't understand the first thing about mods, but I do know that it isn't some cake walk. I understand (as well as many console players) that some mods just won't work for consoles as they do on PC. I am very greatful for Bethesda's choice in porting mods to consoles, and I also love that the PC modders are so down with bringing their ideas to life on all platforms. I wouldn't be so quick to deem every and all console player as some spoiled brat , because a lot of us out there totally understand, and appreciate the work done by the modders, and Bethesda to bring mods to consoles. I for one can't fucking wait.

[–]nipple_butt -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What mods have you created? If edgy high school kids are willing to threaten you over not porting it over to consoles, I'm interested in seeing it.

[–]schmak01 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those aren't console owners or even gamers, those are a sub-category which PC gamers call peasants. The millennial "me first" generation just makes it worse.

They are a minority, even though it may not seem like it, because they are vocal as all hell. These are the same people that believe you cannot see more than 30 fps and that it is OK to pay $400 for system that cannot handle 1080p @ 30 fps, and has to dynamically adjust resolution. It's more "cinematic". It is OK to buy a $400 system if it's just your preferred way, no need for falsehoods. They are just loud, annoying and entitled. Their ignorance and flat out defiance of education makes them even more disturbing to work with. Welcome to the new world, 140 characters or less.

[–]grey_water -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly it's Nexus's fault.

What they should of had done is to implement a point system that indicates a demand by console players. The more points the more demand there is for a mod.

They should also implement a comment filer that helps eliminates the spam. I would go further and ban accounts after they've been reported for spamming too many times.

[–]Kalthramis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What they should do is limit new users from posting. Time limits or X number of mods endorsed. I bet it'll more than halve the bitching