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[–]wtfiswrongwithit 213ポイント214ポイント  (6子コメント)

If the bans were completely based off of racism, like Ronan is implying, they wouldn't have typed "harrassing a streamer" in the content box. They probably would have muted instead of banning, and the list goes on. I'm getting more annoyed with the response to this, and how they're trying to brush it under the rug, than the initial bans.

[–]scaper28 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

this has to go down as one of the worst cases of PR handling. most companies fuck up some time but they tend to handle the aftermath fairly well. this was not handled anywhere near well.

[–]LPKing 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. This point need to be bolstered as well as addressed.

[–]vardaracAll F2P, Alla Time | RSN: Stone Tides 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm getting more annoyed with the response to this, and how they're trying to brush it under the rug

Jagex's PR history has followed the 5 D's pattern since I can remember.

[–]FourT-Two42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Debut Destroy Distract Deescalate Death

[–]Bulletproof_Haas 96ポイント97ポイント  (8子コメント)

Coming from RS3 I feel bad that you guys are dealing with such shit. Over at /r/Runescape we're pissed about a poor update but this is a much bigger problem that you all have to handle.

From an outside perspective, with little background knowledge on the situation, its obvious that the jmods have piss poor public relations experience. They seem to have handled the entire situation in the absolute worst way possible. It seems to me that they've undermined their own credibility and are actively driving public sentiment into the ground. The best solution would be a transparent response, yet you have received the exact opposite. Rather than confronting the criticism and accusations they seem to dodge them.

I honestly hope that you guys get some sense of equality and closure to the entire situation.

[–]Machine00000hail alisonquinn 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems to me that they've undermined their own credibility and are actively driving public sentiment into the ground. The best solution would be a transparent response, yet you have received the exact opposite. Rather than confronting the criticism and accusations they seem to dodge them.

This needs to be shouted across this sub-reddit. This is exactly why people are agitated.

[–]gimbi2525 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

we were pissed about a poor update too. thats why osrs even started lol

[–]Toofluffles 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm more offended at how Ronan thinks we're all incapable of dealing with this 'racism' than any amount of racism in the world.

What racism was there? I didn't realise the cry emote was for the ubermensch who were upset because everyone around them has not yet been emancipated from their inferior genome...

Damn, what else? The 'follow' button is ban-able because it illustrates a rapist stalking a potential victim at 3am waiting for the moment where nobody can see or hear?

[–]SplashyTheGod 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

OSRS Mod team is incompetent and inconsistent? Who woulda thought

[–]DeathNoteRsRSN: Death Note [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Let's not accuse Mod Ghost and Mod Weath. I don't think either of those have anything to do with this situation. :p

[–]Tea_PottShort and Stout 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I completely agree with most of the points made here. Although it's natural for companies to look for what ways gain the highest profit, it shouldn't be done at the expense of the players and the game itself.

I guess this is the straw that finally broke the camel's back. The first few times this has happened, people managed to forgive (somewhat) and forget (somewhat). And everything was swept under the rug for a duration of time. However, now that this has happened again and more than likely will happen again if not stopped/brought to question, the community have had a public outcry.

I'm very glad that the 07 community is fighting for what they think is right and fighting for this game as a whole, a game that means so much to them. It makes me proud to be apart of this community that cares so much about their game and fellow players.

[–]Maestaer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shouldn't be and don't are two different things.

[–]Whats_9_Plus_10 32ポイント33ポイント  (5子コメント)

I just find it absolutely amazing how it had to be Ronan who had to come out and make that thread. Mat must really want all the hate to go to him now. Such a great co-worker I must say. By the way... still waiting on the chat logs.

[–]Statue_left 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's the community manager. It is literally his job to do that.

[–]Supergigala 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well mate thats a well known tactic amongst support teams. You have someone else write it for you because the users don't want to read anything from the guy who screwd up.

[–]Perpetual_Rage -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is there any evidence that MatK actually banned these people or are you just assuming?

[–]Supergigala 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

pretty sure you can see him on the VOD

[–]sean_hi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

he's the community manager or whatever, that part isn't unusual

[–]SuryaSath 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

A very articulate response. I agree almost completely on your point of view.

[–]bansaboers 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Copied from the original post I posted on:

Let me explain why we're mad.

If these people really are as toxic as you say and you already knew of them, why did the ban come down on the the very time they appeared on Emily's stream? If there is someone toxic as shit that needs to get gotten rid of, why are they not ejected earlier as opposed to when they appear under the spot light aka on streams?

Is it like an "oh shit" moment where you realize the fair m'lady will get abused and "harassed" by emotes so you throw all caution to the wind and ban the person on the spot when you could have done it literally any other time as well?

That's why you guys are white knights.

[–]Kunde9 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This thread is gold

[–]SSmajesty 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's well known that if a police officer follows a car for long enough, at the end of the day they will most likely have a reason to give that driver a ticket. Same principal applies here, if you look back far enough in anyone's chat logs eventually you'll find grounds for a ban because of harassment. At some point someone might have mentioned something about their American co-worker, or said something rude about Emily, or complained about minorities, or God forbid, agreed with anything that Trump ever said. I feel like it's wrong to ban those people based on what they said. if they weren't reported before, or if they already served their punishments, its wrong to ban unless what they are getting banned for is currently happening. You missed your chance to ban a player months ago because of what they said? Tough luck, improve that aspect of your in-game chat filter or moderation team. Going into someone's chat history with the intent to ban someone for the sake of banning them is pathetic. I'm of a mind to ask the developers at OSB to create their own chat widget, because I will never use any chat feature in-game ever again, except to provide information on how someone can contact me outside the game. Clearly Jagex cannot be trusted to be reasonable, so i'd prefer not to provide them with any information.

inb4 my lack of in-game chat is "proof" that i'm a botter.

[–]FourT-Two42 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Trump did nothing wrong.

[–]Osmium_tetraoxide 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like the idea of circumventing the game using a client entirely. It would stop any banning whatsoever.

[–]deadmangomode1488 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Btw its bannable to request people to contact you outside the game. Check the report function.

[–]Crxk 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ronan's the type of grease to actually crave the attention of a girl over the internet. She has him on strings

[–]artee89 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

i agree with the pushing back thing, i remember when jagex first implemented EOC and players were asking if a pre-eoc version of runescape would be made so players who didnt like EOC could still play, the response from jagex was its not possible and we cannot do that..look what happened after people made their voices heard and not just let jagex do whatever they want. If it was up to jagex, OSRS would not exist right now.

[–]IonBaws 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

we need to bring this up to jagex owners maybe they will fire the guy

[–]SwissKeks 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually can agree, this is how we got eoc, by not pushing back what we dont want. Im still not sure who is lying (if not both) but i'll be in.

[–]SharkBrewQuit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was going to say that there's a real chance that racism/toxic behavior (other than around Emily) was probably the reason for the bans, but that raises the question: why were they banned for 'steamer harassment'?

[–]Bukalaka 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

FIGHT THE AUTOCRACY

[–]globalsnowbal [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is a nice case study (of many others) of why Social Justice could destroy and entire community.

[–]Winzinow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Agreed. Comment for attention.

[–]Waterwings559 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The cover up just gets deeper and deeper. Jagex is gonna dig themselves into a hole.

[–]Indyy_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Comparing these harassment bans and the joy releasing of evidence with Watergate is one of the funniest things I've heard in a long while.

[–]ChadworthTheGreat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cancel your memberships. These cucked mods deleted my post when it wasn't even violating any of the posting TOS. I tried to tell people why they're full of corruption, and that they don't need your income if they're all a bunch of 12 year olds. Done with this game until they can get rid of the bad apples yeah.

[–]Really_big_daddy -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Might be time to start calling peoples wives n family

[–]WingsRS -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol who the fuck cares