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/r/allThe Mercedes TAKE EACH OTHER OUT! (self.formula1)

Sebastian VettelxHe4DHunt3r が 投稿

Holy shit!
Edit: GIF courtesy of /u/BottasWMR : https://streamable.com/ghec

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[–]chandlertribbiani 181ポイント182ポイント  (5子コメント)

Post race interviews should be interesting!

[–]Paul di Restagamerme 61ポイント62ポイント  (2子コメント)

We won't have to wait for that. Probably during the race

[–]Sebastian VettelBillygotTalent 46ポイント47ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rosberg and Ham probably already in the shower and in the plane home during the race.

[–]Martin_Schanche 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

have to see the stewards, no running away just yet

[–]Rockmart 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi-jacking top comment to post strawpoll on the incident:

http://www.strawpoll.me/10217904

(hope that's ok, just interested in people's opinions)

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    [–]Red Bullxlnqeniuz 75ポイント76ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Turkey 2010

    Spain 2016

    This is amazing, this is why I watch F1.

    [–]Cosmicmonkii 99ポイント100ポイント  (5子コメント)

    All Mercedes pit crew: https://38.media.tumblr.com/93a8b37a704f8403e02e4cc5f71cef9c/tumblr_inline_o33nojy4TU1tm2f6m_540.gif

    [–]TaeTaeDS 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Thanks for the laugh after a bad day man.

    [–]Cosmicmonkii 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Glad to help! Thought it was so accurate I had to make it its own post. Screw the karma, I can totally see them getting the hell out of there.

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        [–]Max VerstappenUnfaded 126ポイント127ポイント  (27子コメント)

        Max Verstappen's first podium?

        [–]brokenlightszs 50ポイント51ポイント  (10子コメント)

        Inb4 Kvyat takes him down.

        [–]slaming 30ポイント31ポイント  (9子コメント)

        Do redbull have any stakes in a GP2 team to demote him to?

        [–]Lewis Hamiltonladekoya 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Gasly and Kvyat seat swap pending.

        [–]Pirelli Ultra Softhookahreed 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

        He can drive one of those Red Bull Mini Coopers and hand out free cans on campus.

        [–]LefthandedLunatic 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        They had a nascar team. Thinking about it Kvyat would fit quite well in that.

        [–]Mike HawthornPawy_beingretard247 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Still a long way to go for him.

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          [–]Paul di Restagamerme 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Long way to go.

          [–]Romain Grosjeanjeffykins 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          History in the making

          [–]Brawn GPtwitch135 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

          I'd be very happy for Max and RedBull but it will make this subreddit completely insufferable.

          [–]Mika Häkkinenfrayesto 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

          I'm not a fan of the chosen ones, but VES is at least backing up the accolades with good driving

          [–]Red Bullxlnqeniuz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          He could take it all, what a day.

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            [–]not_king_joffrey 114ポイント115ポイント  (5子コメント)

            As a Verstappen fan, I'm cheering. As a drama fan, I'm almost crying of joy.

            [–]Martin_Schanche 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

            bingo. drama fan this will go on for years, longer than spa

            [–]Eurotriangle 81ポイント82ポイント  (8子コメント)

            That steering wheel launch though.

            [–]Romain GrosjeanStone4D 62ポイント63ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Excellent form, great airtime and distance. Overall I give it a 9/10.

            [–]Valtteri BottasBottasWMR 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

            https://streamable.com/a8kh

            [–]Guernsey_mike 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Reminds me of Barichello in Monaco after the drain cover incident

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              [–]Dawgsie[🍰] 35ポイント36ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Can you imagine how loudly the Merc social media guy shouted FUUUUUUCK when this happened?

              [–]rusolive 86ポイント87ポイント  (6子コメント)

              I've been waiting so long for this to happen!!! Danny Ric for the win

              [–]Romain GrosjeanBhenny_5 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

              It could even be Verstapen! I'm rooting for Ric though.

              [–]ImPradaOfYou 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Vettel will wake up and will take 2nd or 1st

              [–]captainkrinking 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I say 2 Ferrari on the podium

              [–]Jim Clarkvprakhov 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Daniel has been fantastic but unlucky this year.

              Definitely deserves it. Come on, mate!!!

              [–]Red Bullnicknewpants 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Exactly what I said to myself!

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                [–]djedwardsmith 111ポイント112ポイント  (20子コメント)

                Rosberg swerved wildly to cover Hamilton who probably carried more speed than he expected. Probably just about go down as a racing incident rather than anything that requires a reprimand for either driver.

                [–]Pat_Sharp 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Yeh, I'd say racing incident. Hamilton wasn't alongside yet so I think Rosberg was entitled to move over, but the speed differential was so big and Hamilton was totally committed to going to the inside so when Rosberg moved over he could only go to the grass or run into the back of him.

                [–]Aybarand 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                It's not so much that he wasn't alongside him that bothers me, it was the fact that Rosberg moved into the path of a car clearly going much faster than him. What's the difference between that and doing a brake test? It was a twat move, and he's done it before (Alonso, Bahrain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAJ9ysCD7nI).

                Quick edit: I think today was much worse than the incident I've included, at least in the video you could try and argue him defending his position, but against Hamilton... he didn't want to leave him on the track. First fucking lap, too.

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                  [–]Kimi RäikkönenPersonMcGuy 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Glad to see this is a relatively high up opinion. It really does look like a racing incident, Hamilton was arguably close enough to challenge but it's by no means definite. Simultaneously Hamilton had so much speed that Rosberg's move guaranteed the crash whether or not it was legal. There's blame on both halves.

                  [–]tjsr 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  It's bullshit that this kind of thing has for the past few years considered acceptable 'racing'. Running an opponent out of room, whether it's like this, or this bullshit of "racing line" having some kind of right of way - both are equally fucked. If there's another car on the inside (or outside) within the boundaries of the track, regardless of how the got there, regardless of whether or not they've braked late, tough shit, you have to allow them to stay there. THAT is racing, not this bullshit of crying "but I had the racing line" when someone dives down the inside and disallows you from hitting the Apex. Stuff like this is Jo different - cutting someone off when they're about to pass you? That's just fucked, if allowed. 15 years ago racing was like that. We've seen it morph to the bullshit we have now.

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                    [–]zagreus9 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Someone get a gif of that /U/bottaswmr

                    [–]Daniel RicciardoDaroxic 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Sainz in 3rd!! Red Bull/Toro Rosso HYPE

                    [–]Lewis Hamiltonahatzum 25ポイント26ポイント  (6子コメント)

                    For anyone wondering, this is the relevant part of the regulations (article 27.7):

                    Any driver defending his position on a straight, and before any braking area, may use the full width of the track during his first move, provided no significant portion of the car attempting to pass is alongside his. Whilst defending in this way the driver may not leave the track without justifiable reason.

                    For the avoidance of doubt, if any part of the front wing of the car attempting to pass is alongside the rear wheel of the car in front this will be deemed to be a ‘significant portion’.

                    [–]Martin BrundleCarnivorousCumquat 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    Lewis' front wing was alongside therefore I see this as nico not leaving the space.

                    [–]Martin_Schanche 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    nico not leaving the space.

                    Not for the first time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_sMZG0MLcc

                    [–]Sebastian Vettelkrische 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Lewis' front wing was alongside therefore I see this as nico not leaving the space leave a da space.

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                        [–]Sebastian Vettelthepeopleschamp1on 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I started screaming in the house, and my mother ran in thinking I had died.

                        [–]Jarno Trulliabstractabs 51ポイント52ポイント  (8子コメント)

                        Lewis was flying through that corner, had to go for the overtake. Looked like they pulled right at pretty much the same time.

                        Anyway, drama ftw.

                        [–]Paul di Restagamerme 15ポイント16ポイント  (22子コメント)

                        Who's fault was that in the end ?

                        [–]Fernando AlonsoAlopolis 16ポイント17ポイント  (8子コメント)

                        I'd say 50/50. Rosberg should've left him space, but he was probably caught out by the closing speed.

                        Hamilton was very aggressive, especially on his team-mate on lap 1. If there was a wall there would he have been so aggressive? He placed a lot of trust (too much IMO) on Nico essentially giving him the inside line and yielding first place.

                        [–]Lord_Meowington 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        You're right but shouldn't that trust extend to all drivers? Courtesy dictates you leave a cars width. Rosberg was caught out with how quick Hamilton caught him but he's entitled to go for the overtake.

                        [–]Fernando AlonsoAlopolis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        They're fighting for the title. Emotions and dynamics are going to be differerent that if he was trying to pass lets say Vettel or Alonso. Everybody knows Spain is difficult to pass on and as a result, if Nico gave up the inside line, he's essentially yielding first place.

                        Rosberg went across too late to cover him, but I don't think Rosberg was entitled to give him a cars width. To me, it looked like Hamilton only truly started to get alongside as he was running out of road and getting onto the grass. If there was a wall he wouldn't have had that chance.

                        [–]tomarr 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Car width when side by side, not when still behind like Ham was. It was just the difference in speed that caught them out

                        [–]Lewis Hamiltonblackbird37 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        https://i.imgur.com/Jb7l807.jpg

                        You were saying about Hamilton being behind? If Rosberg doesn't go more right at this point, there's no crash.

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                          [–]SpinningGlobe 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

                          Hamilton.

                          [–]Sebastian Vettelcolacastell 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Niki Lauda just seconded this on Sky Germany.

                          [–]smoobandit 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          remarkable statement. if you are going to force another car off the track at high speed, you run the risk that it comes back on out of control and smashes you into the gravel at the next braking zone.

                          Had a sense of schumacher on barichello at the hungaroring a few years ago, and pretty much no one thought that schumacher's move was clean.

                          [–]crazy__world 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Rosberg. Hamilton had earned a cars width of space as he had a front alongside Rosberg rear tyre

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                            [–]Brawn GPKsanti 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            About 80/20 Rosberg/Hamilton. Lewis /could/ have backed out but equally Rosberg swiped across Hamilton who was much faster and ultimately got alongside. It was a needlessly aggressive swerve from Rosberg far too late to be justifiable

                            [–]Giuseppe FarinaValodiaDeSeynes 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Rosberg swiped across Hamilton who was much faster

                            That's the key part there. He didn't expect Hamilton to come out of the corner so fast and though he had more time to cover. I wouldn't blame any of them.

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                                [–]jimaha 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                well theres skys 2017 intro sorted

                                [–]Lewis HamiltonEnginair 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                NICO HIT ME

                                [–]Fernando AlonsoAlopolis 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                I think thats 50/50 imo. Rosberg covered him too late and I think he was surprised by the closing speed.

                                That being said, if there was a wall there would Hamilton have tried to send one up the inside? I think he placed a hell of alot of trust in Rosberg to give him space.

                                [–]Mika Häkkinendaf001 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                This seems like a dream... I still can't believe that happened...

                                [–]anduim 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                What do you think?

                                [–]Sebastian VettelxHe4DHunt3r[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                Hamilton is BEHIND Rosberg, so it's his fault for trying to overtake there.

                                [–]Jenson ButtonUnited1892 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                This makes no sense, everyone who tries to overtake is behind...

                                Look at image 2, Lewis' front wheels are level with Nico's rear wheels before the gap is closed.

                                The rules state that if ANY part of the car is alongside, a car's width must be left.

                                [–]bamburito 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Absolutely

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                                    [–]Valtteri BottasLuckyBG 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    Lauda blaming Lewis for it... very interesting.

                                    [–]rickbus 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    At least we have some drama this year :)

                                    [–]FerraristeelBlind 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    you always leave a da space!

                                    [–]RajizZY 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Racing incident?

                                    [–]Boffdog 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    We need this screenshot for the sidebar when we come here for the 2017 race, what a glorious moment, both in the gravel

                                    [–]hoeyster1998 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Mercedes FB page will be interesting after the race. I'm expecting some comments like "Sack Nico pls and hire Alonso" and "Cheatberg does it again"

                                    [–]Nico HülkenbergGluecksritter90 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Lauda putting the blame on Hamilton on RTL.

                                    [–]Sebastian VettelLoveTheTeabags 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Lauda says Hamilton is at fault.

                                    [–]llamaesque 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Lauda reckons it was Hamilton's fault

                                    [–]Sebastian VettelRomanCessna 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    FUCK. YES.

                                    [–]Daniel RicciardoDaroxic 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    where's the team radio? surely there would be some

                                    [–]Max VerstappenKingDoki 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Remember kids always perform a takeover on the left side!

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                                    [–]BrabhamBrooney 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    /u/xHe4DHunt3r

                                    Fill in stuff about the situation and why it's a big deal, we've hit /r/All :) Might wanna inform people

                                    [–]Sebastian VettelMRSA9 22ポイント23ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                    Lauda just said on austrian TV that it is Lewis' fault cause he tried to overtake where it is not possible.

                                    Unacceptable, he said.

                                    [–]Wompie 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    When was the last time Lauda said anything that wasn't completely over the top and unreasonable? He said the safety devices are ruining F1 a couple weeks ago.

                                    [–]Blodyck 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    well he was overtaking him, so how can it not be possible?

                                    [–]Sebastian VettelMRSA9 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Well he crashed and didn't overtake.

                                    Whatever I was just quoting

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                                      [–]Lewis HamiltonLionh34rt 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Bernie: I want to stop Merc domination, I have bombs in my pocket.

                                      [–]Daniel RicciardoOvaltine-Jenkins 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      If Hamilton had been in front and covered that move, Sky would be kissing his ass about how a great 'aggressive defensive move' it was.

                                      [–]McLarenlittletamz 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      "Hamilton swaps seats with Wehrlein" coming in tomorrow's papers /s

                                      just praying the Mclarens can get some good points now

                                      [–]Sebastian Vettelcrimsdings 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Lauda on austtian tv just said hamilton 100% at fault ...

                                      [–]Kamui Kobayashizantkiller 71ポイント72ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                      Lewis should have backed out of that.

                                      He never had that.

                                      [–]Stefan Belloffluter_ 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      If it works (like Vettel vs Alonso in Monza few years ago) it's a great move, but it's still very high risk. Lewis definitively could have avoided that

                                      [–]Brawn GPKsanti 17ポイント18ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                      Never had that? What? He was much faster and Rosberg shoved him off when Hamilton had his wheels alongside. This isn't nascar he'd earned the space

                                      [–]Fernando Alonsovaltteri_buttass 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      lol, in NASCAR he would have been given space. Don't understand this comparison

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                                        [–]Pake1000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Lewis should have backed out? Rosberg shouldn't be blocking his teammate on lap 1 by going so far out of the racing line. Rosberg needs to be punished by FIA.

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                                          [–]MrSonyCity 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Oh Scheisse!

                                          [–]Garfie489 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          News just in - Bernie is considdering eliminating both Mercs every race after the usually boring Barcelona

                                          [–]Lewis Hamiltonminiq 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          "20.4 Any driver defending his position on a straight, and before any braking area, may use the full width of the track during his first move, provided no significant portion of the car attempting to pass is alongside his. For the avoidance of doubt, if any part of the front wing of the car attempting to pass is alongside the rear wheel of the car in front this will be deemed to be a 'significant portion'."

                                          You can't give Lewis more than 50% of the blame.

                                          [–]Ferrarichavz25 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          Verstappen podium confirmed!

                                          [–]Mercedestali214 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I put the blame on Lewis he never had a chance and Nico has a right to change lanes once which he did. He closed a door Lewis should have backed out of.

                                          [–]xjagerx 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          Racing incident. Big, unexpected speed difference. Cars trip over each other. It happens. It's just delicious drama because they're the two Merc cars.

                                          That said... I can't help but think that Lewis shouldn't have kept his foot down on the grass. It was a racing situation that put them there, but Lewis being more worried about keeping the move on than getting his car back on the black stuff...

                                          [–]Fernando Alonsoalex_dlc 15ポイント16ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                          As always, Hamilton taking extremely unnecessary risks. Such an impatient driver.

                                          [–]Lord_Meowington 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                          I don't know about that. He had the pace. Saw the gap. Rosberg closed the door. If you're a racing driver unwilling to take an opportunity then you're just a driver.

                                          [–]odc100 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          Is a pass to take P1 unnecessary? Motorsport is not for you.

                                          He had a gap, went for it completely legitimately, and Nico slammed the door.

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                                            [–]NewsonLAD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Well that was dramatic!

                                            [–]Sebastian VettelSharkSugarr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Well this will be talked about for awhile haha

                                            [–]Sebastian Vettelgama1337 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            We have a proper race now.

                                            [–]GONIX91 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            GREAT opportunity for MAX!

                                            [–]MercedesRusticRusty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Post race interviews are going to be interesting, plus great shots of Dieter Zetsche just shaking his head in disbelieve

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                                            [–]Sebastian VettelxHe4DHunt3r[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Hamilton's fault confirmed. /s

                                            [–]Daniel Ricciardonekomaster42 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Yesss! Go Danny Ricciardo!

                                            [–]fuckyoueric 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            hamilton probably saw the lmp1 pass on the grass last weekend and wanted to try it out himself :)

                                            [–]Damon Hillchicken_and_ham 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Interesting to note that it looks like the sensors that take the race order at the end of S1, don't seem to pick up HAM as he is so far wide. You can see it displays RIC as second as the crash is unfolding.

                                            [–]BrabhamBrooney 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            The Ferrari's are storming :(

                                            [–]Sebastian VettelShuri9 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Vettel closing up fast and great job by Verstappen keeping up with Ricciardo.

                                            [–]ianjm 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            You could see how angry they were even with their helmets on. Honestly wondered if Lewis was gonna get out the car and go Piquet on his Salazar.

                                            [–]Pirelli Ultra Softliterallyliteral420 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            meme magic

                                            [–]csdevil 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Imagine this happening in the 90's! The fight between them would be an spectacle by itself! Mercedes motor home is looking like a funeral!

                                            [–]csdevil 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Everyone is disputing the "new Maldonado" title!

                                            [–]Daniel Ricciardocrimson-adl 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Gawd Lauder has to get involved in everything doesn't he.

                                            Old man yelling at clouds

                                            [–]MercedesChuckS117 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            And everyone else is clapping.

                                            [–]Rockmart 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Strawpoll on the incident: http://www.strawpoll.me/10217904

                                            Seems VERY split at the moment!

                                            [–]Haasjohnnyracer24 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Holy cow. This hit /r/all quickly. Prepare for people asking what this means.

                                            [–]mallamparty 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Lauda just said in an interview that in his opinion it's Lewis' fault.

                                            [–]Sebastian VettelBlizzardShot 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            All the drivers block each other in that way, but for some reason Hamilton went on to the grass instead of slamming on the brakes

                                            [–]Krispwee 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqbljq_f1-bahrain-2012-rosberg-hamilton-and-rosberg-alonso-situation_sport

                                            Rosberg has previous for pulling that kind of shit, Bahrain 2012

                                            [–]Daniel Ricciardoauxenough 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Niki Lauda blames Lewis. Always pragmatic

                                            [–]bidaum92 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            https://streamable.com/m3jq

                                            Rosberg made the defending move off the racing line at the same time hamilton went to overtake, way before hamilton had his wing up against Rosbergs rear wheel.

                                            Hamilton was carrying too much speed and caused the accident....

                                            [–]David Coulthardlo9rd 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            One car width.

                                            [–]JimmerUK 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            This is the only necessary comment.

                                            All a da time, you have to leave da space'

                                            [–]this_sort_of_thing 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                            So spoilers isn't a thing anymore?

                                            [–]Nigel Manselltonyinchpractice 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Hasn't been for a while (in fact there was only a brief experiment with a "no spoilers" rule on this sub). The rules are published, not sure why you're getting upvoted.

                                            [–]Romain Grosjean2722010 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Ready for a Verstappen podium? Quite likely now.

                                            [–]Jean Alesilatecherry 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            If the team sides with Rosberg in the same way that they did with Hamilton after Spa 2014 then Rosberg will walk the championship.

                                            [–]Lewis Hamiltonedw_anderson 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Just racing incident IMO

                                            [–]BHRx 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I paused at the last bit Hamilton had space, Rosberg was already way on the inside and Hamilton's front wing wasn't alongside Rosberg's rear tyre. Definitely Hamilton's fault.

                                            [–]xtrmx 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                            So tired of Brundles biased commentary. No way Lewis was 'alongside him with his front wheel', not even close.

                                            [–]McLarenalexthecheese 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            http://i.imgur.com/Jb7l807.jpg

                                            [–]rushawa20 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Chandok thinks so too.

                                            [–]Lewis Hamiltonblackbird37 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Well you should watch the replay again, because that's literally what happened.

                                            [–]Fernando Alonsojg_92_F1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Then watch channel 4.

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                                              [–]UnpredictedArrival 11ポイント12ポイント  (55子コメント)

                                              Wtf is Rosberg doing tho? He pulled wayy too far over

                                              [–]Stefan Belloffluter_ 68ポイント69ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                              Nico has the right to pull to the right, Lewis didnt need to pull onto the grass at full speed, he could have avoided it

                                              [–]Defiant_toast 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Rosberg has the right to defend, however he isn't aloud to drive a car off the track, he is supposed to leave 1 car space. If you also look at his position in the breaking zone, he moved twice. The rules say you can't move twice in the breaking zone.

                                              [–]AdamDaze 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Its still a dick move toyour team mate when you're 1-2 at turn 3 opening lap

                                              [–]roxwar 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                              One car width rule. Nico went too far right and forced Lewis onto the grass. Not saying it's 100% on Nico but his right tyres were about 2inch from the grass, nowhere close to a car width.

                                              [–]Jules BianchiPerry92 23ポイント24ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                              No he couldn't of. Lewis's nose was past rosbergs rear end. Look up the rules.

                                              [–]smoobandit 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              20.4 Any driver defending his position on a straight, and before any braking area, may use the full width of the track during his first move, provided no significant portion of the car attempting to pass is alongside his. Whilst defending in this way the driver may not leave the track without justifiable reason. For the avoidance of doubt, if any part of the front wing of the car attempting to pass is alongside the rear wheel of the car in front this will be deemed to be a ‘significant portion’.

                                              20.5 Manoeuvres liable to hinder other drivers, such as deliberate crowding of a car beyond the edge of the track or any other abnormal change of direction, are not permitted.

                                              [–]Fernando AlonsoB-U-B-Z 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE! ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE!

                                              [–]Nigel MansellMcGubbins 23ポイント24ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                              If Lewis' nose was past Rosberg's rear end, there would have been contact when Rosberg flicked right. There was no contact, so Lewis cannot have been alongside.

                                              The overhead shot was conclusive.

                                              [–]smoobandit 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                              there was no contact because hamilton avoided it by driving onto the grass. if he had held the line there would have been contact at that point.

                                              [–]Nigel MansellMcGubbins 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Instead of driving onto the grass, braking would have kept Hamilton in the race.

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                                                [–]Korvacs 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                There was no contact because Hamilton took to the grass to avoid contact.

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                                                  [–]Brawn GPKsanti 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                  Nico had no right to push Hamilton onto the grass - Hamilton got alongside before he went off and thus earned the right to a cars width of space

                                                  [–]Stefan Belloffluter_ 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                  Nico started moving the right the moment he came out of the corner and Lewis followed that line till the end. It's not like Nico only moved to the right when Lewis was next to him

                                                  [–]Brawn GPKsanti 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  Doesn't matter if he was coming over before, once Hamilton got alongside he had to stop, strictly speaking.

                                                  Really it's just a racing incident but I can't see any argument for saying it's fully hamilton's fault or Rosberg was okay to run him off the road.

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                                                      [–]Sebastian Vettelcolacastell 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      The question is whether this happened while Hamilton was already next to him or not. It's a close call. It was extremely risky by Rosberg, and Hamilton could've seen that this happens.

                                                      [–]Kimi RäikkönenCookiezFort 7ポイント8ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                      Fair move, Nico had the right to get a defensive line, HAM was not alongside him but behind him.

                                                      But hamilton seemed to think the race is won on the first lap.

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                                                        [–]petersutcliff 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                        Fuck sake. It really pains me to say this but that's Hamilton's fault. Of course Rosberg is going to squeeze him there. Hamilton is bloody lucky he took Rosberg out with him because for me that's pretty much championship over if Rosberg gets another 25 points. Having said that Hamilton could be penalised enough that it might put him further behind anyway.

                                                        Jesus what was he thinking.

                                                        [–]Andrea ModaLukeno94 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                        What on earth was Rosberg doing? He swerved across the track, taking himself well off the racing line, and caused the collision.

                                                        [–]Poocannon 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        Ever heard of closing the door against an overtake ?

                                                        [–]mmaybachmusic 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                        defending his position.

                                                        [–]Andrea ModaLukeno94 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        By swerving across the track dramatically without looking?

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                                                          [–]AMak10 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                          Sky trying to put all the blame on Rosberg lmao

                                                          [–]MercedesBlinkinage 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                          They were saying HAM's nose was beside rosberg's front wheel, it clearly wasn't.

                                                          [–]crazy__world 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          This image clearly shows Hamilton's nose was alongside the rear wheel of Rosberg. According to sporting regulation 20.4 (not the proper wording) if a car has a piece of front wing alongside the rear wheel of a car in front they earn a cars width worth of space

                                                          https://i.imgur.com/Jb7l807.jpg

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                                                            [–]Ayrton SennaZackman558 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            To those on r/all who have stumbled upon this post: Lewis Hamilton and the Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula 1 team are the current champions of F1. Mercedes had the opportunity to have a perfect season. This is no longer the case after this crash. Hamilton crashed into his teammate, and current points leader in the drivers championship, Nick Rosberg. In simpler terms, imagine if Tom Brady got sacked by his own linemen. Or if Messi got high booted by Pique in the penalty box on open goal.

                                                            [–]Fernando AlonsoSJHarrison1992 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                            All the Hamilton fanboys need to get a grip, if it was the other way around would you say Hamilton should have left him room?

                                                            [–]FerrariStinkyFeetPatrol 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            NICO HIT ME NICO HIT ME

                                                            [–]myurr -4ポイント-3ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                            100% Rosberg's fault. Hamilton had the run, was alongside, and Rosberg swerved to the right to try and block him but was too late and pushed him off the track.

                                                            [–]Karuramon 18ポイント19ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                            lmao. That's his right. You can change lanes once. Hamilton had to break, but instead acted like a child and endangoured everyone by going on the green.

                                                            [–]Lewis Hamiltonthrowaway_time 28ポイント29ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                            What about the one car-width rule?

                                                            [–]myurr 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Quite. And Rosberg has form on this with his incidents at Bahrain a couple of years ago for which he was warned. Hamilton was closing at too great a speed to swerve in front of him like that.

                                                            [–]António Félix da Costaayyy__ 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                            Rule applies if Hamilton has his front wing side by side with Rosberg's rear tire. Not sure if that's the case.

                                                            [–]Lewis Hamiltonthrowaway_time 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            It was, according to the C4 team.

                                                            [–]Mika HäkkinenCheeseMakerThing 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            Looks like Hamilton just got his wing alongside.

                                                            [–]Korvacs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            It was definitely the case.

                                                            [–]myurr 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            DC said that he was alongside. Either way the speed differential was far too fast for Rosberg to swerve across like that. If you watch the replay Rosberg swerved just as Hamilton was pulling out from behind him leaving him with nowhere to go.

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                                                              [–]myurr 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Not to crowd another car off the track and no amount of downvoting will change that.

                                                              [–]Sebastian Vettelcolacastell 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Exactly. Lauda just said the same thing. Obviously Rosberg's move was causal too, but Hamilton made the whole thing blow up. He could've known Rosberg would switch, and he went on the green. What a shame.

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                                                                [–]hansl0l 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Wow this is a horrible way for them both to go out, feel for Hamilton

                                                                [–]Jenson Buttonfulgaraverde 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                I have no idea how that could in any way be Rosberg's fault, but the tv guys seem determined not to blame Lewis... Your bias is showing Sky.

                                                                [–]Lewis HamiltonDaleyT 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Because you have to leave a cars width.

                                                                [–]Max Verstappennorrihsun 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                MAAAAAAAXXXXXXXX

                                                                [–]Kimi RäikkönenMcquiz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Racing incident I say. Rosberg was entitled to defend but he perhaps should've left some room, he didn't because probably he didn't realise the closing speed that Hamilton had.

                                                                Hamilton meanwhile although he had a good run on Rosberg it is a risky place especially on lap 1. He was too agressive and should've seen the space disappearing before it did and gone on the outside instead.

                                                                [–]Lewis HamiltonPeterG92 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                What an awful season for Hamilton

                                                                [–]gusti123 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                Coming from /r/All. Could someone explain to me why he thought it would be a good idea to pass on the inside right before a turn?

                                                                [–]Honda Racinghopenoonefindsthis 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                The best place to position your car for an overtake is the inside of a corner. It forces your opponent to go around the outside, which is a longer route around a corner.

                                                                [–]HS007 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Crazy, so crazy.

                                                                Both drivers will have to take some portion of the blame, but unlike Sky, I seriously don't think you can pass off the majority blame to Nico.

                                                                Yes, Nico probably moved across aggressively, but as the lead car he was entitled to defend his position.

                                                                Lewis on the other hand.... I am not sure what gap he was going for there. He was always gonna get squeezed on the inside even if Nico hadn't moved across. More than anything, that looked like a desperate lunge.

                                                                Kinda starting to think Vettel had it right. The race is much longer than the first few corners guys. Smh

                                                                [–]Williamsgavingav1 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                They are supposed to be working towards the world championship, what a stupid action .

                                                                [–]minusoneovertwelve -2ポイント-1ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                This must be the biggest team-crash since Turkey 2010, I wonder who will cop the blame for that. 100% Rosberg's fault IMO, for once I actually feel sorry for Hamilton.

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