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[–]Lovely_LeahSecular [スコア非表示]  (14子コメント)

Why aren't you asking every other ethnicity/religion to apologize for communism?

[–]Projectmayhem666 [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

Ooo ooo! Can I answer this one without being banned? I'm going to answer it anyway and ping some communo-anarchists in to back me up, which I find a reliable source because they all don't like me... Can't think why. /u/Prince_Kropotkin /u/punkswcleankitchens /u/kc_socialist.

Well, it's not technically a Jewish idea in a religious sense since Communism is Atheist and that's a pretty integral part for it, the idea was founded by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engel who were both Atheists (Engel raised Protestant and Marx raised Jewish).

The reason the Jews end up with the blame however, is that although none of the main Jewish players in communism were actually Jewish since they were Atheists, it's that a lot of the main players were ethnically Jewish, especially during the worst parts of Soviet Communism. Stalin wasn't Jewish sure, but by then Communism had already spread thanks to the original HxC Commie-Jew, Vlaldimir Lenin. It's this spread thanks to ethnic Jews that gets blamed on them, since it couldn't really have happened without them. By the time So-so took the reigns of the USSR everything was inevitable (though I'm sure the 3 pinged in are going to say it wasn't real communism).

So blaming Jews back then is silly, it hadn't been tried, it failed blah blah, I'm sure they didn't intend to kill millions of people, but hey it happened and it was not a positive event!

The Jews you CAN blame are the non-athiest ones pushing communism today, though I think they're few and far between... I have a list somewhere, it has about 14 people on it so it's not many.

That was a ramble but I think it answers the question pretty impartially, especially for me.

[–]punkswcleankitchens [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

This person is a literal neo-Nazi

[–]Projectmayhem666 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Now now, I invited you here to discuss your favourite subject, communism. Not made up political affiliations. /u/Lovely_Leah knows full well who I am. I have said nothing bad about the Jews in the above, it's a valid point... discuss

[–]punkswcleankitchens [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm not a Communist or a Jew so idk why you're pinging me. Did you come here just to harass Jews with your zainy conspiracy theories?

[–]Lovely_LeahSecular [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Did you come here just to harass Jews with your zainy conspiracy theories?

Probably.

[–]Krapsclever Jewish believer's wordplay [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Boy, /u/Lovely_Leah sure knows how to rile up the antisemitic fuckwits

[–]Lovely_LeahSecular [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

/r/european got quarantined, so they're all pissed at me. I've been getting non-stop pings.

[–]Lovely_LeahSecular [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

You still didn't address the main question, which is, why should Jews today be expected to apologize for communism, when no other group is asked to do the same?

The Jews you CAN blame are the non-athiest ones pushing communism today, though I think they're few and far between... I have a list somewhere, it has about 14 people on it so it's not many.

Why?

[–]punkswcleankitchens [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He keeps lists of people because he believes himself to be some sort of hunter of leftists and Jews, he's like a Gestapo wannabe and posts pictures of himself throwing Nazi salutes in r/European

[–]Projectmayhem666 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

You still didn't address the main question, which is, why should Jews today be expected to apologize for communism, when no other group is asked to do the same?

I did address the point, maybe not clearly... There is no reason to blame them or anyone else for it. They had no idea what the results would be and the theory was sound... It just doesn't work in practice. Religiously Jews aren't to blame because Communism is religiously Atheist. Ethnically they fucked up, but they weren't the only ones to start it, Marx couldn't have gained support without Engel and Engel was Christian.

Why?

It's not that kind of list, it's something I have jotted down in response to people saying "Source". Barbara Lerner is one of them for example. It means I can quickly Google something and provide a source to my argument.

[–]Lovely_LeahSecular [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Ethnically they fucked up

But this is the main source of my disagreement with your post. How did Jews "fuck up" ethnically?

[–]Projectmayhem666 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I'm certainly too tired to have started this, I mean. The Jews who began communism and its spread were only ethnically Jewish, no they weren't the only ones responsible. But they fucked up because communism while sound in theory was not a good idea, and it caused millions of deaths. However it was a cock up because they didn't know it would end up that way and wasn't their intention... It's not like they intended to kill anyone other than the bourgeois.

If this still isn't clear I'm going to have to revisit it tomorrow after I've slept :).

[–]Lovely_LeahSecular [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The vast majority of communists weren't Jewish. Engels wasn't Jewish. Neither was Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, most of the leaders of the USSR, any of the South American communist dictators, or the Kim family of North Korea.

[–]benadretiShomer Mitzvot [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The world sure is simple where you're sitting.