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[–]gee_ohm 102ポイント103ポイント  (84子コメント)

Imagine if CoD said that Modern Warfare Remastered was its own game and that you didn't need to buy the new one to get it. Would that change things?

[–]BorgBuddies 111ポイント112ポイント  (55子コメント)

Or instead of releasing Infinite Warfare, they just released the remastered COD4 with all the classic maps.

That would've been a good move.

[–]Ec1ge 115ポイント116ポイント  (40子コメント)

Or better yet -

Took Take a "break" from releasing any newer games, just to focus all efforts on:

  • Remastering COD4 (getting back to basics)

  • Creating a new fucking game engine, for once

That would've been a better move (although certain engines can take more than 3+ years to create.)

 

EDIT

 

So fucking tired that I spelt out "took" instead of "take" LOL. Grammar fixed.

[–]s3R3Nity404 15ポイント16ポイント  (24子コメント)

Also a big point they are missing is the "e-sports" thingy. Honestly, neither CoD nor BF produced any game that can be even considered as a potential competitive game. BF is not an e-sport by the nature of the game so it is fine but COD just sucks in execution. With all the shit storm in the game it cannot be played competitively. They could easily remaster Cod4 and made it's multiplayer a boots on the ground competitive shoter game. Add skill groups, match making and balance the game then you have an amazing title. You can even make it cheap with lots of micro-transaction cosmetics like CSGO.

[–]iCUmanpwn3dzilla 6ポイント7ポイント  (22子コメント)

Too much chance in MW for it to ever become an e-sports game.

[–]Sterinn 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The original MW had potential for e-sports once it had been modded. The mod was called promod and was fantastic imo. I really want it to become a part of the remaster as well.

[–]beatokko 5ポイント6ポイント  (20子コメント)

I'm wondering if CS:GO can't be ported to console.

[–]s3R3Nity404 11ポイント12ポイント  (15子コメント)

CSGO is a console game. It was made and released for consoles not PC. Then Valve realized that it has potential. Now here we are 800k+ monthly players. Game earns $200m+ annually on PC

Edit: you can't play it properly on console as there is no aim assist and putting in aim assist defeats the whole purpose of the game.

[–]beatokko 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh, shit, never knew it was released on console! My apologies.

Although I don't own a PS3 anymore.

[–]beatokko 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

I hadn't realized you mentioned the impossibility of playing it properly on console because of controller aim. I think that debate is getting old, honestly, some players have mad skills on console, it's just a matter of getting used to it. Of course it's a steeper learning curve, but the only thing you can't do on console is assigning a hotkey to a single button. The rest is practice.

[–]Sterinn -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

You can't really the match the insane speed and precision the best players have with a mouse and keyboard, no matter the skills of the player with a controller, imho.

Not to take anything away from skillful console players, I just think there is a clear reason for why all competitive FPS games are played on PC.

[–]beatokko 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

The speed and precision a KB+M can give you, of course, can't be matched with just 2 thumbs. However, just dissing the idea there are no skilled players on console is just the same old "PCMR" worn out argument, which is ridiculous.

[–]AgretSilverSquadron 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Considering it's available on Xbox 360 and PS3 since 2012 and the Xbox 360 version can be played on the Xbox1 I'm going to go with yes, it can be ported to console.

[–]s3R3Nity404 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

CSGO is a console game. It was made and released for consoles. The idea of CSGO on PC came later then Valve realized it was one of the most stupidest decisions ever to release it on consoles and even more stupid not to release it on PC

[–]AgretSilverSquadron 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wasn't being literal when I said "yes, it can be ported to console", obviously it exists on console per the rest of my message. They stopped updating the console version to focus purely on the PC version and the changes they made have turned it into the esports juggernaut it is today. They might make an updated port for XB1/PS4 but doesn't seem too likely. CS never fit too well with the console crowd.

[–]Sterinn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Call of duty: Modern warfare (the one they are remastering) had pretty good e-sports potential in its promod-era. I played it back then and it was amazing. I liked it much better than CSS.

However the simple fact that it had to be modded into the game kind of shows that the developer didn't care for the e-sports factor.

[–]BorgBuddies 30ポイント31ポイント  (7子コメント)

Assassins Creed took a wild turn like that.

Black Flag and Rouge were good games in the new direction.

[–]hopefullyhelpfulplz 28ポイント29ポイント  (5子コメント)

Black flag was so much fun. The game could probably have cut out all the assassin stuff and still been great, the boat combat is just so satisfying.

[–]BorgBuddies 30ポイント31ポイント  (4子コメント)

Exactly!

Just calling it BLACK FLAG and cutting out the assassin stuff would've made it a wonderful pirate game.

[–]flannelly_found 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hell yeah. I bought it on 360 first, then replayed on PS4 once it came down in price - mainly because i just wanted to have a nice tropical game to sail my boat around in ha. I loved the visuals in that game....

[–]BorgBuddies 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

I sang along the songs too.

Just taking the ship out for a cruise was so much fun, all the twisting rivers and narrow paths made it for a fun experience.

[–]NovaCyntax 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Currently going for the platinum trophy. Story as assassin's was lacking for me, but the pirating was so awesome.

[–]IBlackKiteI 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remastering COD4 (getting back to basics)

Yeah sounds solid

Creating a new fucking game engine, for once

Hey get outta here now you're just talking too much sense

[–]AC3R665FX-8350/GTX780 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep they gotta ditch that old Quake 3 engine that the engine is based off of.

[–]jinqsi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or even better yet, have used their wild profits three years ago to pay for a new engine WHILE creating a new game and them supporting it with good content. They could have named it Shmaddle Shmield Shmive.

[–]MonkeyBotherer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait, are they still running on a modified HL2 engine? I stopped keeping track of cod years ago.

[–]BonerfiedSwaggler69 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it's the same engine it would have been the quake 3 engine, but surely it would have been changed by now... HL was source btw

[–]RobGetMeABottleRobGetMeABottle 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

What if they combined modern warfare 1+2 like they did with that tony hawk hd thing?

[–]BorgBuddies 21ポイント22ポイント  (5子コメント)

why not the entire MW+1MW2+MW3 into a single linear game with added stuff that fills in the gaps in the story.

THAT would be an awesome game with a worthy campaign.

From the first time we meet Capt Price and Soap to the last scene with Capt Price alone.

[–]Ec1ge 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's Activision - maximize profits by remastering 1 game at a time; jipping you off from a possibility of that happening. Also, remastering 3+ games all in one go is a ridiculous pain in the ass, with no guarantee of working directly from the box.

Source - Master Chief Collection

  • Although at least Bungie made actually new engines, to their benefit.

[–]Techloss 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except.... MW1-3 are on the same bloody engine. MW3 was basically a mod for MW2.

iirc Halo went through at least two engines between 1 and 4.

[–]tarishimo 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Did they ever fix the Master Chief Collection? last I heard the multiplayer was still FUBAR.

[–]Super_Deeg 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's fine now. It can take a bit to get into a match, but its very rare for that to happen.

[–]Ec1ge 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have never played the MCC -even when it released- since I don't have an XBONE. But I've been following the news (covering it) from sources such as GameSpot, IGN [ugh], etc. - who've mostly said that the multiplayer was fixed a year after release.

  • As for population count, I wouldn't know how many people actually still play it today; but I hope enough passionate fans still are.

  • Halo 1 - 3 for life!

[–]XDforlife 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

idiots would still cry after playing it

now people whine about exosuits, if these retards had to replay cod4 there would be nonstop bitching about martyrdom, fragx3+sonicboom, last stand, juggernaut, etc

it's the "cool" thing to complain about COD now, because its "for kids xd". we like battlefield because whats more fun than driving around in a tank on conquest for an hour, or throwing grenades at a door in lockers.

[–]FuryofYuri 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Attack Chopper all day erry day. I've actually been preferring the Little Bird as of late.

[–]UentsiKapwepwe 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

People can bitches about Marty as much as they want but I'll be dawned if it want a good thing because it slowed down the pace of the game and prevented all the spamming run and gun and knitting horseshit that made the game what it is today

[–]BigScarWu 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

Is that the only way to get cod4 remastered? They seriously aren't releasing an independent version?

[–]KidCujoCujobo 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

People are speculating that they will release it months later after the release, but it would be bullshit if they don't.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_PSN_CODE 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

They almost definitely because they'll have to make a profit somehow. The only who will buy Infinite Warfare are hardcore fanboys and people who can easily afford to buy any game they feel like buying. Everyone else will just not buy it and then the money-whoring Activision will release it by itself so people might actually buy it.

[–]Count_CriticCountCritic 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

There'll be plenty of people who think it will be the only way to get the remaster and those same people will probably be pissed when a few months later Activision says "lol here's CoD 4 on it's own".

[–]Techloss 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is the exact reason I'm waiting.

I'm not terribly interested in the titanfall clone CoD is turning into tbh, as I've got titanfall :)

[–]angrylawyer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I bet the pricing will be like:

  • COD4 remastered: $60
  • COD17 Infinity War + COD4: $80

[–]ONI_Agent_LockeONI Agent Locke 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

People would have complained that they were just rereleasing an old game and not anything new.

[–]Techloss 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Except that its got the gameplay mechanics people liked in CoD. I.E. no exo suit bullshit, or ridiculous killstreaks.

[–]FuryofYuri 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

My gf plays cod. Isn't there a "core" game mode of sorts where there's no exos enabled? Pretty sure I've seen her play a game or two like that.

[–]Techloss 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah there is but its like a ghost town every time you play it.

[–]lakerswiz 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh shit, I wonder why?!

Probably because the majority of people out there actually enjoy that shit! Probably why CoD was the best selling game in 2014 and 2015 and the shit fest that was Ghosts was the 2nd best selling game in 2013 only behind GTA V.

[–]TheJoshider10 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ghosts wasn't top because it was freaking GTA man. Had nothing to do with its quality. But excluding GTA, a shit COD still got top.

[–]Pluwo4 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It probably would have made a small difference, but most people probably don't mind that much in comparison to people that really follow COD. The anti COD circlejerk is just really strong this year.

[–]Lewd_Banana 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if that was the case, I still wouldn't buy it. This year is already packed with FPS games, Overwatch, Rising Storm 2, BF1, Deus Ex (not MP, but whatever) and a couple others. I'm already spoiled for choice when it comes to FPS, and that is ignoring some of the other titles coming out this year that I am looking forward to. Not to mention that CoD4 is still $50 USD on the Australian steam store, and I wouldn't think that standalone a remaster would be any cheaper.

[–]Roseland 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bro, fish AI in Ghosts.

[–]Something_Syck[BOOP]Garenator 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

wait, is buying infinite warfare the only way to get remastered MW1?

Fuck that noise, I was actually really stoked for remastered MW1, but not if I have to buy IW in order to get it.

[–]The_Original_O 130ポイント131ポイント  (8子コメント)

Won't let me read the article without signing in or disabling AdBlock... Based on these comments it's not worth the effort

[–]Arkarillian[74NK]Arkarillian 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yep not worth it. I'm not turning my ad block off for that.

[–]Santa_009 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have Pi-Hole on my network so even disabling Ad-Block it wouldn't let me through, most sites aren't this pathetic... so fuck them :/

[–]Mjone77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I found that if you enter forbes, immediately hit the back button (or at least before the please disable message appears), then click on the link again you skip the "please disable adblock" page when using pi-hole.

[–]Fayko 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

protip if you click on the down arrow on the forbes adblock gate and turn it off for this page only, you can continue to use forbes as normal with adblock on without seeing their adwall.

[–]VenomBVenom11065 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seeing as how they hosted ads with malware when they started the "no adblock" thing.... yeah. Ignore Forbes.

[–]The_R4ke 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I clicked on the link again and it worked, definitely not worth it.

[–]JoshHamil 418ポイント419ポイント  (27子コメント)

This article is terrible.

They're basically saying that there is a bot upvoting BF and downvoting CoD.

So apparently our opinions are "wrong" according to him, and it has to be bots! -_-

[–]SoManySparrows 117ポイント118ポイント  (13子コメント)

Yeah seriously! That article is wack! Both on a journalistic level and on a publication level. Wtf Forbes, I thought you were cooler than this.

There was nothing remotely insight about the games in the article. His bias showed towards COD, even though he claimed he didn't.

This is the journalism that makes me sad, we should start our own news media!

[–]Drdres 94ポイント95ポイント  (3子コメント)

This isn't journalism. Forbes started hosting blogs for idiots a while back, which is why so much gaming ''news'' is coming out from their site. They should really shut the whole thing down, it's hurting their reputation.

[–]Khiva 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

And yet, here we are.

Clickbaited.

[–]Lumpyguy 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not really. It seems a large part of the people here didn't read the article at all on account of forbes telling them to turn adblock off.

I actually appreciate forbes for this. It's like they're training people not to be clickbaited by trying to force their readers to do something they will never do. I'm 100% in favor of their adblock warning.

[–]C4ples 36ポイント37ポイント  (1子コメント)

I stopped paying attention to Forbes after they put a site-wide welcome page that blocks those with ad-blockers.

I know I can bypass it. I know how to bypass it. Fuck that. I'm too lazy and their shit isn't worth reading three quarters of the time anyway.

[–]Vorrez 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

yeah "ad-light" i counted 7 through the whole article lol! not going back to that site anytime soon..

[–]tarishimo 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope /r/technology goes through with banning links to their site (and anyone who blocks users with adblock). I fucking hate Forbes.

[–]UncleS1am 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

OP linked to a Forbes contributor blog. They are usually junk.

[–]VenomBVenom11065 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Forbes is the site that told people to turn off adblock to view articles then gave them malware. lol

[–]StormStooper 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha man fuck Forbes. Ever since they blocked users with adblock, they've lost so many customers, and for good reason.

[–]ezone2kil 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

MFW an article I read was written by a 'journalist' that is biased towards COD (where Fuck your mom is a greeting)

[–]the_Ex_LurkerWeelious_225 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Forbes is just a site where any random idiot can share their articles.

[–]roogug 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

I believe it. I'm as hyped as can be as a Battlefield fan and couldn't care less about Cod but something smells a little fishy about this.

[–]StormStooper 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's the hate train dude. 1.2 mil people don't dislike the trailer, but they downvoted bc everyone else did.

[–]austex_mike 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have no idea what the author of this article is having trouble understanding. CoD took the Pelican and looks from Halo, then they added some story with "settlement defense front" which sounds an awful lot like Titanfall. The game just looks like a mashup of Titanfall and Halo to be honest. As someone who has been playing first person shooters since Wolfenstein in the early 90s, CoD IW looked like it brings nothing new. I honestly was not intrigued by anything I saw in that trailer.

Battlefield 1 takes us to a place we have rarely been taken to, WWI. The trailer shows trenches, deserts with horses, zeppelins, all things we rarely get to experience in video games. As a longtime gamer BF1 looks so much more original.

That said, CoD will sell just fine. The MW remastering will ensure that plenty of people will buy it.

[–]jplr98 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

So apparently our opinions are "wrong" according to him

The article doesn't say anything like that. Not once did he use the word "wrong". And of course bots are involved; BF has an extremely large fanbase and it's very unlikely that none of it would do something to artificially inflate the trailer's number of likes.

[–]I_hate_alot_a_lot 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had no problem with CoD until they decided to bundle the new CoD with CoD4 Remastered. When I started seeing the tweets, and Reddit posts about how many dislikes the new CoD trailer was getting, I signed into my YouTube to dislike the video specifically because of what they decided to do with CoD4.

When you're marketing determines that you'll sell more of the new CoD by attaching a separate, older and re-skinned CoD, then it might be time to focus on improving the new CoD(s) instead of holding consumers hostage.

What were they thinking?

[–]kexik 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not just article, Forbes doesn't even let me visit the site without disabling adblock, not gonna disable it tho

[–]lakerswiz 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is without a doubt bots that are doing it.

[–]Brewtown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do yourself a favor and look at the comments on COD IW Facebook posts. It's a total bitchfest/shitshow.

[–]JueJueBeanJueJueBean1990 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't believe you disabled your ad blocker.

[–]spectre308 64ポイント65ポイント  (8子コメント)

I know that the bulk of us prefer BF to CoD, but man that's got to sting for the CoD devs/franchise owners. I kinda feel bad for the chain of decisions they've made over the years to back themselves into a corner like that.

[–]Techloss 73ポイント74ポイント  (6子コメント)

You mean decisions the Activision suits forced on them leading to almost the entire original MW dev team going 'fuck this we're out' and founding Respawn studios. Which released titanfall which then provided the inspiration for most of the movement mechanics in BO2 onwards.

Which is kind ironic when you think about it.

[–]spectre308 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wasn't aware of how often things changed hands

[–]Schmich 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You mean between the studios? Except for the very start of COD they've always been doing it in cycles. It's actually not a bad idea as the teams get more than a year to create the game (and the DLCs) and each team will pitch in new ideas and take from the others.

[–]want2playzombies 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

IW has been shot since MW2, MW3 was a joke.

[–]wessaaah 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I loved MW3, sorry you didn't like it.

[–]want2playzombies 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

game was lack luster compared to BO1

[–]BlindSpider11 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea, Activision destroys everything it touches for the most part.

They denied Jason West and Vincent Zampella their royalties from Modern Warfare 2's sales. This made both of them and a number of other Infinity Ward employees leave the studio and form Respawn Entertainment which is now an EA owned studio. They now have the Titanfall IP which so far has been successful and now has the second entry releasing this fall.

Activision bought Bungie and we all know how Destiny's story and campaign were butchered and there are rumors stating its all because of Activision wanting things to be different. Now a lot of the legends at Bungie (Martin O'Donnell and Joseph Staten) have left the company and started other endeavors. Marty even had to sue to get his Bungie stocks back.

The fact of it is; Activision is an atrocious company that has atrocious business tactics.

[–]Schmich 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They'll still sell well and most likely way more than BF in any case. It's like Apple releasing a mediocre product. It will still sell plenty.

[–]Urnquei 17ポイント18ポイント  (29子コメント)

ELI5: Why is there so much hate against the COD trailer?

[–]Norua 63ポイント64ポイント  (10子コメント)

  1. The Remaster is what people really want but they have to pay 80 bucks to get it, which is insane. It's basically Activision force feeding their new game to the fanbase.

  2. It's the fifth COD in a row set in the future. And it looks exactly like the ones before. People are tired / bored of it. Plain and simple.

  3. The trailer was meh and looked bad. They had the brilliant idea to use Space Oddity but used a terrible cover (on the year of Bowie's death too).

[–]Pluwo4 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

The better Battlefield trailer also didn't help and like always there seems to be people that take COD vs BF very seriously, with the BF fans disliking the COD trailer on purpose.

The trailer wasn't great, but it isn't a million dislikes terrible.

[–]Xuvial 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The trailer wasn't great, but it isn't a million dislikes terrible.

Agree. However the ratio of likes vs dislikes is also pretty bad. It should be seen as message to Activision.

[–]GloryHol3srrchode 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

I also aspire to the "less is more" mentality, especially for reveal trailers. Nitpicking here, but the article is also wrong:

we know almost nothing about these games, and have seen nothing from them other than sixty seconds of footage and a few screenshots

Battlefield 1 was sixty seconds and got people excited with an interesting idea, and a well shot, well "scored", 60 second teaser trailer.

Call of Duty on the other hand spoon fed us almost 4 whole minutes of cookie cutter "we've never seen anything like this threat before", when its existence marks the 5th future setting of "we've never seen a threat like this before".

Battlefield did what a reveal trailer should. CoD did what even a launch trailer should not

[–]eggydrums115EDelCHINO 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Couldn't have said it better. Despite the blatant unprofessionalism of that one DICE dev that talked smack about the COD trailer, he was right. The COD trailer looked extremely amateur for a multi-million dollar production like that.

(I understand people eat it up because of the brand, but I'm pointing out the artistic merit here)

[–]tuonenjoutsen 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wasn't all too disappointed until the horrible Space Oddity cover kicked in. At that point I closed the video.

[–]Xuvial 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The trailer was meh and looked bad.

It really was. I know CoD isn't exactly a graphics powerhouse, but the filters/blurring and textures used in that trailer were awful.

[–]StormStooper 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's worth mentioning:

  1. The Internet's hate train mob mentality

[–]like-a-bbas 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not defending EA, but if you have Amazon Prime you can actually get both Infinity War and COD4 for $60. I did, at least. The downside is it is being shipped with 3-5 day service instead of 2 day :\

[–]dmmarck 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Are you sure about the shipping time? And if so, why is it shipping late?

[–]pocket_mulch 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are shipping the returned copies.

/s

[–]BradPhusion 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly haven't been such a big fan of the Call of Duty series, so I haven't played the last few games to use as a comparison, but I do believe some of the dislike is towards the Call of Duty 4: Remastered Edition being sold only through the Legacy Edition, and not standalone, which people would have preferred, as Call of Duty 4 was considered one of the greater Call of Duty games.

That's the vibe I'm getting anyway. That, and I think people dislike Call of Duty being set in the future, but there will always be conflict with game's design.

[–]Techloss 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

More scifi bullshit and not a back to basics approach like fans have been screaming for for years.

[–]UentsiKapwepwe 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not only that but it looks like a complete rip off of Titan falls settings and aesthetics. I can't stand all these video games piggybacking off of each other for a lack of imagination. Destiny for example had characters posing at the start of a match. Now cod and halo 5 have to have their characters strut around making poses and saying cringe quotes like a bunch of douchey frat boys. Titan fall even had the idea to replace kill streaks with playing cards and sure enough, guess what happened...

[–]michaelsted1 1ポイント2ポイント  (12子コメント)

The usual Cod vs BF

[–]ClavusClavusElite 8ポイント9ポイント  (11子コメント)

Exactly. Just looking at the comments of the BF1 reveal trailer, it's as if BF1's popularity is purely fuelled by people dissing CoD. Pretty cringeworthy if you'd ask me.

[–]DARIF 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not true. The comments were filled with criticism about the greedy forced bundling and space setting the day the trailer was released. Youtubers were taking shots at the trailer on Twitter immediately. Faze Hazz (200k followers former CoD YouTuber): "Can I buy MW separately or do I have to buy the Halo 6 bundle?" 1400+ rt, 2/05/16

[–]ClavusClavusElite 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was talking about comments on the BF1 trailer, not the CoD one.

[–]DARIF 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, I should have replied to the parent comment. My bad.

[–]The_Thought_Police_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have to disagree. For a major series to do something as off the wall as this is a real surprise and really excites a lot of gamers. Especially seeing as the trailer was so cool. The YouTube comments are stupid because they're YouTube comments.

[–]ClavusClavusElite 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, the trailer is awesome. But those comments just spoil the party. Wish they'd just disable comments on these videos, it's not like anyone ever said anything important in them.

[–]Cristian_01 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

People are tired of futuristic games.

BF1's popularity is purely fuelled by people dissing CoD

That's the main reason why there's all this hate for this new CoD

[–]lakerswiz 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

No they're not lol. You guys keep saying this shit as if a few opinions on reddit make it true. Black Ops 3 was a futuristic game and it sold more than any other game in 2015 in the 6 weeks it was available.

Before BF1 was revealed, far more people were hoping for Battlefield 2143 or whatever it was than any other type of Battlefield game.

You guys keep repeating this 'they hate future games' shit and it isn't true at all.

[–]Cristian_01 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just wondering, how do you explain the like to dislike ratio of CoD's reveal trailer? Do you think it's all due to CoD4 remastered?

[–]lakerswiz 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

lol no not at all. Thinking that is pretty fucking stupid. It's without a doubt bots. The rate of dislikes isn't proportional to the views the video gets. Bots don't view a video so it doesn't count as a view, but it can add a dislike to it.

CoD trailer has 600,000 more total dislikes / likes than the BF1 trailer yet it has 6,000,000 less views.

[–]Cristian_01 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see, thanks for sharing that.

[–]tehrand0mzWarmasterOrion3 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe more specifically, they're tired of futuristic CoD games. BF1 looks awesome but I'd still kill to get BF2143.

[–]lakerswiz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Battlefield fan boys are wildly insecure.

[–]Chitowngaming 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

That was some bizarrely amateurish writing to be a Forbes article.

[–]ONI_Agent_LockeONI Agent Locke 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

Forbes now has more open article publishing. It's almost like a blog site now, just dressed up nice and professional.

[–]Chitowngaming 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea I guess paying a "contributor" is much less expensive than an actual staff writer, starting to see this trend on many sites.

[–]Neuchacho 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Forbes is slowly making the transition to being Gawker-lite.

[–]Teh_Mongoose 17ポイント18ポイント  (6子コメント)

Original Dead Island trailer was best trailer. Fucking amazing. Shame the game wasn't so good.

[–]Techloss 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

It was ok, buggy, but ok. It just wasn't what the trailer promised.

[–]PronatoThePronato [CTE] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I have high hopes for Dead Island 2 though. Dying Light seemed like a solid title, but didn't have the awesome fighting mechanic that made Dead Island so great for me.

Like seriously, after rewatching all of the walking dead to prepare for S6B, I dusted off my Xbox 360, plugged it in and went whack-a-mole on some zombies for an hour or two. Nothing more, nothing less.

[–]bbbbBeaver 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought dying light had much better gameplay mechanics and weapons. But Dead Islands atmosphere in the resort was literally so good. I wish the entire Dead Island game was set at the resort because the jungle and the town maps were really boring and bland.

[–]PronatoThePronato [CTE] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't say too much about DL. I downloaded the demo after I found that the developers also worked on Dead Island and it felt similiar enough, but I just missed the analogue combat style from Dead Island.

For me, this core mechanic is what made killing zombies in the game so satisfying. You could choose any angle of attack and it kind of made you emulate the attack movements.

[–]Schmich 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The best? Not sure. Definitely one of the best.

The best ones that I can remember:

Age of Empires II

Battlefield 1942

Any of the Blizzard ones. They're THE masters of cinematic trailers. Of course old trailers might not get the same feelings as they used to due to graphics advancing. A couple of horses might seem like an army before whilst today it looks like nothing.

[–]CrackCC_Lurking 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shit... watching the aoe trailer brought back so many memories.

[–]palkiajack 21ポイント22ポイント  (14子コメント)

Here's the article for those that don't want to disable adblock:

While Call of Duty and Battlefield have always had a pretty heated rivalry, things are being taken to a new, almost bizarre level this year with the debut of Infinite Warfare and Battlefield 1.

The most intense battleground is not a series of reddit threads or in the comments of news articles about the games, it’s on YouTube, where there’s currently a war going on to bury Call of Duty’s trailer in dislikes, and ascend Battlefield 1’s trailer to the high heavens.

Whatever is going on, it’s working.

Last week, Call of Duty Infinite Warfare’s reveal trailer was the most disliked video game video of all time with about 300,000 dislikes. Today, it’s the most disliked trailer ever, and the 8th most disliked video period in YouTube history with a frankly unbelievable 1.2 million dislikes.

On the other side, Battlefield’s numbers are no less significant. The Battlefield 1 trailer has now passed a million likes, putting it in the top 250 most liked videos ever, and making it, by far, the most liked trailer of all time, across movies, TV or video games.

These numbers are not normal. Take the reveal trailers of wildly popular games like Grand Theft Auto V and Skyrim, games that have 280K and 50K likes respectively. Or even with movies, the official Marvel trailer for The Avengers has 82K likes. The Dark Knight Rises has 86K.

To repeat, Battlefield 1 has gotten a million likes in the four days since its release. Call of Duty has 1.2 million dislikes in a week.

I started drafting this article yesterday, and by the time I’m going to publish now, both have amassed another 2-300,000 likes/dislikes. Refreshing the page, both are getting about 5-10 a second. This is not normal. 95% of the other videos in these most liked/disliked lists are music videos that people play repeatedly for obvious reasons, and many have taken years to amass their numbers.

I just don’t believe that anyone has the capacity to organize a campaign to massively like/dislike these two trailers on this level. Rather, it has to be some kind of botting push. The only thing that makes me think this might not be the case is that YouTube seems to have no interest stepping in, but if I was Activision, I would certainly want this investigated.

As Erik Kain noted in a post earlier today, all of this is getting very stupid.

Yes, there are fundamental issues here that are important to discuss. The Infinite Warfare trailer is not very good, and the decision to remain in the future as a setting is questionable. The Battlefield 1 trailer is great, and WWI is a more interesting idea.

With that said, come on. The Infinite Warfare trailer is not 50x as bad as any other video game trailer that’s been released, nor is Battlefield 1 50x as good. Initially, these YouTube wars were interesting, but now, racking up millions of dislikes in a matter of days in clearly unnatural ways, they’re just silly, and no longer really mean anything, if they ever did. It just seems like the internet has figured out a new “protest metric,” as demonstrated by the recent reaction to the Ghostbusters reboot trailer which became the most disliked movie trailer ever with a week or so. Could it be better? Sure. Is it the worst trailer of all time? Certainly not, but someone has figured out a way to make it seem that way, and like Battlefield and Call of Duty, I question how many of Ghostbusters’ dislikes are genuine. Something is going on here that YouTube needs to look into.

And while I fundamentally agree with the fact that the Infinite Warfare trailer was worse in concept and execution than Battlefield 1’s, we have to take a step back here and understand that we know almost nothing about these games, and have seen nothing from them other than sixty seconds of footage and a few screenshots. How much can we possibly know about them to have this “Call of Duty will be murdered this year by Battlefield” narrative the internet is currently obsessed with?

Further descriptions of Infinite Warfare, which involve a customized space-fighter and breaching and boarding missions in open space…actually sounds kind of cool, and I would like to see how it works in practice. And for as good as Battlefield 1 looked, filming a trailer “in-engine” is in no way an accurate representation of how the game will actually look in practice, and I have my doubts people will be thrilled about returning to a time when mobility was lacking in shooters, as much as they may want to get away from the future.

I am not saying Infinite Warfare will be better than Battlefield 1. And I will say outright that judging by these two trailers, Battlefield 1 certainly looks more interesting. But no one has the information at this point to start shoveling dirt on Call of Duty’s grave while holding up Battlefield 1 as some sort of paragon of video game excellence, all based on two total minutes of footage between the games.

There are a lot of dumb fanboy wars in the business, but this one, trying to flood YouTube as a way to bolster or sink the marketing for one game or another, is beyond idiotic, especially if it’s being manipulated by botters posing as “upset gamers.”

Yes, Infinite Warfare has a lot to prove and I do fundamentally think a mistake was made setting the game in the future. But this level of hostility toward the game has been completely unwarranted, and so has the desire to treat Battlefield 1 like the second coming when it also has a lot to prove.

So, maybe Infinite Warfare will pass Justin Bieber and be the most disliked video ever, while Battlefield 1 ascends into immortal Gangam Style-level likes, but at this point, it means nothing. The core of the story is important, fans wishing COD did something different, and Battlefield filling that gap, but everything else? It’s just noise, and there’s honestly nothing more to say until we see more, a lot more, from each of these games.

[–]Lumpyguy 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

The author of this article is ridiculously dumb. There is NO campaign going on. The videos went viral. People see a video they like/hate, and they send the link to the people they know; and those people will like/hate it and do the same. That is how viral videos work. Just because they're video game videos or trailers does not mean they cannot go viral. :/

[–]phalstaph 15ポイント16ポイント  (16子コメント)

Promise you, cod will out sell battlefield

[–]Carrisonfire 1ポイント2ポイント  (15子コメント)

If it does, it will only be because they forced people to buy IW in order to get CoD4 Remaster. If they weren't bundled IW would sell like shit.

[–]venom_godThe Demi Gods 15ポイント16ポイント  (10子コメント)

You're vastly overestimating the amount of people that genuinely care about the CoD4 remaster. Vocal minority and all that.

CoD is the perfect game for casual players who play with friends and/or on weekends to chill out, children who have time to spare and people who just want a fun romp. It's a giant audience, combined with a brand name. Combined with the fact it'll never sell under 15 mil.

[–]Lemons_Huh 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well, you also have to understand that CoD 4 was what brought a lot of people (including me) to first person shooters. The game was amazing, and I still consider it to be one of the best games I've ever played. I stopped playing CoD when BF3 came out, but if they sold CoD 4 separately, I would jump on that shit immediately.

[–]venom_godThe Demi Gods 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

CoD4 got me into online gaming way back when so I'm with you on that, but it's not the overwhelming majority that people are making it out to be that are really clamoring for the remaster.

[–]Lemons_Huh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it's not as big of a group as people think. The majority of sales will be from die-hard CoD fans, but there is still a sizable number of people who want CoD 4 remastered.

[–]lakerswiz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

LOL.

The version of CoD IW without the CoD 4 remaster will probably outsell Battlefield in it's entirety.

Black Ops 3 outsold BF3 and BF4 within like 6 weeks of it being released and those games have been out for YEARS.

[–]LordTwinkieLordTwinkie 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought the new Ghostbusters was the most disliked

[–]micmea1 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

My biggest concern is the new trailer is gaining wayy too much hype. Now the gaming community is all focused on Battlefield again, and a lot of the arcadey shooter fans from CoD are going to jump ship for battlefield and then complain that it isn't a shoot em up, team death match sort of game.

Gamers today have a knack for creating impossible standards for hyped up games, and while I'm sure I am going to love the new Battlefield just as much as I've loved every single Battlefield in the past (didn't play Hardline), I dread the incoming, "Ohh this game sucks I keep getting killed by airplanes"

[–]Eat_The_Muffin 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

But it is a shoot em up team death match game?

It's not like this is arma, it's still casual as fuck.

[–]GibsonLP86 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea, but if you WANT to actually shoot people further than 10 meters away, and your whole squad plays that way too, then you can actually play battlefield at a longer distance engagement range.

Cod, the furthest shots are like, what, 50 meters?

[–]siirka 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even less on in BO3, each map is literally a copy pasted three lane arena

[–]FuryofYuri 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Where's my run and slide? Literally unplayable".

[–]Ninjaboots 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

we are going to lose a lot of games if COD players come in and try and play battlefield the way they play COD.

[–]micmea1 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

More reason I need to join a Platoon. It's going to give experienced players some tasty win streaks, like free to play weekends on Rainbow Six.

[–]The_Thought_Police_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should see free to play weekends on Red Orchestra

[–]want2playzombies 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just don’t believe that anyone has the capacity to organize a campaign to massively like/dislike these two trailers on this level.

he sounds like an activison shill, activision are already trying to take videos down that mock them and cod.

on a more serious note i cant be the only one worried that if there is a big migration of COD players the community will become super toxic and as COD people dont PTO and would rather jerk off over there KD i seriously worry that CQL will just become big TDM.

I have played Domination in COD and people ignore the objective if they think they might die .

[–]crunchycraig 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed... This journalist is a joke.

[–]PTFOholland 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was /r/Battlefield_4

[–]DomUK89 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not sure why you're downvoted. There's a brand new sub for BF1. I don't want to see /r/battlefield_4 turn into a shit version of /r/battlefield_one

[–]PTFOholland 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or you know that one very big sub ;)

[–]RollingDownTheHills 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But there's a whole lot more karma to be farmed on this one!

[–]CarrollFilmsEVGA GeForce GTX 980| i7-5820K @ 4.2Ghz| 32GB 2133mhz DDR4 8TB 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

TFW everyone still thinks Forbes is a credible news outlet.

[–]krillingt75961 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

What do you have cooling your 8320?

[–]CarrollFilmsEVGA GeForce GTX 980| i7-5820K @ 4.2Ghz| 32GB 2133mhz DDR4 8TB 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

An original Corsair H50. I get idle temps of around 28-33 celcius. Under load it doesn't got over 58 celcius.

[–]krillingt75961 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I see you changed your specs lol. Just remember to update your flair?

[–]CarrollFilmsEVGA GeForce GTX 980| i7-5820K @ 4.2Ghz| 32GB 2133mhz DDR4 8TB 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea, it's now my girlfriends rig.

But I used that original setup ever since BF4 came out.

[–]Graphic-JGraphic-J 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Forbes is acting like a bitch. Here is a screenshot of the whole page: http://i.imgur.com/w5xDO9D.jpg


BTW: This editor must be high. Not only is agreeing how his other editor friend are blaming the fans and YouTube for disliking the CoD videos. not only that but he's also blaming the COD dislikes on a script bot. A scipt bot!! Fuck him. Fans are tired of how Activision are not listening to their fans so this is one way to make their voices heard while DICE/EA are.

[–]snezima23 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Big fuckin deal.

[–]RollingDownTheHills 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm still trying to figure out who this matters to, since we keep seeing posts like this on here. Last time I asked I received 10 downvotes for being "cunty". It's a touchy subject for sure, but "why" it is so remains a mystery to me. I have yet to receive an explanation.

[–]Pluwo4 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just like in the console wars some people seem to take games very seriously. The COD vs BF debate that has been going on seems to be at a high point this year.

[–]Apkoha 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's called choice supportive bias.

If you prefer something and someone else prefer something else.. some people can't rationalize that others can make the same informed choices and choose and enjoy the other. It's a blow to the ego so they need to defend why they made their choices. Apple vs PC, Android vs IPhone, Xbox vs Ps4.. etc..

[–]snezima23 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I don't get it either. I feel like buying the most expensive version of Infinite Warfare just to spite these people.

[–]TotesMessenger 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]GeronimousNLJeroenimous 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry, Forbes is blocked here because it demands me to turn off my adblocker (and it allegedly served malware).

http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/08/you-say-advertising-i-say-block-that-malware/

[–]doug25391 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

As a fan of both I've always wondered why everyone compares the two. Why not compare Battlefield to Gears of War, or other shooters that are vastly different? Battlefield appeals to people who want a realistic shooter, while CoD just follows market trends and appeals to people who want arcade shooters. Both are fun for their relative gameplays, and although CoD does drop the ball for their fans more than battlefield, what series of games doesn't from time to time? Maybe somebody could clear this up for me :)

[–]Apkoha 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Battlefield appeals to people who want a realistic shooter

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA.. Please.. it's just as fuckign corny and unrealistic as COD is.

[–]almighty-thud 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the COD rebellion we all prophesied is happening.

[–]fanboyhunter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

this article was written by a snot nosed COD fanboy . . . target acquired.

[–]Roman420 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

COD looks like it's still running on directx 9 lol

[–]MOCKxTHExCROSS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isn't it technically running on an evolution of the quake III engine?

[–]1031Vulcan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like BF1's top score of likes come not from everyone loving BF and/or WWI settings, but from simply gaming becoming more and more popular as time goes on.

[–]AmazingMazer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just disliked it cuz everyone else did and it seemed like the right thing to do...lol

[–]Mao_PingPongMao PingPong 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I helped with the downvotes. Currently at 1,625,646 dislikes. Fuck you CoD!

[–]tungholio 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just last week there were stories about Ghostbusters being the most disliked trailer on YouTube. I guess it can still hold on to the most disliked movie trailer title.

Ghostbusters reboot sets record for most disliked trailer on YouTube

[–]Tr0ndern [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What this article seems to completemy miss is the fact that upvotes and downvotes on social media is almost NEVER only linked to the relative quality of the content.

If some random game company release this game it would probably get a more upvoteds than downvotes, and also less publicity. People don't vote on things on social media or platforms solely because they like/dislike it objectivly. People vote on stuff to SEND A MESSAGE.

Gamers are SICK of rehashed content and modern shooters, as well as the moneygrubbing, souless companies that no longer care about making a game they would play themselves but only reaching for the money and playing it safe. The producers of CoD have been doing this for years now, and while DICE are so saints themselves at5 least they fucking TRIED. Now we have two companies, which both make games for the same console market, and both in the (somewhat) same genre. Both have been accused of not being inventive anough (though CoD has take the brunt of this, deservedly) and for being more focused on playig it safe and never putting effort into their games.

Now we have 1 of these going for something completely new, which not only is a risk, but also seems to be something the playerbase (for all shooters) have been jammering for the last 3-4 years. At the same time, the symbol of stagnation that is activision and infonity ward just keep on trucking, not listening to their playerbase, not updating their engine, not adding anything new aside from "space". People will naturally want to make a statament about this, and thus th youtubewars begin.

it's not hard to figure out, and it's a good thing it's happening.

[–]NotGaming 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Humanity's political wisdom may be on a steep decline, but at least people have discovered that Battlefield is better then CoD, so maybe there is hope.

[–]skywalkerr69 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Forbes doesn't allow Adblock. Buh bye

[–]user8644 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

The trailer is objectively better. The sound, the choice of soundtrack, the art direction, the action, the concept...all of it. And the game theme is "new." I didn't think I wanted to play an "old war" game, but after the trailer, I'm sold.

[–]Wellhowboutdat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How does this guy actually ignore the fact that people are using the trailer as a vehicle to voice their dislike for the direction that COD is going while applauding BF for breaking a mold and being confident enough to shake things up?

Seriously. Does this author really believe that people are commenting on the quality of the trailer alone? That's absurd.

As for the botting question? Who knows. I know I don't care and if that is going to be Activision's "out" rather than admitting they guessed wrong in the direction players wanted to go then fuck Activision.