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[–]xGossipGoati5 4690K, GTX 980, 8 GB DDR3 437ポイント438ポイント  (38子コメント)

What I find amazing is that CD project know that it'll still sell if they rose to price to say around $30 (which I think is still a reasonable price for the content) but they dont and thats rare nowadays

[–]EyeronOre 139ポイント140ポイント  (28子コメント)

Selling it for less also gets them really pr though, and makes people more wiling to buy more of their games/dlcs in the future.

[–]ArtfullyUselessR9 390 | i5-4460 | 8GB 81ポイント82ポイント  (27子コメント)

The cost of labor in Poland is also much lower, they are paying polish prices for programmers. So they can more easily afford to sell the game more cheaper than American based companies.

[–]fenbekus 18ポイント19ポイント  (19子コメント)

That's kind of sad actually

[–]ryan_m 53ポイント54ポイント  (18子コメント)

Not if the cost of living is lower, too. Someone working in Omaha will make less than someone else doing the same job in NYC.

[–]dragon-storytellerAthlon X4 860K | AMD R7 360 | 8GB 1600MHz 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

The price of some products doesn't depend on living costs, though, especially things like hardware and games. A computer that costs $400 in the US can easily be $500 in Eastern Europe, despite their salaries being one third or less of those in western countries.

[–]LkMMoDCI7 4790K :::: STRIX 980 :::: 16GB OF KARP :::: KNAWLEDGE 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

The cost of all living essentials like a house, food, and transportation will all be cheaper. The cost of transported goods will be more expensive.

[–]Damian_NT 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup. Considering the fact that electronics are slightly more expensive in Poland, and you earn like 1/4 the money (in comparison to an average Joe)... a 200$ graphics card for a Polish guy would be something between 800-1000$ for a guy living in the USA. I don't mind mind the Polish prices though. It's just how things are. There are parts of the world where people struggle to build even a low end PC. Its not that bad here, in Poland.

Regarding CD Projekt RED. They just have a different philosophy when it comes to pricing. Quality is the king and treating the player base as fair as possible.

[–]fenbekus 13ポイント14ポイント  (12子コメント)

/u/dragon-storyteller is right. I do live in Poland, and games are just as expensive (or even more expensive) as they are in the US or wester Europe. Not even mentioning the phones. For example, Nexus 6P is considered "mid-range" in the US. In EU, it's at least 600 Euro, which with salaries in Poland... Nope.

[–]powe323 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

What I hate the most is steam games. A game that is 30$ in USA is 30€ over here, which is just stupid...

[–]wysuszonyi5-6500 | R9 390 | 8GB DDR4 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I miss good, old times with cheap-o russian gifts without region lock.

[–]0_0_0i5-4690 3.5GHZ- GTX 970 - 8GB RAM - 1920x1080 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

EU has VAT included in the prices.

[–]tamtran99i5 4590, PCS+ R9 390 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Steam has no tax sales. Origin does.

[–]0_0_0i5-4690 3.5GHZ- GTX 970 - 8GB RAM - 1920x1080 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

What is a "no tax sale"?

[–]madjokihttp://steamcommunity.com/id/madjoki/ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Difference is just taxes really. USD prices doesn't include, while euro prices do.

If game costs 30€ and $30

Europe:
You pay: 30€ Publisher earns: 30€ - TAX/VAT (eg. 20%) - 30% (royalties for shops) = 17,50€ (around $20)

Americas (and Europe before Euros were added): You pay $30 + TAX/VAT Publisher earns: $30 - 30% = $21

TL;DR: Taxes.

That said there's no question Steam prices do suck compared to physical copies.

[–]LG03 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Americanized market fucks every non-American.

[–]D3va92Steam ID Here 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea the prices are the same, what propably changes are the rent,taxes,etc.

[–]ZEnergylordFX-8350 - GTX 970 Windforce I LOVE FANS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The nexus 6p is mid tier? You sure about that?

[–]ralpher313 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can confirm. In Poland a 6000 PLN (1500$) monthly salary is upper middle class.

[–]pneumatici 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

All other implications aside, this did make my vacation to Krakow amazingly affordable. I got a private room with two meals a day for $19/day. I did some hunting and found a good sale but even still, it was incredibly low price to quality when converting USD to złoty.

[–]downeverythingvote_ii7 5820K @ 4.6GHz | MSI R9 290X 4GB | 16GB DDR4 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mhmmm, yet they could easily not sell it as cheap because they do way more work than most other devs. They don't deserve to be compensated less just because of where they live.

If this was EA/UBI/ACTI it would have 1/4th of the content and cost 2x as much, yes their devs might have higher living costs and wages, but the price and content difference IS NOT enough to be only accounting for that. They're fucking you in the ass with their prices, meanwhile CDPR resists avarice.

[–]inverterx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are they doing way more work than other devs or are they doing the normal amount and everybody else is slacking/money hungry?

[–]GillesVIi5 2500k @ 3.5Ghz | GTX680 | 8Gb RAM 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you underestimate howmuch labor costs in Poland, it isn't the labor paradise anymore it used to be.

[–]charliebrownnzI5 4690K | r9 390x | 16GB Ram 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was still a hugely expensive game to make - something like 80 million. And if going to Poland gives us games without the terrible DLC BS that the North American dev's are spewing out then move more to Poland.

[–]Skatman8310 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whereas the American based companies can only shop the work out to Polish Studios as contractors for even less cost.

[–]trotolektor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are totally wrong. Costs of labor are one of the biggest in Poland. Also programmers need worlds wages to be interested in working for CDPRED. Only costs of living are much cheaper in Poland(3-5 times).

[–]TychoTiberiusi5-6500, MSI GTX 980, 16 GB DDR4 21ポイント22ポイント  (7子コメント)

The higher you raise the price the fewer units you sell. It's all about finding that profit maximizing sweet spot.

[–]EXile1AEXile1A 25ポイント26ポイント  (5子コメント)

And seeing that they scored big with The Witcher 3 itself this is a really good way to get PR and word of mouth with gamers. (And perhaps even cheaper than paying a PR-firm.)

I mean this Post is free publicity for CD Project Red.

And it is well deserved. :D

[–]nearlyp 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

And seeing that they scored big with The Witcher 3 itself this is a really good way to get PR and word of mouth with gamers. (And perhaps even cheaper than paying a PR-firm.)

I mean this Post is free publicity for CD Project Red.

Arguably, that was the point of the free DLC campaign. Most of it was pretty simple and I would guess the vast majority of it was content that was designed (and maybe even started) during the game's development but probably didn't fit the window of when they wanted to release from a budget/time-commitment perspective.

I don't know that they made more money giving it all for free than they could have made putting it up for sale (considering it's mostly horse armor stuff that I doubt many people would buy) but I can guarantee you it was probably relatively cheap to produce and "free" anything is a hell of a marketing tool. I'm honestly surprised that publishers don't cut arbitrary content from the game and then release it as "free" DLC separately to earn good will, but that's a small step from the whole free update thing that more and more devs are turning to (and let's not get started on the 30$ Season Pass that gets more content and a price hike later).

[–]EXile1AEXile1A 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

If it was any other publisher it would have been sold for 2-3€ a piece. Sure it wasn't a lot of work but over several weeks they were added for free. So no complaining about the cosmetic stuff. More devs are turning to it? CDPR did it as one of the first. :P So other devs saw it worked.

As for raising the price for the season pass? Perhaps that has something to do with the regional pricing because I bought it for 24€ and it's still 24€. As for paying for 30+ hours of extra content. I'm okay with that. XD

[–]nearlyp -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

If it was any other publisher it would have been sold for 2-3€ a piece.

No, that's just fanboyism, plain and simple, just like calling it "complaining" when someone points out that this is something cheap/easy to do while creating a lot of good will with an immeasurable value. This is not something unique to CDPR and they weren't the first to do it: they've just been the first to really successfully market it and make people think they were the first.

Most major AAA releases include free content of some variety and indefinite postlaunch support. The Sims 3 had a metric shit ton of DLC adding up to a metric shit ton of money but still provided players with free content. Mass Effect 3 received a ton of free content in the form of fairly regular and large multiplayer updates. EA continued that tradition in Dragon Age: Inquisition, and most of their sports titles, as well as the Battlefield series which has had free content and updates for quite a while. Buying a new copy of Bad Company 2 meant that you got 6 map packs with 2 maps each, and a 7th map pack with 4 maps. Later, this was made available via patches to anyone that had the game rather than just people that registered a new copy.

Buying a new copy of BF3 or BF4 at launch meant you got the first DLC pack for free, and BF4 has received a ton of fixes and updates to get it up from the buggy state it released in. Even after that point, they've continued to release maps, weapons, and game modes to players that didn't even buy the Season Pass, though obviously it's not the same amount as Season Pass holders get.

That's just one series and one major publisher. Total War: Attila received free content pretty recently. GTAV has put out a ton of free content updates even while supporting the game with microtransactions and selling in-game money. Arkham Knight offers all players a couple skins alongside the number they sell, and the past titles have done that as well (plus free DLC / upgrades to GOTY edition for anyone that owned Asylum / City). I can go and buy free outfits for Assassin's Creed: Syndicate or I can download some others. Same thing in The Division. Fallout 4 added a fair bit of stuff for compatibility with their DLC and has been releasing free content / updates entirely separate from that DLC (like the updated Survival mode), just like Bethesda did with Skyrim (which added some features developed during their ideajam separately from the paid DLC they offered). They explicitly said when discussing their Season Pass that they would also do free updates and content (which, if you're paying attention, is exactly what CDPR is doing and which you're saying they're the first to ever do). This list is by no means exhaustive, and you could probably go down the New Release or Top Seller list on Steam and find the vast majority have free content of some variety (though not necessarily as often when it comes to indies).

Honestly, if you look at any title from the digital distribution era (meaning kind of halfway into the 360s lifespan), you're like to find that the devs and publishers started adding free content. They mainly didn't hype the shit out of it or send players a letter saying "see, look, we're good guys" though and that's part of why nobody's posting memes to basically market their games for them (usually).

[–]EXile1AEXile1A 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

CDPR have been adding content for free since the original Witcher (2007)... (same way as your Bad Company 2 example)

As for the fanboyism. You brought up the Free DLC while I was talking about the price of the expansion pack. So yes, you started complaining about free stuff. :P

True the free stuff isn't that impressive. But the price of the expansions (10€ for HoS and 20€ for) come down to <1€ per hour on top of a game that has 100+ hours of content in it. That is praise worthy; and that is what they are receiving.

Most examples you mention are for multiplayer so the comparison is a bit more tricky. Shoving out an empty map is easier than one with Quests, stories and NPC's

I never said they were the first. But from the big publishers definitely one of the first. (see first sentence)

[–]nearlyp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

CDPR have been adding content for free since the original Witcher (2007)... (same way as your Bad Company 2 example)

So you're saying they added as much as or more content to the first game than was added to BC2? That's not really going to hold up. The Enhanced Edition was mostly a patch addressing the somewhat lukewarm reception. A lot of animations, model updates, voice packs, etc., and then two "premium" modules essentially made with the mod tools.

As for the fanboyism. You brought up the Free DLC while I was talking about the price of the expansion pack. So yes, you started complaining about free stuff. :P

That's exactly why it's fanboyism--you can't even articulate why anything I said is actually a "complaint." I am literally describing their DLC practice and pointing out that it's great marketing and you are literally labeling it a complaint.

Aside form that, most of the DLC was skins and armor: that's not a subjective feeling, that's a quantifiable fact about the nature of the content. I'm sure some people are happy to spend a lot of money on skins and armor. (If you play the entire game with one of those new armor sets, did you just get 100+ hours of "new" content?) That the meatiest content available was a relatively brief quest starts to get into subjective territory, but it's still a fixed amount of content with a number of voice lines, etc., and you're only into really subjective realm when you say the quest was high or low quality. You are talking out of your ass if you say this new expansion is good or bad because it's not out yet.

Aside from that, you're also trying to make it a point about the amount / quality of content. It doesn't matter whether or not the content is single / multi, it's new playable content. I would bet that most much-loved multiplayer games have given players many thousands of hours more enjoyable/satisfying playtime with far less content. Look at Counter-Strike and Dota, just to name two. You can get 100+ hours of Witcher 3, or you could complete the story and drop the game in 30 hours, as has been done. You could spend hundreds of hours completing everything in The Phantom Pain or you could just blow through the story and call it a day in relatively few hours.

I've logged over a thousand hours in Dota 2 and nowhere near that amount for Wild Hunt: which game is a better per-dollar value for me? We could probably run down the time played category in all sorts of games for all sorts of users and find that the value per dollar is incredibly subjective even before getting to the point that some people might have enjoyed that content at different levels.

You're praising a game you enjoyed and spent a lot of time with. That's fine, but let's not pretend that you're praising some universal quality that makes the game and its developers better than anyone else.

[–]ChequeYourselfAlmost 2 Ascension 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Economics!

[–]standardprocdure[Rev]Deadbaby 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It really is. CDPR have really done an excellent job of giving players what they want without hamstringing them.

[–]jesperbjGTX 980, i7-4970K, 32 GB RAM, Noctis 450, LG Ultrawide 169ポイント170ポイント  (26子コメント)

But hot damn do I wish I could play Uncharted on PC. It's a terrible shame on of the best game studios is locked to a single platform.

[–]RegisteredTM 42ポイント43ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's how I feel about Crackdown 3.

[–]12Carnationi7 4790 | MSI GTX 970 | 8GB DDR3 38ポイント39ポイント  (17子コメント)

to be fair, the studio wont exist if not for sony, platform exclusivity is a crappy thing but games like these is great for gaming in general, im waiting for the exclusives to build on the newer console and buy them all at once for cheap later when a new one launches, i did the same for ps3 and found some really great games through it

[–]iamlegend235http://www.twitch.tv/iamlegend235 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

Exactly. I bought my ps3 a couple weeks ago for $50. And im enjoying Uncharted 2, Last of Us, God of war, Infamous. And each game only cost me $3 each

[–]rorrExatny5 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just wondering, are those prices for used games from e.g. gamestop or Sonys official prices on their online store?

[–]iamlegend235http://www.twitch.tv/iamlegend235 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

From gamestop mostly. I got a couple from craigslist

[–]-FrankPhenom II x4 965 // EVGA GTX970 // 16GB HYPERX 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's been years since I got my hand on a physical game. How nostalgic.

[–]Stubrochill17GTX770, i5 3570k, 16GB DDR3, LG 21:9 25UM64, CherryMX Brown 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Where'd you get one for $50? Just like craigslist or something? I'm looking to play some ps3 exclusives and miss having one around.

[–]iamlegend235http://www.twitch.tv/iamlegend235 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone was selling it on an app called OfferUp

[–]the_settlementsAMD FX 8120 - ASUS Strix R9 390 - 16GB DDR3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I loved Infamous and its comic book style of storytelling. Then that all went away in Infamous 2.

[–]charliebrownnzI5 4690K | r9 390x | 16GB Ram 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hardware platform exclusivity probably isn't necessary to get these games over the line. Remember the PS3 wasn't a profitable platform taking the hardware into account. If Sony had a PC store they could sell these games, get 100% of the profit without having to support their own locked in hardware which holds back gaming.

[–]Ellthanhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/Ellthan/ -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Maybe. But then there's the other case where a new generation comes out and all the games before it are completely wiped.

I can still play my 15 year old copy of indiana jones and the infernal machine.

Good luck playing a game from ps1-2 nowadays.

[–]12Carnationi7 4790 | MSI GTX 970 | 8GB DDR3 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Good luck playing a game from ps1-2 nowadays.

may i introduce you to emulators on PC? and alot of notable titles from ps1/2 are playable in ps3 and vita

[–]raulduke05i5-4690/ 16GB RAM/ GTX 970 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

for sure. phones too. just played danganronpa and persona 3 on the psp emulator, and xenogears on the ps1 emulator.

[–]Boukish 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And PS4 too, for that matter. S'how I play rogue galaxy, dark cloud, and ff7.

[–]Ellthanhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/Ellthan/ -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obviously I mean if you own a console and not a pc.

Obviously.

Apparently not obviously enough for you.

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    [–]Homelesskateri7 4790k, GTX 970, 16gb 2400, Maximus VI Gene, Silverstone SG10 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's a great movie like game, I recommending to lend it from someone and play Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 in it or get it someday cheaper (the neo hopefully can achieve 60fps with those games).

    [–]76374856 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I purchased a ps4 for this game and series. I also purchased a Playstation 4 so i can play any future exclusives on the PS platform. Hideo Kojima is apprently working on a game for the PS. Let's hope that one turns out good. PC is my main gaming platform.

    [–]l_3AK3DI7-4790K/EVGA GTX 980TI Hybrid/Z97 Pro Gamer/16GB G.Skill DDR3 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you read about that game it is also known and it has been said a couple different times that it will also be coming to PC as well.

    Edit: The future Kojima game that is

    [–]bitches_bepoor mans rig 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I bought a PS4 but I have like 3 games and I never play them. Steam has spoiled me with so many cheap games

    [–]PC_Mustard_Race83Steam ID Here 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Get a PS4 when you can. I bought a PS3 back when they first dropped to $250 because I had been dying to play RDR. It would have been worth it for that alone, but then I also discovered and loved the Uncharted series, Demon's Souls/Dark Souls, and other things that weren't on PC at the time (Like Enslaved). The Last of Us wasn't even on my radar at the time, but I asked for it for Xmas one year and was completely fucking blown away. It's one of my favorite games of all time. So if you could get a PS4 and play the remastered versions of the Uncharted games and TLoU, I promise you it would be worth every penny.

    [–]h0lyshadow4790k, PCS+ 290, 16GB DDR3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    But naughty dog isn't Sony itself? I mean, they make beautiful games on a closed platform THEY have created. That give them an edge over any other developer and most important it cannot be done in the PC universe because obvious reasons. What I'm saying is that naughty dog wouldn't even be considered one of the best studios if they weren't "locked" on a single platform.

    [–]sharky_chupssharky_chups 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What I don't understand about console or any exclusives is that they are essentially creating art. They are projecting their inner thoughts, feelings onto their canvas, which is a game.

    They lock the game to ps4 which does not run on its most optimal state. If I was an artist, I would strive to show off my work in the best way possible.

    I'm playing Uncharted now. Gorgeous game limited by hardware. I want to experience their art in 4k 60fps.

    Much like tomb raider 2.. I played it on friends Xbox one.. Then subsequently bought on PC. Completely different experience. I appreciated every facet of their art.

    [–]Steeltemplari5-6600 / GTX 960 / 16GB DDR4 148ポイント149ポイント  (47子コメント)

    $ony.

    [–]LoveTheTeabags 97ポイント98ポイント  (45子コメント)

    $ony actually uses these microtransactions so they can release all further multiplayer content for free. I know we are PCMR and love to shit on consoles but this system is great and has already worked in Halo 5. People pay for these useless microtransactions (skins and shit) and as a result everyone gets new content (maps, weapons, modes) for free instead of having to pay for dlc like in the past. And they don't split the community.

    [–]Steeltemplari5-6600 / GTX 960 / 16GB DDR4 63ポイント64ポイント  (3子コメント)

    all further multiplayer content for free

    For free = PSN 50€/Year.

    [–]Welshy123 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think what he's saying is that the Uncharted money goes to Uncharted developers. Some Uncharted DLC will therefore be free to all.

    [–]nearlyp 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You could say the same of Wild Hunt's "free" DLC that you need to buy a 50$ game to access.

    [–]ShyvanaDrakoThanks to Valve 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Developers =! Console first party

    [–]Ludum_gamer26 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

    that's basically the concept for cs:go.

    [–]Cakeofdestinyi7 4790, R9 390, 8GB RAM, 120 GB 850 Evo 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Except that in csgo all of the skins and the maps are user created and valve earns money from idiots who buy skins for nothing

    [–]ArtfullyUselessR9 390 | i5-4460 | 8GB 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Plus the Valve tax on market transactions for selling items on the market.

    [–]ecstatic_wafflehttp://steamcommunity.com/id/ecstaticwaffle 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And people wonder why Valve won't develop new games. It's way more lucrative to do next to nothing and rake in cash from digital economies that's all user-driven.

    [–]Ommagedenr9 390 | i5-6600 | 16 Gb Ram 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Shouldn't really call people idiots for valuing something differently from you. If someone has the disposable income to purchase the skins then who really cares?

    [–]trotolektor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    what? nothing is free in CS:GO. everything costs, from the game itself to skins and cheats.

    [–]HappyZavulonFury X, i5-3570k, 8GB RAM 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    $ony actually uses these microtransactions so they can release all further multiplayer content for free.

    GTA Online has shown me that "free" DLC supported by microtransactions can be much worse than proper DLC you have to pay for.

    In GTAO you pretty much have to pay with real money for things unless you grind every day for hours.

    [–]IKill4MySkillFX-8350/290X 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And have to pay about 80 bucks for one yacht. Which is part of one update.

    ... Good thing modders exist.

    [–]Naked_Zombie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If stupid people spending a shit ton of money on stupid in game currency means I get free content, then Sony can add all the damn microtransactions they want.

    [–]sterob -4ポイント-3ポイント  (26子コメント)

    further multiplayer content for free

    on pc we call it a patch.

    [–]DEATH_csgoi7-4790k 4.9Ghz|MSI GTX 980ti SeaHawk 1536Mhz|1TB SSD|Rog Swift 33ポイント34ポイント  (3子コメント)

    be nice if that statement is true, the amount of maps / levels that come out behind a pay wall is vast.

    but i mean its a double edge sword, if they continue making large content that has a large product cost, they need to recoop the money, can't go negative quarter over quarter.

    initial revenue funds the next game, then dlc/mt funds the ongoing updates.

    [–]wngmvSweetspot CPU/Meme tier GPU/God Tier Case/Grandfather tier SSD 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not for Uncharted. IIRC all their MP DLCs are free.

    To be honest, Naughty Dog is much better than most devs out there. It's definitely one of the most beloved (and deservedly so) devs.

    [–]JosephND 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's like people forget that Steam tried to put the workshop behind a mandatory paywall

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      [–]WilhelmScreams 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

      TIL map packs don't exist on PC.

      [–]TehJellyfishI5-2500K, GTX 560ti, 8gb Ram 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Where do I get those Battlefield patches for free? How about Fallout? Could've sword those are DLCs you have to pay for.

      I'm sure at this point you're going to point out CS:GO, what this example actually alludes to is that it's on a per developer basis and it unfortunately not many PC developers besides Valve and Riot have picked this payment model up.

      [–]sterob 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      and i am sure at this point you are belligerent for the sake of being a smart ass.

      Patches with new contents was the norm in the gaming industry. Warcraft had them, Total War series. Company of heroes had them, even EA with their Sim franchise. Attila is still updating new map, new race this year.

      It was because of people who keep sucking corporation that why update now are behind paywall. Why bother to work when sheep would still eat cash grab shit.

      [–]nearlyp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      even EA with their Sim franchise

      Most EA games actually come with free DLC. The Battlefield series typically has had major game content patches (quite a lot of maps were added in BC2, BF4 just received a number of weapons, modes and maps for free within the past few months on top of the numerous fixes needed after the bug-ridden state it launched in). Usually if you buy the game at launch, you also get the first map pack for free as well.

      If you look at any major EA release pretty much since they abolished online passes, it probably received free content post-release, usually multiplayer. Mass Effect 3 received a number of multiplayer updates, same with Dragon Age: Inquisition and the sports titles (which I'm not all that familiar with). It's actually probably easier to list titles that didn't get free content updates than to name them all.

      Most major AAA releases are offering microtransactions to support "free" online content updates these days. GTAV is another example. Again, it's probably easier to list AAA titles that don't than to list all the ones that do offer something or other.

      [–]B_Rhino 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

      What PC exclusive multiplayer games are out that give free DLC/patches without a monetization method?

      [–]sayf24lolsayf24 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      If I remember correctly, verdun has done that at one point

      [–]sterob 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Prior the pre-order cash grab era, almost every RTS, SIM game?

      [–]B_Rhino 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      So before DLC and microtransactions existed?

      I know some RTSs had expansion packs as their only way of delivering new content. Command and Conquers, Warcrafts, Starcraft.

      [–]sterob -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yes before sheep letting corporations know that they will still eat cash grab no matter what.

      [–]Ripxsii7-5930k 4.3Ghz GTX 760 16Gb DDR4 http://i.imgur.com/ZycoUDP.jpg 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Diablo 3, I count the console version as a different experience. There's been a lot of over hauling done on the whole game, seasons, etc. But there has been one expansion.

      [–]isavegas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      There are literally too many to count. You forget indie games.

      [–]huntlol -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Path of exile

      [–]StarkyA 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

      That's a F2P game so it doesn't really count, their entire business model requires them to keep pumping out content to keep the "whales" happy.

      [–]MattV413i5 6500,R9 390,16 GB DDR4, 480 GB Ultra II SSD 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

      how does that not count? The content they push out is actual quality stuff. The Devs are also active in the community and the "whales" you speak of don't really spend much on the game because a majority of their dedicated players can do everything free thanks to the in game trading/currency you get from grinding.

      [–]GloriousDead 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Because it said without a monetization method. Otherwise dota 2 would rule them all

      [–]StarkyA 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      free DLC/patches without a monetization method?

      That was question, and PoE does not count.
      PoE has a monetisation method, it's monetisation method is selling things in its shop, and in order to do that it needs to make players interested in playing, invested in keeping playing - which means providing constant content. Kind of like an MMO in that respect.

      Every content patch they make is going to be funded by all the new cosmetic items they make, the pets, spell effects etc...
      And it's the whales who buy all that shit, seriously google it, something like 5-10% of the player base in pretty much any F2P game provides 50-60% of the revenue.

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        [–]TcT_Spartan 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

        "already worked in Halo 5"

        Hardly. That 'new content' consists of game modes that weren't there at launch (though were available @ launch for practically every other Halo game), redundant armor variants, remixes of maps already present in the game, and forge maps en lieu of actual, new maps. They've rehashed/reused a majority of the content (either that or play catch-up with its predecessors) and pass it off as this grand-spanking-new original content.

        I don't think you're technically wrong, 343i has definitely implemented this system. I just think it's more accurate to say they've "gotten away with it" than it working. I'd much rather have the problem of premium DLC possibly splitting a community (which is still an evil, just the lesser of the two) than this system. All it's done is enable 343i to half-ass finish their incomplete game under the guise of "free updates".

        [–]KlopeksWithCoppersi7 4790K, 16Gb, GTX 970 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

        With a statement like that I think it's fair to assume that you haven't played any of the new maps/content in Halo 5.

        [–]TcT_Spartan 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I'll admit I only drop in the game every few weeks to play something like Grifball or Super Fiesta with friends, and that I think I was trying to generalize their post-launch cotent w/ too broad of a brush.

        I'm aware there are legitimate new maps like Skirmish At Darkstar and Torque, but the amount of actual new content like that pales in comparison to the remixes, rehashing, etc. I'm hard-pressed to consider old gamemodes (Assault, Grifball, infection, etc) new content.

        [–]KlopeksWithCoppersi7 4790K, 16Gb, GTX 970 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        As far as I know, there are only 2 remix maps. I haven't played one of them, but I have played the other one and didn't even realize that it was a remix until I googled it.

        [–]mushroomtool -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Paystation

        [–]ULICKMAGEESteam ID Here 45ポイント46ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Can't balme them for trying if people are gonna buy this shit.

        [–]jaamfanJaAmfan 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Can't tell if that was an intentional mummy pun or not, considering this is Uncharted...

        [–]ULICKMAGEESteam ID Here 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Nope, just another one of my many spelling errors :D

        [–]ASovietUnicorni5-4690k | 16 GB | GTX 780 SLI 28ポイント29ポイント  (7子コメント)

        I know everyone keeps jerking CDPR off, but they really do totally deserve it. With the constant patches, free DLC, extremely content-rich cheap DLC, and GOG they are easily my favorite developer.

        [–]MobileSmartness 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

        Agree. A shame TW3 sold only 15million copies while CODxyz sold 100million+ copies yearly.

        [–]NINJAFISTERRadeon 7790 and some crappy amd cpu (sounds like a jet engine) 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

        Idk, i sort of get it. The fighting is good, but not amazing. You buy the game mainly for the story, but most people don't care too much for that. They just want to play something without long conversations

        [–]B-Knighti7 4790k / GTX 980Ti 6GB Gaming 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

        They just want to play something without long conversations

        Then don't buy The Witcher 3. All of the things you just mentioned are reasons to not buy the game. If you don't enjoy an amazing, content rich story, don't get it. If you don't like smooth and varied combat, don't get it. If you don't like making decisions or long conversations in games, don't get it.

        Basically, if you don't like RPG's, don't get the game.

        What matters most, though, is the developers. They put 100's of hours of gameplay and quests into the game and then sold it for cheaper than most other games out there. They've offered free DLC and things to keep people coming back. They put thank you for supporting us in their CD Cases and gave gifts to those who bought the game. They didn't include DRM which makes the performance worse. They keep creating constant patches and updates to an already outstanding game. Ect, ect...

        Rightfully, they won 300+ awards and GOTY. 100% deservingly.

        [–]NINJAFISTERRadeon 7790 and some crappy amd cpu (sounds like a jet engine) 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

        That wasn't what I was saying, the guy before me said it was a shame it only sold 15 million copies, and I said that it's sort of understandable since it's a different genre than what the regular gamers enjoy.

        [–]B-Knighti7 4790k / GTX 980Ti 6GB Gaming -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Yeah, I wasn't aiming at you more per say at the person reading who thought the way you wrote in your comment. If you understand what I mean?

        Apologies.

        [–]NINJAFISTERRadeon 7790 and some crappy amd cpu (sounds like a jet engine) 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Ah okay, I thought that you didn't understand what I was saying. No apoligies needed!

        [–]LokiTheSuperSaiyanSapphire Radeon R9270X | AMD FX-6300 | Corsair Vengenace 8G 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Welcome to the PC Master Race, where disputes are settled with kindness and Canadian-esque apologies.

        I really do not regret switching from consoles many moons ago.

        [–]sungazer69FX-8350 (4.3ghz), 12gb RAM, R9 390 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Telling me. I bought W3 for $30 because I wasn't sure if I would like it very much.

        Ended up being my favorite game of all time and now I feel guilty.

        [–]DUDEiFAIL 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

        If you buy it for me for 30$ you might feel less guilty.

        [–]Trusty_Tyranti5 4690k | 8GB | R9 380 4GB 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        But what if you end up feeling guilty for having not paid for it at all?

        [–]Jakkol 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Hey PM me a W3 key if you want to feel better.

        Glad to help haha.

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          [–]mondomaniatrics 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Then don't buy it.

          Seriously, folks. They're selling this crap because there's actually a market for it. You don't have to participate. Enjoy the game without it.

          [–]blacksmithwolfSpecs/Imgur here 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Train simulator would like a word.

          [–]skiskateI7 5820K | GTX 980TI | ASUS X99 | 16GB DDR4 | 750D | HTC VIVE 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I recently learned why this is not as outrageous as it looks.

          You need to purchase a digital license to use a real name and appearance of a gun or a car in a video game, so it's very likely that the train simulator devs had to pay thousands of dollars between the 3D models and the brand names just to be able to include them in the game.

          [–]Pawel95i7 6700k / GTX 970 / 12GB Ram 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Devs of TS once: "We know the price is quite high, but the dlc's wasn't made to get all of them. You pick your most favourite ones and just buy these." Doesn't change the fact that you get 1-2 new train(skin) and 2 routes for $20.00 :D, while guys from the community are making new trains and routes all the time, for free :P

          [–]MistaGav 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

          There are games on PC that are just as guilty of this as there are on ps4 and xbone.

          [–]MangoNoChutney 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

          When I see Uncharted 4 I think "Wow, imagine what they could do with powerful hardware".

          [–]StreetfoldsfiveWhoYouJivin 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

          This makes the front page, despite the fact that these coins are used for cosmetic items and helps guarantee that all future multiplayer content (maps, weapons, etc) will be free.

          [–]kingcolex 21ポイント22ポイント  (35子コメント)

          I still haven't picked up the witcher 3, it's worth it right?

          Edit: I'm talked into it, anyone know the cheapest place to get a steam key or should I wait for summer sale?

          Got a GOG key on eBay for $10, now I gotta wait to get home and play!

          [–]impediment980Ti SLI, i7 5820k, 16GB DDR4 62ポイント63ポイント  (19子コメント)

          Wat. Yes. Have you been living under a rock?

          [–]kingcolex 10ポイント11ポイント  (18子コメント)

          I mean I heard the buzz when it came out but you know how everyone kind of just goes nuts when a game launches.

          [–]ShadowsggFX-8350 | gtx 960 33ポイント34ポイント  (10子コメント)

          Can't say anything about the game you probably haven't heard by now, but whatever it is you are playing right now isn't as good as Witcher 3, so go play it.

          [–]12Carnationi7 4790 | MSI GTX 970 | 8GB DDR3 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

          even Ride to Hell: Retribution?

          [–]millenlolSLI GTX 980 Ti/4790k @ 4,5 GHz/32Gb 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Even Bad Rats?

          [–]BasschMade you look! 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

          You have found the exception.

          [–]salexy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Let's not go there.

          [–]kingcolex 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Just got into super Modded skyrim, any idea the average base price or if I should wait for summer sale?

          [–]CaptainJL 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

          I'm biased because I love Witcher 3, but honestly its $50 base price and $25 expansion pass feels like highway robbery given how much quality content the game has. That said, it's pretty routinely on sale for $30.

          Fair warning, the combat system is arguably the biggest criticism I see; I personally love the combat, but you may want to investigate. Also, the game is a massive timesink. The vanilla game along comfortably has over 100 hours of non-repeated content, though I don't begrudge anyone who starts to ignore guarded treasures or smugglers caches after a while.

          It's my personal favorite RPG, but it isn't without fault and it's definitely not a game everyone enjoys, so don't feel bad if it doesn't grab you like you feel it should. But after playing Skyrim for 200 hours and then Witcher 3 for 140...I'm not going back to Skyrim anytime soon.

          [–]artyboi37i5 3550, R9 290X 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Seriously. I picked up the game for $25 back in December, and immediately bought the season pass $50 total, and I have roughly 160 hours, and I'm not even done with new game +. Idk how I'm gonna catch up in time for Blood and Wine.

          [–]doctors_like_cashFX-6300 | R9 380 4GB | 8GB DDR3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          use cheapshark.com to find average

          https://www.cheapshark.com/search?q=witcher%203

          [–]isavegas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I got Skyrim: Legendary Edition for 5 USD last year (75% off, IIRC). Wait for the sale.

          [–]ShadowsggFX-8350 | gtx 960 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Next sale isn't that far off and Witcher series are always heavily discounted, but I bought the game twice (physical and digital) and it still seems like a good deal compared to other triple A games.

          [–]FriendsCallMeAsshole 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Depending on whom you ask, the game either lived up to the hype completely, or atleast deserved the exposure it got.

          It's a fantastic game, and no matter the hype, you will get your moneys worth when buying it (now even more than at release)

          [–]kingcolex 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Alright I'm down, any idea on cheapest place to get a steam key or should I wait til summer sale?

          [–]FriendsCallMeAsshole 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Some Nvidia cards came bundled with Witcher 3 GOG keys, so there should be plenty of sites that sell those. GOG is completely DRM free, which is nice (they also have a client of their own, gog galaxy, but it's optional, you can simply download the game installer from the website instead, so no additional bloatware for your pc) - feel free to buy basegame without season pass first, atm there is no financial benefit from buying both at the same time, and the quests are high level content anyway.

          If you do enjoy witcher 3, do buy the season pass, the quality of the DLC is astounding.

          [–]Thuraash 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          One playthrough took me 100 hours. And I am very much not a completionist or farmer; it was (fantastic) unique content from start to finish.

          If $50 doesn't ding your wallet too bad, it's more than worth the money. If not, hang out for a sale and save around $20 (that is, spend the same: you should buy the season pass because it damn near will double the game).

          [–]FanaticBananai7 920 @ 3.3 ghz, 8GB RAM, MSI R9 390 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It only got about all the Game of the Year awards of last year. So yeah, there was some buzz.

          [–]TheRealLHOswaldi5-4690k@4.5Ghz GTX 780ti@1.2Ghz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Out of the 300+ games on my PC, I still find myself going back to the witcher 3 all the time. It raised the bar what an open world rpg should be.

          [–]amalgam_reynoldsi5-4690K | GTX 980 ti | 16GB RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I picked up the base game quite a bit later, months even after the first expansion was out and all the hype had petered out. Holy shit yes it's a good game. It's worth it at any price you can find it.

          [–]auronvi4690K, GTX 670, 8 GB, 240 GB SSD 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Do you like open world RPGs? If yes it is the best one released in years. Some think best of all time.

          [–]krazykraz01 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          In regards to your edit, wouldn't be surprised if it went on sale at the end of May to promote the DLC.

          [–]Not_trolling_or_am_I 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          The most robust and beautiful RPG I have ever played. If you can buy it, do it. I have around 137 hours of playtime with 1 character so far, and still bunch of quests and exploring left to do.

          [–]CrimsonNovadeadyetalive 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Cheapest place IMHO is DLcompare. They compare game prices from multiple websites.

          [–]Taylor_OD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I started it about a month ago and have sunk 70 hours into it or so. Great game. I threw a couple mods on to make things move a little quicker but the game is pretty long as well. For me its like skyrim where the quests are more interesting and overall less buggy.

          [–]ImN0rthi5 6600 @ 3.5 | GTX 980 | 16GB 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I got the trilogy on G2A for about $30 USD. I know G2A isn't always takes too kindly around here.

          [–]B-Knighti7 4790k / GTX 980Ti 6GB Gaming 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          cheapest place to get a steam key

          It's weird, because I think Steam is selling it for cheaper than G2A right now. But, still, the developers are amazing. Literally the best. So throw your money at them if you can...

          [–]Dardlemfx-6300, gtx 960 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

          cheapest place to get a steam key

          Probably greenmangaming. It's on sale for $25 there.

          [–]MinecraftK131R7 360m | i5 6200U 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Is greenmangaming safe to use or is it a site just like G2A?

          [–]Dardlemfx-6300, gtx 960 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Yep, totally safe, nothing like G2A.

          [–]LokiTheSuperSaiyanSapphire Radeon R9270X | AMD FX-6300 | Corsair Vengenace 8G 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I know I'm a bit late, but let me describe it to you in through my eyes.

          You remember back when you were a kid, and you played Ocarina of Time, or any of the now considered "classics?"

          This was my experience with The Witcher 3. 15-20 years from now, we will look back on this game as a must-play classic to the RPG genre. It has been one of the best games to come out for 10 years.

          And this isn't hype talk either. Game's already been out for quite some time, and my feelings for it stay the same.

          Trust me, you're going to fucking love it.

          Oh, and before I go, Team Yen.

          [–]GodzillaLikesBoobs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          what is wrong with you? youll be thrown right into the world from the get go. the game shouldn't even exist, its so stupidly good.

          ursine enhanced armor + yen...damn.

          [–]lewdite 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          We shape the industry by voting with our money.

          [–]Momorules99i5 4590, 2x4GB Team Elite 1600 MHz, AsRock H97 Anniversary. 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Well now tasty all the DLCs are out now for the Witcher 3 I should probably consider getting the game... The only issue being that I will also likely spend so much time playing out that I will forget that there ever was such a thing as "friends" or perhaps the mythical "outside".

          Ninja edit: I see it...not gonna fix it though, Swype wind this time.

          Ninja edit edit: Oh for fucks sake.

          [–]LokiTheSuperSaiyanSapphire Radeon R9270X | AMD FX-6300 | Corsair Vengenace 8G 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          The final DLC isn't out yet, it comes May 31st.

          Shouldn't say DLC, actually, it's essentially a full fledged game. 30+ hours and over 90 quests.

          God damn, CDPR, I love you.

          [–]LightsOut5774MSI GTX 970 | i5-4690k | 8GB RAM 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Well to be fair, all of the upcoming DLC for Uncharted 4 is gonna be free.

          Edit: Downvoted for sharing facts. Nice.

          [–]KleptomatikkSpecs/Imgur here 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

          You literally don't even have to buy the points for Uncharted. They're there for the people that like to advance quickly. Don't like to spend money? Then don't. Going it out like many other people will do and stop bitching

          [–]CJLogix 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Man its costs 5 bucks just to unluck a character in multiplayer. The single player is pretty fucking awesome but the multiplayer is pretty retarded.

          [–]Resentful_Toucani5 4690k / GTX 970 / 8GB 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

          No one is making you buy this stuff.

          [–]Dioroxici5 6600k, 32GB DDR4, EVGA 980 Ti 40ポイント41ポイント  (3子コメント)

          That, and what OP didn't mention is that "Uncharted Points" are for cosmetics like skins / hats / outfits that don't give you an advantage.

          I also think that every single item in the game can be unlocked with JUST PLAYING multiplayer. Getting uncharted points just lets you unlock some cool skins and shit a little sooner.

          Of course OP wouldn't say that though. Gotta get karma from circle jerking right? Naughty Dog handled the "micro-transaction" thing very well. Pretty much the same as Valve does with their TF2/CS:GO/DOTA2 items. Just less gambling.

          [–]Resentful_Toucani5 4690k / GTX 970 / 8GB 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Yeah not quite sure why I was downvoted but hey, internet.

          Microtransactions for cosmetics are fine in my eyes, so long as they don't affect gameplay or give you some kind advantage it's up to you if you want to waste money tarting your character up a bit. Not my cup of tea but others enjoy it.

          [–]wngmvSweetspot CPU/Meme tier GPU/God Tier Case/Grandfather tier SSD 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Agreed. I think the whole CDPR circlejerk is too strong on this subreddit. As if they can do nothing wrong.

          ND is a hell of a dev. I wish they were on PC. Even though I've grown out of the games and don't enjoy it as much, there are few games on PC that matches their level of producing. Hell, even tlou on PS3 looks like it was cutting edge 2013 graphics.

          [–]VoytekBeari5 4690k | MSI R9 390 8G | MSI Z97 Gaming 5 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          "Uncharted points" It even sounds cancerous.

          [–]sterob 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Doesn't mean he can't criticize how bad it is.

          [–]Resentful_Toucani5 4690k / GTX 970 / 8GB 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          This is true, I wouldn't try take that away form them either. All I'm saying is they're not compulsory.

          [–]OfficerNice 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Can't wait to play the last expansion though!! :D

          [–]LoveTheTeabags 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

          They have microtransactions so they can fund free DLC (like maps and modes) for Uncharted.

          [–]scratch151 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I didn't know that. That's a lot less shitty than I had assumed.

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            [–]Tyrion_Rules4690k GTX 970 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Cdpr is amazing but I still wish we got those e3 witcher graphics. Playing them on pascal/polaris maxed out would have been amazing

            [–]Xamadeox 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            What I found terrible wrong is that you chose to cherry pick Uncharted 4 when there are so many games in PC and Console with bigger Micro transactions.

            [–]fuckflyingpigsSteam Id - Call_of_portal 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            No one changes the DLC prices, that's why.

            [–]Pawel95i7 6700k / GTX 970 / 12GB Ram 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I just heard that the last expansion should give 30+ hours of gameplay (20+ where promised at the start.). You can't really compare that to a full game, anyway it's quite impressive that you get it for <20€ and have "longer fun" with it, than with some full games for 50-60€ :D

            [–]allnamesfckintaken 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            holy shit those girls are beautiful. witcher 2 and 3 always had the best costume designs and it looks like this time it's going to look even better.

            [–]kcan1Lord Canavan Of the West 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            They'll actually pay to change their name. Does this actually surprise you at all?

            [–]Sambowambo223 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            RIP far harbor.

            [–]PeaceulIntel i5 3570k | GTX 970 | 8GB RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Based gods from CDP in a nutshell

            [–]whatwhynope 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Lol, that Witcher DLC is an expansion and easily worth the cost. Or just buy the cheaper season pass.

            I got lucky and got the game and the season pass bundle for $20. Best fucking $20 I've ever spent.

            [–]phillipweisi5 3470 @ 3.4Ghz | GTX 970 | 16gb DDR -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

            uncharted points are bullshit but the game it self is as good or even better than witcher 3. in my opinion the uncharted franchise is way better than the witcher franchise.

            [–]Penile-Fluid 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Hey how dare you like one game better than the other your not aloud to do that here.

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