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[–]Agastopia 3522ポイント3523ポイント  (584子コメント)

Surprised there aren't more celebrities tbh

[–]themightytiny 2202ポイント2203ポイント  (337子コメント)

Wasn't Jackie Chan also named?

Edit: Yep. I'm sure there are even more.

[–]AATroop 1687ポイント1688ポイント  (246子コメント)

Quick, name 10 things that aren't Jackie Chan.

[–]going_elsewhere 3253ポイント3254ポイント  (111子コメント)

apple, banana, strawberry, hershey's bar, ice cream, guitar, book, dvd, jackie chan, and light pole...ahh shit. I can't.

[–]MATERlAL 988ポイント989ポイント  (58子コメント)

you even took the time to type his name out subconsciously.

Jackie Chan is a sneaky mother fucker.

[–]DEEEPFREEZE 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why can't you get one right?

[–]Wrench_Jockey 371ポイント372ポイント  (36子コメント)

Longing, rusted, furnace, daybreak, seventeen, benign, nine, homecoming, one, freight car

[–]SwarezSauga 224ポイント225ポイント  (68子コメント)

Doesn't he have actual residence in China? I actually don't blame him. I'd hide my money from that government too.

[–]Stilkonwheels 358ポイント359ポイント  (63子コメント)

Jackie Chan is very pro-government in China.

[–]goodDayM 242ポイント243ポイント  (26子コメント)

I don't blame him - if you piss off the Chinese government (or people) it can mess up your career. Recent example: scandal-embroiled singer coming home?

[–]godblow 75ポイント76ポイント  (7子コメント)

He's pro govt but there's a lot of internal politics. Jackie backed the wrong people and it blew up in his face when his son was caught with marijuana. He tried to play it off by publicly shaming his son and saying he wouldn't give his son any inheritance money when he dies. When things cooled off, Jackie said he forgave his son and put him back in his will.

[–]Marmadukian 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

Man, it would have been killer for the son if Jackie died while the son was off the will.

[–]godblow 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, Jackie's wife would've gotten it and then given it to their son.

[–]Fresno-bob5000 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

You guys know a lot about Jackie chan

[–]Frond_Dishlock 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're all enrolled in Greendale Community College's 'Introduction to Chan, J' course. Chang scribbled 'Introduction to Chang' on the Dean's list of approved new classes for the term hoping for an easy pass but his g looked like a J, and it was a whole thing. You had to be there.

[–]crackerslovechees 67ポイント68ポイント  (5子コメント)

he's pro-government because he wants to make more money in China

[–]rune5 429ポイント430ポイント  (103子コメント)

European celebrities seem to favor Monaco for residency and Luxembourg for stashing away the money. No need for Panama.

[–]wrathofoprah 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

Luxembourg for stashing away the money. No need for Panama.

They aren't banking in Panama, that's where the shell company exists.

[–]ShinyCrayfish 217ポイント218ポイント  (95子コメント)

Nico Rosberg lives in Monaco and was named in Panama Papers.

These people sometimes just have crafty accountants.

I, as well as most people, try and pay as little as possible in taxes. These folks just have the resources to do it better.

EDIT: Nico not Nick. Damn phone.

[–]aerosplat 320ポイント321ポイント  (41子コメント)

Honestly it wouldn't even surprise me if these celebrities didn't even know they had money stashed in Panama. Some who take personal interest in the accounting might, but I suspect most have no clue, and just let their accountants/lawyers worry about it.

People who get outraged at individuals are missing the entire point of these Panama Papers. This issue is not about individuals. This issue is about the system itself. What's happening here is legal, and the point of the Panama Papers is to inform the public about the sheer staggering scale of legal tax avoidance so that the public can elect governments that will legislate away the loopholes. Vilifying and demonizing individuals isn't going to solve the problem.

[–]its_called_a_chortle 123ポイント124ポイント  (21子コメント)

Tax Havens are legal. Your 401k is a Tax Haven. Shell Companies are also legal.

What is illegal is using a shell company overseas to dodge taxes, and there are a lot of those in the panama papers.

[–]Phillyfreak5 474ポイント475ポイント  (110子コメント)

Messi was mentioned. The biggest celebrity of them all worldwide

[–]snorlz 426ポイント427ポイント  (36子コメント)

messi straight up got caught for tax evasion in 2013. technically, i think his dad took the fall and messi said he didnt know anything about it but no ones buying that

[–]Phillyfreak5 164ポイント165ポイント  (25子コメント)

And will never be touched for this. It will be shoved under the rug for sure

[–]entomojames 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

tbh im not suprised a professional footballer has no idea how to do his own taxes or cares about the legality of his accountants techniques. Messi probably had someone doing his taxes since he was about 15.

[–]Nickleback4life 265ポイント266ポイント  (42子コメント)

While Messi was laundering money, Ronaldo was building orphanages and playing football with babies. Ronaldo for the win.

CR7 > Messi confirmed

[–]highastronaut 215ポイント216ポイント  (31子コメント)

People think Ronaldo is an asshole because of the way he looks but by his actions he is probably a better guy than Messi.

[–]hmontoya13 205ポイント206ポイント  (19子コメント)

Ronaldo is hated for the way he acts on the pitch. But off it, he's an outstanding human being.

[–]TheGreenBat 3492ポイント3493ポイント  (62子コメント)

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secret Bank Accounts

Edit: holy cow, thanks for the gold stranger!!!

[–]turbotrixie1 1084ポイント1085ポイント  (32子コメント)

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Taxaban

[–]MajorRollin 781ポイント782ポイント  (30子コメント)

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire My Accountant

[–]riko_rikochet 573ポイント574ポイント  (27子コメント)

Harry Potter and the Order of the Internal Revenue Service

[–]skyskr4per 56ポイント57ポイント  (2子コメント)

Harry Potter and the Deathly Havens

[–]Dumiston 89ポイント90ポイント  (3子コメント)

Harry Potter and they Halve your Bloody Paycheck

[–]flemhead3 299ポイント300ポイント  (10子コメント)

Guys, Emma is just trying to make some real life Horcruxes for herself. Non-taxable Horcruxes....60 million of them.

[–]maglen69 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Her shell company is called Gringott's.

[–]alabasterasterbaler 2477ポイント2478ポイント  (103子コメント)

10 points from Gryffindor!

[–]Roboticide 1076ポイント1077ポイント  (13子コメント)

Doesn't matter, Gryffindor probably has hundreds of points in an offshore account.

[–]ironwire 177ポイント178ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's safe to say Gringotts is kind of offshore

[–]realblublu 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Doesn't matter, Dumbledore just creates more points for Gryffindor if they aren't winning.

[–]Obversa 1543ポイント1544ポイント  (84子コメント)

"50 points from Gryffindor," said Snape with a sneer.

"What the hell, man?" Harry Reddit yelled. "You're dead, and you still want to pick on Hermione?"

"Ah, if it isn't your newest hypocrisy," Snape droned. "Unlike you, I find the object of your...affections...to have been an insufferable know-it-all. Now, she is an insufferable tax evader."

[–]dummy-head 507ポイント508ポイント  (63子コメント)

"What the hell, man? You're dead"

omg spoiler

[–]TheCodexx 450ポイント451ポイント  (52子コメント)

The actor played Snape died.

[–]DonBellicose 113ポイント114ポイント  (21子コメント)

Is this true? I'm actually sad now. That guys voice was amazing.

[–]darkwater_ 220ポイント221ポイント  (7子コメント)

This isn't the Emma Watson leak we wanted, but the one we deserve.

[–]gym00p 2517ポイント2518ポイント  (177子コメント)

“Emma (like many high profile individuals) set up an offshore company for the sole purpose of protecting her anonymity and safety,” her spokesperson said in a statement.

I guess these people just think we're fucking idiots if they think we'll believe that.

[–]Huop 470ポイント471ポイント  (14子コメント)

Man, they would have been better off if they hadn't said anything.

[–]bert_shekelstein 83ポイント84ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's the problem? I have all of my Sybian purchases, repairs, and upgrades invoiced to GryffindorDelights LLC.

[–]SaucyPlatypus 49ポイント50ポイント  (4子コメント)

You don't have to believe it, it just has to hold up in a court of law. If it does then they really don't give a damn.

[–]BartWellingtonson 209ポイント210ポイント  (54子コメント)

Isn't it possible, without proof one way or the other, that she IS using a Panama company for anonymity and not tax evasion?

[–]12345rp54321 142ポイント143ポイント  (12子コメント)

If she wanted anonymity that's fine. She's just going to have to show that for however long shes had an offshore account, that shes still been keeping track of and paying her taxes to the government right down to the penny.

[–]TagMeAJerk 137ポイント138ポイント  (8子コメント)

so basically a tax audit...which should be private*

*as private as tax audits are supposed to be

[–]l4gvog 82ポイント83ポイント  (1子コメント)

Does this mean we can expect her to resign as PM of Iceland?

[–]ImObviouslyKidding 4365ポイント4366ポイント  (917子コメント)

Pay your Fucking Taxes

[–]All_Fallible 1759ポイント1760ポイント  (510子コメント)

It's the most patriotic thing the average citizen can do. In a country where we lambast any politician who dares not wear a flag pin over their lack of patriotism, I find it insane that so many people have trouble with the idea of supporting their country and societal structure on a financial level.

Edit: Part of my response to u/combatmuffin addresses a lot of replies...

I still stand by my earlier statement in that even if the current tax code is unacceptable and the government is corrupt, the idea of paying taxes and supporting your country with some of the wealth you earned here (wherever 'here' is for anyone reading this) is a patriotic duty and one of the very few that regular citizens are beholden to. Society doesn't magically cost less to manage because someone paid less in taxes. The tax burden just invariable gets shifted even more unfavorably in terms of equity. I believe that's how the tax code has become what it is. The money being wasted in corrupt schemes should make people demand transparency, not lower taxes. We should feel the desire to engage and correct, not whine and neglect.

[–]OnTheTerlet 717ポイント718ポイント  (261子コメント)

I can't remember who but I saw a comedian say something like that once. He said you should be happy to pay your taxes because that means you live in a country that isn't shit and live a nice life and all that. I haven't felt so bad about paying taxes since then.

[–]BulletCatofBrooklyn 689ポイント690ポイント  (79子コメント)

"Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."

-U.S. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes

[–]_dook 232ポイント233ポイント  (61子コメント)

To paraphrase Tim Cook testifying to congress: We pay every penny we owe. If there's a problem, look in the mirror.

[–]UULTRA 3243ポイント3244ポイント  (271子コメント)

Naughty naughty Emma.

Net worth: $60M. I don't buy that privacy crap for a second, just as crooked as the rest of them.

[–]Bahunter22 431ポイント432ポイント  (105子コメント)

Legit question incoming - would she have personally set it up or is it something her manager or parents could have set up and had her sign the papers as another banking document without disclosing what they actually were? Would that be something a manager or CPA be able to do for their client without full disclosure? I'm not defending her or anything, I'm genuinely curious if that could be a possibility.

Edit: I am in no way trying to defend her. With her earning a large sum of at such a young age, I would think that would all be set up for her.

[–]s1fsad3f23cas23 258ポイント259ポイント  (32子コメント)

If you're going through a middle man with your investments it's really doubtful you'll know wtf your investments actually are and how they're invested. You'll have a rough idea and it should be possible to get exact details but 99% of people never look into it. That's the entire reason for having an investment manager. To let them worry about that shit while you do what it is rich people do.

[–]electricfistula 46ポイント47ポイント  (9子コメント)

99% of people never look into it.

"Here's my tens of millions of dollars - don't bore me with the details."

[–]prtyflkjdie 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would that be something a manager or CPA be able to do for their client without full disclosure?

Even if he discloses its unlikely she'll understand wtf he's talking about in terms of complex tax shelters. In private wealth management some of the most brilliant clients don't understand the basics of finance.

[–]GloriousNK 680ポイント681ポイント  (46子コメント)

What if everyone indicated in the papers actually did nothing wrong? They did nothing wrong. Must... Protect... harrypottergirl

[–]Bombast- 159ポイント160ポイント  (14子コメント)

You joke, but that is the actual mentality of a lot of people when it comes to celebrities. Its really disturbing.

[–]TravisAC 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Being wealthy doesn't make a person crooked or corrupt.

[–]FormalChicken 5161ポイント5162ポイント x2 (416子コメント)

The real itt: all comments about how the comments are defending Watson. No comments defending Watson. Just comments about the comments.

[–]Gonna_Rape_You 1741ポイント1742ポイント  (60子コメント)

The article is probably rising so fast that the comments defending Emma that people initially saw have already been buried.

[–]CrippledOrphans 60ポイント61ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's like on youtube where one person says 'religion' and then everyone starts shitting, "I don't know why we have to bring religion into this guys."

[–]panda_gravy 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because most people aren't online for actual discussion, we're all just here to shitpost and spout our pre-prepped speeches. Any opportunity can and will be fully utilized.

[–]mianoob 425ポイント426ポイント  (200子コメント)

I was scrolling looking for anyone defending her too and it looks like there is a new Reddit consensus

Emma Watson - tax evading prick

[–]Marcuskac 293ポイント294ポイント  (69子コメント)

And I always thought she would never get to that point where she gets "hated" on Reddit.
Man...the world seems so strange now, it is twisted man, twisted.

[–]Nick357 138ポイント139ポイント  (37子コメント)

That's why I never understand celebrity idolizations. They always come crashing down.

[–]kmacku 205ポイント206ポイント  (27子コメント)

Except Bob Ross and Mr. Rogers. Man...if something damning ever came about about either of those guys, I think my world would come crashing down. Okay, maybe that isn't idolatry per se because there's not a lot of hero worship that goes on with those two—they were just genuinely nice guys. But still.

[–]ojajaja 61ポイント62ポイント  (15子コメント)

Only because they're dead. If they were still alive they'd either do something weird and disagreeable in their old age, or the media would eventually dig up dirt on them.

[–]Roboticide 228ポイント229ポイント  (33子コメント)

Just to throw that out there, but how many celebrities, not just her but many of them, just get a money manager or something and have them handle most of it. Not that that absolves them of guilt, but I imagine most are pretty busy and just trust someone else to manage their money. Does anyone really think she went into an office and said "How do I evade taxes?"

Again, I don't think any are really guiltless, but I agree with the ones saying that a big issue here is that tax laws have loopholes that allow such shenanigans.

[–]CMDR_Qardinal 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

In the words of some or other comedian: "Maybe we should just lock up all the super rich people, just until we figure out exactly what's been going on here then."

[–]_Kyu 57ポイント58ポイント  (1子コメント)

as always. sort by controversial and you'l find them I think

[–]Ayrex 160ポイント161ポイント  (15子コメント)

There's the comment about how all the comments are commenting about the comments defending her. we did it reddit!!!

[–]32VDOHC 617ポイント618ポイント  (29子コメント)

However, the spokesperson said she does not receive any tax or monetary advantages whatsoever.

This is like the equivalent of that show Cops, when a cop pulls a bag of dope rubber banded to the dude's driver's license out his pocket and he's all like "that ain't mine".

[–]TractionJackson 336ポイント337ポイント  (14子コメント)

“Officer, that cocaine is just to remind me I’m in control of my own sobriety.”

[–]thisisah0rribleidear 34ポイント35ポイント  (2子コメント)

Your analogy is pretty inaccurate. It's been said several times that not everyone named in the papers was involved in tax evasion.

[–]Steampunk_Moustache 323ポイント324ポイント  (29子コメント)

Guess she's all for equality until it comes to her finances.

[–]WayToLife 58ポイント59ポイント  (3子コメント)

I personally love it when beautiful people with underwear model boyfriends lecture me about societal attitudes about body image.

[–]Kronos9898 2356ポイント2357ポイント  (224子コメント)

Lol, now Reddit is like: "well its not actually illegal."

Not for anyone else though, they are all horrible human beings.

[–]disposable_me_0001 1140ポイント1141ポイント  (30子コメント)

Everyone on this thread should be required to wank first before posting to ensure the most unbiased comments.

[–]GT5_k 374ポイント375ポイント  (13子コメント)

This technique was really difficult for me when I wanted to comment on Sepp Blatter and the FIFA scandal.

[–]n-simplex 87ポイント88ポイント  (6子コメント)

Dude, there's no shame in asking for help. I'll be here for you whenever you need it.

[–]gztichy 130ポイント131ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh, no, starting wasn't the problem. Stopping was.

Unless that's how you'll help in which case FUCKIN TRY ME

[–]ellipticspider 3784ポイント3785ポイント  (584子コメント)

Wow. I mean I love Emma Watson as much as the next guy but when a politician or big business owners name is on here they're scum but when it's Emma she's reasonable. Reddit double standards at their finest.

Also since my other comment got buried, I'm not saying she did anything wrong. I'm saying that everyone assumed that people on this list were horrible human beings regardless of the actual reason they did it, but now that the hot chicks name is on there maybe it's not so bad. That's the double standard, that politicians are cheating the system and they're monsters but hot actresses are using it and it's somehow okay.

[–]Spooky_Ghost_AMA 1569ポイント1570ポイント  (59子コメント)

She holds her book of spells high, she puts it down and then she lies.

[–]10dollarbagel 95ポイント96ポイント  (6子コメント)

Every comment here seems to be critical, or predicting Reddit will be CO flicted or critical. What are you responding to, or are you just getting in on that contrarian karma?

[–]ffffantomas 723ポイント724ポイント  (237子コメント)

I don't even get why she is so loved. Is it because she was a cute girl in a movie nerds love amd we are on a website dominated by nerds?

Ah. It is? Ok. Nevermind

[–]_Goose_ 457ポイント458ポイント  (146子コメント)

She's hot but people are missing the fact they the core age group of reddit grew up with her watching her grow up at the same time.

So she's a hot girl reddit grew up with.

I'd bang Topanga before I'd bang Hermione. That's because Topanga was the main girl in my thoughts growing up.

[–]StankyMung 189ポイント190ポイント  (54子コメント)

Kelly Kapowski for me

[–]RoyallRedditor 86ポイント87ポイント  (42子コメント)

DJ Tanner. I'm old.

[–]PouponMacaque 157ポイント158ポイント  (8子コメント)

Going out on a limb here and saying I disagree - it's fine for her to have done these things, because I have jacked it to her and she's a similar age to me. Maybe we will get married because I defended her online.

[–]jomiran 63ポイント64ポイント  (10子コメント)

That is one hell of a high-res pic they used. I can count her pores.

[–]were_llama 45ポイント46ポイント  (11子コメント)

Can't you make a normal shell company in the UK for anonymity purposes?

[–]Pas__ 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

UK probably has a nice web interface where you can just query the owner, managing director and other related persons/entities of a company.

[–]warscarr 75ポイント76ポイント  (11子コメント)

I can't be the only person who isn't remotely surprised by this? Rich people tax dodge, whether you consider them nice or role models or whatever, never be surprised when you find out they tax dodge.

[–]Heknarf 509ポイント510ポイント  (78子コメント)

Ooops, reddit is going to be conflicted now.

Will we see the same level of vitriol that David Cameron got?

[–]direwolf71 70ポイント71ポイント  (24子コメント)

Here's a bit more info about how shell companies have invaded the U.S. real estate market, allowing celebrities to protect their privacy while also opening the door to money laundering, drug trafficking and corruption.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/04/12/how-secretive-shell-companies-shape-the-u-s-real-estate-market/

[–]alerionfire 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who knew Gringotts had a branch in Panama.....