What is ENTJ's better nature?

wolfdreams01 · 1日前

I think every ENTJ in some way embodies a vision of a better world. This is not unusual, of course - pretty much every human being dreams of a better world. What makes ENTJs special is that we personify it. We are the most likely to bring our better world into existence because we are the personality type most willing to do whatever it takes to make our vision come true. And what use are other people's visions of a better world if they lack the practical skills to bring those visions into existence?

The thing about positive change is that it's difficult and often painful, because the powers that be are always invested in the status quo and do not want to let change happen. In other words, sometimes in order to make a better world, people need to get hurt. Take democracy, for instance. It's a beautiful thing, but it took effort and death and sacrifice. Thomas Jefferson said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Do you think a group of INFPs ("the mediator" archetype) could have masterminded the American revolution? Their slogan would probably be something like "Give us liberty or not, whichever is more convenient for all parties concerned." What about ENFPs? They would never have the organizational skills to make it happen. Of all the personality types, INTJs would probably come the closest to having the ruthlessness and strategic thinking needed, but they lack the charisma to bring people together and lead them under a unified banner.

On some level, every well-developed ENTJ is a general (our archetype is nicknamed "the Commander" for a reason), and that's why you need us. Because whether you like it or not, the world is full of conflict, and great causes need somebody who is comfortable in that environment.

happif33t · 1日前

I think being driven in itself is quite admirable, maybe not in the humanitarian "I want to make a difference in people's lives" way that drives INFJs, but definitely in the "I want to make a difference period" way. Not many people can claim the same amount of sheer dedication, willpower, and ability to delay gratification. They have a vision and they actually get off their butts to implement it in a way that maximally affects the world, they find impractical things useless, so most of their actions have a purpose.

ENTJs are loyal to a select few. I've never felt it as strongly from anyone else - they embody it to the core. I trust my ENTJ without question, and that's saying a lot because I overthink everything as an INFJ, including people's motives. It took me a while to understand the "what you see is what you get" nature of our relationship.

ENTJs know how to have fun. That tertiary Se crops up once in a while. I love that mine is never afraid to try new things and when he does, he goes all out. Spicy food? Ends up near hospitalized. Out with friends? Somehow ends up back home without remembering how, sleeps 3 hours and goes to work the next day like nothing happened. Marathon for fun? Sets a personal record that makes his runner friends weep.

Oh and ENTJs have rare moments of vulnerability. These moments are so rare and sincere that it makes you want to rub their soft bellies.

The video was great, looking forward to seeing which parts resonate with ENTJs. I know which parts resonate with me!

I'm done :)

SooyoungSone · 1日前

I think people can agree that ENTJs dislike injustice. I feel that ENTJs are great to when it comes to be neutral in fights between friends etc. as well as standing up for the ''little guys''

TheIronIcarus · 1日前

When I think of a speech that best reflects my own perspective as an ENTJ, I always think of Glengarry Glen Ross. I believe that if one wants to change something, or to be someone in this world you must have the strength of character to confront the issues, embrace the challenges and inspire others to a common goal.

I wish I could tell you I have sympathy for the ones that straggle behind, the ones who cannot keep up. Truth be told I want all people to become the best versions of themselves, and help lead the world to a better future. Yet when I see these students commenting on "Safe Spaces" being needed, racial prejudices ruling mindsets, and people growing ever fearful of offending others by asking the questions that need to be asked... The first thought that comes to mind is to take them out back and put a bullet in their brain. Better that than to let this perspective rule our future.

Onto answering your question. I cannot speak my other ENTJ's, but I care very much for those who can work their hardest even when the cards aren't in their favor. I care for my family and friends who have helped me grow to who I am today/and can help me further understand and gain knowledge about the world, and I care for making this world better than it was when I arrived.

Thank you for your time

Vederation · 1日前

ENTJs do something because it needs to be done, regardless of whether or not it is perceived as noble. That could be why ENTJs scored high on EQ based on a research, because it's the act itself that counts and ENTJs thrive on making the precise moves to respond to the situation, again, REGARDLESS of whether or not it is perceived as "good".

Here is one of the example: awhile back, I found an older woman in a train station who were lost, worried, had no idea how to commute around, and spoke little English. Being classified in such a "sociopath" type, did I ditch her or laugh at her for being so unprepared? No. Did I tell her the direction and left her alone? Not quite. I did all I can to locate her destination, the bus schedules, and how many miles it would take to reach her destination. I told her to sit calmly while I bounced around asking for bus drivers for directions, so I stayed with her all the way until her bus took her off from the station. We talked while waiting and she kept stating how grateful she was for bumping onto me. Honestly, her satisfaction did make me feel great but it didn't affect me much, because my response to the situation was correct and sending her home safely was all that mattered to me at that point.

With that said, ENTJs aren't dreamers who would try to sway you with paragraphs full of encouragement and pure idealism; ENTJs are people of action and, for me, making precise move is everything -- that also goes with humanitarianism. When you think of world peace, which is everyone's favorite word, I think of solutions on improving education, public awareness, and foreign policy. How will we do it? What resources we have? How could we relinquish racism and violence which are the root of our existence in order to achieve such massive feat? Unfortunately, these are the questions that one must ponder when speaking of such tone of idealism: how? Information is vital to build a strategy and strategy is required to accomplish a task. As an ENTJ, I could only deal with what is possible, but I do have high hopes for the world.

XOmniverse · 1日前

America has sucked your souls dry leaving them withered husks

What a silly notion. Most people living in America have more freedom and opportunity than 99% of people who have ever lived. More political freedom, more economic freedom, less disease, less hunger, more access to technology.

I'm not saying America is special in this regard (it applies to most Western countries and some others as well), but it's important to have perspective. We (humans, I mean) tend to focus on the negative, which makes sense because that is where improvement can be made and where danger would lie if you were a tribesman living in a hunter-gatherer tribe 50,000 years ago. Ruminating on how good things are doesn't help your genes spread.

It's fascinating how utterly pessimistic our generation is, given that it has more of basically everything than any prior generation.

Gaius- · 16時間前

tl;dr: Entjs=Gaurdians-The Republic--Plato | Entjs have the strongest emotion of all the types and cope with high levels of neuroticism because reality is not kind to kindness.

WARNING: the following is a stream of conscience from an entj in a vunerable and sleep deprived episode on thought processes we generally go through at a basic level -from an attempt at objective speculation of self but failure because 1. the self is an illusion and 2. Humans are biased and I am very biased currently being vunerable but this also allows me to show emotion without feeling weak or illogical. The following is not for my fellow entjs but for others that dont understand why we are so abrasive. The tl;dr was for you brethren...read on if you dare but make sure to read it in its entirety before challenging me. Heavy use of parenthesis for context,subtext, and additional info. Parenthesis are also a fundamental part of my thought structure as I will usually have 2 inner monologues going at once and 3 when I concentrate. Continue on.

"Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness. Soldiers! in the name of democracy, let us all unite!" As a child I wished for absolute freedom and brotherhood. A world where ignorance, miscommunication, and intolerance didnt exist. Such a world of bliss I imagined, that I would do anything to achieve it for myself or for others. Charisma I believe is the power to unite people for a common goal and what makes us leaders (dealers in hope) not managers. Our "Machinery" is pure dedication to achieve our goal for ourselves and/or those that we unite with. If you were to ask a soldier why they went to war its because they believed in the cause and if you asked why they didnt desert after experiencing pure horror its because they wanted to protect the person next to them. The best way to protect our loved ones,ourselves, and our ideals is to lie to our emotional side that "life is a game" one wins a game of life through survival and virtrue (the Aristotelian way of arete) and this is most easily done by securing advantages no matter the cost.(side note: In games we are achievers looking to prove competence((to ourselves and others)) by winning) We are insensitive because of Love. How we talk to other people is how we talk to ourselves. We are trying to give people every advantage possible in our game. Now you see the problem is our game/goal is not for everyone. Therefore, they misunderstand the game or our strategy/goal is not the game we should be playing...a constant struggle.(this is beyond good and evil and closer to deciding was is true) For us, struggle is above all. Whatever survives battle is a virtue. Our episodes of vulnerability are when we lose, finding our self esteem in the gutter because of our ignorance and inability to protect those that unite with us. We learn quickly that the fastest way to lose is to lie to yourself and the first offenders of this is emotions. If we perceive that you (or ourselves) can't win we will lie to you and tell you that everything is okay i.e an officer telling a soldier with only a torso that he is receiving morphine because he is only missing a leg and will be fine by tomorrow. If we perceive you can win we will tell you-i.e an officer telling a soldier who has just seen his best friend lose his lower half "crawl to me now or you will die in cowardice...hes gone get over it." If I were a soldier I would want my commanding officer to be blunt and to the point because my life is on the line. Life is Life. I do not care if my commanding officer is playing a game (side note: gaming is likely pleasurable to animals because it prepares their mind for conflict without risk to their ability to survive) especially if he is doing all he can to win. Most non-chess players will look at an entj and see the horrors of making life like chess- where everyone around them is a sacrificial pawn. Chess players recognize how crushing it is to give up just one pawn to a sacrifice. So why do officers "play games" in war? Why do they Sacrifice? Because the best way for everyone to survive is to eliminate the conflict. If the Officer choose to be passive and not sacrifice the pawn then his rook is taken and then from this disadvantaged state everyone will die slowly. "No" you say "The officer sacrificed this fictional pawn to protect himself from checkmate in one!" To that I say Exactly... If this fictional "king" is captured then his fictional subordinates will not have orders, unity, or hope...there are no king promotions in chess. Again the safest option to protect yourself, loved ones, and ideals is to remove conflict and thus it is assumed that after the game ends the winning side will easily slaughter the lost opposition.(side note: all peices go into the same box after the game!) Chess is war. War is not a game...to all the peices playing. To the person behind the board it is game because they will not see their friends die if they miscalculate. However when entjs akin chess to life we are miscommunicating that we are the players not the king. Arguably the player of the entjs are ideas. The ideas united the pieces with the king and set the board. The stronger the idea(player) then the more likely the king and their loved ones will live. Therefore an entj who is a king will actively seek strong ideas of which they will become "pawns" of (i.e not emotions) because at one time (and still) our immense feelings of empathy are so great that we suppress feelings almost altogether as a defense mechanism... we lie to ourselves that life is just a game because of the enormous pain and responsibility we feel for the soldiers that joined us on the board; we also secretly yearn for the sweet release of the game being over and being reunited with all those we could not save. Thus I propose we have the opposite circuitry of a sociopath. The extremes look similar but the devil is in the details. Sociopaths are empty sadist who consume the world. We are masochist too full of emotions too strong to explain so we project them onto the world. Lying to ourselves(we are the soldier with a half torso) that we will find a player, strategy, solution so great that we will never lose all the things we hold dear. Your subtext is clear that you have a deep mistrust and maybe even hatred for a group of people you havent deeply interacted with but rather sterotyped as lying opressors-most likely due to a misunderstanding of goals(which I will later do to estjs). What you are feeling/expressing in this post (i.e pain,inferiority, paradoxical intention to be proven wrong, and strong desire for change) is our every day! We seek to conquer not because we want to rule people but because we want help everyone if possible...not to be accusatory but this seems to be prevalent distinction when it comes to intjs and our punishment systems i.e entjs do not enjoy giving out unnecessary pain and only seek revenge if practical (like wolves in a pack)...whilst intjs punish harshly (like a cat playing with food)on principle. Its a common notion that entjs seek power for powers sake, but most entjs Ive meet seek power so they can change their perceptions of injustice or inefficiency that hurts (which I think is common because most entjs grew up disempowered and changed their fate somewhere along the way). In addition if entjs really sought power for its own sake they would be more inclined to stick with the status quo and prosper as a leader. Yet they seem to be in charge for a very short time before an estj attempts to cure their "evil" and danger to the world through assassination...only to discover that the "damage" cannot be fixed. Although estjs are essential for stability (no matter how much we hate them) and are most likely to be in charge of any given old institution at any given time.(one cannot not make very good sterotype value judgement on myer briggs so take this with a grain of salt and awareness of saltiness) In addition they are the least likely personality type to foster or have empathy and are a level of cold that entjs could only wish to be (almost as if they were machines of society-shots fired-).(thankfully there is more power in rule creation than rule enforcement((but not by much)) Therefore I believe entjs that are well developed have found that this entire speech actually means a hell of a lot to us! At the marianas trench of our heart what we really value is our fellow man and question authority often like a white hat hacker trying to make a system as safe and as efficient as possible.

Daleks_in_space · 1日前

I'm very caring, but only to the people I care about (close friends/family). With everyone else, I keep up my ruthlessly, cold highly passion-driven nature. Some people much think I'm a bit sociopathic, but I know how I truly am, on the inside, and it's not what is seems.

Exterminating people is my job, so stay away! But seriously even though we're cynical and pragmatic, cold, arrogant at times, we're capable of caring, If we try hard enough.

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