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Even if you want to claim that plants "feel" pain, it's a huge and unscientific leap to think they feel pain equally to a pig or cow. If I set in front of someone a carrot and a dog, and told them that they could either stab the dog or chop the carrot, they're going to choose to cut the carrot and spare the dog. And that's not hypocritical, it's basing moral consideration on the sentience of the being.
We have to eat plants. Humans can't survive without eating plants. That's not the case with animals, we can choose not to eat them.
Even if you want to give moral consideration to plants because you think they feel pain, then you would still be better off on a vegan diet than an omnivorous one. It takes more plants to fuel a meat-eating diet than a vegan one because the animals you eat also had to eat plants. In fact, at least 50% of grain harvested worldwide goes to feed livestock, not people. Cut out the middle man there and you kill fewer plants and animals.

Not that it should make any difference to you whether plants feel pain if pain is irrelevant to moral consideration and morality is just personal judgement.

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Would you argue that, if you have a biological predisposed need to have an affair, that's morally okay?

We'll cross that imaginary rainbow bridge when we get there.

Or would you argue that's not a biological need?

Of course having an affair is not a biological need. It's a "want". Also, if you were to have an affair, I wouldn't go telling you it's amoral. That's none of my business and I'm not a busybody.

If so, why does the difference matter?

Because you're asking people to go pretty far, educate themselves very well on nutritional alternatives, how to monitor your own nutritional health, and to add dietary supplements to their diet. And for what? What gain does that give them? Nothing, honestly.

A solid majority of the population isn't even smart enough to properly handle a vegan diet. In that sense, preaching veganism is amoral, but whatever... it's not like people can't just go out and eat meat. If someone gets sick because they go vegan improperly then I guess that's just on them.

Me, I'm having a big fat steak tonight. I'm actually on a High-Fat, Low-Carb diet and have been for a couple years. I doubt I could live this healthily if I was vegan. HFLC is almost impossible to maintain vegan.

(In case you don't know, HFLC has a high success rate at treating Bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and epilepsy, and researchers are still working out why as the mechanisms may lead to better treatments for those ailments. It also improves heart and blood health and is a fantastic weight management tool. )

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