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[–]Plants can't talk you fucking idiot. You absolute wanker.Evillisa 0ポイント1ポイント  (21子コメント)

I don't judge people for playing Genocide, I judge people for deleting the file afterwards. I judge people for cheating.

[–]BabyCharmanderK[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (20子コメント)

Egh, is that really cheating though?

One of the morals of Undertale is that everyone can be a good person--everyone can be redeemed. People are willing to forgive Flowey and wish that he could be given a second chance, so why not genocide run players?

I didn't realize how badly I'd screwed up until I was already beyond the point of no return, but I want to fix things. That's why I messed with the files to get my soul back.

[–]Embrace the ones you hold dearV0ID115 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I do have to agree on the cheating part because it IS taking a way out not implemented on the game to be able to achieve the best ending possible.

 

However, one easily could say they were determined enough to find a way to make it all better.

 

Regardless, I'm a goofball who gets too invested in fiction. Even I can't take myself seriously.

[–]BabyCharmanderK[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

However, one easily could say they were determined enough to find a way to make it all better.

That's the way I like to look at it.

[–]Plants can't talk you fucking idiot. You absolute wanker.Evillisa 3ポイント4ポイント  (17子コメント)

You know what's even more of a moral in Undertale than everyone can be a good person?

ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!

You can do genocide all you like but once you have, fucking own it. Don't chicken out. If Toby wanted you to be able to recover from genocide he would have put a way to in the game. As is, you're ruining the experience and devaluing one of the game's most important messages.

[–]Currently stuck to the tablethebakedpotatoe 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Death of the author blah blah blah.

[–]BabyCharmanderK[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (13子コメント)

I'm not ruining the experience at all. Getting my soul back doesn't take away the emotional turmoil I went through, and it doesn't mean I didn't learn the lesson.

If this were any other video game, I would have set it aside and moved on to something else by now. But as it stands, I care about the game, care about the characters, and I care about the world I wound up destroying.

To me, owning up to the consequences means figuring out how the heck the game's files work, getting my soul back, playing the game again, and doing it right this time so the characters can have their dang happy ending back.

[–]btsilence 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Getting my soul back doesn't take away the emotional turmoil I went through, and it doesn't mean I didn't learn the lesson.

No but it means that you think you are above consequence. The idea at the end of genocide was to create a permanent consequence to the actions you performed throughout the game. I thought that idea was amazing and doesn't ever really get done in gaming. Anyone who deletes files is spitting on that design and is showing that perhaps they didn't learn as much as they would like to think. This was a nice post about not judging others for the run, but as a result all genocide players, myself included, should have to own up to what we did, and keep that file tucked away.

[–]BabyCharmanderK[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not spitting on the design--I think it's completely brilliant. And I do absolutely understand the moral; the fact that I fudged around with my files a bit doesn't mean I can't apply the moral to real life.

But for the love of the characters--and my own emotional health--I still want to get the happy ending back.

[–]Macgki 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The thing is, even though you use this last option of manipulating the files, you still have "destroyed" your previous world. You didn't save it, you just created a new one, in which you can have the happy ending. But the sins you (and all other genocide players/watchers, me included) have done can't be erased.

[–]can't touch thistoobadlemonbreadtime 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kinda getting off topic here, but, there's just a big problem with that moral.

It's only applicable to the player (... and Alphys)

Everyone else in the game is basically a Karma Houdini. No one is punished for their actions. No matter what they did, no one ever blames them (minus Toriel leaving Asgore and... Alphys again).