Richard Jones on Against Transhumanism: the Delusion of Technological Transcendence

by Socrates on May 3, 2016 6 Comments
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Against Transhumanism coverWe often tend to ignore people and books that we have strong disagreement with. And yet, often times it is precisely those interactions that are very productive in helping us re-evaluate our own positions and see things from a fresh perspective. I find that, more often than not, confronting rather than ignoring a good argument, is not only a more honest approach but can also be quite rewarding in a variety of ways. And my interview with Prof. Richard Jones is a perfect example of that. So, while I may disagree with him on his general verdict on transhumanism, I found an impressive amount of specific things we agree on. And, more importantly, I managed to learn a thing or two about nanotechnology and the human brain.
During our 75 min discussion with Prof. Richard Jones we cover a variety of interesting topics such as: his general work in nanotechnology, his book and blog on the topic; whether technological progress is accelerating or not; transhumanism, Ray Kurzweil and technological determinism; physics, Platonism and Frank J. Tipler‘s claim that “the singularity is inevitable”; the strange ideological routes of transhumanism; Eric Drexler’s vision of nanotechnology as reducing the material world to software; the over-representation of physicists on both sides of the transhumanism and AI debate; mind uploading and the importance of molecules as the most fundamental units of biological processing; Aubrey de Grey‘s quest for indefinite life extension; the importance of ethics and politics…
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Who is Richard Jones?
Richard JonesRichard Jones is Professor of Physics and Pro-Vice-Chancellor for Research and Innovation at the University of Sheffield. His first degree and PhD in Physics both come from Cambridge University, and following postdoctoral work at Cornell University, U.S.A., he was a lecturer at the University of Cambridge’s Cavendish Laboratory.  In 1998 he moved to the University of Sheffield.  He is an experimental physicist who specialises in elucidating the nanoscale structure and properties of polymers and biological macromolecules at interfaces.
He is the author of more than 190 research papers, and three books, including Soft Machines: nanotechnology and life, published by Oxford University Press in 2004.  He was the Senior Strategic Advisor for Nanotechnology for the UK’s Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council from 2007 to 2009, and is currently a member of EPSRC Council.  In 2006 he was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society, and in 2009 he won the Tabor Medal of the UK’s Institute of Physics for his contributions to nanoscience.
His blog – at www.softmachines.org – has, since 2004, discussed topics related to nanotechnology in all its varieties, together with other issues in science and innovation policy.  He has recently released the free e-book Against transhumanism: the delusion of technological transcendence.
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          • Socrates Mod > Tim Suetens 8 days ago
            This guy is a Professor in nanotechnology with a few impressive awards and administrative positions for his accomplishments in the field.
            He has devoted his work to bettering the plight of mankind in resolving some of our grandest challenges related to climate change in general and how applied nanotechnology can help us build useful materials in particular.
            Furthermore, he wrote a decent book with some useful information and references despite of his poor final conclusion.
            So, while he may be wrong on some things he certainly is not "an enemy of mankind." In fact, such ridiculous statements have often been used to first dehumanize and then abuse a variety of people throughout history. And justify hideous crimes against humanity.
            If you want to be intellectually honest and disagree with someone put forward an argument against them rather than a personal and ridiculous attack on them being "an enemy of mankind."
            This is what the Church did in order to justify burning at the stake the best and brightest people during the dark ages. It is a convenient yet most dangerous and intellectually lazy and dishonest of paths.
            So, if you look at history, usually those that have called others "enemy of mankind" have historically turned out to be exactly that.
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          • klatu 7 days ago
            "We often tend to ignore people and books that we have strong disagreement with. And yet, often times it is precisely those interactions that are very productive in helping us re-evaluate our own
            positions and see things from a fresh perspective" Wise words, easier said than done! That is because human nature generally lacks critical self scrutiny and would always prefer to see its own 'reason' validated then consider itself to be in error. This hubris, innate to the human condition is particularly acute when it come to transhumanism, which presupposes a biological foundation for all brain functionality and especially consciousness. Now that assumption looks like being blown right out of the water along with two thousand years of theological exegesis and tradition. For a 'singularity' of a much more profound consequence is already beginning! More at http://www.energon.org.uk
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              • Neoliberal Agenda 7 days ago
                Kurzweil is definitely a historic determinist. You just have to read the cover of his book to understand that,
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                  • Alan Coffey 3 days ago
                    Enjoyed this talk very much, and all opinions are worthy of discussion. Ultimately, the proof, or otherwise, of any or all of these scientific pursuits will be in their actual application in human existence. As regards 'determinism', it can come over as a bit of a fairy godmother flashing her magic wand moment, and instantly everything is changed beyond recognition. This is the way with thinking and ideas. Reality suggests a gradual integration of the science that works, and that science itself will continue to evolve, so at any given moment, we can only give our best guess as to any particular outcomes. Imho, 'Transhumanism' is the only way that our species can survive and go forward. Without changing what we are, we will just continue repeating our behaviours until extinction overtakes us. Better to upgrade our species by intention, and that way Homo Sapiens Sapiens can be allowed to fade away :):):)
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