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[–]thehalfwit 3021ポイント3022ポイント  (253子コメント)

A blogger with an interest in numbers, who uses the name Curious Gnu, recently crunched a Reddit dataset of 4.6 million comments and noted that 78 percent of Reddit threads with over 1,000 comments mention Nazis or Hitler.

The irony being most of these are jokes. Very. Lame. Jokes.

[–]Valid_Argument 1467ポイント1468ポイント  (131子コメント)

This is now one of those threads too. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

[–]KaieriNikawerake 969ポイント970ポイント  (122子コメント)

it's the law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1

[–]amalgam_reynolds 882ポイント883ポイント  (24子コメント)

There haven't been any comparisons to Nazis so far though, just mentions of them. Probably due to the censorship, Reddit admins are basically Joseph Goebbels.

[–]HagbardCelineHere 127ポイント128ポイント  (75子コメント)

This law seems silly. As an online discussion grows longer, doesn't the probability of any string of words being used approach 1?

[–]KaieriNikawerake 254ポイント255ポイント  (59子コメント)

Of course but it's not an actual law, it's a humorous observation about hyperbole

[–]vabinexicuba 51ポイント52ポイント  (48子コメント)

It's curiously never cited as such. It's always cited in a feeble attempt to invalidate the comparison regardless of how accurate it may actually be.

[–]cakeandbeer 99ポイント100ポイント  (36子コメント)

Seriously. God forbid we learn a lesson from the Holocaust.

[–]computeraddict 91ポイント92ポイント  (31子コメント)

My takeaway was don't invade Russia in the winter. Was there more?

[–]soup-kitchen 75ポイント76ポイント  (6子コメント)

Never engage in a battle of wits with a Sicilian. Or maybe that was a land war in Asia. Hell. I don't know.

[–]calicosiside 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

and dont burn your slaves, its a waste of man power that would be better spent manufacturing arms

[–]bonkus 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

I somehow doubt that the SS was at a loss for prosthetic limbs.

[–]the_orange_wizard 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Silly? What are you, a Nazi?

[–]ijpqenbfp 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, the probability of the string of "I was wrong and you were right" words being used remains near zero.

[–]Tissorall 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Godwin has stated that he introduced Godwin's law in 1990 as an experiment in memetics.

The Dankest of experimental categories

[–]panda_gravy 94ポイント95ポイント  (7子コメント)

78% of reddit comments are very lame jokes. The rest are shitposts.

[–]jlt6666 175ポイント176ポイント  (25子コメント)

The blogger found that around 2.6 percent of comments in the ‘european’ subreddit mentioned Nazis or Hitler. A slightly higher percentage of comments on the ‘AskHistorians’ subreddit mentioned Nazis or Hitler, with around 2.75 percent of comments on the ‘history’ subreddit referencing the topics.

I like how we put 78% vs 2.6% to make it seem like there's a reasonable comparison.

[–]TheNbird 210ポイント211ポイント  (19子コメント)

78% of threads with at least 1,000 comments.

2.6% of comments. Statistically that's one in 40 comments.

[–]GeneralBS 56ポイント57ポイント  (8子コメント)

I wonder how many of those are from history subs asking about WW2.

[–]Jodah 32ポイント33ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hard to say for sure but I doubt it would change the 78% figure much. The biggest problem is that very few of the /r/askhistorians threads get to 1000+ comments. Just a quick check of the top 25 threads of all time over there only 1 had over 1000 (one other came close with 998). However, WW2 and Nazi's are some of the most discussed topics there. /r/history sees similar numbers with only 2 of the top 25 having over 1000 comments (several more at 950+).

[–]communistcrashdummy 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also surprising that they highlight one of the most heavily modded subs while also being one of the few places where it is expected topics like Hitler and the Nazis would be discussed.

[–]not_so_plausible 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heh. You just said Nazi again. I just did as well. Onwards to 100%!!

[–]Reddisaurusrekts 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

But it also doesn't say how many comments in the 78% of threads had references to Nazis or Hitler.

[–]Jodah 33ポイント34ポイント  (2子コメント)

Exactly, all it takes is some jackass troll to say "Trump is literally Hitler" in a completely unrelated post for it to count. Oh, the thread was actually about blind nuns saving kittens from burning schools and the troll in question got downvoted into oblivion? Doesn't matter, still said Hitler.

[–]Georgy_K_Zhukov 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is their point though? "European mentioned Hitler less than /r/AskHistorians, so why did they get quarantined and not AH?"? Cause... context guys... context...

[–]TheRealMewt 164ポイント165ポイント  (42子コメント)

Lets be real... Reddit has been accused of censorship long before /r/european getting quarantined.

[–]TheOddEyes 17ポイント18ポイント  (20子コメント)

Why was it quarantined?

[–]duck345 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Reddit got a "trust and safety team" and that was their first move

[–]TimHortonReborn [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

There were two Europe subs: /r/Europe and /r/European (the one being discussed). "European" was filled with neo-Nazi propaganda and frequented by Stormfront users. Typical posts and comments were full of racist vitriol towards migrants and anyone non-white.

[–]PENIS__FINGERS 1003ポイント1004ポイント  (85子コメント)

Lmao admins are accused of censorship everyday

[–]escalation 679ポイント680ポイント  (59子コメント)

Well, that's fair considering that is basically the job description of a moderator

[–]PENIS__FINGERS 145ポイント146ポイント  (40子コメント)

Yes, pretty funny it's posted in the news subreddit

[–]Sam-the-Lion 100ポイント101ポイント  (8子コメント)

If I agree with it, it's moderating. If disagree with it, it's censoring.

[–]swtor_sucks 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

We have to keep Reddit free of ignorant comments like mine!

[–]DubTeeDub 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Admins are not moderators.

Admins run the website, moderators are janitors for individual subs.

[–]The-Atom 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

'Toronto Maple Leafs still mediocre'

[–]visforv 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

YOU TAKE THAT BACK, please. Sorry if I came off too strong! Sorry!

[–]Fistocracy 1763ポイント1764ポイント  (495子コメント)

I like how the article never actually says what sort of community r/European has or why it was quarantined.

[–]lightgrip 41ポイント42ポイント  (5子コメント)

I visited the subreddit a couple of times (not as a subscriber). It was very anti-immigration & anti-islam, but I'm surprised to hear it's been quarantined.

[–]mrpenguinx 1175ポイント1176ポイント  (200子コメント)

Its fox news. My moneys on the fact that they're just trying to stir controversy.

Because no one would care if the title was "Racists and Neo-Nazis get blocked off from private website.".

[–]rudebii 597ポイント598ポイント  (101子コメント)

I think they're also trying to keep alive the "liberal left coast tech companies are trying to censor conservative views" meme that's gained major steam with the Facebook story last week.

[–]chiliedogg 283ポイント284ポイント  (54子コメント)

If Facebook censors conservative posts they really, really suck at it.

Every third thing I see on there is about Obama the socialist destroying all things good.

[–]careless_sux 518ポイント519ポイント  (34子コメント)

The claim was that they censor trending topics -- not what your idiot friends post.

[–]TiffanyNutmegRaccoon 43ポイント44ポイント  (21子コメント)

I don't see really why people get so outraged when the admins delete certain content. Reddit isn't a goverment, it's a private website used for leisure that depends on advertisement and other things for profit.

I Imagine a fart left liberal forum or a far right suber right wing forum would cut some unwanted fat as well.

[–]One_Wheel_Drive 45ポイント46ポイント  (6子コメント)

It goes as far as to say that Nazis and Hitler are mentioned less often than other subreddits. That alone highlights how bullshit the article is.

[–]Fistocracy 122ポイント123ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's because when white supremacists get angry they Godwin internet arguments by calling each other jews instead of calling each other Hitler.

[–]breecher 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]InfamousBrad 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, man, that whole thread really needs to be linked way up higher in this thread, because it really tells the full story.

Which makes the meta-story even funnier, in an appalling way: Fox News is basically complaining that Reddit stopped allowing Nazis to post to Reddit's main front page, as if that were a bad thing. You know, if conservatives don't want to be called fascists, they should try not being so okay with and defensive of fascists, that's what I think. But, then, I'm a crazy person.

[–]orbat 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Considering how the only subs where they're mentioned less are /r/history and /r/AskHistorians, that's a pretty misleading statement even for Fox

[–]aydiosmio 80ポイント81ポイント  (12子コメント)

And confuse quarantine with actual honest censorship.

[–]TheBeginningEnd 65ポイント66ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah I noticed they referenced the message from the /r/European mods saying the subreddit was now offline and had been taken to Voat as if it was part of the quarantine. The fact that the mods decided to scorch the ground when they got quarantined is a different issue altogether from the actual quarantine.

[–]vkgfx 206ポイント207ポイント  (80子コメント)

Yeah they never say what it is and stick to "we need open discussion" concern trolling.

It's classic "our voice is important to express violent hatespeech but reddit's voice to curate its content is oppressive" shenanigans.

It's always fun to have an excuse to go look at the state of things on voat. Near the top of v/politics:

The White Race is all ready the most diverse! No other races exhibits all of the following: Red, Blonde, Brown, and Black Hair.. Green, Blue, Hazel, and Brown Eyes

with the top comment:

That's why we're easily the most beautiful race out there.

All the other races know that, that's why dem nogs be hattinnn brahhh

Hahahaha, wonderful.

[–]dabigmanating 127ポイント128ポイント  (44子コメント)

Remember last summer when the whole Ellen Pao thing happened and everyone was saying they were going to abandon censored reddit for free voat? Looks like that turned out well!

[–]vkgfx 99ポイント100ポイント  (40子コメント)

I was all for that. I grew up with the internet during BBS, forums, etc., in which there was an established ethos and set of boundaries on any site you were on. If you wanted to shitpost or whatever in a way that violated it, you went elsewhere. If no one will have you, then you can either (a) reevaluate your life or (b) buy your own hosting. But no one is obligated to provide a platform for anything they don't want to. Thinking your hateful demagoguery against <insert group of people here> is so precious that it must be hosted by reddit is narcissism. If the principle of it is too much, then again, there's voat and other sites where diligent champions of freedom can wallow revel in free speech.

I actually would have preferred it if FPH, Coontown, and others could have pretended to be grownups and exercised even slight control over themselves. Instead they harassed other subs, making it necessary to deal with them. I'd much rather have people like that feel content to post in their own echo chambers rather than spread to news, worldnews, etc.

[–]GodIsPansexual 40ポイント41ポイント  (19子コメント)

But they did!

“The administration has decided to censor free speech for Europeans and they quarantined the subreddit on the 12th of May 2016,”

They're censoring free speech "for Europeans". That's as far as I'm reading, and that's good enough for me. #Trump2016

[–]astonsilicon 1094ポイント1095ポイント  (566子コメント)

FoxNews should do a story on SRS, now that would be entertainment.

[–]snaredonk 264ポイント265ポイント  (108子コメント)

PBS did it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXGs_7Yted8

Shitredditsays part where they're presented in a good light. They see themselves as "bullying the bullies".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXGs_7Yted8?t=3m17s

I think those 2 SRS girls were doxxed and turned out they work/used to work for buzzfeed. They probably or most definitely helped their admins friends by writing about them back when reddit was starting out.

[–]Hyperdrunk 262ポイント263ポイント  (59子コメント)

They see themselves as "bullying the bullies".

"It's okay, we only do bad things to bad people." "But who gets to define who the bad people are?" "We do, of course."

[–]swampswing 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yep. This is how the worst atrocities come about. People will do the worst things, if they think it is for a good cause.

[–]Dimanovic 33ポイント34ポイント  (28子コメント)

I was once bullied by SRS :(

Okay, not so much "bullied." Mostly just confused.

Out of the blue I got a message saying I had been banned. I'd never even been there and had no idea what the sub was about. I messaged a mod and got a barely coherent response so figured I was just being randomly trolled. Many months later I kind of found out what SRS actually is, though I'm still not 100% sure even though at face value it seems obvious.

EDIT: Doh! I just dug up the old message and it turns out /r/ShitRedditSays had banned me and I've been thinking it was /r/SRS. Also the barely coherent conversation with a mod was due to a ban from /r/circlejerk, not /r/ShitRedditSays. Still don't know why I was banned from /r/ShitRedditSays or what /r/SRS and /r/circlejerk are about.

[–]Scrub_Printer 40ポイント41ポイント  (21子コメント)

Yep, you'll get banned from quitequite a bit of subreddits for posting on "harassment subs" like for posting in /r/kotakuinaction I got banned from /r/blackladies, and /r/offmychest.

[–]telios87 157ポイント158ポイント  (40子コメント)

How is doing anything for Buzzfeed "work"? I could drag my testicles across the keyboard and come up with equal content.

[–]nickdaisy 78ポイント79ポイント  (16子コメント)

I'm going to try that right now:

"Ger824fj.09 v7%o,"t!e f:;0%$r H=i[]l&la><r&y !"

Yep, reads like a Buzzfeed article.

[–]PM_me_Venn_diagrams 668ポイント669ポイント  (398子コメント)

What about r/conservative, where censorship is right in the rules? Only conservatives discussing pro-conservative topics allowed.

[–]Tentapuss 741ポイント742ポイント  (281子コメント)

And even then only conservatives of a specific stripe. I was banned after opining that the GOP should divorce itself from the lunacy of the Religious Right, because their irrational stances on social issues is having a negative impact on the party's growth. If a Ted Cruz theocratic presidency doesn't get you hard, you aren't allowed there.

[–]Threeleggedchicken 241ポイント242ポイント  (56子コメント)

I got banned from /r/sandersforpresident for saying that Bernie is too old to run again in 2020.

[–]Tentapuss 87ポイント88ポイント  (22子コメント)

That's just stating a fact, and far less combative than I was!

[–]kllkll 46ポイント47ポイント  (21子コメント)

Yeah, but unfortunately, we don't actually have free speech on other people's websites. Reddit isn't ours, or a government-provided taxpayer-funded shared platform. Reddit is just a big whiteboard owned and operated by businessmen and women. And that means, if they wanted to wipe part or all of Reddit clean tomorrow, you would have no say in it.

Just imagine you're making graffiti with permission while you're here. They can repaint any time.

[–]UuuuR 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

The point being that you shouldn't paint here because the people that repaint are bigger dicks than the people that they're claiming need painted over for being dicks. If only it was /r/europe but it's pretty much everything. Forget about posts being deleted or people being banned, lots of /r/news and /r/worldnews stories aren't even appearing anymore.

[–]Lily-lily 10ポイント11ポイント  (11子コメント)

But are Reddit portraying themselves as that? no they are portraying themselves as the go to site for getting a "realistic" idea of "Public Opinion" If it is heavily censored then it's just pushing a narrative, not reflecting reality

[–]CoonStuff 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's the issue, right there. That dishonesty is alienating for casual dissenters, let alone legitimately disenfranchised weirdos, who are already on the path to radicalization. Reddit proves their paranoid fantasies right.

[–]Isord 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

It has nothing to do with "businessmen." Subreddits are just by definition circlejerks. When you segregatr people into 11,000 subreddits each one becomes its own little cult, for better or worse.

[–]MrLKK 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't believe you, I've seen plenty of people state that in the 9 months I've been subscribed.

[–]PM_me_Venn_diagrams 384ポイント385ポイント  (110子コメント)

Im a former conservative myself, I left after the party went full retard in 2008 with the "Obama is a secret Muslim" crap and all the other conspiracy theories.

[–]rabidjellybean 311ポイント312ポイント  (39子コメント)

That had me laughing so hard because at the same Muslims were accusing him of being a jew.

[–]KabIoski 182ポイント183ポイント  (18子コメント)

My favorite part was when there was about two weeks where he was still being accused of buying into extremist christian views under Jeremiah Wright, and being a secret Muslim.

[–]Doc_Girlfriend_ 95ポイント96ポイント  (15子コメント)

Don't forget atheist. And the one about how he was married to a man in Pakistan or something.

[–]whiskey__wizard 48ポイント49ポイント  (9子コメント)

I had a former friend in South Carolina who seriously said, "Guys, I'm really worried that he might be the antichrist."

This woman is teaching children, btw.

[–]t0rchic 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a friend who constantly calls Obama the antichrist to make fun of ridiculous Christians. He'll be glad to hear someone shares his sentiment regarding Obama, thank you.

[–]ItsMinnieYall 52ポイント53ポイント  (9子コメント)

Haha I don't remember him ever being called a Jew. That's hilarious.

[–]SlanderPanderBear 61ポイント62ポイント  (8子コメント)

To be fair I think that was the same dude who swore that he performed oral sex on Obama and just wanted him to acknowledge it.

[–]ItsMinnieYall 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well don't leave me hanging. Did he admit it?

[–]SlanderPanderBear 47ポイント48ポイント  (5子コメント)

It was in a lengthy confession he signed on his long-form birth certificate...

....from KENYA!

[–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 102ポイント103ポイント  (11子コメント)

Barack HUSSEIN Obama! It's right in his name!!!

That's sarcasm, in case anyone was worried. Edit: Did people forget Fox News always emphasizing the Hussein in his name? Hunh.

[–]Kerbologna 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

They will have a field day if Hillary picks Castro as her running mate.

[–]FoodBornChillness 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

No its going to be Kony probably. Then Sanders with Darrell Hammond, Normal Macdonald, and Jim Gaffigan.

[–]squaredrooted 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

No our statuses on Facebook back in 2012 already got rid of Kony

[–]Tentapuss 49ポイント50ポイント  (24子コメント)

I'm for small government run by people, who rely on reason and rationality and who don't interfere in my or anyone else's personal life, provided that no one is actively harming anyone else or their property. At one point in our history, that was a pretty popular view not only in Philly, where I'm from and where a bunch of people signed some papers to that effect, but also in most of the country. Now, we only have an illusory choice of supporting one of two sets of corporate interests, both of which love certain flavors of big government and thought/behavior policing.

And people wonder why America is currently torn three ways among a bombastic iconoclast, a venomous establishment huckster, and, something that most wouldn't have predicted ten years ago, a Brooklyn-born Jewish socialist democrat from Vermont, who's been endorsed by Phish (or at least their tubby, sundress-wearing drummer). And I don't say that last part disparagingly. There's something invigorating about Bernie, even though I know my taxes would go through the roof if he somehow managed to push his agenda through Congress.

[–]escalation 25ポイント26ポイント  (14子コメント)

Honestly I'd be willing to pay more taxes if the government would just get the fuck out of every other aspect of people's lives. Ideally, I'd like a pay as you go system that doesn't require a bunch of audits and recordkeeping, such as a sales tax that excludes essentials

[–]illiternati 42ポイント43ポイント  (10子コメント)

Honestly, the things that bothers me about all the tax I pay is how much of it is wasted. I'd willingly pay more taxes if the things it went to pay were not so horribly backwards and disorganized. For example, under cash for clunkers it costs taxpayers $24,000 per car sold, to give an average rebate of $4,000. Then stuff like using my tax dollars so the NSA can spy on me or using my tax dollars to fight my 2nd ammendment rights. Are you kidding me?

I pay $650 a month for health insurance that covers less than it did when I paid $150 a month for a family plan, this is not progress.

[–]Agamemnon314 37ポイント38ポイント  (5子コメント)

Same here. I said that of those running (at the time) Cruz was the worst because of his social conservative policies. I think I called him a zealot and got banned, when I tried to message the mods the same mod that banned me kept silencing my review requests every 72 hours. It was unbelievably biased for Cruz, they would ban any "wrong" types of conservatives.

[–]Throwawayzippers 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cruz was the worst because he was Ted Cruz.

[–]Tentapuss 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

At least right now the following story is trending in /r/Republican: http://www.hughhewitt.com/christian-policy-minority/#more-30835

Some of them are starting to get it, so there may be hope yet.

[–]helix400 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/Republican is veerrrrryyyy different from /r/conservative. The latter bans you at the first sign of disagreement with Ted Cruz. The former allows Republican to actually talk and disagree.

[–]mcnewbie 18ポイント19ポイント  (8子コメント)

i was banned from /r/conservative for saying that aside from the gospels, that there really wasn't much contemporary evidence for jesus' miracles.

[–]emdave 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is there any contemporary evidence? If you even accept the gospels as 'contemporary', when none have been dated till at least a few decades after his supposed death, and most long after that.

[–]TheRedGerund 42ポイント43ポイント  (6子コメント)

It's not really censorship if that's what the community is defined as. Subreddits should be allowed to direct the content of their group. It's not like you have some fundamental right to walk into someone's pro-ice cream rally and start rambling about ice cream is for assholes and brownies are the superior dessert.

Except in this case the ice cream is trickle down economics. But you get the idea. Besides the whole point is that you can easily make your own subreddit if you've got a problem.

I've never really understood why it's such a big problem to be hosting a subreddit with hate speech. I get that you don't want to be a tool for hate but technically a pencil can be used a tool for hateful ideas. I prefer Reddit being very limited in the things they ban, specifically within the scope of applicable law. Otherwise I say let it be. The community has a voting system. They can bury it if they want. Isn't that just the downside of being an open area of free communication? There's bound to be assholes.

[–]MenShouldntHaveCats 72ポイント73ポイント  (8子コメント)

A bit different in that sub moderators can chose what their content is about. You think it would be any different if you went to /r/sandersforpresident and started talking about conservative values?

But here you have reddit itself deciding what views it will allow. Having a concern over mass immigration from an area which has a very different(shall we say) view on life is a legitimate concern for many in Europe.

[–]Corax7 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not really censorship when they state in the rules that on r/conservative they will only allow conservative posts and not video games, random gifs or other political posts etc, otherwise why have a r/conservative. Just like r/Russia or r/France wants topics about them not South Africa.

[–]CranialFlatulence 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wouldn't that be the point of a subreddit about conservatism?

[–]unproperNoun 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I really don't see why people here don't understand the necessity to censor a small sub that is contrarian to 80% of this website.

If there was no censorship that sub would transform into conservative's hell overnight.

[–]coolcool23 46ポイント47ポイント  (21子コメント)

To be fair, /r/politics is defacto liberal so they're just creating their own space.

Are you arguing that subreddits shouldn't have rules enforcing that people stay on topic?

[–]Nerdlinger 78ポイント79ポイント  (10子コメント)

A blogger with an interest in numbers, who uses the name Curious Gnu, recently crunched a Reddit dataset of 4.6 million comments and noted that 78 percent of Reddit threads with over 1,000 comments mention Nazis or Hitler. The blogger found that around 2.6 percent of comments in the ‘european’ subreddit mentioned Nazis or Hitler. A slightly higher percentage of comments on the ‘AskHistorians’ subreddit mentioned Nazis or Hitler, with around 2.75 percent of comments on the ‘history’ subreddit referencing the topics.

That's some pretty impressive statistical storybuilding. Leave it to Fox News to actually include it in the story.

[–]Beegrene 41ポイント42ポイント  (5子コメント)

Notably absent from the story is the percentage of comments on reddit overall that mention Nazis or Hitler.

[–]snaredonk 599ポイント600ポイント  (176子コメント)

Reddit prohibits illegal content

Then all the drug subs have to go, same with all the subs where prostitutes like to get together to discuss their illegal activities.

[–]Last_Jedi 715ポイント716ポイント  (97子コメント)

Discussing illegal activity isn't illegal, directly facilitating it is. I guarantee you if /r/trees mods were letting pot dealers post ads, the admins would skip the quarantine and straight up ban the whole sub.

[–]Reddisaurusrekts 310ポイント311ポイント  (72子コメント)

directly facilitating it is

like /r/shoplifting ? Which literally has tips for how to beat loss prevention and law enforcement?

[–]GisterMizard 135ポイント136ポイント  (18子コメント)

Are the reddit admin aware of that sub? It might just be too tiny for them to notice.

[–]rasterbee 89ポイント90ポイント  (17子コメント)

They gotta be.

Many of the subscribers/participants in that sub are Loss Prevention workers themselves. They like to read what the new tricks are, and I'm sure at least one of them sent a PM to the admins saying "Hey, this sub is...." trying to get it closed up.

[–]GisterMizard 54ポイント55ポイント  (16子コメント)

Who wants to close up good insider information? :p

[–]rasterbee 92ポイント93ポイント  (15子コメント)

Er...yes, I browse /r/DarkNetMarkets once or a month or so when I'm bored and always wonder how many of the people are Feds pretending to be normal regular TOR drug dealers purposefully saying wrong or dumb things so that the actual people selling & mailing drugs will correct them and give out information. Same thing with /r/shoplifting. I mean I believe that Target is the worst place to shoplift from because of having read /r/shoplifting a dozen times for 30 minutes each over the past 2? years. But is it? What if Target just had a smart online presence and gave themselves that reputation?

[–]Vakieh 21ポイント22ポイント  (13子コメント)

Target US has (or at least had) a better forensic lab and investigative database than any police department. They are often consulted on major fraud and theft cases.

[–]rasterbee 28ポイント29ポイント  (8子コメント)

Good for Target? That doesn't mean they can't have a bot that notifies one of their headquarters employees that Target was mentioned on a shoplifting forum, getting them to reply with exactly what you just said here. You just said verbatim what is repeated again and again in /r/shoplifting. This is worst case paranoid scenario here though, I don't think you're an on-the-clock Target employee with the task of making posts on internet forums spreading the rumor that Target's LP is the best ever. But that would be very easy to do. Even a bot could make the comment you just made. Again, worst case paranoid scenario. You're probably not a bot. But it wouldn't be hard to make a bot that acted just like you here.

[–]Vakieh 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

Except you can verify this information yourself now that I have made the claim, using the power of SkynetGoogle.

Beep.

[–]willburshoe 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do they? Or is that just what Target wants us to think...

[–]Vakieh 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they're astroturfing they did a good job of it - they testify in court cases all the time, so at least a few judges believe them :-P

[–]Scrowley91 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

I guarantee you if /r/trees mods were letting pot dealers post ads, the admins would skip the quarantine and straight up ban the whole sub.

There are subs that do. They just don't get enough attention to get banned. I won't mention any, but there are subs that are basically storefronts for illegal products. Some might argue that those products shouldn't be illegal, but they are, so it's most certainly against reddit's rules.

[–]nakdamink 33ポイント34ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's my understanding of it as a moderator on a number of marijuana subs.

We are fine to discuss but not sell or allow the sale of goods.

How certain other subs and a couple private subs stick around I do not know.

[–]mrjackspade 96ポイント97ポイント  (39子コメント)

Got a link to the prostitute subs?

[–]AP3Brain 238ポイント239ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yeah. Fucking outrageous! Where are these disgusting subs so i can give them a piece of my mind!?

[–]Kyddeath 63ポイント64ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would also like to contact these women and explain how I am s bad boy who needs a spanking

[–]cogit4se 25ポイント26ポイント  (15子コメント)

I can't help with actual prostitution but I found what might be considered a digital prostitution sub recently;

/r/Sexsells

There's also /r/sexsellsbbw

[–]Cronus6 23ポイント24ポイント  (9子コメント)

It's also illegal to provide or show pornography to minors.

/just sayin

[–]jmcs 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit asks for your age when visiting subs marked as NSFW (porn or not), minor can lie, but they also do it on porn sites.

[–]PigNamedBenis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit will only do that if they're certain they're at the point of most drama and backlash at the moment they ban them. That way it gets them free publicity as people pitch a fit everywhere else.

[–]Nurizeko 59ポイント60ポイント  (4子コメント)

In breaking news, a privately run website moderates itself.

[–]warezMakesJesusCry 101ポイント102ポイント  (18子コメント)

Well, Fox News certainly doesn't censor their comments section. It's hard to accept that those are real people's opinions. Scary shit.

[–]HandjobSally 20ポイント21ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not sure if you're being sarcastic. But Fox News shuts off the comment section when they become overly racist all the time.

[–]pfods 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

they actually do censor their comments section. they do it frequently when there's an article about obama's wife or daughters because it's nothing but racial slurs and death threats. it's fucking disgusting and they've had to disable comments on multiple articles because of it.

[–]warezMakesJesusCry 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I just realized that was the case. What's interesting is that on those articles there doesn't seem to be a 'comments closed' notice, just a big empty space.

[–]ecafyelims 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

"A subreddit is quarantined when there are concerns that its content is extreme and could be offensive to people outside of that community," explained Reddit.

/r/blackfathers was quarantined and has no content, so this statement is false.

[–]EvilREuropeanRefugee 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Related: No censorship in Chinese Internet, says China's top censor"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. This is my fave humour.

[–]GunzGoPew 243ポイント244ポイント  (184子コメント)

Well, it's a private website. You don't have a right to freedom of speech on someone else's platform.

I'm sure someone will try to call me some sort of bastard for pointing that out, but the first amendment doesn't apply to private companies or individuals.

[–]afleeceblanket 137ポイント138ポイント  (68子コメント)

Bastard!

Now that that's out of the way, yes, all true. There was a point, though, in Reddit's history when the founders/other admins touted the place as a bastion of free speech. But of course, it's their site, they can do whatever the hell the fell like.

edit- since downvoters can't be bothered to use their brains,

Ohanian talks to Forbes about the future of politics and Reddit's recent blackout protest against SOPA — it's widely credited with helping kill the widely loathed anti-piracy bill. He's asked what the Founding Fathers would think about his site.

"A bastion of free speech on the World Wide Web? I bet they would like it," he replies. It's the digital form of political pamphlets.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/15/8964995/reddit-free-speech-history

[–]JohnQAnon 47ポイント48ポイント  (12子コメント)

Can confirm. Reddit mentioned they were a 'free speech platform' on their own rule page. They removed this right around the time FPH was banned.

[–]Insetick 68ポイント69ポイント  (44子コメント)

I think touting free speech worked up until reddit started attracting lots of undesirables. voat is all about that free speech, and it isn't hard to see what kind of people it attracts

[–]AdvonKoulthar 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

Perhaps it isn't because it attracts these people, but because Reddit basically kicked them out? That's essentially just taking what was considered the very worst and dumping it all in one place.
Also, declaring viewpoints as 'undesirable' only serves to entrench viewpoints. Maybe Reddit isn't playing the long game, but what about after they've gotten rid of subs and users they think of as undesirable? A few years on, opinions will shift, and it will all be shouting into an echo chamber.

[–]Dung_Poo_Fighter 78ポイント79ポイント  (5子コメント)

As /u/afleeceblanket said, they did build themselves up as an outlet for free speech and a platform against censorship. Yes, you are technically right that people do not have a right to free speech on a private platform, however that doesn't mean that there isn't hypocrisy involved here.

[–]FuckingShitty_Reddit 35ポイント36ポイント  (2子コメント)

The first amendment wasn't mentioned anywhere in the article. Just because something is legal doesn't mean they can't be criticised for it.

[–]MG87 60ポイント61ポイント  (18子コメント)

Not one mention of the kind of shitbags that populated that sub